I just used the Mindflayer level down strategy. SO much faster than the trap, as well as I don't have to try "teleport" every time. It was a bit difficult the first few attempts, though, as I don't have Orlandeau yet and Luso as a dragoon (with Javelin II from ninja rare battle) was having trouble killing everything before dying. The last attempt that I just finished, I had him with Arts of War, and I got a lucky roll with the enemies that appeared. It was ALMOST enjoyable spending 30 minutes leveling down. Thank you again for the video!
Great video, my method is, time mage / teleport move on trap / lvl-1 / teleport fail still on trap but you kind of moved but just fail? / lvl -1 / teleport fail still on trap / lvl -1 / and repeat
I prefer to use toad vs toad, both with berserk and petrify the rest. Fast Forward and voila, auto farm. To optimize a knight can break the attack power of the toads before to be petrified. Basically, you just need a oracle with berserk + petrify and in the second abilities use black magic with toad. A second unit can be a monk with chakra to give free MP to the Oracle and in second abilities Battle Skill to break power attack. The oracle petrify himself too. You get the job mastered and like 30 lvl in just 15 minutes and in one single battle.
You want to know a op job set? Ninja Throw Arithmetic shiradahori Brawler Move 2+ Have a high brave and you will have a fucking op character, only vulnerable to spells and some abilities, but you can equip something that can make a spell be missed or even deal less damage
i go with lancers with the monk skills for healing and combat assist along with mp shield, and move gain mp if im not mistakin, its been years since i played, but its a very powerful combination with the free healing and long range attacks and regenerating sheilds along with the inate strength and jumping attacks of the lancers just 1 of a 1,000 other ways to play this masterpiece
oh yeah another fun way to play early game sometimes is to grab a type 2 or red bull demon and shield them with ether the mp shielded allies or some cheaper auto riviving skeletons and have it keep using the move attack power up, till it can one shot every enemy in the battle. around 30 should do for early game and it gains i think 2 power each turn.
I love to use arithmetic boosted with a faith rod/pray faith skill + magic up + whatever equipments that boosts magic. Its funny to turn everybody to stone/frog/sleep or instakill them in 1 turn.
Thank you for this. I did my first level down process a couple days ago. However, I used this map's de-generator trap (WOTL IOS, by the way), making Ramza invisible and just teleporting too far for success over and over. It does appear that it would be faster to use the Mindflayer, though, unless you speed up said leveling down character. Also, do you know enough about not going to 99.99xp to know whether those last few levels make the stat boosting different?
That's a good question and I honestly don't know the best answer. There seemed to be some randomness to when you actually get the boosts in your stats. I wish I knew the average number of stat boosts when going through the process to aim for and if you hit that many boosts you could just quit and work your way back down.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 from a Reddit I read, it appears the early 50 levels have less impact than the late. First 50 levels in mime, last in ninja verse the opposite, the latter seemed to have overall better stats. I haven't done any testing, nor do I think I have the patience to test. It took me about 30 minutes to level down from level 60, and then nearly 6 hours to get back to 99. Then again, I probably could have shortened that time leveling up and down with the Mindflayer AND killing. The Ninja is super strong once it has some decent weapons. If the weapons meet the same strength as the highest party level, the ninja can basically one shot anything (technically two, since it's attacking twice). Unfortunately, I just switched devices for the next couple days, so I am having to restart... I wish there were a way to transfer save files, or even just completions, so I don't have to beat the game again for the overpowered poacher equipment on IOS.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 To be honest, if you had a bit more FFT content, I would subscribe. Even just a play through like I am doing (only my first video is out so far, as I hate editing and just decided to start finally).
I do. That is pretty impressive if you could get that from my voice alone. I cough a bit in my vids here and there too which I would think is more of a give away.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 We definitely need to talk now my man! I JUST got my lung transplant! I'm 31...10 months ago was my tx! I've had tons of friends with CF and could tell just by the sound man...Dude, we gotta get in touch with each other! Cheers man. michaelshawndavis@gmail.com that's my skype if you're interested. PS, Awesome avatar, Rei is my favorite too.
@@JRPG-Mickey @The Obsessive Compulsive Gamer Dude, stop meeting up with people based mostly on their defective lungs. You're going to end up banging some broad with phlegm and make more of you.
Leveling up as a monk then down as arithmetician is a good option as well. The only stat that won't level is MP... which can easily be fixed by leveling up as a back, white, or time mage. White mage and monk are, weirdly enough, the best classes for the leveling trick since they both have significantly higher growth than the arithmetician class, which is the lowest total growth class in the game (there's a few classes with lower growth in a single stat, but they tend to have good growth in all other stats) I should mention that that's on the PSP version though.
I've always found that I prefer powering through as many jobs on my generic 4+Ramza as I can and just statboosting them, I know the holy knights are fun to play but given the amount of time you have with your average team and ramza in the beginning, and how unneccesarily powerful the stat raising makes you, that theres no need for the special classes even from the first 99. Some fights are harder (dragons/behe's and whatnot) but Ive always found the gen team is more than adequate.
How did you get your first character to level 99 though? for example, how do you level up Orlandu to level 99 without accumulate or anything like that? I'm stuck at end game right now trying to figure out how to level up for midlights deep with special characters that don't have access to accumulate for easy turn grinding. Removing Orlandu's weapon to attack a teammate is innefective because no matter what job he is with his fists he will do 150 plus damage and then your stuck burning through x potions. I know this is old video but hopefully someone can illuminate me.
I use Ramza and his yell (I think it's yell) ability on himself. This speeds him up and when you cast a skill on yourself you always get a set amount of exp. The benefit of this is you will get turns more quickly too so often times you'll get turns back to back. Ramza should level quite quickly doing this. For the other characters you can then cast on Ramza and if he is already 99 they will get quite a bit of exp.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 thanks for the reply, that will work for ramza i think but how about the special characters like Orlandu? they dont have access to yell or easy skill ups
Hi, does this work with war of the lions? I got cloud to level 15 by attacking my own level 99 characters after leaving one bad guy. Was wondering if your trick works with war of the lions on the ps vita version. Thank you. 🤗
Maybe I level grind too much, but it always struck me as funny that the exp gain boosting abilities are all locked behind jobs that you may not get access to until ten to twenty game hours after you've got a few characters to level 99.
That actually is pretty funny/silly. Ramza full time yelling to quickly boost his exp and others attacking/healing/buffing w/e him makes leveling crazy fast and mostly makes those abilities irrelevant.
During delevel it would probably be better to have ramza (assuming he hasnt been stat leveled) in battle using yell on 2 mind flayers till they have like 4 turns in a row. Then you dont wait for others. Also could of used orlandu to speed break miladu and vice versa.
When i stated playing this game i was thinking its most frustraiting and hard game ever, but game don't tell you that the most important thing is level.
I agree to some extent though I'd argue that gear is actually extremely important as well. For instance if you level a lot very early and run into random encounters because your gear is so bad the encounters are extremely difficult. If you're talking strictly story line battles I'd agree.
You could slow the Dummy so you don't lose time in pressing wait for Orlandeau here. Rend power or toad work very well on the last mob aswell ( and also between your characters if you hit too hard ).
@@Steevy84 There are times when that works. Rend speed when the battle is under control does work really well. I'm not sure why I had yin yang magic on Mel here.
Characters gain permanent stats (like speed if you level as a ninja). Also there is only so much you can do to avoid gaining exp. The only problem that arises from raising enemy levels is early on the random battle monsters will be stronger while your equipment remains stagnant. Though even this can be solved by finding humanoid enemies and stealing their equipment.
I don't know why you're wasting extra time by attacking when you can just use Focus instead it has a faster animation. Also if both characters were ninja they would both be getting double experience, would also be better if you had five total ninjas, that JP would Skyrocket from every single ninja making an action with other ninjas getting the spillover JP for that job. By the time you get back to the first character the spillover from all other four freindly units. You would have gained basically a free JP act turn without even acting.
Because neither of these characters can use focus unfortunately. Focus is only usable by the generic squires. I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say 2 ninjas would mean double exp. The amount of exp a character earns has nothing to do with having more of them in the battle. Also the goal here was to just level a character quickly, not grind JP. You are correct about spillover JP though, so if that was a goal that would definitely be better.
Basically it is a way to increase your characters base stats. You level up as something like ninja (for speed) then level down as bard (or dancer for females). Because bards and dancers have bad stat growth by de leveling as 1 of those 2 classes you actually gain additional stats when you level back up. It's a very long process but you can really make some powerful characters.
Either Step on a de-level trap or use the mindblast skill. Mindblast is used by the Mindflare enemy as long as one of your characters has the Monster skill passive (learned by the squire class)
Hmm mine seem to be working a little differently. My mindflayer with 60 MA success is 100% second mindflayer with 57 MA success rate is 87% and my last mindflayer with only 9 MA has a success rate of 69%.
True to some extent. Cloud always shows up at level 1. And the non generics join with all those levels invested in their base class which means they aren't getting the kind of speed gains that they'd get if they had leveled as a ninja.
The process results in your characters gaining stats. Level up as a class like ninja to gain speed then level down as something like bard and you come out ahead stat wise.
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I just used the Mindflayer level down strategy. SO much faster than the trap, as well as I don't have to try "teleport" every time. It was a bit difficult the first few attempts, though, as I don't have Orlandeau yet and Luso as a dragoon (with Javelin II from ninja rare battle) was having trouble killing everything before dying. The last attempt that I just finished, I had him with Arts of War, and I got a lucky roll with the enemies that appeared. It was ALMOST enjoyable spending 30 minutes leveling down. Thank you again for the video!
No problem, I'm glad to hear it was faster for you!
One Word "LionEditor". Thank you Mikey
Great video to watch at TH-cam's 1.5x speed setting!
1.25x is less robotic sounding. Unless you're just muting from the start. Then 1.5x is perfect (or even higher slightly).
Great video, my method is, time mage / teleport move on trap / lvl-1 / teleport fail still on trap but you kind of moved but just fail? / lvl -1 / teleport fail still on trap / lvl -1 / and repeat
I prefer to use toad vs toad, both with berserk and petrify the rest. Fast Forward and voila, auto farm. To optimize a knight can break the attack power of the toads before to be petrified. Basically, you just need a oracle with berserk + petrify and in the second abilities use black magic with toad. A second unit can be a monk with chakra to give free MP to the Oracle and in second abilities Battle Skill to break power attack. The oracle petrify himself too. You get the job mastered and like 30 lvl in just 15 minutes and in one single battle.
Does this also work in war of the lions?
@@jondoe170 Yes it work, even in fft hacktics 1.3
You want to know a op job set?
Ninja
Throw
Arithmetic
shiradahori
Brawler
Move 2+
Have a high brave and you will have a fucking op character, only vulnerable to spells and some abilities, but you can equip something that can make a spell be missed or even deal less damage
i go with lancers with the monk skills for healing and combat assist along with mp shield, and move gain mp if im not mistakin, its been years since i played, but its a very powerful combination with the free healing and long range attacks and regenerating sheilds along with the inate strength and jumping attacks of the lancers
just 1 of a 1,000 other ways to play this masterpiece
oh yeah another fun way to play early game sometimes is to grab a type 2 or red bull demon and shield them with ether the mp shielded allies or some cheaper auto riviving skeletons and have it keep using the move attack power up, till it can one shot every enemy in the battle. around 30 should do for early game and it gains i think 2 power each turn.
I love to use arithmetic boosted with a faith rod/pray faith skill + magic up + whatever equipments that boosts magic. Its funny to turn everybody to stone/frog/sleep or instakill them in 1 turn.
Thank you for this. I did my first level down process a couple days ago. However, I used this map's de-generator trap (WOTL IOS, by the way), making Ramza invisible and just teleporting too far for success over and over. It does appear that it would be faster to use the Mindflayer, though, unless you speed up said leveling down character. Also, do you know enough about not going to 99.99xp to know whether those last few levels make the stat boosting different?
That's a good question and I honestly don't know the best answer. There seemed to be some randomness to when you actually get the boosts in your stats. I wish I knew the average number of stat boosts when going through the process to aim for and if you hit that many boosts you could just quit and work your way back down.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 from a Reddit I read, it appears the early 50 levels have less impact than the late. First 50 levels in mime, last in ninja verse the opposite, the latter seemed to have overall better stats. I haven't done any testing, nor do I think I have the patience to test. It took me about 30 minutes to level down from level 60, and then nearly 6 hours to get back to 99. Then again, I probably could have shortened that time leveling up and down with the Mindflayer AND killing. The Ninja is super strong once it has some decent weapons. If the weapons meet the same strength as the highest party level, the ninja can basically one shot anything (technically two, since it's attacking twice). Unfortunately, I just switched devices for the next couple days, so I am having to restart... I wish there were a way to transfer save files, or even just completions, so I don't have to beat the game again for the overpowered poacher equipment on IOS.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 To be honest, if you had a bit more FFT content, I would subscribe. Even just a play through like I am doing (only my first video is out so far, as I hate editing and just decided to start finally).
@@infiniteaaron Well buddy I'm happy to inform you I've got a whole walk through
@@infiniteaaron Here's the first vid of my walkthrough th-cam.com/video/MywHo25LtqY/w-d-xo.html
Watched 2 of ur videos back to back u earned a sub even though I'm Hella late to this video
Better late than never! Enjoy the vids!
You wouldn't by any chance to have cystic fibrosis would you? Your voice is very distinct like my own. Awesome video!
I do. That is pretty impressive if you could get that from my voice alone. I cough a bit in my vids here and there too which I would think is more of a give away.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 We definitely need to talk now my man! I JUST got my lung transplant! I'm 31...10 months ago was my tx! I've had tons of friends with CF and could tell just by the sound man...Dude, we gotta get in touch with each other! Cheers man. michaelshawndavis@gmail.com that's my skype if you're interested. PS, Awesome avatar, Rei is my favorite too.
@@JRPG-Mickey For sure, I'll send you a message there.
@@JRPG-Mickey @The Obsessive Compulsive Gamer Dude, stop meeting up with people based mostly on their defective lungs. You're going to end up banging some broad with phlegm and make more of you.
@@JRPG-Mickey hope you are well sir.🙏🙏
Leveling up as a monk then down as arithmetician is a good option as well. The only stat that won't level is MP... which can easily be fixed by leveling up as a back, white, or time mage.
White mage and monk are, weirdly enough, the best classes for the leveling trick since they both have significantly higher growth than the arithmetician class, which is the lowest total growth class in the game (there's a few classes with lower growth in a single stat, but they tend to have good growth in all other stats)
I should mention that that's on the PSP version though.
Slight disagreement here but on the grounds of speed. I value speed much more than any other stat so ninja is the best class to level as.
I've always found that I prefer powering through as many jobs on my generic 4+Ramza as I can and just statboosting them, I know the holy knights are fun to play but given the amount of time you have with your average team and ramza in the beginning, and how unneccesarily powerful the stat raising makes you, that theres no need for the special classes even from the first 99. Some fights are harder (dragons/behe's and whatnot) but Ive always found the gen team is more than adequate.
Can't argue with that! Overall the process isn't really needed but it sure can make some crazy characters!
How did you get your first character to level 99 though? for example, how do you level up Orlandu to level 99 without accumulate or anything like that? I'm stuck at end game right now trying to figure out how to level up for midlights deep with special characters that don't have access to accumulate for easy turn grinding. Removing Orlandu's weapon to attack a teammate is innefective because no matter what job he is with his fists he will do 150 plus damage and then your stuck burning through x potions. I know this is old video but hopefully someone can illuminate me.
I use Ramza and his yell (I think it's yell) ability on himself. This speeds him up and when you cast a skill on yourself you always get a set amount of exp. The benefit of this is you will get turns more quickly too so often times you'll get turns back to back. Ramza should level quite quickly doing this. For the other characters you can then cast on Ramza and if he is already 99 they will get quite a bit of exp.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 thanks for the reply, that will work for ramza i think but how about the special characters like Orlandu? they dont have access to yell or easy skill ups
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 I geuss I could turn orlandu into a frog and attack and speed him up with ramza or something
@@Ir1shman it is tougher, but once Ramza is 99 the enemies will be 99 as well so at that point I use steal gil with my other non generic characters.
@@Ir1shman give him time mage skills and pair him with someone with monk skills.
Cast haste. Get Chakrad. Repeat.
Can you use the faith-up ability to give permanent increases to the monster you choose for the delevel?
You sure can!
Best speed ive gotten to is 20 with haste but I haven't tested yet. Will be fun
I would try this but as long as you have the right skills and equipment what's the point? I'm old. I don't have the time anymore...
lol I hear that. The point is really just to boost your base stats.
Hi, does this work with war of the lions? I got cloud to level 15 by attacking my own level 99 characters after leaving one bad guy. Was wondering if your trick works with war of the lions on the ps vita version. Thank you. 🤗
It sure does!
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 okay... thanks for answering 😊
Maybe I level grind too much, but it always struck me as funny that the exp gain boosting abilities are all locked behind jobs that you may not get access to until ten to twenty game hours after you've got a few characters to level 99.
That actually is pretty funny/silly. Ramza full time yelling to quickly boost his exp and others attacking/healing/buffing w/e him makes leveling crazy fast and mostly makes those abilities irrelevant.
I just got exp up on my 4 characters plus Ramza at level 26. There is no way you should have level 99 characters, make no sense.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 My Ramza was at 26 when i got exp up.
What zone is this in for the level up part?
+MIchael Hartline Zeklaus Desert
During delevel it would probably be better to have ramza (assuming he hasnt been stat leveled) in battle using yell on 2 mind flayers till they have like 4 turns in a row. Then you dont wait for others. Also could of used orlandu to speed break miladu and vice versa.
Agreed, Ramza is great here if he can handle the enemies on the map.
When i stated playing this game i was thinking its most frustraiting and hard game ever, but game don't tell you that the most important thing is level.
I agree to some extent though I'd argue that gear is actually extremely important as well. For instance if you level a lot very early and run into random encounters because your gear is so bad the encounters are extremely difficult. If you're talking strictly story line battles I'd agree.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 I was playing 5x monks)) Thats why for me level was so important)
@@wolker213 Ahh nice! Yeah don't need to rely much on gear when you're rocking fists
You could slow the Dummy so you don't lose time in pressing wait for Orlandeau here.
Rend power or toad work very well on the last mob aswell ( and also between your characters if you hit too hard ).
Orlandeau has an Excal equipped so unfortunately that wouldn't work.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 you can still rend his speed, and unequip excalibur aswell, but just rend speed should be enough.
@@Steevy84 There are times when that works. Rend speed when the battle is under control does work really well. I'm not sure why I had yin yang magic on Mel here.
Why is he boosting his exp so much if that's what raises the enemies level? Shouldnt he be trying to avoid exp and gain jp?
Characters gain permanent stats (like speed if you level as a ninja). Also there is only so much you can do to avoid gaining exp. The only problem that arises from raising enemy levels is early on the random battle monsters will be stronger while your equipment remains stagnant. Though even this can be solved by finding humanoid enemies and stealing their equipment.
@@theobsessivecompulsivegame9078 awesome thanks for the tip man
I don't know why you're wasting extra time by attacking when you can just use Focus instead it has a faster animation. Also if both characters were ninja they would both be getting double experience, would also be better if you had five total ninjas, that JP would Skyrocket from every single ninja making an action with other ninjas getting the spillover JP for that job. By the time you get back to the first character the spillover from all other four freindly units. You would have gained basically a free JP act turn without even acting.
Because neither of these characters can use focus unfortunately. Focus is only usable by the generic squires. I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say 2 ninjas would mean double exp. The amount of exp a character earns has nothing to do with having more of them in the battle. Also the goal here was to just level a character quickly, not grind JP. You are correct about spillover JP though, so if that was a goal that would definitely be better.
Explain again why you want to delevel?
Basically it is a way to increase your characters base stats. You level up as something like ninja (for speed) then level down as bard (or dancer for females). Because bards and dancers have bad stat growth by de leveling as 1 of those 2 classes you actually gain additional stats when you level back up. It's a very long process but you can really make some powerful characters.
Ah ok. I've played this game since its debut and never knew about that >.> Thanks for the info!
Essentially your stat maxing
None of this looks familiar to me... Am I missing something?
This is Final Fantasy Tactics (On the playstation)
Okay. It's the only one I've ever played. I guess it's just been so long...
I turn everybody a frog and do auto.
That was my strategy since '99 when I first played the game, lol.
How to delevel??
Either Step on a de-level trap or use the mindblast skill. Mindblast is used by the Mindflare enemy as long as one of your characters has the Monster skill passive (learned by the squire class)
mindflare level down is based of their MA not faith. Success% = MA + 60
Hmm mine seem to be working a little differently. My mindflayer with 60 MA success is 100% second mindflayer with 57 MA success rate is 87% and my last mindflayer with only 9 MA has a success rate of 69%.
zodiac compatibility
Taterz Ahh yes that always has to complicate things
I do not see why many clips of this game show level 99. This game is too easy, even with level around 40-50. Nice tip for lv down though.
All it takes is a good fft video to get a subscribe from me. Lol
ha! Well I have plenty! Thanks for the sub!
Why not give her 2 bags since she is a ninja
Bags are 2 handed, can't dual wield them.
Mime is also good for speed and if you master all classes onion knight is the best going up
mime doesn't raise speed, ninja and thief do.
Ramza Knight
Yell
Other Character Thief steal gil if they dont have accumulate.
You are correct
Chemist levels down better than dancer
Chemist will lose less physical attack but more hp and mp as you level down than dancer. Your choice but I prefer to lvl down as dancer.
There's an easier way. Max out somebody's level before recruiting said characters in Chapter 4. They join at around their level.
True to some extent. Cloud always shows up at level 1. And the non generics join with all those levels invested in their base class which means they aren't getting the kind of speed gains that they'd get if they had leveled as a ninja.
I'm curious why do you level them down? What is the benefit?
The process results in your characters gaining stats. Level up as a class like ninja to gain speed then level down as something like bard and you come out ahead stat wise.