That film of a gears up venom wasn’t that the rubber flight deck trials with winkle brown at the helm ,we knew how to build aircraft then we still do if we had our own industry ,looking forward to the build Cheers mate Mark 😊😊
Winkle did his tests with a Sea Vampire - makes for really interesting reading. The plan was brilliant given the size of our carriers and the power of jet engines at the time. And, with no wheels, the planes could be stacked below deck so you could carry a lot more!
Very nicely done, Gary, belly flopping on to a carrier must have made the pilot's Uranus squeak slightly as well as the carrier crew. I remember building the matchbox version many moons ago. Maybe Airfix may come to the rescue with a 1/48 boxing, which I thought would have come before the Vixen hay hoo. You never know.
At least it didn't have a fixed ventral fuel tank like the Supermarine Attacker did! You would think with so many post-war FAA planes coming out in recent years in 1/48th it would be only a matter of time before the Sea Venom joined in.
Didn't let us down Gary 😄great bit of history interesting to see that in the Suez Canal Crisis the D-Day invasions stripes in use and that France and Australia used it for a while, it may have stayed around a bit longer but of the fast development of other aircraft thanks again 👍
Both Novo and 1979 are a bit mis-leading on Scalemates as Novo had a zero production figure for the DH Sea Venom. If you find one in a Novo box it has a Suchumpribor labled kit inside, Novo owners DCM went into receivership in 1979/80 and Novo went with them, the remaining empty boxes were sent to the USSR to use. Apart from that the majority of the tooling wasn't 'sold' either, it was shipped to the Soviet Union 2 years earlier and paid for by returning a set number of kits back to Novo in the UK where they were packed into the blue boxes for retail. I think the only tooling sold was to Revell GB and possibly Red Star. You'll notice the 1980 date is the same one Hornby took over the Margate Rovex factory having themselves been rescued by Rovex in 1964, Rovex being owned by DCM since 1971. The UK's forgotten Toy industry history now gone full circle with Airfix in the same massive Margate Rovex factory Frog kits were produced.
Thanks for that detail - you should be running Scalemates! I love the complex interplay of all these many companies. It is eerie quite how much of the factory is still bare though when you go to Airfix - their tool store is dwarfed by empty space...
@@garys_stuff - yes would have been a hive of activity with a large workforce at one point lasting three decades or so, Tri-ang, Minic Motorways, Hornby, Frog and more besides all from there. The Revell GB factory in Potters Bar is still there too, the Scalextric factory in Havant also still there but neither with any surviving connection to their past so got to be grateful to Hornby for bringing in and keeping many of the old mighty company names alive from Margate. Scalemates is ok in my opinion, it wasn't a criticism, that particular Frog kitography just starts off after the two Frog issues with two kits that are effectively the same one. I'm a bit stuck in past to help much beyond there, you do well with the kitography's you cover, adds a nice touch to a subject kit.
I presume that the Venom/Sea Venom was an all metal aircraft? The preceding Vampire was wood/metal. I like the form of these early post war twin boom aircraft. Ian
As far as I am aware, certainly the early Venoms were of composite wood/metal construction (the Venom was originally the Vampire FB.8) even though they were a new design. I am not aware of any changes to the basic construction, but I'm sure there are many better historians of the type around who will know!
@@garys_stuff thanks for the response. It’s amazing how a jet fighter was partly built from wood. I’m sure that if they knew what they knew about cumulative stress etc even 10 years later they would have gone all metal! Ian
Produced by the same company, so maybe they went with what they knew. Similarly, I think the fuselage forward of the "hot bits" was wood as it was with its Vampire predecessor.
@@garys_stuffhi Gary....have you ever had to paint "curtains" on clear parts to cover up scratches...i have a Beagle Basset with 2 scratched windows so wondering what colour you would recommend for the curtains
Currently making the 1:32 Matchbox kit with new decals....... Loving every minute
Thanks Gary. Interesting stuff.
Amazing, great video as always. Looking forward to the build.
Another great but brief history lesson, thanks Gary, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia 👍👍👍👍
My pleasure Les!
That film of a gears up venom wasn’t that the rubber flight deck trials with winkle brown at the helm ,we knew how to build aircraft then we still do if we had our own industry ,looking forward to the build
Cheers mate
Mark 😊😊
Winkle did his tests with a Sea Vampire - makes for really interesting reading. The plan was brilliant given the size of our carriers and the power of jet engines at the time. And, with no wheels, the planes could be stacked below deck so you could carry a lot more!
@@garys_stuff imagine bouncing along hehe
UK industry is definitely broken, as is the rest of the UK. Those days will never return, sadly. Happy days.
Very nicely done, Gary, belly flopping on to a carrier must have made the pilot's Uranus squeak slightly as well as the carrier crew. I remember building the matchbox version many moons ago. Maybe Airfix may come to the rescue with a 1/48 boxing, which I thought would have come before the Vixen hay hoo. You never know.
At least it didn't have a fixed ventral fuel tank like the Supermarine Attacker did! You would think with so many post-war FAA planes coming out in recent years in 1/48th it would be only a matter of time before the Sea Venom joined in.
Good video on channel keep up the good video and build s thanks lee
Didn't let us down Gary 😄great bit of history interesting to see that in the Suez Canal Crisis the D-Day invasions stripes in use and that France and Australia used it for a while, it may have stayed around a bit longer but of the fast development of other aircraft thanks again 👍
Thanks Barry!
Both Novo and 1979 are a bit mis-leading on Scalemates as Novo had a zero production figure for the DH Sea Venom. If you find one in a Novo box it has a Suchumpribor labled kit inside, Novo owners DCM went into receivership in 1979/80 and Novo went with them, the remaining empty boxes were sent to the USSR to use.
Apart from that the majority of the tooling wasn't 'sold' either, it was shipped to the Soviet Union 2 years earlier and paid for by returning a set number of kits back to Novo in the UK where they were packed into the blue boxes for retail. I think the only tooling sold was to Revell GB and possibly Red Star.
You'll notice the 1980 date is the same one Hornby took over the Margate Rovex factory having themselves been rescued by Rovex in 1964, Rovex being owned by DCM since 1971. The UK's forgotten Toy industry history now gone full circle with Airfix in the same massive Margate Rovex factory Frog kits were produced.
Thanks for that detail - you should be running Scalemates! I love the complex interplay of all these many companies. It is eerie quite how much of the factory is still bare though when you go to Airfix - their tool store is dwarfed by empty space...
@@garys_stuff - yes would have been a hive of activity with a large workforce at one point lasting three decades or so, Tri-ang, Minic Motorways, Hornby, Frog and more besides all from there. The Revell GB factory in Potters Bar is still there too, the Scalextric factory in Havant also still there but neither with any surviving connection to their past so got to be grateful to Hornby for bringing in and keeping many of the old mighty company names alive from Margate.
Scalemates is ok in my opinion, it wasn't a criticism, that particular Frog kitography just starts off after the two Frog issues with two kits that are effectively the same one. I'm a bit stuck in past to help much beyond there, you do well with the kitography's you cover, adds a nice touch to a subject kit.
Love these videos Gary, they’re so interesting and informative. And after that I feel like building the model.
Looks like an interesting aircraft. Love the history, thanks for sharing! 😎🇨🇦
I presume that the Venom/Sea Venom was an all metal aircraft?
The preceding Vampire was wood/metal.
I like the form of these early post war twin boom aircraft.
Ian
As far as I am aware, certainly the early Venoms were of composite wood/metal construction (the Venom was originally the Vampire FB.8) even though they were a new design. I am not aware of any changes to the basic construction, but I'm sure there are many better historians of the type around who will know!
@@garys_stuff thanks for the response.
It’s amazing how a jet fighter was partly built from wood.
I’m sure that if they knew what they knew about cumulative stress etc even 10 years later they would have gone all metal!
Ian
I think the Sea Vixen is one of the most beautiful jets ever built
Is it just me or does the early canopy look like it's come off of a Mosquito!
You know how it is, bits of other projects lying around...!
Produced by the same company, so maybe they went with what they knew. Similarly, I think the fuselage forward of the "hot bits" was wood as it was with its Vampire predecessor.
@@garys_stuffhi Gary....have you ever had to paint "curtains" on clear parts to cover up scratches...i have a Beagle Basset with 2 scratched windows so wondering what colour you would recommend for the curtains