Is that a SAX in Your Pocket?! - Travel Sax 2 Review
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Jay Metcalf reviews the Travel Sax 2 digital saxophone.
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What a nice rotating gif!!! I wonder what the cost of this thing will be… when I put that gif into my llm I have been training for explodes cad schematics, pull up etcher, 2 pi’s and a few arduinos, and 3D print one. Shit mines going to have a screen and a hardware dedicated midi host
I asked for the new Selmer and my parents got me this.
Real
They'd heard your playing and made an investment decision? Never mind, at least you'll have some change in your pocket when you trade-in for your Novation Launchpad. (/s)
Lol
Your parents got you Jay?!
😂
I feel like this would be super useful to someone living in Japan. The walls they are basically paper-thin and you need to be super quiet all the time..
@@Clair_Voyant1122 Oh, yeah, I have indeed and yeah, it's not really quiet regardless.. But in japan you hear your neighbors fart next door. ^^; The walls are genuinely so thin you can hear your neighbors rustling. It's also not common to have good spaces for practice/people are much closer together because of high density housing. Maybe I said this wrong, but I kind of meant that this would be big in the Japanese market because things like this are just sought after. People are very conscious of bothering each other in Japan so there are a ton of products meant to be the Quiet versions, even on things we think of as quiet here in the US.
What a horrible way to live
@@kevykev1037 yeah, that is actually really rough. This is actually why love hotels exist in Japan by the way. Who wants to get it on knowing neighbors 3 units over can hear you... Especially with most Japanese people being so incredibly modest. As such, a lot of Japanese people would rather stop by a live hotel for an hour were there is decent sound proofing rather than in their own homes. 😅
Hey girl lets go out this weekend for a nice dinner and drinks. No, lets just get food to go and a hotel room...
Depends on we’re you’re living, at least on the apartment I used to live it never became a problem
cute instrument - over thirty years ago, when i was at college I basically gave up playing the saxophone because in student accommodation it was impossible to find anywhere to practice without disturbing people. I ended up selling it to help cover my student debt. What might have been!
I have been a user since the ts2 started shipping, and I cannot be happier with it. Whether practicing or just playing with it, I gain more and more confidence AND I look forward to those sessions during just about every break during my work night. I added an external plug in speaker and a sax neck to increase my tactile experience. Highly recommend this one.
Talk talk talk talk talk...just play it man...
@@equalrights9091 lol.. I'm almost sure you responded to the wrong comment, BUT..... You STOP playin', Man! lol
So a real sax neck will fit?
I bought one of these and love it. Fun, small, lightweight, easy for travel, and the fingering is close enough a real sax feel that I now choose this over my Roland Aerophone for quiet practice. I did have a mechanical problem with the unit. Odisei was fabulous in responding--first, they sent me a video link with suggestions. That didn't work. We set up a 30-minute video meeting and Ramon looked at the problem and gave me further suggestions. That didn't work. Then they had me send the unit back (at their expense), checked it, repaired it, and it's coming back today. I was a little apprehensive as a U.S. customer about how responsive their customer service would be, and I just want to praise them for being incredibly engaged with their customers. They are great people. Highly recommended.
Hi there, thanks for your insights regarding Odisei's customer service. How would you compare the level of transfer of fingerings to a real sax between practicing with the Travel Sax and the Aerophone? Do you still enjoy the Travel Sax nine months later? Kind regards :)
I really hope that they can make a clarinet version, because although its smaller on average, its still a pain for people near by, especially for the high notes. That and its really fricking cool!
Just get this?
If you play clarinet you also play the saxophone, whether you know it yet or not.
@@Peter-ff1tp no… no get out of my head! STAY BACK!
Not really. There's a number of notes that share the same fingering but a lot that don't too. You get one octave B to B thats pretty much the same, minus the Bb bis. Everything else is different.
I got behind the crowdfunding for the Travel Sax 1 and did preorder it there.
The first version of the Travel Sax was already very promising, but with some room for improvement.
The Travel Sax 2 is absolutely amazing. The perfect tool for practicing at all hours, everywhere, any place.
The keys respond very well, due to the new stainless steel key mechanism, very similar to a real saxophone.
It's also a great way to check your techinque, since you can see your fingers and you can control, if they move too far away from the keys (flying fingers).
The sounds of the built-in synthesizer are wonderful and you can now connect your headphones through the Aux-In input, without having to use a DAW.
I take it to all of my gigs, to practice on long trainrides, which is fortunately possible again after Corona, those dreaded masks all the other chagrin.
I can wholwheartedly recommend the Travel Sax 2 to anyone who is serious about becoming a better musician.
«He who stops getting better, stops being good» - Japanese proverb
Love that you had practical suggestions for the design.
Love your reviews! This little guy looks like a great practice instrument. Your opinions are always appreciated.
I was recommended this instrument at a local music shop in Barcelona when I went in to get my regular sax repadded. I mentioned that I travel a lot and don't get much of chance to practice and they really solved my problem! I agree that it is not the most perfect version, but the excellent realistic key shapes and response, and the small size of the instrument make it the perfect solution to my decades-long problem. I've really made strides since I bought it and am really pleased with it. Thanks for the tip on the extension and the fact that it is not really necessary to use a mouthpiece with a reed.
Me puede decir dónde puedo comprarlo?
I started to look into this because for me it’s kind of hard when you have a baby and trying not to disturb their sleep and trying to find some time to practice at the same time during the day, and I was waiting for your insights on this Jay, so thank you so much for this review, although I still think it’s still very expensive specially when I bought a brand new horn recently.
I just feel that for $200 more I can get a Roland wind synth with better sounds, bite sensor, etc.
Yes! I appreciate this presentation and the manufacture of this instrument.
Ordered mine earlier tonight after watching a bunch of reviews, and thanks to you i also got the three accessories for free so, thank you so much. Really hyped to get my hands on this baby after my Jsax turned out to be way to loud in our apartment couple years back :]
First of all…. The title of this video is THE BEST! OK, now the serious comments. Great review. Very informative and quite fair. Makes me want one of these so I can practice patterns or scales, etc. in between projects at work! Or just “jam” while I put my feet up. The best part, if I only have 10-20 minutes, I don’t have to haul out the real horn, then swab it and etc. all the routine for only a very short period of time. I’m not saying anything earth shattering so I’ll quit yapping and again say, an informative and very helpful review. Thanks Jay!
Been waiting for your review beige thinking of buying it! Thank you
Just discovered this for my friend, now he can step up his game by able to practice anywhere at anytime. Pretty cool device. Thanks
This is awesome. Actually considering this as a commuter college student. It would be awesome to be able to practice on the train, or at home and leave my sac at school, etc. thanks for the best content on TH-cam as per tradition
I love how the thumbnail is a direct response to the title
Thank you for making this video! I've lived in apartments for quite some time, and miss playing music. I hadn't played a Saxaphone for about 20 years. Decided to purchase a Travel Sax 2 after seeing this video and I LOVE IT. I can just sit in my Office Chair, Plug in My Headphones, Have Sheet Music on a monitor and go to town.
Great!
I've been waiting for this video all my life
I have never touched a sax in my life, not do I have a single microcosm of musical talent in my body. Yet, somehow, I found this in my recommendations and watched the entire thing...😁
The more you practise the more people will tell you how talented you are 😉 I've been playing the piano for over 20 years, thousands of hours of practising and performing and teaching, it would frankly be more impressive if I wasn't reasonably good at it by now.
Don't write yourself off before you've even tried (or worse, and far too commonly in my experience, because some teacher told you you sucked at the recorder in elementary school). I think talent does exist but it's overrated, there's definitely an extra something that performers at the absolute highest levels possess, but to be a competent amateur or a smaller scale professional (e.g. local gigs rather than international arenas) is still achievable for anyone who has a focused approach and can put the hours in.
just ordered one of these. im actually excited to have it help with freestyle training. the fact you can sing and "play" at the sametime is exactly what i need.
I also have a travel sax 2. I carry it with me everywhere.. just in case I have some spare time to practice a song I’m working on. I use it primarily to memorise songs from sheet music. And for me it translates directly over to the acoustic saxophone.
How's the key response? I had gotten the YDS (Yamaha) and couldn't hold on to it for even 6 months. I had to press the keys too hard. Much harder than I would on my regular horn. Got annoyed and worried about injury so sold it at a reasonable loss.
@@danielnavarodrigues9175 good Call on Selling it. In my opinion the key response is just as it should be. I haven’t thought about it for a second.
I just take my C soprano.
I got one. Big fan. The external speaker isn't great but I never use it. Really useful when travelling or late at night.
I was recently in hospital or an extended period and my Travel Sax 2 was a life saver
I just ordered mine i cant wait to play with it.
Jay! You and your TH-cam channel are great! Right after I saw your review of the Travel Sax 2 I ordered one from Sweetwater (ever hear of them?). I agree with just about everything that you said in your review EXCEPT that I didn’t mind the spring tension of the keys. I just received the instrument today and it’s very difficult to put it down; it’s so fun! Thanks for your honest reviews! My favorite videos of yours so far: Rigotti cane farm/factory tour, the differences between SBA and Mark VI, Yanagisawa tour, Selmer tour. Thanks for everything!
I haven’t ever seen or heard of a travel sax yet when I clicked on this video I got an add for a travel sax💀💀💀
Informative video. Subscribed! 👍🏼
Good review. If I had to travel frequently on business this would seem an excellent choice.
I've never even touched a sax but I like seeing tech like this.
I have had mine for a few weeks. The pluses are obvious and don't need repeating. The basic sound through the speaker is tinny . I get best results with earphones plugged in and Bluetooth headphones over the top.
Yeah I agree about the speaker. But really found no use for it as I tend to do silent practicing with headphones. Although the cat seems to be able to hear it even then
It enables saxophone players to play cello, and to play and sing at the same time! Awesome!
Exellent!!! Life-long pro pianist/French hornist, Bb trumpet these days, guitars (hack), theremin, vocals, rudimentary drums... I have a crazy notion to play the viola...
Still, sax is my 2nd fave instrument - just after guitar. If I win the lotto tomorrow, I'll have a C trumpet, a Schimmel K230 7.5 ft. grand piano and a Travel Sax 2 (and a badass viola).
OMG II need that! Thank you!
Wow, so much innovation in the vaping industry!!!
Looks pretty cool. I don't even play saxophone but i'd like to have one of these to mess around with
Already have YDS150. Programmable fingering for altissimo and enough settings to allow playing in c key for every key.
I can only confirm that the TS2 is a handy saxophone to practice and even more. It's ok to play using sax sounds to help reading scores, improve finger mechanics, training on intervals and so on.
It wins when connected to a DAW as a MIDI controller so I can record whatever instrument using a "keyboard" I'm used to.
Future developments? Well, yes, mainly two aspects:
1) pitch control. Is missing (for one that still plays Yamaha WX5)
2) extend octaves to more than the canonical ones
What is the difference between a practice sax and a wind controller? I was the first call New York session musician for Lyricon and then for wind controllers. I never thought of those instruments as saxophones of any kind, no more than I would confuse my flute with a sax.
I would think any instrument that seeks to function as a practice sax would need to do more than just function as a way to practice fingerings.
The only kind of wind controller I would use , and still do use, is the Yamaha WX-7 because in addition to using the breath transducer to expressively control volume and timbre I use the lip transducer to expressively control vibrato and pitch bend.
I literally stopped playing sax about 9 years ago because it was waaaay too loud to practice at home. I wish I had thought of something like this
I'm loving the trend in wind synths feeling more and more like the real thing physically.. am I right in thinking that so far, none of the wind synths or practice saxes have support for embouchure or growls?
Good review. A couple comments: The original Travel Sax was 3d printed; the Travel Sax 2 is injection molded plastic, stronger and more durable as I understand it, though like Jay I'm uncertain how mine will hold up after years of use. The keys, in particular, are inexpensive and easily replaceable (and probably most likely thing to break), so maybe not a big worry. I'm not sure how much more delicate it is than something like a real sax or an Emeo, metal construction is more durable but those objects are also much heavier and can get dinged, especially if they fall or tip over. Travel Sax 2 is light and seemingly fairly durable.
My second comment is that I don't think Jay mentioned that the Travel Sax 2 has Bluetooth midi built-in, so you can connect to synths on iPhone/iPad/computer without a USB cable. Latency for Bluetooth midi is quite low (unlike latency for Bluetooth audio).
Finally, regarding sounds, on iPhone/iPad or on a computer you have same selection of synths with Travel Sax 2 as you have with any other wind controller. For example, I've used Travel Sax 2 with the Respiro synth, same synth that has a limited version packaged with the Emeo. So, yes, sounds through built-in speaker of Travel Sax 2 are very basic, they sound somewhat better through headphones, but connect up to an iPhone/iPad or computer and you can get sounds that are as good as -- in fact the same as -- any other wind controller.
Travel Sax 2 does seem a little expensive for what it is. I think you just have to get that idea out of your head, realize that you're actually paying a premium for it to be small and lightweight, which is in fact a desirable and hard to find feature in saxophone-like wind controllers.
if it is 3d printed then probably they can provide the STL replacement files
"Travel Sax 2 does seem a little expensive for what it is"
Ya Think? It's a piece of plastic with a circuit board they want $600.00 dollars for. Not going to happen.
@@Temulon I get that you don't like it. How do you react to the many comparison videos on Better Sax where Jay compares an inexpensive sax with one costing 5 times, 10 times as much, or more? Do you say, "They're both hunks of metal with keys, and the average person can't tell any difference. They want 10 times as much for the expensive one?! Not going to happen."
@@hsitz I haven't seen any comparison videos on Better Sax, this is the first video I've ever seen on that channel.
Whether it's due to unions, trade embargo's, greed or whatever, yes, it's my opinion that most things on the market are overpriced.
I can understand craftsmanship and how people with exceptional skill levels and decades of experience should be paid for that knowledge.
But unless the instrument is being hand constructed out of rare materials I don't understand why a student sax should cost $700.00 and a professional sax could go for $20,000 dollars for a Selmer Paris.
The item being touted in this video is just injection molded plastic which houses a circuit board and a tinny speaker. Maybe, maybe a hundred dollars worth of material counting the board, which is selling for $600.00 dollars.
@@Temulon Hey, I have a Selmer Paris, and I like the fact that it's selling for $20,000. I do, however, totally agree that it's not worth what they are asking for it. Greed.
I don't know why this video was recommended to me. I don't play the sax. But this was so nice to watch that I want one now! or maybe I should learn how to play a normal sax first. As a bass player I always missed having a more portable instrument to pass the time.
Found your channel today, already love it, very thoughtful and honest. Question (for you and/or the community): Do you recommend this (or any electronic saxophone) for someone wishing to (re)learn to play? Context: I used to play saxophone about 15 years ago. I haven't played in over 13 years, and would like to go back into it, but because because it's been such a long time (and I was never really good xD) I am considering I'm back to step 0. I really crave going back to playing, but I live in NYC, and am VERY conscious of not being noisy to neighbors (and wife :p). So, an electronic saxophone would solve for this, but is there any good enough to be my main learning/practice instrument? Thank you in advance :)
I was hoping you would do a review of the TS2. Thanks. You provided a good analysis of the product, and I would agree with most of it. I just got back from a 1 month vacation, and carried the TS2 in my suitcase and pulled it out for daily practice of patterns and pieces I'm working on it. It worked.
However there are caveats. The keywork is clunky and not consistent: the bis is virtually unusable, forcing me to adopt alternate fingerings, and there are some keys starting to not fully close, sometimes I get a C when fingering an A, I think the A isn't closing properly.
It's great for working on ideas and for ear training, and handy to have around as a quick reference, ie when listening to the radio and thinking 'what was that lick', picking up the TS2 and working it out. Perfect. But, Donna Lee at 250, No. Autumn Leaves at 160 in all 12 keys, Yes.
great video!
When he said “click that like button” the like button turned rainbow
I bought an EWI a while back, but ended up returning it because I couldn't get a handle on controlling the dynamics with it's very sensitive breath sensor. You just can't push air through it like a real instrument, which made it very strange to play for me. Can anyone say if the travel sax is any different, with its ability to use a real mouthpiece?
Y'all I've snagged one and had been holding on saying anything until I was totally convinced. Long story short, this thing is awesome! It's obviously not a sax, but it's weirdly good for at home or on the road practice! The Bluetooth hookup for backing tracks and headphones plug in is super helpful. Finger layout is very good. There are some licks and tricks you can't do with it being sensor based, but other tricks I found that I could program the sax to pick up with certain fingering inputs. It seems almost awkward at first use, but I was completely hooked within one night of just lightly playing around. I picked up a neck strap to keep in the case, but it's so light that you honestly don't really need it. As you can tell, I actually 10/10 recommend this if you live in a place where playing your actual sax regularly is not feasible.
I was hoping you’d have your eye on this!!!!
I'm very interested because of the automatic mode and its use for ear training. Do any of the other electronic wind instruments like Roland have that automatic mode?
I'm so happy with mine!! Now I can practice anywhere. And BTW , the travel 2 is NOT 3D printed it is injection. I agree , they should put an AUTO OFF mode.
Yeah, I knew that didn't sound right because I could tell from the closeups that it was injection and could see the mold lines in the keys
I played sax from third grade to ninth and stopped once I fell in love with the guitar, which I was definitely more natural at. I'm considering ordering one just as a kind of "midi controller," since I'm really bad at piano and love adding non guitar instruments to my guitar tracks. Since there is an audio out I can put it through any number of processors and actually have it sound like a keyboard/piano, but with much more ease than a keyboard since I can still play saxophone fairly decent.
Did you create an alternate fingering for C# for the autoplay feature? If so, what fingering do you suggest?
I'm not even a musician and I find that fascinating.
How is this compare to the Yamaha digital saxophone ? Is it better or the same ?
I was hoping this would be a more affordable alternative the the YDS but apparently it costs almost as much even though it's 3D printed and lacking a lot of features
The fingering layout is best for which instrument?
Hi. Is this a Bb or a Eb saxophone or can you do both by pressing a button? I play alto, tenor, soprano & baritone on stage and I don’t want to re-learn some song.
If or when the next iteration comes out with a more convincing sound, I would love one as something I can practice without worrying about annoying those around me. I've been sitting on getting a tenor sax for a years now. I can save for it, but noise complaints has been a hard barrier for me. My only concern as someone who is a complete novice, I think It may give me bad habits
I definitely wouldn’t recommend starting out with this. A real saxophone is definitely a super different experience. Stuff like embouchure, breath control, tone, accents aren’t available with this
Can it be used to trigger a sound module like a Yamaha Rack Motif? That would be amazing to get away from the EWI challenges.
I am the furthest thing from a sax player, none of the instruments I play even have a mouthpiece but god DAMN this looks like such a cool purchase for a sax player.
Well Jay my man you convinced on two pieces of equipment. The travelsax2 and burnin 6# tenor sax mpc. If the mpc works then I’m buying the alto. The travelsax2 thing that got was the springs and the keys. The thing that got me on the mpc is your rendition of Georgia on tenor a song that I’ve been requested to play next week. Great job on both items.
Great to hear
I want one!
That's really nice ngl
I'm really happy to see your video today ! I purchased the Travelsax 1 when it first came out in order to practice scales and tunes, the usual stuff. Had it refunded in one day. The team is adorable and their concept is nice ! But the object in itself was catastrophic and virtually unplayable, especially when going a little fast. Seeing some videos about the second version, notably you and my teacher Baptiste Herbin, I see that even very high level players like you two seem to struggle playing it. And This is the main caveat to me. A practice instrument should feel very natural and easy to play for everyone, especially pros. It should be easy to switch from the real sax to this one. And it doesn't seem so. So how can someone practice if it's not easy to play ? Thanks for the review !
cheap digital instrument is nowhere comparable to acoustic one (yet)
What would you recommend for a flute player interested in a wind synth?
No. I'm just happy to see you.
I wish all saxes were this size. I have small fingers and struggle reaching (and playing) low Bb. 😁
The latency is still a pain. Great review 🙂
Would it be a good practice aid? Honest question. (if it hasnt been asked already)
Can this only be played through the app or does it have midi connectivity?
Jay, thank you so much for the review and description of the travel sax 2. I did see the original travel sax when it came out but thought it was silly with the actual MP and reed. I didn’t understand how it could be silent with an actual MP and reed with air going through it.
Anyway, I just ordered the TS2 and got the accessories because of your video. I had the original Roland AE10 and bought the Roland AE30 immediately after it came out. I travel with the Roland AE30 and play it daily. It’s an incredible instrument but still a bit big for travel when I don’t actually have to play it live. This little travel sax2 solves the travel issue for me. Questions , the app allows you to change the instruments key? Bb, Eb, C or whatever you want?
The instrument uses regular alkaline or rechargeable batteries?
Yea you can change the key with the app and it has a rechargeable battery inside.
Jay, I received the travel sax2 on Monday and it completely broke 3 days later. Your review was not accurate. The Bluetooth sound always disconnected when changing instrument sounds. The actual sounds from the speaker are awful and not much better via headphones. I downloaded Swam audio modeling and it wasn’t much better. My travel sax2 stopped playing any sounds after using three times and now I’m stuck with an expensive 3d plastic defective instrument. I understand the company compensated you but your review wasn’t honest. 😮
Thank you, Jay @bettersax, as always. You alluded to the risk of developing bad embouchure habits (at around 4:20). Can you please explain more? I.e., is it possible to travel for a few weeks and use this, either with the mouthpiece attachment or the "recorder" attachment that you primarily use here? Or should a sax player do other things -- e.g., playing one's regular mouthpiece setup on a silencer, or isometric exercise -- to keep the chops in shape? If I break down the problem of travel without much sax playing, I think it has 3 main parts - keeping (1) your overall playing (scales, improvising, playing tunes, etc.), (2) your embouchure, and (3) your wind power in shape. It seems like the Travel Sax 2 helps chiefly with #1 only. I'm curious what you think or if you see enough interest to do a video on how to stay in shape while traveling without a sax. I'm making a few other assumptions here, like (a) not bringing a soprano sax and/or (b) going to countries where I'd prefer something small like a Travel Sax 2, hidden in a bag, to carrying a pro horn around that's obviously expensive goods. Thanks, Andrew
do any other instruments have stuff like this being made or do companies only care for making saxophones
One question, how is the latency playing over bluetooth? Is there a delay.
That's a wild looking vape
I love watching your content, as someone who is completely obsessed with sax music you should do a giveaway for a sax so I can get a chance to get one seeing how I’ll never be able to afford a good one
How do you adjust the key tension of this? Im having trouble with it.
We live in the future my friends, and it’s a crazy world.
Something that's not clear to me: Is there an output where I could plug this into a PA and actually play along with a backing track? Can you use the headphone out jack for that?
I would like to be a future saxophoneista !!thank you!!
Excellent investment for Sax Players 👌🏾🎵
How will the sound of wind instruments increase and decrease as you blow?
I will hold up long enough for version 3 to come out.
Perfect for having a little sax
10:40 should i be doubting my eyesight? I see that as teal or light blue, unless teal is considered a green, im confused :/
Well done! And do you Knowles the Suiss invention Synthophone?
Just curious to know if anyone has tried the Maui Xaphoon Pocket Sax? Clearly not comparable to the instrument featured here (or many other higher priced models) but I was intrigued enough to buy one. $67 USD - practically pocket change. Sound samples can be found on you tube and I've found a few that sounded pretty impressive, all things considered.
nice
What is the best sax to learn from for a beginner that has key location like a real sax and wouldn’t have to worry about noise in a apt. Also reasonable price for a beginner. Thank you!
Hi I'm a novice sax player who unfortunately has a commute and I get home very late and live in an apartment and can't practice midweek. I was wondering if you would recommend this tool to me as a newbie?Thanks
I love travel sax
What is the lag like over Bluetooth MIDI, please?
how does it compare to the yamaha yds 150
How can I find someone to lighten the key action on it? I'm a bit clumsy and scared to try it myself
Can the key it plays in be selected?
Hi i am interested with this saxophone but i am beginner do u recommend this?