I enjoy the Celebrity Game and the 3-Point Contest. Those are what the All-Star game should be: A chance to see our favorite people competing against each other.
It DOESNT matter because the SPORT MEDIA has spent the last 10 years saying the only things that matter are RINGS, and now the players treat everything NON playoff related like a half seriously
@@TheMattTrakker yea, correct. I did notice that some teams...like the ones that like to run, are now starting to firm up their defense. I really like that trend to go more defense now for those run & gun teams. It's been pretty impressive.
Decades ago they actually played because of the money they could make in that game. Now because of the ridiculous money they make they can’t afford to get hurt in this game.
All all stars games are relics of the past. The novelty was seeing stars you normally wouldn’t see playing with and against players they rarely play with or against. With cable, streaming, league pases and free agency. The novelty has worn off.
That isn't why. The players today are SPOILED DIVAS and no longer care about the fans. The pay doesn't equate with the product. That problem has peaked though that is why Jordan and Cuban both have sold. No business survives when the output doesn't equate with pay things will and should come back down to earth. No executive will continue to pay for such a bad product
You're partially right. I always loved the MLB All-star game because the AL and NL never played against each other until the World Series. That was really fascinating to watch. I think it would be better for the NBA if the West only played the West and the East only played the East. Then we wouldn't know how awful the East is right now. It means less travel too. Better rivalries, et
Adam Silver had to be disgusted with all the players standing around like there was a continual time-out...the only thing I didn't hear were the whistles
I just watched the 1987 all-star game a couple of weeks ago. And it was spectacular. Those guys really wanted to win that game. This modern game is a complete joke, but people keep buying tickets and watching so…🤷🏽♂️
@@Michael-ir8zs Would you have that same energy if it was your son that was a pro athlete? I get it the ASG was trash, but the money another adult making should not be in question.
Make it a 3 on 3 tournament. 24 players, 8 teams. Single elimination. Two nights, 15 min/game. 1st night: first round- 4 games, and the 3 pt. contest. Second night, last two rounds- 3 games + dunk contest.
@@ConspiracyNutsMakeMeLOLwith respect, there might only be a few guys that are playing for new contracts. Everyone else is on a fully guaranteed deal regardless of injury. They should go much harder in the game than they do currently
OR make it so that whoever won the All-Star game got exempted from the 65-regular season game rule, these guys will play their butt off to get the right to rest more, lol.
Legit adam silver is so bad as a commisioner. Way to soft on the players. He's enabled them to the point that they will miss games, without injury. That's how bad it is.
He was still the commissioner when it was becoming what it is today. Y'all act like Stern was some righteous figure. His job was to make sure the NBA was a profitable business just like Silver is doing and like every other commissioner in professional sports
Unpopular opinion maybe this is why they killed kobe.. if you watch his untimely death and what he was doing before his passing kinda makes you wonder.. I never understood the nba if they knew it was going to get this awful why didn't they help kobe he wanted to help the younger generation he wanted to help the kids turn away from the kids leagues with his mamba and mambacita sports academy.. and then his departure from Nike legal battle for his black mamba logo, to going up against coke and Gatorade and making body armor the best drink for everyone and taking down coke and Gatorade as the top seller and much more ventures that would of made him a multi billionaire. 🤔
I actually watched some of it this year. It was essentially people chucking half court shots, grabbing rebounds with no one else in the paint then running back out to the 3 point line to chuck another 3 point attempt. Ridiculous.
And going all the way to the rim with no one trying to even pretend to stop them. Kids today argue the modern player is just waaay more talented, hence the higher scoring but that's absolutely not the case, the defense isn't allowed to actually try to stop the offense anymore, the NBA wants higher scoring. If I go to the park and no one defends me as I shoot from where I want and I get to the rim unhindered, I will absolutely score more 😅 Now if they put a defender on me and they try to not let me score, obviously I will score less but explain that to today's younger generation 😅 Common sense isn't that common amongst them.
No one says its the only criteria....Championship matters but anyone with a brain would rate CP3 over Rajon Rondo or Charles Barkley over Draymond Green.
@@JeLifeCoacha great measuring stick is how they play during the 82 game season and the playoffs. An all star game has no meaning whatsoever. Westbrook was back to back all star mvp and nobody cared to bring that up when he was being ridiculed as apart of the lakers. People just need something to complain about
All-star game mattered before social media because it was a chance to showcase your skills to a larger audience. Now I see street ballers on Instagram with better dunks and handles than the best NBA players. Things change. It's not the superstar players' fault. Oh and btw Kobe's last ASG's were also defenseless pick up games, Rich.
don't buy that alot of players now are entitled and spoiled being an all star mean something and real players want to compete and win....while showcasing what they can do aganist fellow greats.....social media has nothing to do with it you have 82 games to showcase your skills to larger audience plus playoffs.
" Now I see street ballers on Instagram with better dunks and handles than the best NBA players." No you don't. As far as the ASG is concerned, I think it has more to do with the players' mentality. It used to be a contest of pride: who's the best. When I was in college, we used to rush to the Rec when we heard that so and so was going to be there because we knew that they would throw down on the court. Now, it's just pure entertainment because today's players don't care about pride, but presidents (ie money). I don't think enacting different rules will help. The only thing that can change it is the players. The league should just stick to silly shooting contests and drills from now on.
@@nottelling4828why not? We used to see players with better handles and dunks in And1. At least flashier handles and dunks. I assure you I've seen better dunks on the Internet than I did the other night, except for the white boy, who funnily enough isn't an NBA player.
@@doc8013: I used to think that as well until I saw an actual NBA player in person with my own eyes. They (professionals) are on an entirely different level. Granted, I could see where a guy could have crazy hops outside of the NBA. That's entirely believable.
@@nottelling4828 I'm not talking about talent. Those guys aren't anywhere close to the talent of an NBA player. But having flashy handles can be done by any athlete who works really hard at it. And jumping is jumping, a lot of folks outside the league have much better hops than those in the dunk contest the last several years.
It sucks because all of the players are friends. They all are familiar with each other. No one hates the other side. No one wants to embarrass the other. No one wants to say, “I’m the best, I am king of kings!” You can see a more competitive game in just about every city in America…just go to the neighborhood park. 💯🤷🏾♂️
I love how the media and fans dont take responsibility for being obsessed with championships.Devalueing regular season awards and All Star Achievements! This is what we will get from the players.All that matters is rings right.
Exactly that was his LAST all star game, meaning his time/era was over. At this point Kobe been passed the torch. Most of the players in that game still play today. We could make the argument this was the start point of what has become the trash it is today.
If you like it watch. If you dont.. dont watch.. Simple.. Its an all star game no one will try when you have real games the same week. They are trying to rest.. they only play hard in summer time games because there is time to rehab if injured.. What if you fav teams star gets hurt.. then what.. life goes on..
Nobody in the media got this right. A lot of us fans enjoyed watching the players smile and showboat and hangout together. Yes a competitive game would be awesome but nobody wants to see a star get hurt so who actually cares.
I feel like in the big picture, all of this is a result of the modern ring culture in the nba. Regular season games don't matter, all star games are meaningless, even some playoff games are often forgotten unless it's a closeout or a game 7, soon the perceived value of regular season mvps are gonna drop as well. It's annoying cause the nba is supposed to be entertaining as a combination of all of these things, not just rings.
Rich Eisen , you love Adam Silver? The same guy who said the NBA was getting too physical back in the day and changed rules to make it into a horse race? Come on Rick, the best NBA Commissioner was the late David Stern, it changed the league from a local competition into a great international show.
The question is why should it matter. It's literally an exhibition game that bears no weight on the season. These are the best players on teams of which if they get hurt it seriously impacts the season
@@Notchibald_Johnson that’s when players started shooting the three at an incredibly efficient rate. So to offset that, people want them to play harder but that is silly because all people actually care about is the playoffs and not a meaningless all star game.
But the regular season means something towards the ultimate goal. The all star game literally means nothing. Most of them would rather be all nba than an "all star". Just dont watch the game if its so painful to watch. Simple as that.@@thefebo8987
@@jaycurry5593Exactly. Nobody’s saying you need to be balls-out full throttle diving head first into the 3rd row after a loose ball, but at least make it a decent pickup game.
Karl Malone setting a pick in the All-Star Game speaks volumes. It means someone was actually guarding Kobe. It means Malone was applying fundamentals of offensive teamwork. Kobe waving him off means he actually cared.
Why can’t they just play a competitive game like they did for decades up until a few years ago. Does a 83rd game really cause the breaking point of you getting an injury?
You don't want that because the international players will win every time and the American fans will just get more and more angry seeing their players not caring to win
And if you don’t want to watch it, you don’t need to watch it. “There should be no All-Star games anymore?” Just because it’s not exactly what you want? Goddamn we’re entitled these days aren’t we?
So the thing is... No one likes it. The players don't care the media doesn't care the owners don't care and the fans don't care. That's why they are saying cancel it. The whole thing is Only being done because of tradition not cause anyone enjoys it. So yes everyone is going to say cancel it cause we all agree it should be cancelled at this rate
Noone is going to sign up to potentially get exposed. The only event that players seem to have no issue competing in seriously is the 3 point contest, and that’s probably because even “bad” scores are usually really good performances
It's not the 1980s anymore. The internet exists and social media is prevalent. People don't need an all star game on TV to watch NBA stars anymore, they can check them out whenever they want in their highlights.
I remember the days as a huge basketball fan marking the ASG on my calendar and longing for it as the biggest celebration of the year, it was something sooo special. I would plan for weeks for it (emotionally and ritually) making sure no one disturbs me, no homework to do or events to attend, warning anyone not to even contemplating of disturbing me. It was magic. Now I mark the day and always miss it only to start watching the game on Sunday (after noticing FB posts) and switching it off just before halftime; meanwhile I do other stuff while it’s on background. Now I don’t even know which city is held at till I check the logo markings on the court.
It feels like the players are proud to be chosen, but aren’t really interested in playing the game. Like being chosen gives them an opportunity to play a game that doesn’t matter to them.
This is why the most popular sport in the world doesn't have All-Star games, halftime shows or celebrity involvement. If that was a football game with football fans in attendance every player would've gotten booed out of the building or worse for disrepecting the game. The longer the NBA keeps doing this, the harder it will be for them to find new fans both domestically and especially internationally that will care about the NBA
At the end of the day, it's bigger than eliminating the All-Star game. Last night displayed everything wrong with the NBA. Nearly 170 3-pointers, combined, hoisted up; no defense, little to no effort, sheer hubris they displayed and to name the trophy after Kobe Bryant, who would roll in his grave seeing what the league has become. This is the modern NBA.
It's a relic from a bygone era. The era where you only saw non-local market games 1x a week and hoped your team was in those games, but more than likely it was just a big market team like NY, Boston, LA, Chicago. The era where your local team was on cable TV. The era where your "only" exposure to non local teams was thru highlights and the ESPN cable channel. Now, with the internet and 24/7/365 streaming services, you literally have access to every player and every team every single night of the week if you want it. The players don't care. The TV execs don't really care (TV contracts aren't getting negotiated based on the all-star game) The true losers in all this are the fans that actually pay money to see this or watch it on TV.
This is the truth. And there’s really no way to put that genie back in the bottle. Just seeing collections of players playing against each other means nothing because we’ve seen it already. There has to be something truly unique about it in order for both players and fans to care.
MLB did the first all-star game in 1933. Think of the context. There was no television then and the two leagues only played against each other in the World Series so there were stars going against each other that had never faced off before. That game would have been quite a spectacle. All-Star games really don't have a reason to exist these days. Not only is every game televised but we can see highlight packages on TH-cam and all the players are on social media and are widely visible to the general public. There is less of a novelty in seeing sports star now compared to even 20 years ago. If they want to be, these guys are everywhere. You don't need a special event to see them. It makes sense that players won't really put in much an effort when the all-star game serves no real purpose and is just done out of tradition. The leagues should just not bother and just name all-stars at the end of the season. If they still need a break then just have a mid-season break.
You nailed it. Also, the MLB ASG was created to make money during The Depression, because baseball was feeling the hit like everything else. But today? Everything's available every day. All the ASG'S should be retired.
Just make this stuff matter in the postseason since that's ultimately the slander that is always pulled out for a player no matter what they do in the regular season. The players heard that nothing they do matters if they don't have postseason success so they now act accordingly by mostly not caring about the regular season. Make all the in season stuff somehow equal a home postseason game and players would try. Win the skills, dunk, 3pt contest? Win the Allstar game? In season tourney? Anything new that can be added? Same thing, get a play-at-home chip. Stack your chips and whichever team has more has that many more home games in a playoff series. The best players with real ambition would now make themselves available and actually try.
What I don’t understand is when they get together over the summer and play in HS gyms for free but at the All Star game while being paid they can’t put an effort for the fans. It’s because they couldn’t care less about their fans. $50 million to play basketball is a joke.
in the end, it will be shown the NFL took the right approach to the pro bowl. it was always an exhibition game. the NFL was right to turn the pro bowl into a laid back, fun time for the players & the fans. nba players make so much money now, i can only see possibly 2 ways to try to keep the all star game competitive. first, make the players who are selected to the all star game stand in front of people from a charity of their choice & pledge to those folks they're going to bring them back a huge donation by helping their team to win. to whichever teams loses, those players will then have to stand in front of the people they previously made a pledge to & tell them they let them down. the other option perhaps would be to have all star selections pick a backup from their team's roster to play in their place. let the back ups fight for the bag. just a couple of thoughts.
Keep East vs West. 1.) Maintain how the 5 starters of each conf. team are selected (fan, media, player votes). 2.) Have coaches select ONLY 3 (bench) players per team. 3.) Commissioner/League chooses addl. 6 players per team, taking into account fan/coaches votes. Team size becomes 14players. 4.) Incentivize WINNING Coaching Staff only, so they actually coach. 5.) Here's the kicker -- only the (voted) starters (10), the coach selected players (6), and ONLY the remaining 8 players from the WINNING team gets to keep the All-star TAG. The others LOSE IT, like they were not named all-stars at all. So you have about half of the team (maybe) wanting to play hard, not just for bragging rights, but bec. of contract-based incentives they get for being named an all-star, which most of these guys have for sure. (Losing maybe means *chips on their shoulders for next year). 6.) Total official All-stars will (still) be 24 players (as it is now, excl. inj. replacements.)
How can you LOVE Adam Silver seeing what the game has become? Not just the ASG.. but the regular season games! No other sports' regular season means less to it's players. They HATE the fans! Vote with your dollars gang! Boycott these fools! How dare they ask for more money in THIS economy!! Sad..
I remember when the NBA was in fact watchable but now it isn’t and even All Star weekend isn’t. The game has become all threes and no defense, no variety in playstyles or differences in anyway. If you’re not a shooter you don’t get picked or even drafted and that’s a shame knowing variety is what made teams and players great but now there is none of that
Like you said, "It's a players league", so, put it to the players, What do the players want to do, Do they want to have an All Star weekend or should it be cancelled and, if we continue what are the players willing to commit to? What about a NBA All Stars vs Euroleague All Star game?
I remember when it was Dwight Howard and Nate Robinson in the dunk contest. I remember the duel between Zach Lavine and Aaron Gordon in that dunk contest. Then it got very bad very quickly. The NBA needs to do All-Star weekend after the regular season but before playoffs and have them play games or something like the NFL does It being a "player's league" is part of the problem. The players have too much power.
They need to make the all star game like boxing title cards: center vs center, pf vs pf, sf vs sf, sg vs sg, pg vs pg. have them match up and put their egos against each other. Maybe they’ll finally play defense again if they don’t want to look worse than the guy in front of them.
The new 65 game rule for regular season awards means guys will never commit to this game. Imagine Luka getting hurt and not making the all NBA first team therefore losing out on the biggest contract in NBA history. It will never happen.
The nba all-star game is less competitive than offseason pick-up games. Arguably the least competitive ball these stars play in their whole lives. Something is seriously wrong
Here’s a solution…Don’t cancel the All Star weekend! Cancel the players who don’t care about all Star weekend. How can you tell which players to cancel? Look at their load management hours!
Give the All-Star winning side (West or East) every home court advantage in the entire NBA Playoffs. That will make guys play normal because most all-star players are on teams that will be in the playoffs.
They should play the next ASG at Rucker Park, make it about fan interaction, then watch the crowd boo mercilessly when players don't try. They game will pick up intensity real quick.
🤔3 Suggestions to fix the ASG: 1. Pay them to make the game matter - money for winning the in season tournament, why not money for the ASG? 2. Add a one on one tournament and get rid of the skills comp. 3. Dunk contest, hold it Saturday w/ 3 dunks each but voting is by the fans, overnight, and winner announced Sunday. (p.s. keep the 3pt as is - best thing going)
The inconsistency with Silver has ruined basketball. Rule changes, changing the format of the all star game, adding in a stupid in season tourney, too many changes. They should’ve never changed anything. Dumb
I really don't understand the love for Adam Silver. The other commissioners like Goodell and Manfred always get criticized while that guy seems to get a free ride from the media. Silver has done nothing to grow the game of basketball. The product has gotten worse over the years and the NBA is not exactly hitting it out of the park TV ratings wise either.
I’ll say the unpopular opinion - it’s absolutely a players league. Also, the employees will rarely make the company better when they get to make all the decisions. They’re so close to ruining this league and I don’t think they get it just yet.
Get rid of the 3pt line. As soon as someone takes a 30-40 ft shot, it sends a signal to everybody that the game is not that serious. No one is guarding anybody at halfcourt.
The All star game is just a reflection of the modern NBA. You turn on a game and its 98% drawing fouls and throwing obnoxious levels of 3s with zero inside big man game. Pro Bowl has become a joke too. Its just middle school gym class now.
NBA sucks all around. Like watching paint dry. 7’ man 2.5 Wingspan. Putting in a 10’ basket. This is a skill less game. Change the game. 1 point for a dunk. 4 points for the 3 point shot. This sport at the NBA level is terrible
Limit it to actual All-Stars as the name suggests. Only All-Stars in the dunk, 3-point and skills competition (who cares if they're not on the same roster during the regular season). Replace the game with a 3 on 3 tournament of only All-Stars, single elimination. Each player from the winning team gets 100k donated to a charity of their choice. They might actually complete that way.
it's pronounced you-ness-cue (Ionescue); Dan Patrick also couldn't pronounce her name, he kept saying "eye-oh-nes-kew" (which just goes to show he hasn't watched or heard a single moment of her career or news coverage).
This is what happens when you pay people guaranteed money. Had this same problem at a job as an hourly server.. nobody wanted to take tables because they were already guaranteed money.
I honestly don't understand the love for him. Goodell and Manfred are always getting bashed while that guy seems to get a free ride from the media. Adam Silver has done nothing to grow the game of basketball. The product has gotten worse over the years and they're not exactly hitting out of the park TV ratings wise.
The problem is you have a few guys that are incredibly selfish and are trying really hard to win the MVP. Get rid of the MVP award and the game will be much better.
In my opinion, the common reason for most of major sports having product mediocrity problem is the lack of market competition. Like back in the 1970's the ABA was challenging the NBA as another option for pro ball, both as a player and a fan. Now when the nba is without any competition. If there was another pro league in the states that was challenging the NBA, the product would be way more competitive. Just like the 2k decline.
Pro Bowl is literally an actual flag football game now. Just a matter of time before this is implemented into regular season games. All the major pro sports have competition problems much worse than their all-star games. You just get to see the most extreme versions of where their games are heading in these games.
"Just a matter of time before this is implemented into regular season games" people have been chicken-littling about the nfl for decades. any slight step away from violence is seen as "going soft". the crying says more about you then it does about the nfl.
As a lifelong hoops fan, it’s become UNwatchable, the ENTIRE weekend is abysmal
I enjoy the Celebrity Game and the 3-Point Contest. Those are what the All-Star game should be: A chance to see our favorite people competing against each other.
It's been that way for 15 years
Only the 3-point shootout is entertaining.
@@markbartoszek8585 every game they play is a three point contest
The whole nba has been unwatchable for the last 20 years.
I remember when i used to look forward to the NBA allstar game. I havent even bothered to tune in in several years.
We used to get absolutely stoked about it! Unlike now, polar opposite
Hell yea I use to go to my homies crib and we would have a bunch of food back when they all wore their teams attire… now it’s all bullshiiii
I didn’t even know it was All Star weekend at the time. That’s how uninteresting it’s been.
It DOESNT matter because the SPORT MEDIA has spent the last 10 years saying the only things that matter are RINGS, and now the players treat everything NON playoff related like a half seriously
I love that someone said to me, “I don’t want to see the all-star game, I’m not trying to see them score 200 points and not try….”
He nailed it. 😂
isnt that just the majority of the nba season at this point?
I’d love to see how many games this season were under 200 points lol
@@TheMattTrakker yea, correct. I did notice that some teams...like the ones that like to run, are now starting to firm up their defense. I really like that trend to go more defense now for those run & gun teams. It's been pretty impressive.
200points is fine. As long as each team doesn't do it!
I grew up in the 90s and the All Star Game was a Battle every time.
Now it’s just embarrassing.
Was it tho?
@@Renegade-kf8fpit was sorry you missed it
@@Renegade-kf8fp There's past all-star games on youtube. They actually played like it's regular season
Decades ago they actually played because of the money they could make in that game. Now because of the ridiculous money they make they can’t afford to get hurt in this game.
Its almost like things have changed
Great point
Back then I think they honestly didn't know how to turn off their competitiveness. Like it wasn't in them to not try.
@@raymondvaldez4101 for the worst
@@raymondvaldez4101 It's almost like he's criticizing the changes
All all stars games are relics of the past. The novelty was seeing stars you normally wouldn’t see playing with and against players they rarely play with or against.
With cable, streaming, league pases and free agency. The novelty has worn off.
That isn't why. The players today are SPOILED DIVAS and no longer care about the fans. The pay doesn't equate with the product. That problem has peaked though that is why Jordan and Cuban both have sold. No business survives when the output doesn't equate with pay things will and should come back down to earth. No executive will continue to pay for such a bad product
@@scottgollahon3681Don’t watch
You're partially right. I always loved the MLB All-star game because the AL and NL never played against each other until the World Series. That was really fascinating to watch.
I think it would be better for the NBA if the West only played the West and the East only played the East. Then we wouldn't know how awful the East is right now. It means less travel too. Better rivalries, et
@@scottgollahon3681 every nba player is spoiled? That’s an interesting take.
Adam Silver had to be disgusted with all the players standing around like there was a continual time-out...the only thing I didn't hear were the whistles
I just watched the 1987 all-star game a couple of weeks ago. And it was spectacular. Those guys really wanted to win that game. This modern game is a complete joke, but people keep buying tickets and watching so…🤷🏽♂️
at the old Kingdome, heck yea.
Modern NBA is a joke. Players hop from team to team. There's no real loyalty anymore. Players sit out to rest during games. Not much defense, etc.
@@Anthony-n9n6uThere is no loyalty going both ways. Social Media plays a huge part of it when you got people telling a player you do not have a ring.
@@Michael-ir8zs Would you have that same energy if it was your son that was a pro athlete? I get it the ASG was trash, but the money another adult making should not be in question.
Make it a 3 on 3 tournament. 24 players, 8 teams. Single elimination. Two nights, 15 min/game. 1st night: first round- 4 games, and the 3 pt. contest. Second night, last two rounds- 3 games + dunk contest.
Still an injury risk... unnecessarily
Love the idea tho
@@ConspiracyNutsMakeMeLOLwith respect, there might only be a few guys that are playing for new contracts. Everyone else is on a fully guaranteed deal regardless of injury. They should go much harder in the game than they do currently
I think it might be better to flip the 3 pt and dunk contests.
@@jeremyjackson8288 a lot to risk for your team if you get injured and many all stars are on contenders.
In single elimination every game would have 2 teams trying to lose so they didn't have to keep playing more games
Just put the In Tourney Championship in place of the All-Star game
💯 and have a dunk contest for half time
OR make it so that whoever won the All-Star game got exempted from the 65-regular season game rule, these guys will play their butt off to get the right to rest more, lol.
What's the purpose of the Tournament championship again? I don't get it.
David Stern would not have let the All Star game regress to what it is today. Absolutely not
💯
He wouldnt have let the League turn into the Charmin fest either
Legit adam silver is so bad as a commisioner. Way to soft on the players. He's enabled them to the point that they will miss games, without injury. That's how bad it is.
He was still the commissioner when it was becoming what it is today. Y'all act like Stern was some righteous figure. His job was to make sure the NBA was a profitable business just like Silver is doing and like every other commissioner in professional sports
Unpopular opinion maybe this is why they killed kobe.. if you watch his untimely death and what he was doing before his passing kinda makes you wonder.. I never understood the nba if they knew it was going to get this awful why didn't they help kobe he wanted to help the younger generation he wanted to help the kids turn away from the kids leagues with his mamba and mambacita sports academy.. and then his departure from Nike legal battle for his black mamba logo, to going up against coke and Gatorade and making body armor the best drink for everyone and taking down coke and Gatorade as the top seller and much more ventures that would of made him a multi billionaire. 🤔
I actually watched some of it this year. It was essentially people chucking half court shots, grabbing rebounds with no one else in the paint then running back out to the 3 point line to chuck another 3 point attempt. Ridiculous.
And going all the way to the rim with no one trying to even pretend to stop them. Kids today argue the modern player is just waaay more talented, hence the higher scoring but that's absolutely not the case, the defense isn't allowed to actually try to stop the offense anymore, the NBA wants higher scoring. If I go to the park and no one defends me as I shoot from where I want and I get to the rim unhindered, I will absolutely score more 😅 Now if they put a defender on me and they try to not let me score, obviously I will score less but explain that to today's younger generation 😅 Common sense isn't that common amongst them.
Once y'all determined players careers are only defined by championships why should they care about all-star games or the regular season?
Exactly
No one says its the only criteria....Championship matters but anyone with a brain would rate CP3 over Rajon Rondo or Charles Barkley over Draymond Green.
Because the nba all star game is the only time you can see the 20 best players in the NBA go head to head. It’s a great measuring stick.
@@JeLifeCoacha great measuring stick is how they play during the 82 game season and the playoffs. An all star game has no meaning whatsoever. Westbrook was back to back all star mvp and nobody cared to bring that up when he was being ridiculed as apart of the lakers. People just need something to complain about
@@LL-si9clthat’s cool and all but people act like Barkey, Ewing and Malone types don’t matter anymore because of no rings. Don’t act like you blind
All-star game mattered before social media because it was a chance to showcase your skills to a larger audience. Now I see street ballers on Instagram with better dunks and handles than the best NBA players. Things change. It's not the superstar players' fault. Oh and btw Kobe's last ASG's were also defenseless pick up games, Rich.
don't buy that alot of players now are entitled and spoiled being an all star mean something and real players want to compete and win....while showcasing what they can do aganist fellow greats.....social media has nothing to do with it you have 82 games to showcase your skills to larger audience plus playoffs.
" Now I see street ballers on Instagram with better dunks and handles than the best NBA players."
No you don't.
As far as the ASG is concerned, I think it has more to do with the players' mentality. It used to be a contest of pride: who's the best. When I was in college, we used to rush to the Rec when we heard that so and so was going to be there because we knew that they would throw down on the court. Now, it's just pure entertainment because today's players don't care about pride, but presidents (ie money). I don't think enacting different rules will help. The only thing that can change it is the players. The league should just stick to silly shooting contests and drills from now on.
@@nottelling4828why not? We used to see players with better handles and dunks in And1. At least flashier handles and dunks. I assure you I've seen better dunks on the Internet than I did the other night, except for the white boy, who funnily enough isn't an NBA player.
@@doc8013: I used to think that as well until I saw an actual NBA player in person with my own eyes. They (professionals) are on an entirely different level.
Granted, I could see where a guy could have crazy hops outside of the NBA. That's entirely believable.
@@nottelling4828 I'm not talking about talent. Those guys aren't anywhere close to the talent of an NBA player. But having flashy handles can be done by any athlete who works really hard at it. And jumping is jumping, a lot of folks outside the league have much better hops than those in the dunk contest the last several years.
Love Adam Silver? Huh? He's literally single-handedly run the league into the ground! You must be joking.
The players and owners are richer than they ever have been. They consider it a success.
It sucks because all of the players are friends. They all are familiar with each other. No one hates the other side. No one wants to embarrass the other. No one wants to say, “I’m the best, I am king of kings!” You can see a more competitive game in just about every city in America…just go to the neighborhood park. 💯🤷🏾♂️
Baseball is the only sport that is still has a half way decent All-Star game.
I love how the media and fans dont take responsibility for being obsessed with championships.Devalueing regular season awards and All Star Achievements! This is what we will get from the players.All that matters is rings right.
The score of Kobe’s last ASG was 196-173. Love Kobe, but the revisionist history we constantly do about prior generations needs to stop
Exactly
Thank you (and Kobe had 10 points)
Kobe was an injured old man by his last ASG. What a deceptive argument to make.
Exactly that was his LAST all star game, meaning his time/era was over. At this point Kobe been passed the torch. Most of the players in that game still play today. We could make the argument this was the start point of what has become the trash it is today.
That was at the end of his career. He was on the bench mostly letting the youngsters play
If you like it watch. If you dont.. dont watch.. Simple.. Its an all star game no one will try when you have real games the same week. They are trying to rest.. they only play hard in summer time games because there is time to rehab if injured.. What if you fav teams star gets hurt.. then what.. life goes on..
They don't need to retire it, just call it an "Exhibition" instead of a game
Nobody in the media got this right. A lot of us fans enjoyed watching the players smile and showboat and hangout together. Yes a competitive game would be awesome but nobody wants to see a star get hurt so who actually cares.
I feel like in the big picture, all of this is a result of the modern ring culture in the nba. Regular season games don't matter, all star games are meaningless, even some playoff games are often forgotten unless it's a closeout or a game 7, soon the perceived value of regular season mvps are gonna drop as well. It's annoying cause the nba is supposed to be entertaining as a combination of all of these things, not just rings.
Nfl is becoming the same thing as well
Rich Eisen , you love Adam Silver? The same guy who said the NBA was getting too physical back in the day and changed rules to make it into a horse race? Come on Rick, the best NBA Commissioner was the late David Stern, it changed the league from a local competition into a great international show.
The question is why should it matter. It's literally an exhibition game that bears no weight on the season. These are the best players on teams of which if they get hurt it seriously impacts the season
Well then get rid of it......I've seen infinitely better from players it did matter to
But if somebody gets hurt playing hard in this game, people will say “why are they playing hard in the all star game???”
Exactly
They somehow managed to do it from the 50s to the mid 2010s without major issues.
@@Notchibald_Johnson that’s when players started shooting the three at an incredibly efficient rate. So to offset that, people want them to play harder but that is silly because all people actually care about is the playoffs and not a meaningless all star game.
Then cancel the regualer season because players could get injured for the Playoffs. This was never a problem in the 80s/90s all star games btw.
But the regular season means something towards the ultimate goal. The all star game literally means nothing. Most of them would rather be all nba than an "all star". Just dont watch the game if its so painful to watch. Simple as that.@@thefebo8987
Imagine your star player tearing their acl in a game that doesn’t matter
People forget this
Name 1 player back in the day who was injured in the all-star game...
Imagine fans paying money to see their favorite players and they play like 5 year olds.
@@jaycurry5593Exactly. Nobody’s saying you need to be balls-out full throttle diving head first into the 3rd row after a loose ball, but at least make it a decent pickup game.
211 points thats like spitting 211 times into a fans face
I'm done with ALL OF sports they make waaaay too much money,it's F'n ridiculous the money they're making
I mean maybe only 105 times give or take. They don't go by 1's, but I see what you're saying and agree.
Right? Where does it end with baseball with no cap? They're going to price themselves out of business if they don't fix that. @@madmaxizcool4599
Karl Malone setting a pick in the All-Star Game speaks volumes. It means someone was actually guarding Kobe. It means Malone was applying fundamentals of offensive teamwork. Kobe waving him off means he actually cared.
Rick, once again you are right. It is totally meaningless and who does it serve? Give every player a mid season break. Why not?
Why can’t they just play a competitive game like they did for decades up until a few years ago. Does a 83rd game really cause the breaking point of you getting an injury?
Make it International vs USA players.
Go International.
Go vs.
You don't want that because the international players will win every time and the American fans will just get more and more angry seeing their players not caring to win
@@goodfella1401 Maybe that scenario will fuel some will to win. Look at the Ryder Cup
@@goodfella1401 or even worse: ....angry seeing their players caring, giving it everything they got, 110℅, and still lose 🤣
And if you don’t want to watch it, you don’t need to watch it. “There should be no All-Star games anymore?” Just because it’s not exactly what you want? Goddamn we’re entitled these days aren’t we?
So the thing is... No one likes it. The players don't care the media doesn't care the owners don't care and the fans don't care. That's why they are saying cancel it. The whole thing is Only being done because of tradition not cause anyone enjoys it. So yes everyone is going to say cancel it cause we all agree it should be cancelled at this rate
What is stopping them from having a 1 on 1 tournament?
Players' egos.
Noone is going to sign up to potentially get exposed. The only event that players seem to have no issue competing in seriously is the 3 point contest, and that’s probably because even “bad” scores are usually really good performances
Players r chicken
yeah, if Steph or Dame actually had to play defense 1 on 1 then we would look at them differently. @@inhop2443
This would be awesome actually but the new NBA led by player empowerment has completely destroyed this possibility.
It's not the 1980s anymore. The internet exists and social media is prevalent. People don't need an all star game on TV to watch NBA stars anymore, they can check them out whenever they want in their highlights.
I remember the days as a huge basketball fan marking the ASG on my calendar and longing for it as the biggest celebration of the year, it was something sooo special. I would plan for weeks for it (emotionally and ritually) making sure no one disturbs me, no homework to do or events to attend, warning anyone not to even contemplating of disturbing me. It was magic. Now I mark the day and always miss it only to start watching the game on Sunday (after noticing FB posts) and switching it off just before halftime; meanwhile I do other stuff while it’s on background. Now I don’t even know which city is held at till I check the logo markings on the court.
I hope they score over 400 next year.
It feels like the players are proud to be chosen, but aren’t really interested in playing the game. Like being chosen gives them an opportunity to play a game that doesn’t matter to them.
How about a 'winner stays on' mini tourney. Could be 1v1, 3v3, even full court 5v5. 'Make it, you take it', would also incentivize getting stops.
And add a winning bonus. Maybe a king of the court would be a fun event too.
NBA players should be ASHAMED of themselves!!!
This is why the most popular sport in the world doesn't have All-Star games, halftime shows or celebrity involvement. If that was a football game with football fans in attendance every player would've gotten booed out of the building or worse for disrepecting the game. The longer the NBA keeps doing this, the harder it will be for them to find new fans both domestically and especially internationally that will care about the NBA
I haven't watched the NBA All-Star game since 2018. It looks like I haven't missed much in that period.
At the end of the day, it's bigger than eliminating the All-Star game. Last night displayed everything wrong with the NBA. Nearly 170 3-pointers, combined, hoisted up; no defense, little to no effort, sheer hubris they displayed and to name the trophy after Kobe Bryant, who would roll in his grave seeing what the league has become. This is the modern NBA.
I was waiting for the “Toilets!” Drop 😂
Weak leadership of the NBA, and allowing the inmates to run the asylum. It's not just the All-Star game that has become pathetic.
It's a relic from a bygone era. The era where you only saw non-local market games 1x a week and hoped your team was in those games, but more than likely it was just a big market team like NY, Boston, LA, Chicago. The era where your local team was on cable TV. The era where your "only" exposure to non local teams was thru highlights and the ESPN cable channel. Now, with the internet and 24/7/365 streaming services, you literally have access to every player and every team every single night of the week if you want it.
The players don't care. The TV execs don't really care (TV contracts aren't getting negotiated based on the all-star game) The true losers in all this are the fans that actually pay money to see this or watch it on TV.
This is the truth. And there’s really no way to put that genie back in the bottle. Just seeing collections of players playing against each other means nothing because we’ve seen it already. There has to be something truly unique about it in order for both players and fans to care.
8:33 that is one hell of an impression 😂😂😂
Pretty sure those are sound bites from his actual clip
@@chrisk1180 I would not be surprised
Whichever conference wins, the All-Star game gets home-field advantage during the NBA finals
The issue is that there’s only two teams that will be in the finals. Would about the players that won’t make it to the finals even if they try hard?
MLB did the first all-star game in 1933. Think of the context. There was no television then and the two leagues only played against each other in the World Series so there were stars going against each other that had never faced off before. That game would have been quite a spectacle. All-Star games really don't have a reason to exist these days. Not only is every game televised but we can see highlight packages on TH-cam and all the players are on social media and are widely visible to the general public. There is less of a novelty in seeing sports star now compared to even 20 years ago. If they want to be, these guys are everywhere. You don't need a special event to see them. It makes sense that players won't really put in much an effort when the all-star game serves no real purpose and is just done out of tradition. The leagues should just not bother and just name all-stars at the end of the season. If they still need a break then just have a mid-season break.
You nailed it. Also, the MLB ASG was created to make money during The Depression, because baseball was feeling the hit like everything else. But today? Everything's available every day. All the ASG'S should be retired.
My dad stopped watching the NBA 20 years ago but follows NCAA and march madness. Now I understand why.
Just make this stuff matter in the postseason since that's ultimately the slander that is always pulled out for a player no matter what they do in the regular season. The players heard that nothing they do matters if they don't have postseason success so they now act accordingly by mostly not caring about the regular season. Make all the in season stuff somehow equal a home postseason game and players would try. Win the skills, dunk, 3pt contest? Win the Allstar game? In season tourney? Anything new that can be added? Same thing, get a play-at-home chip. Stack your chips and whichever team has more has that many more home games in a playoff series. The best players with real ambition would now make themselves available and actually try.
What I don’t understand is when they get together over the summer and play in HS gyms for free but at the All Star game while being paid they can’t put an effort for the fans. It’s because they couldn’t care less about their fans. $50 million to play basketball is a joke.
in the end, it will be shown the NFL took the right approach to the pro bowl.
it was always an exhibition game.
the NFL was right to turn the pro bowl into a laid back, fun time for the players & the fans.
nba players make so much money now, i can only see possibly 2 ways to try to keep the all star game competitive.
first, make the players who are selected to the all star game stand in front of people from a charity of their choice & pledge to those folks they're going to bring them back a huge donation by helping their team to win. to whichever teams loses, those players will then have to stand in front of the people they previously made a pledge to & tell them they let them down.
the other option perhaps would be to have all star selections pick a backup from their team's roster to play in their place. let the back ups fight for the bag.
just a couple of thoughts.
USA vs the world. That would be fun to watch and you know both teams would be going 100%
Jordan, Byrd, Magic, Kobe would never let a team score 200+ points on them
I think with the change in accessible media, some of these events should be considered legacy events.
NBA All-Star game
NHL All-Star game
The Oscars
Keep East vs West.
1.) Maintain how the 5 starters of each conf. team are selected (fan, media, player votes).
2.) Have coaches select ONLY 3 (bench) players per team.
3.) Commissioner/League chooses addl. 6 players per team, taking into account fan/coaches votes. Team size becomes 14players.
4.) Incentivize WINNING Coaching Staff only, so they actually coach.
5.) Here's the kicker -- only the (voted) starters (10), the coach selected players (6), and ONLY the remaining 8 players from the WINNING team gets to keep the All-star TAG. The others LOSE IT, like they were not named all-stars at all. So you have about half of the team (maybe) wanting to play hard, not just for bragging rights, but bec. of contract-based incentives they get for being named an all-star, which most of these guys have for sure. (Losing maybe means *chips on their shoulders for next year).
6.) Total official All-stars will (still) be 24 players (as it is now, excl. inj. replacements.)
This game is a sign of the times
How can you LOVE Adam Silver seeing what the game has become? Not just the ASG.. but the regular season games! No other sports' regular season means less to it's players. They HATE the fans! Vote with your dollars gang! Boycott these fools! How dare they ask for more money in THIS economy!! Sad..
They shouldn't be subject to ridicule? That's all they should be subject to.
I remember when the NBA was in fact watchable but now it isn’t and even All Star weekend isn’t. The game has become all threes and no defense, no variety in playstyles or differences in anyway. If you’re not a shooter you don’t get picked or even drafted and that’s a shame knowing variety is what made teams and players great but now there is none of that
Like you said, "It's a players league", so, put it to the players, What do the players want to do, Do they want to have an All Star weekend or should it be cancelled and, if we continue what are the players willing to commit to?
What about a NBA All Stars vs Euroleague All Star game?
Make steals worth 4 points and blocks worth 5. Maybe then SOME defense will played
I remember when it was Dwight Howard and Nate Robinson in the dunk contest.
I remember the duel between Zach Lavine and Aaron Gordon in that dunk contest.
Then it got very bad very quickly.
The NBA needs to do All-Star weekend after the regular season but before playoffs and have them play games or something like the NFL does
It being a "player's league" is part of the problem. The players have too much power.
They need to make the all star game like boxing title cards: center vs center, pf vs pf, sf vs sf, sg vs sg, pg vs pg. have them match up and put their egos against each other. Maybe they’ll finally play defense again if they don’t want to look worse than the guy in front of them.
Why not do a 3v3 tournament with the All Stars?
I quit watching All Star weekend 15 years ago. If the players don't want to play hard, which is semi-justified, who wants to watch.
The new 65 game rule for regular season awards means guys will never commit to this game. Imagine Luka getting hurt and not making the all NBA first team therefore losing out on the biggest contract in NBA history. It will never happen.
The nba all-star game is less competitive than offseason pick-up games. Arguably the least competitive ball these stars play in their whole lives. Something is seriously wrong
Here’s a solution…Don’t cancel the All Star weekend! Cancel the players who don’t care about all Star weekend. How can you tell which players to cancel? Look at their load management hours!
It’s really up to the players if they WANT to compete
Give the All-Star winning side (West or East) every home court advantage in the entire NBA Playoffs.
That will make guys play normal because most all-star players are on teams that will be in the playoffs.
They should play the next ASG at Rucker Park, make it about fan interaction, then watch the crowd boo mercilessly when players don't try. They game will pick up intensity real quick.
Not in the middle of winter.
🤔3 Suggestions to fix the ASG: 1. Pay them to make the game matter - money for winning the in season tournament, why not money for the ASG? 2. Add a one on one tournament and get rid of the skills comp. 3. Dunk contest, hold it Saturday w/ 3 dunks each but voting is by the fans, overnight, and winner announced Sunday. (p.s. keep the 3pt as is - best thing going)
Maybe they should make incentives for most blocks. Steals. Rebound. Ankle breaker. Best dunk.
The inconsistency with Silver has ruined basketball. Rule changes, changing the format of the all star game, adding in a stupid in season tourney, too many changes. They should’ve never changed anything. Dumb
I really don't understand the love for Adam Silver. The other commissioners like Goodell and Manfred always get criticized while that guy seems to get a free ride from the media. Silver has done nothing to grow the game of basketball. The product has gotten worse over the years and the NBA is not exactly hitting it out of the park TV ratings wise either.
HOT TAKE: I had fun watching the All Star game, I liked watching the long 3s and dunks
NBA is entertainment, culture and then competition. It's not that interesting until the playoffs and that's like a 50/50 chance of getting good ball.
The NBA may want to consider an All-Star game with athletes from other professional sports leagues (NFL, MLB, NHL...).
I’ll say the unpopular opinion - it’s absolutely a players league. Also, the employees will rarely make the company better when they get to make all the decisions. They’re so close to ruining this league and I don’t think they get it just yet.
No. Retire the slam dunk contest. It's a joke.
Get rid of the 3pt line. As soon as someone takes a 30-40 ft shot, it sends a signal to everybody that the game is not that serious. No one is guarding anybody at halfcourt.
Did guys used to get seriously hurt at the ASG in the 80s and early 90s?
😂😂😂
The All star game is just a reflection of the modern NBA. You turn on a game and its 98% drawing fouls and throwing obnoxious levels of 3s with zero inside big man game. Pro Bowl has become a joke too. Its just middle school gym class now.
I miss the late 80s and 90s ASG. It actually meant something to the players then.
NBA sucks all around. Like watching paint dry. 7’ man 2.5 Wingspan. Putting in a 10’ basket. This is a skill less game. Change the game. 1 point for a dunk. 4 points for the 3 point shot. This sport at the NBA level is terrible
Limit it to actual All-Stars as the name suggests. Only All-Stars in the dunk, 3-point and skills competition (who cares if they're not on the same roster during the regular season). Replace the game with a 3 on 3 tournament of only All-Stars, single elimination. Each player from the winning team gets 100k donated to a charity of their choice. They might actually complete that way.
it's pronounced you-ness-cue (Ionescue); Dan Patrick also couldn't pronounce her name, he kept saying "eye-oh-nes-kew" (which just goes to show he hasn't watched or heard a single moment of her career or news coverage).
NBA players played harder at the gym in NY for TH-cam than they play for national televised show! Smh
This is what happens when you pay people guaranteed money. Had this same problem at a job as an hourly server.. nobody wanted to take tables because they were already guaranteed money.
Yep there’s no urgency to work anymore because you’re already taken care of before hand .
for the NBA, they should tie the all-star game to home count advantage during the NBA Championship .
Imagine adoring Adam Silver
Well, he knows him personally, we don’t.
I honestly don't understand the love for him. Goodell and Manfred are always getting bashed while that guy seems to get a free ride from the media. Adam Silver has done nothing to grow the game of basketball. The product has gotten worse over the years and they're not exactly hitting out of the park TV ratings wise.
whats wrong with him? he actually seems pretty cool for his important position
@@chadwellington2524 I'm listening to basketball media thank their employers for not making them go to cover all-star weekend.
They shot a combined 168 3Pointer and a combined 5 Free Throws... just scrap the 3 Point Line for the All Star Game or make it 3vs3 contest
My suggestion would be to continue to pick an all star team, but have no game. It's all about prestige after all
The problem is you have a few guys that are incredibly selfish and are trying really hard to win the MVP. Get rid of the MVP award and the game will be much better.
The League should provide million dollar bonus to the players on the team if they hold the other side to 100 pts or less.
There’s no way to “fix” it. As long as the guys are having fun, it’s fine to me. Not a great watch, but logo 3s are still impressive 🤷🏾♂️
In my opinion, the common reason for most of major sports having product mediocrity problem is the lack of market competition. Like back in the 1970's the ABA was challenging the NBA as another option for pro ball, both as a player and a fan. Now when the nba is without any competition. If there was another pro league in the states that was challenging the NBA, the product would be way more competitive. Just like the 2k decline.
As a long time basketball fan, forget cancelling the All Star Game, I don't think I'd care if they cancelled the NBA at this point.
Pro Bowl is literally an actual flag football game now. Just a matter of time before this is implemented into regular season games. All the major pro sports have competition problems much worse than their all-star games. You just get to see the most extreme versions of where their games are heading in these games.
"Just a matter of time before this is implemented into regular season games" people have been chicken-littling about the nfl for decades. any slight step away from violence is seen as "going soft". the crying says more about you then it does about the nfl.
@@TDC5Weak take to just insult OP. Says a lot about you, as you say.
@@nathanbauman1579 yep, it says i'm sick and tired of people whining about "my sport isn't violent enough". not sorry if that bothers you.