Half as Interesting is WRONG about toki pona...

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  • Title► Half as Interesting is WRONG about toki pona...
    Website► ians.site/kulu...
    Description►‪@halfasinteresting‬ posted a new video called "Toki Pona: The Language You Can Learn in a Day" and since we know toki pona, this video dives into the mistakes from that video. You won't believe how many there were.
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  • @IamSamys
    @IamSamys ปีที่แล้ว +98

    0:00 120 is not the minimum word count. There *are* people who use less - although as you can imagine they're in the minority.
    0:20 I know you said "sometimes", but I'll say it anyway: You don't have to learn more than the pu words to be fluent
    0:43 Same here, this is an edge case, but "nimi mi li X" is what I use and what pu uses

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      well, there are mistakes in this video i guess, but not as much and as important as the original
      thanks :)

    • @IamSamys
      @IamSamys ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kulupunasa eh, maybe _one_ mistake that's more than understandable to make

    • @notwithouttext
      @notwithouttext ปีที่แล้ว +21

      "kulupu nasa is WRONG about toki pona..."
      coming soon

    • @dolorsitametconsectur
      @dolorsitametconsectur ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@notwithouttext make sure to get something wrong so I can make “NWT is WRONG on toki pona”

    • @andrewpinedo1883
      @andrewpinedo1883 ปีที่แล้ว

      _mi li_ implies that one is not a fluent speaker in toki pona. _li_ is typically dropped if _mi_ or _sina_ precedes it.

  • @andrewpinedo1883
    @andrewpinedo1883 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    3:03 HAI got this wrong too. I know enough about Arabic to know that Arabic script *IS* phonetic. The only thing that Arabic script and sitelen pona have in common is that they are both non-Latin scripts, which is obvious to anyone who has a functioning brain and eyes.

  • @axolotelUA
    @axolotelUA ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The best part is when kulupu nasa said "WHY IS THIS MAN SAYING LOJE LIKE LOHE? AND IJO LIKE AJO?"

  • @jasonvick6617
    @jasonvick6617 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I generally really like half as interesting, but even as an amateur toki pona speaker that video was pretty painful to watch.

  • @SgtFloofy
    @SgtFloofy ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The fact HAI called Arabic orthography pictographic is incredibly painful. Anyone who does a fucking ounce of research would know that it’s phonetic. (Ik that it’s an abjad, and doesn’t really have distinct letters for vowels*, but the point still stands
    *It sorta does but they share roles with consonants)

  • @hdixkowmskwm
    @hdixkowmskwm ปีที่แล้ว +39

    THANK YOU for making this video. I've been hoping someone from the toki pona community would address this very flawed introductory video about the language.

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you're welcome. we make other toki pona-related content too

    • @hdixkowmskwm
      @hdixkowmskwm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kulupunasa i saw! i just subscribed :)

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hdixkowmskwm thank you :D

  • @jan-Pala
    @jan-Pala ปีที่แล้ว +12

    kulupu nasa. i love this channel. but i saw the title. and was immediately like. "YOU THINK SO?" because kepeken namako keeps me up at night and lohe and ajo hurt my brain because how do you mess it up that badly

  • @eddie-roo
    @eddie-roo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    HAI/Wendover tend to get a lot of very obvious errors on their linguistics videos. Makes me wonder what kind of inaccuracies there must be in videos on topics I’m not interested in

  • @arcioko2142
    @arcioko2142 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    half as right

  • @kulupunasa
    @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +57

    you have some explaining to do, HAI. (points gun)

    • @aaaaanomaly
      @aaaaanomaly ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yeah they made way too many mistakes in this one (hopefully that *points gun* is musi taso though)

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@aaaaanomaly agreed

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      wait this is a different person

    • @andrewpinedo1883
      @andrewpinedo1883 ปีที่แล้ว

      tenpo ni la mi jo e ilo utala tawa jan Musi Kipisi

    • @gabenugget114
      @gabenugget114 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kulupunasa
      *produces ak47s*

  • @octaviuswendell5857
    @octaviuswendell5857 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Half as Interesting gets a lot of stuff wrong in his videos, one time I fought is was him questioning why we can’t build a straight train line in California (it goes over mountains) and complained the plans where to squiggly

    • @doaa7941
      @doaa7941 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAI did a video on the Californian hsr? wasn't that real life lore?

    • @serraramayfield9230
      @serraramayfield9230 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAI used to be better, why are they failing now

  • @SnoFitzroy
    @SnoFitzroy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The thing that really sucks about HAI's video is it kinda gave me a similar feeling to what HBomberguy described with Illuminaughtii: I'd seen a lot of his videos and found them, well, interesting, but seeing the toki pona video and noticing that almost everything he said was wrong, inaccurate enough to require a mention, or him not comprehending the actual basics of actually pronouncing toki pona words (Sure, it technically doesn't matter how you pronounce the words as the very limited sound inventory means it's kinda hard to say toki pona words in an ambiguous way, but "LOHE"?!?!?!? come on!!!) had me wondering...what else has he gotten this sorely wrong in his other videos? Have I been unintentionally mislead by something he made because it was about a topic I wasn't already studying? Definitely makes me think twice about basically everything he says now.

  • @daniel-marcinkowski
    @daniel-marcinkowski ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually, hai is just about bricks, but you don't know that from me! It's a secret, so don't tell anyone.

  • @NootNooter
    @NootNooter ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He absolutely butchered the language

  • @Tjthemedic
    @Tjthemedic ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice video! It's nice to see more toki pona channels. Tokitubers?

  • @Daryavahush
    @Daryavahush 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Arabic uses a non-phonetic script"??? DOES HE EVEN KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT

  • @yupekosi
    @yupekosi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it’s weird, i thought that video was way older

  • @Garfield_Minecraft
    @Garfield_Minecraft ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for making this video
    I think he doesnt really know toki pona
    ni li nimisin tan jan ni. ona li "Sini"
    nasin toki ante pi nimi "Sina" 🤣
    This is new word from this guy that's "sini"
    Alternative of "sina"

  • @Bahrta_sai
    @Bahrta_sai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The video you're talking about is in my suggested videos list below.
    mi lukin e sitelen tawa ni la, lipu linluwi JUTUPE li wile mi lukin e la sitelen tawa pi sina toki. (?)

  • @MDLC424
    @MDLC424 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really good video!

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks, we make more videos on toki pona that's *actually* accurate, so check out more of our videos!

  • @olivius8891
    @olivius8891 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    jan HAI li nasa tawa mi

  • @KingdomOfPurcal
    @KingdomOfPurcal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video

  • @dolorsitametconsectur
    @dolorsitametconsectur ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Haha funny numberth subscriber

  • @chao3948
    @chao3948 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how can a voice be a tumblr user

  • @Fensmiler
    @Fensmiler หลายเดือนก่อน

    mi kama tawa sitelen en toki pi toki pona

  • @dihydrogen
    @dihydrogen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hai also has a video in ithkuil that Isn't Very Good

  • @Renro87
    @Renro87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you sound really out of breath

    • @bloxer9563
      @bloxer9563 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol

  • @MiyuwiTV
    @MiyuwiTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sitelen tawa ni li lon. sitelen tawa ante pi jan ante li jo e ijo pi lon ala. taso, jan suli li toki tawa toki pona, la jan mute li ken kama sona tawa toki pona.

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lon, a.

    • @MiyuwiTV
      @MiyuwiTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ilo ante pi ilo toki mi li ike tawa toki pi toki pona! ona li sona ala e nimi pi toki pona!

  • @Adv3nture_
    @Adv3nture_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sini 😭

  • @raeplaysval
    @raeplaysval ปีที่แล้ว +1

    epiku kijetesantakalu

    • @Compass.the.Jackal
      @Compass.the.Jackal ปีที่แล้ว

      *kijetesantakalu epiku? I think.
      ^
      |
      mi kokosila lol

  • @BlueBetaPro
    @BlueBetaPro ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Please don't capitalize Toki Pona sentences" Why? Doesn't literally every language using Latin alphabet letters do this. Is it really a convention in Toki Pona not to? This makes no sense. Is this an actual decision the inventor made, because it seems quite silly. It reminds me more of the base 12 numbering system where symbols don't mean what you think they mean...
    "Arabic is nothing like sitelen pona" duhh... what a silly point to make, you're taking things too literal.. I guess taking things too literal is the literal point of a video explaining language, but I digress.

    • @kulupunasa
      @kulupunasa  ปีที่แล้ว +47

      1. toki pona only uses capitals for proper names, and never for the begining of sentences, this was stated in the official book
      2. this was a video correcting all the mistakes, of course we would mention *all* the mistakes, along with accidentally throwing in one along the way

    • @lipamanka
      @lipamanka ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the fuck? you're making a fool of yourself, Simulacra In The Shell. Like, research things lol it's very easy

    • @broccoliflorette1970
      @broccoliflorette1970 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      yes, it's a convention the inventor made. as for WHY you don't capitalize Toki Pona sentences, one reason is so that newcomers to the Latin script have an easier time recognizing the words as they'll all look the same in any context. also, aesthetics

    • @mskiptr
      @mskiptr ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Also, the way you use capital letters isn't uniform between natural languages either. German capitalizes _all the nouns_ for example
      (oh, and ancient Romans didn't have lowercase at all)

    • @eddie-roo
      @eddie-roo ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Writing Toki Pona is like writing Eswatini or Isixhosa instead of eSwatini and isiXhosa. Different languages have different capitalization rules.
      For example, in German you capitalize every single Noun in a Word, while in spanish demonyms and adjectivals are not capitalized.