Porsche 997.2 GT3: My First Nürburgring Laps

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  • After raving about the 996, I really wanted to give 997 a try. Luckily I did not have to wait long for that opportunity.
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    00:00 Intro/Walkaround
    01:32 Lap 1
    11:37 Lap 2
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  • @mgcharoudin
    @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Correction: the brake pads are not EBC Yellow, but Pagid Yellow.

    • @Sean_Farmer
      @Sean_Farmer ปีที่แล้ว

      Great car! It did come with Cup 2s BTW.

    • @yankeeraza631
      @yankeeraza631 ปีที่แล้ว

      🟡

    • @jyom3857
      @jyom3857 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sean_Farmer Cup 2 never existed back in 2010. Back then, it was pushed as a street car, so it didn't even come with the Cup 2's predecessor the Cup. It came with Pilot Sport 2, which was the predecessor to the Super Sport, which was the predecessor to the 4S. If the 997.2 GT3 came with Cup 2, it would have had a much faster Ring time from the factory, probably in the mid to low 7:20s. The 997.2 RS came with the Cup (1) tires and did it in 7:33.

    • @Sean_Farmer
      @Sean_Farmer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jyom3857 you're correct. I was thinking of the RS with the PS Cup tires (no cup 2s yet). Thanks!

    • @8359s
      @8359s ปีที่แล้ว

      Misha it's hard for me to infer, this or 993.2 for having fun on the track?

  • @aarrayy
    @aarrayy ปีที่แล้ว +105

    997.2 is probably my favourite gt3 porsche of all, perfect balance between good looking + driver focus
    awesome driving Misha!

  • @slothpatronus2704
    @slothpatronus2704 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The 997.2 GT3 is my attainable dream car & I've been obsessed with the Ring since I was 8. Thank you for this video.

    • @lucasfillman5965
      @lucasfillman5965 ปีที่แล้ว

      totally agree Man

    • @bimmer.joo34
      @bimmer.joo34 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same bro, hope you achieve whatever you wish for in this life, you and ur loved ones, Ameen 🤲🏻🤍😊

  • @mattheweaton4694
    @mattheweaton4694 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    997.2 GT3 is literally the sweet spot. What a noise!

    • @redline350zHR
      @redline350zHR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AND this was with the valves closed!

    • @dennisn.9583
      @dennisn.9583 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How you can tell?

    • @redline350zHR
      @redline350zHR 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dennisn.9583 he said, at one point in the video that the valves were stuck, closed in the beginning

  • @darrenprior6339
    @darrenprior6339 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What a fantastic car those 997 GT3's and RS's were. Beautiful steering and that amazing Metzger Engine. You certainly kept that blue 991 GT3 on its toes

    • @JuJu_Vega
      @JuJu_Vega ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unlike the german word for butcher (Metzger), his name was Hans Mezger, without the 't'

    • @darrenprior6339
      @darrenprior6339 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuJu_Vega Feel better now? All that bullshit for what was a spellcheck error. Now go get a girlfriend and spare me your semantics

    • @JuJu_Vega
      @JuJu_Vega ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@darrenprior6339 sorry if I made you that aggressive, it was actually only ment to be an information.

    • @dennygamble4520
      @dennygamble4520 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      992

    • @DillonShelburn
      @DillonShelburn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You missed two things actually

  • @flsupraguy
    @flsupraguy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love your videos. Keep them coming

  • @angus3963
    @angus3963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Misha, always a pleasure! (Seriously, after a long day this was the break my brain needed, exhaust notes and car talk.)

  • @694tommie
    @694tommie ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These really felt like nice easy laps with great handling and an amazing soundtrack.
    Once did a track day on Zandvoort with a couple of laps in a 997, and felt extremely quickly familiar with the car. Absolute dream to drive.

  • @UnknownUserDE
    @UnknownUserDE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What you mentioned at the second lap is really a thing which I wondered all the time - you just step in a car and can adjust your driving style to the car extremely fast. I think I would have problems with that... so big respect.
    And to the car: just such a dream.
    I grew up with the 997 as the recent Porsche model, I think that's the reason why I'm absolutely in love with them. Just beautiful cars made for drivers.

  • @nadavravid1242
    @nadavravid1242 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perhaps worth mentioning, the exhaust valves open at around 3000rpm in ‘Sport’ and at 5000rpm in with Sport mode off. In other words, peak power figures were recorded with exhaust valves definitely open. If this car’s valves were always closed, then it probably wasn’t producing the quoted factory power and torque figures during these laps…and yet, still sensational!

    • @redline350zHR
      @redline350zHR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes i was thinking the same thing

  • @mdub048
    @mdub048 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely smooth fast laps. Thoroughly enjoyable.

  • @flyinghedgehog3833
    @flyinghedgehog3833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic 997 and precise driving.thanks.

  • @TexasRiverRat31254
    @TexasRiverRat31254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful car, amazing sound and great driving!

  • @rick6738
    @rick6738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Porsche GT3's, especially the ones that up until about 2019. Everytime I come at the ring the gt3's screams throughout the eifel😍😍

  • @kineticU
    @kineticU 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s a fantastic car driven well! Enjoyed it at the end of a long hard day!

  • @phillipchandler8862
    @phillipchandler8862 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely car and great smooth laps. Porche GT cars so special.

  • @charliecharlie8621
    @charliecharlie8621 ปีที่แล้ว

    such a beautiful sound

  • @ddsgardening7437
    @ddsgardening7437 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 997 third gear has long legs ,perfect top show Misha and owner is very layed back 😎✌️

  • @matthewwain9958
    @matthewwain9958 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just sounds so good. That's a really nice cabin to be in.

  • @rrodrigo42
    @rrodrigo42 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was expecting the second lap like... Nahhhh you loved it, how can you do only one lap... Haha good to see you enjoying a great Porsche

  • @relaycampervan
    @relaycampervan ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet car, great lap.

  • @xXxH8TERxXx
    @xXxH8TERxXx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice car i really like the look of the 997 😎

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Porsche is king 👏

  • @bobgees793
    @bobgees793 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first 911. Amazing cars. Since had a 2019 C4 GTS and a '17 Turbo S but hankering after another GT3

  • @550LMS
    @550LMS ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A 997.1 GT3 Club Sport might just be the perfect 1 car garage. There's better cars out there, faster, more comfortable...whatever. But it really ticks all boxes. Not too flashy. Seriously fast in the real world without losing your license to have fun, stunning looks. Great noise.
    There's cars in the same budget I'd have over it but if we're strictly ticking boxes...yeah.
    You need a GT3 Misha!

    • @diggagt3574
      @diggagt3574 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Money no object, I'd go for a 997.2 GT3 RS, but they are more than double the price of my 997.1 Gt3 and, to be honest, it is more than enough car for me. A real joy to drive.

    • @550LMS
      @550LMS ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@diggagt3574 Each to their own of course, and I may be in the minority here but I always found the .1 997 RS a better looking car than the .2. Both utterly wonderful of course!

    • @AM-eu1yq
      @AM-eu1yq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have owned a 996 Turbo S for over 12 years…
      For my 50th I added a 997.1 GT3….which I am loving more and more each day….
      Put 250ks on it today in mixed mostly good weather, what fun.
      The experience of the engine revs climbing is something else…. Maybe the sound and the vibrations… I don’t know but it makes you laugh like a kid as the revs build.
      So glad I took the plunge into a Gt3.👍

  • @jasonsong86
    @jasonsong86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Insane lap. I would love to drive on it at least once.

  • @wally9935
    @wally9935 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Porsche of all time. Definitely my dream one.

  • @lucasfillman5965
    @lucasfillman5965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The finest flat Six Symphony. Man I love GT3s

  • @garymcmaster4627
    @garymcmaster4627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vlog Misha. I agree that your driving of this car was worth a second lap. I may have been greedy and welcomed more because it handled so good for a stock car, and it proved that a 12yr old Porsche with 66k+ kms can be as much fun to drive than a current model. Congrats to the owner and maybe you will catch up again for more enjoyable laps on the Nodshleife😄👍

  • @bobgees793
    @bobgees793 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awww how did I miss this video! 😮. My first 911 back in 2017 was a 2010 GT3 in dark metallic blue

    • @Spocklee
      @Spocklee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how much did it go for?

  • @Veyronp87
    @Veyronp87 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    997.2 GT3 is incredibly rare. they did not build many of those. beautiful car and honestly still really fast

  • @aztecfitness7782
    @aztecfitness7782 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds great

  • @muldix
    @muldix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't have enough money to buy 991.2 GT3 Touring.
    Nowadays have 997.2 C2S...
    Next year probably will buy this GT3 🙂
    This car in my eyes is getting better and better...
    Love it more than 991 GT3.

  • @CarClown
    @CarClown ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Car! Legend!

  • @paolomaldini8309
    @paolomaldini8309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m quite sur you enjoyed your lap much more than the 992 GT3 driver… analogic drive , iconic design … best combo for me

  • @JamesCairney
    @JamesCairney ปีที่แล้ว +6

    21:18 I had a crap car and it did evoke quite a lot of emotion, it was a Renault 5 and I did swear at it a lot.
    Feckin thing handled like a boat!
    I still liked it, I'm not sure what that's about to be honest. Can't call it a super car, but it's emotion, kind of

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my, I love that car.

  • @hamzasherazi9334
    @hamzasherazi9334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally got time to watch Misha's videos. Got 15 videos to watch. "Ok less gooo"

  • @AlexCapi
    @AlexCapi ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the all white look.

  • @Emil_Bucholc
    @Emil_Bucholc ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video 👍🏻

  • @bimmer.joo34
    @bimmer.joo34 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite GT3/GT2 generation of all time 😍🤍

  • @lollypop9580
    @lollypop9580 ปีที่แล้ว

    This car with good settings and 18 inch wheels. 👍👍

  • @Inazuma68
    @Inazuma68 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I am still happy that I bought my 996.2 GT3 Clubsport. In your saying it must be a good choice. I can life with that 😁😎

  • @iceb-akap77ice93
    @iceb-akap77ice93 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had to go for a cheeky 2nd lap. Very nice 2 laps. Still quite a low mileage car thou. ✌

  • @martinchapman2168
    @martinchapman2168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video

  • @1seipai
    @1seipai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's done 66000 km - respect! 🙂

  • @karlvanginderdeuren4009
    @karlvanginderdeuren4009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been contemplating for years to buy one. Currently own an exige 350 and when I have tested 997, I am always surprised by two facts.
    1. Insane long first and second gear. Too long to have fun on the road.
    2. All the power is up in the top end so you need to wring its neck. Which combined with the long gears is not always feasible. Especially on the road. Whilst a supercharged engine like the lotus has plenty of low end torque.
    However, the sounds between 7000-9000 rpm is something I have not heard in other cars except Italian exotics.
    Price of 997.2 is going to 110-120k for cars with less than 50.000km.
    That is also a market with many other cars on offer, much faster cars also given the 911 is not that light and “only” has 435hp in the gen2.
    Misha what is your opinion?

  • @kornonacob
    @kornonacob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you tried the ruf Porsches or guntherwerks ? Nice to see it

  • @VideoDude6475
    @VideoDude6475 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:16 997, 991 and 992 all in the same shot!

  • @m-powerlux2654
    @m-powerlux2654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dreamcar.

  • @jhaze918
    @jhaze918 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see him drive a 991 gt2rs

  • @RobbbyRay
    @RobbbyRay ปีที่แล้ว

    If i lived near the Nurburgring I would stay broke from track days.
    '19 b9 rs5

  • @mdub048
    @mdub048 ปีที่แล้ว

    btw - Porsche really needs to slide a regular series of loaners under your back side for regular laps.

  • @thereisnosubstitute8082
    @thereisnosubstitute8082 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you think porsche will go for a lap time before the gt3 rs release on August 17 ?

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think they already did, but idk

  • @tocsa120ls
    @tocsa120ls ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not that the blue is not pushing, he doesn't know the track... he's braking in funny places.

  • @AllIsWell_22
    @AllIsWell_22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Misha - please review a Manual Camaro ZL1/1LE the same way. Lots of track oriented Camaro 1LE fans of you here in the US.

  • @GethinJames
    @GethinJames 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With closed valves are you getting all the power?

  • @rjnation5042
    @rjnation5042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great lap in a serious car, but I've got to go watch the Spa 24hrs, Rj in Oz

  • @franzhuber7361
    @franzhuber7361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Misha loves OPPs (other persons Porsches)

  • @MrJoerg83
    @MrJoerg83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I never missed a downshift on my Cupra Born. Get on my level Misha 😇

    • @ahyaan2552
      @ahyaan2552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not much to shift in an electric car

    • @MrJoerg83
      @MrJoerg83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ahyaan2552 Yeah its basically like driving bumper cars, except you don't bump into a lot of stuff. I started to listen to a lot of audio books while scooting along highways recently. 😴

  • @velvetjones1856
    @velvetjones1856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some day for your garage.

  • @ErikB750
    @ErikB750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfection for humans isn’t reached by getting all the numbers right … it needs a soul too.
    Mission accomplished.
    To the owner: enjoy all the aspects of the car. Love your car.

  • @JDR1971
    @JDR1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fooooot cam would have been good in this. 😉

  • @bbpleg
    @bbpleg ปีที่แล้ว

    EBC yellowstuff sucks but other than that, the car is a thing of dreams!

  • @CossieGT3
    @CossieGT3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, after driving both of them, would you go for 996 or 997?

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      996 for me, for the track. 997 would be a better street car.

    • @CossieGT3
      @CossieGT3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mgcharoudinVery interesting... Well the 996 wasn't stock, right? I have to check the video too :D 997 is my favourite, but both are much more characterful and driver-focused than 991 or 992 :)

  • @sebvv5219
    @sebvv5219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it ever get boring to drive slightly different versions of the same car? Even if it's a very good car.

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't driven a 997 before

  • @marklynch1305
    @marklynch1305 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it normal to have a clutch done at 3k?

  • @e36s54
    @e36s54 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is the foot cam?

  • @jouhajohnny
    @jouhajohnny ปีที่แล้ว

    997 😩

  • @hansfranz9914
    @hansfranz9914 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:50 Why is there a delivery truck on the track?

  • @user-bc9tp6tu4b
    @user-bc9tp6tu4b ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Proof Don’t need 500hp

  • @Kortec_Racing
    @Kortec_Racing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ebc yellowstuff? over het algemeen is dat echt een enorm slecht remblok, bijzondere keuze!

  • @chromachino
    @chromachino ปีที่แล้ว

    misha, i think you loaded the wrong ghost car... ;) :D

  • @thefridgeman
    @thefridgeman ปีที่แล้ว

    0:28 actually not, the last Mezger came into the 997 GT3 RS 4.0, in 2011, almost 2 years later.

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And that is what I say immedieately after

  • @fiestaria
    @fiestaria 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it my idea or isn't Misha on it with the gt3? He seems to be exercising a lot of caution, perhaps the car doesn't inspire confidence..
    Either way, no matter how "great" the gt3 is for some, I personally couldn't live with such long ratios. That 3rd gear is taking forever to load

  • @Alienwarez567Epic
    @Alienwarez567Epic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont understand the way porsche names it models, you have a 718 cayman and a 911 but under the 911 there is like so many different models

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      911 is chassis type and other models are engine types.

    • @ollolol7879
      @ollolol7879 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every model are worth it

    • @Alienwarez567Epic
      @Alienwarez567Epic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ollolol7879 I agree but i cant afford a car like that in Denmark with the 150% import tax in denmark cars are either electric because they have no tax or VW up

    • @ollolol7879
      @ollolol7879 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alienwarez567Epic Me too in Thailand 200-300% imoort tax this car about 550k+ USD

    • @Alienwarez567Epic
      @Alienwarez567Epic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ollolol7879 wow that is insane

  • @JManIsraRu
    @JManIsraRu ปีที่แล้ว

    100-200 about 10.5 sec

  • @manualmedicinebjornhermans3542
    @manualmedicinebjornhermans3542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PLEASE compare to GT3 RS 997.2!!!!

    • @CossieGT3
      @CossieGT3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really substantially different car the RS... 15hp more, slightly lighter, more agressive rear wing and slightly more track-focused suspension. And shorter gearing, that'll probably be welcome as Porsche gearing is far from short :D

    • @manualmedicinebjornhermans3542
      @manualmedicinebjornhermans3542 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CossieGT3 have you driven them back to back and compared?
      Driven any of them?

    • @CossieGT3
      @CossieGT3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@manualmedicinebjornhermans3542 Hah definitely not, but I read a lot of contemporary reviews (on the road and on the track) as the 997 RS is one of my favourite cars ever, so I just tell what I know :) Back to back comparison is always best, that's for sure ;)

    • @Fabsan84
      @Fabsan84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RS is a lot more raw and playing!

    • @AM-eu1yq
      @AM-eu1yq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fabsan84I wonder for fast road use is the standard 997.1 gt3 the sweet spot when you consider price, the rs so much more expensive and people seem worried to put Ks on them.
      For me the gt3 is fantastic & I don’t feel I’m missing much apart from
      A $100k by not having an rs.
      Have fun guys and drive em.

  • @Corsa15DT
    @Corsa15DT ปีที่แล้ว

    you took it much too easy this time..does it feel much better than the 996 gt3?

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's more GT, less raw than 996 is.

  • @fastdays_1
    @fastdays_1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these Mk2 more reliable than the 997 GT3 Mk1? I've heard not the best things about 997 GT3s but if anyone has more insights in this please comment...

  • @andrewbartle7904
    @andrewbartle7904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That car is so so nice. The End. Thanks. Bye.

  • @jyom3857
    @jyom3857 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, what do you like better Misha? 996 or 997 GT3? 😁

  • @Mr.McCarthyism
    @Mr.McCarthyism ปีที่แล้ว

    Gg

  • @micheltebraake7915
    @micheltebraake7915 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dat ziet er verslavend uit: de twijfel over het tweede rondje, ja, toch maar doen.

  • @miguelangelrodriguez3829
    @miguelangelrodriguez3829 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏👏🤗🤗🤗😍😍😍

  • @cs2294
    @cs2294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So sad to see EBC brake pads in there. At least put something decent in

    • @mgcharoudin
      @mgcharoudin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correction: they are Pagid

    • @cs2294
      @cs2294 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mgcharoudin Word

  • @dylanrc2994
    @dylanrc2994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But I’m living on SoCal

  • @dylanrc2994
    @dylanrc2994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Misha I’m Roma from Ukraine

  • @mittysmalls
    @mittysmalls ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THE WORLD IS FLAT 😍

    • @delboy6384
      @delboy6384 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kind of obvious but thanks for your opinion

    • @mittysmalls
      @mittysmalls ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or is it FLACHT 🤔

    • @Inazuma68
      @Inazuma68 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good one 👍

    • @marksanders2587
      @marksanders2587 ปีที่แล้ว

      And your brain is smooth