Norfolk Broads Hire Boats - The True Cost To Other Boaters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2015
- The speaker is discussing their concerns about the damage caused by hire boats to private boats on the Broads. They acknowledge that hire boats are a wonderful idea and create great memories for holiday-goers, but they believe that hire boat companies are not taking responsibility for their craft and are passing on conditions to private boat owners that could be fatal. They express three main concerns: there are too many hire boats, the hire boats are too big for the Broads, and people renting the boats do not receive enough instruction. They share their personal experiences of being damaged by hire boats and dealing with the companies for compensation. They also mention another incident where a private boat was physically rammed by a hire boat, and express frustration that the people driving the hire boat did not stop. They argue that private boat owners are facing unfair conditions and are seeing a lot of damage. They state that it has reached a point where leaving a private boat unattended on a public mooring is risky. They plan to make a video to raise awareness and support other boat owners in pursuing compensation from hire boat companies. They propose that hire boats should be limited to a certain size and that larger boats should require a professional skipper. They invite others to share their experiences and opinions on the matter. #Norfolk #Broads
I agree totally hire boats are a pain. as a private boat owner it' can be no fun I'm happy you are talking about this !
Hire boats bring a welcome amount of revenue and employment to the area, and while I agree SOME renters are less than careful or considerate the same applies to some owners that feel they own the waterways I speak from experience as a renter of large size hireboats for the last six years the broads are for everyone! and its not just renters in hireboats that are a pain!
@@welshboi1453 Well unfortunately in 5 and a half years they are the only boats that have hit my boats, my family boats, my friend's boats all of which were damaged and never in 100% of the time have any boat stopped. The problem stems from something called Collision Damage Waiver and that is really what separates hirers from private boaters and nothing more.
@@SailingHighSeas Then sadly you must have been very unlucky, as I have responded to you previously on this matter not all hire boat operators are as careful as they should be or as courteous, but the same applies to private boat owners who seem to feel they own the Norfolk Broads waterways and treat hire boaters with disdain and I do speak from personal experience! I have rented large 45ft cruisers for the last 10 years and so far never caused any damage to anyone,the exception being the private owner who broadsided us at oulton yacht station while we were moored,the Norfolk broads are for ALL boaters and WE ALL make mistakes Happy sailing!
@@welshboi1453 You are quite correct that every person makes mistakes, there is no dispute there. The point being made here is not that every hire boater is a problem, that would be ridiculous.
The point being made is the stellar level of damage that hire boats do on the Norfolk Broads and through the implementation of a Collison Damage Waiver see that as a reason to not take responsibility for damaging boats and fleeing the scene. The level of impacts to private boats is enormous, it goes on day after day, week after week with impunity. It is more a fight for survival for private boaters, it really is quite disgraceful what we have to put up with.
The system is flawed beyond description.
What was the name of the private boat that hit you?
@@SailingHighSeas I am not sure if the damage waiver is to blame, I do believe that an exchange of names etc in the event of damage is an absolute must but it seems to be a general lack of respect that sadly seems missing The vessel that hit us was named INCONNU we did report it to the boatyard as they did not seem concerned enough to stop
Funny ;been hiring boats on the broads for 30 + years .There are less hire boats than 30 years ago ;
My main issue is that a high percentage of private boats seem to ignore speed limits ;ignore the 24 hour free mooring rule and i have taken this up with the Broads Authority .you are correct regarding some hire boat skippers ;but i have witnessed this with private boats .
Of course hire boats never speed, do they?
Having been on he broads a fair few times on yachts, I can understand your frustration. It should be up to the hire companies to find out if people have had previous experience in handling boats perhaps before the boat is booked and to make it compulsory to ensure at least one adult is capable of the most basic manoeuvre, perhaps a short test and maybe a database of previous visits so that people who re-visit can build a reputation of not having accidents so that the training can be concentrated on the first timers. I would imagine all hire boats or companies are insured, so they should cough up quickly in the event of an accident.
I agree with everything you have said. I am having my second holiday soon on the broads, the last time I had a small boat but was surprised at the lack of tuition before setting off. My wife was also concerned about this. You have a legitimate complaint but the people hiring the boats are putting profit before safety.
nice one and welcome back "serious hair cut" can you do a catch up on your boat and projects, Cheers T.J.
SAIL CANCER I have been doing massive amounts of refitting and will have heating going in soon. I've a lot of videos to edit which I will be doing shortly.
Very interesting video, we have been hiring now for six years and although our first trip we had around half an hours tuition , it was not until we actually went on our way we learnt to handle the boat mooring etc, i think half the problem is people new to boating panic instead of enjoying a slow cruise some are hell bent on speeding , and not showing any respect to other boat users . On our last trip we were actually hit whilst moored up sad to say by a beautiful wooden crusier ,no apology just smiling at us like we were in the wrong . On another subject we were sitting outside the pub in wroxham when these total idiots moored up with a bbq going full pelt on the back of their boat !!!! dangerous to say the least ,we did report this but seems its common practice for people to act in this way . we hope to own our own vessel in the future , lets hope we get shown the same respect as we always do . Keep up the good work and get the msg out there .
You can get bbq's that clamp to the pushpit that use the disposable ones in supermarkets, thoroughly recommended once you have your own boat, especially if it's a sea going vessel. You can anchor up, catch fish, cook and plate up the freshest fish you'll ever taste.
Its a strange mix for sure, i grew up there, learnt to sail on the broads back in the 70s-80s, and we come back for holidays most years. ive seen a massive change since my childhood, and im going to say for the better, conservation/management etc.in general peoples behaviour has improved, but with vastly more craft, incidents increase, law of averages. That said i feel your pain having boats of my own scuffed/ scratched by careless bellends, some of us take pride in boathandling, very satisfying putting 40ft into 42ft gap without bumps or bad words, and yes the unqualified/inexperienced should have at least one hour handling tuition.
I feel the collision damage waiver policy holds the source of such problems. Firstly, other customers who don't damage boats are being charged for those that do, in addition, those that hit other boats who are causing damage are not held individually responsible. As long as boat hirers are offered a Collision Dame Waiver policy and are not getting enough tuition, then the industry will remain in its deeply flawed state.....at its core.
I agree with you. I live onboard my boat on the Broads and I will only moor in certain places during the summer months for fear of being crashed into. It's very frustrating. I should be able to safely use all of the moorings.
I had a bow fender ripped off only yesterday and they fled.
Morons. Where did this happen?
Sutton
Yes I agree, I have only been to the Broads a couple of times hiring the blue and white simple boats and the latest travel is the only one I can remember and when me and my dad turned up the bloke came out of the hire shed bit he said choose a boat I selected a 15ft 4 person boat so nothing huge and indeed on some parts even this was a little large (or so it seemed) and after choosing a boat he said can you swim he gave us life jackets said here's the speed control and gear control said keep to the right give way to bigger boats and sailing and rowing boats. then we were left to our own devices.
It's all about the money plus you don't just give way to big boats, it all depends on the situation.
i agree what you are saying about the time people are given when i first ever come up to the broads on holiday i never had any at all the bloke just let us take the boat lucky enough im a skipper back in cornwal and been around boat my whole life. i think you should have a min of RYA power boat level 2 to be able to have a hire boat
They're too big in many cases.
@@SailingHighSeas I agree Miles some of them are a stupid size for people who have no experience what so ever. When I come up twice a year we go with broom I find there are less muppets on the south side. I still think a requirement should be a RYA power boat level 2 covers you up to 36ft which is plenty any thing over that you should have a day skipper's licence. When you was taking about you can't even leave you boat alone I can see what your saying the hire boats we have are very expensive from broom. People Moore up next to you give you a bump once or twice and don't even say sorry I think if they made customers pay it they would be more careful and have more respect for other boat user's
How did you come to live on the broads? I guess that it was a holiday destination that you liked and thought would be a great place to live like most liveaboards
I just enjoyed the boat so much that I stayed. The magic has gone now sadly. This place has become a bad joke and dangerous one
having had my own boat on the broads for 20 yrs, I agree with every word you say, having been damaged by hire boats over the years, my last one was at reedham, hire boat coming into moor behind me with the tide, instead of going past me and turning round, then coming into moor against the tide. he paniced and turned out and took my stern corner off, then shot off down then river, luckly I managed to getthe name of the boat and number, and phoned the boatyard straight away and informed them of what had happened, was told to bring my boat upto richardsons and they would repair it, I told the chap, as it was my last day,due home the next day, I would get my boatyard to estimate the damage and be in contact with you , and would this be acceptable to my surprise after a long discussion he agreed. like you said not enough tuition is given to them.
+geoffrey hunt Richardsons appear to be very good but it's the fact that the hirer attempted to run. You dare not leave your boat unattended.
+High Seas - Living On A Boat Vlog one soon learns to keep away from hire boats, what we usually do most of the time was to moor with the mud weight and travel by dinghy to the local pub, and if we are moored with hire boats, we stay with the boat and have a few drinks on board,,,, like I said earlier one soon learns
Well documented mate! Most of them have No or very little respect for privately owned vessels.
It's crazy
It is interesting seeing so many boats covered all around with fenders. I've not seen that anywhere else. Clearly there are a lot of people in the area who are not in control of their boats. Meeting one's financial responsibility for causing damage is the key to correcting the situation, in my opinion, and that should include compensation for the inconvenience to the injured party.
Oh yes you need fenders.Lots of them.
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+Derek Tweedie Do you have the link please?
+High Seas - Liveaboard Vlog Sure thing..there are 2 that i use
facebook.com/groups/lovethenorfolkbroads/
And
facebook.com/groups/359822087517479/
+Derek Tweedie Thanks
I totally agree , I lived on my own boat for 4 years on the broads and in the height of the season was smacked many times by hire boats all the time , the hirers were just horrible as it affects their insurance
Drunk people in charge of a dangerous weapon
I changed and went to the thames , non tidal and found it was far far better
When me and my family went to horizon craft we got about 40 mins of training!
Firstly, can I ask how old you are and secondly what did they show you in training? Thanks
i am 12 they showed us all of the features on the boat, how to moor and how to control the boat they showed me, my mum and my dad how to it so we all knew!
I live locally to the Broads and have used a number of boats both privately owned and hire craft. In either case I am careful not to hit other boats or the banks etc etc. I have previously hired a 45ft boat and can see how it might be a handful to someone who had never used a boat before, certainly the boats can be very wilful in strong cross winds. My wife and I enjoy the boats, and are seriously considering getting one of our own. It will definitely be fibreglass, and probably an ex hire craft. From your experiences it sounds like most of the hire companies try to deal with damage to other peoples craft as best they can, certainly it sounds as though it is more of a swift process than if you were to get hit by a privately owned craft.
as a frequent hirer I think the bigger posher boats should be hired to people who have had previous experience with the same boatyard they are hiring from....back in march just before easter i witnessed a hireboat leaving ranworth staithe hitting the hireboat moored next to it leaving a lovely black mark on the hull of the moored boat which looked like it was out on its first hire since being cleaned and possibly repainted during the close season
+dave birchOver Easter weekend I left my boat for two hours at Wayford bridge. On my return I immediately noticed the ladder had been knocked off the starboard side and dragged down the side of the boat. Whilst standing there stunned and horrified, a family sitting on a private boat very kindly told me that a Herbert Woods boat had repeatedly ploughed into the side of me, whilst no crew attempted to fender off and had then driven off. I contacted Herbert Woods and chased them up a week later who were prepared to as they put it, inspect my craft but by this time I was down the south broads and just didn't need the hassle, so I fixed it myself. Accidents happen, of course they do but it's running off that angers me. All hire boats should have bow and stern cameras that record their travels.I don't blame the hirers, it's the companies as they just don't give a shit.
Great Video! I may only be 18 and don't own a boat just yet. But it is certainly a dream to also get involved with a yacht club in Norfolk. As a family we take a boat out for a week once a year. I've noticed the stupid people that clearly have no clue what their doing especially when it comes to either mooring or passing a sailing boat. The countless close call that I've seen has been far to many and soon someone will get seriously injured. All boats should be fitting with Camera Recorders (this should be ESSENTIAL for all hire boats) just like cars nowadays then there will be no questioning if something was to happen.
Keep updates on this channel, really good content!
Nick
Very well said and I couldn't agree more.
The amount of hit and run collisions with hire boats is far beyond acceptable. Some folks are left with staggering levels of damage. Windows put in, rigging screws snapped off and that takes some force, rubbing strips ripped out and of course the obligatory scratches down the side.
Rental vehicles are always a problem, Last summer my friends son and his buddies rented a C-class motor home . He had just got his drivers license 3 months earlier and is allowed to drive a 30 foot truck
Unfortunately a small percentage of hirers can give a very bad impression and in the case of damage I fully agree with you that at a minimum exchange of details to resolve the problem should take place, However as a renter of 44ft hire boats namely Aqualight,Limelight, and Beam of light three times, I can only say that Herbert Woods instruction was thorough and lengthy, did I make mistakes? of course ! though luckily I have never damaged another boat we all learn by experience and I would add that unfortunately there seems to be an equal amount of private boat owners who would also benefit from a lesson in courtesy namely the owner of the large flybridge cruiser that passed us at full power less than 10feet away on breydon water the wash pushed us into the channel marker post or the owner who hit us while we were moored at reedham or the yachtsman who hit three boats at st bennets while tacking It is not my intention to minimise your experiences but hopefully to show there are good and bad among both Hirers and owners, The rental boat fleets bring a tremendous amount of employment and economic benefit to the area Happy Sailing
There are too many boats on the broads....period. Private and hire.
It has been turned into a circus (Disneyland on water). The Hire companies are partly to blame with too large fleets (little handover time as a result), and building vessels with fly bridges etc. which are too big to fit under Wroxham/Ludham/Potter Heigham bridged on the northern broads, which has the effect of overcrowding these waters by concentrating them into half the available waters
Private owners are also aggravating the situation by using (in many cases) sea-going boats, and those with beautiful classic craft worth so much money that they will inevitably be precious about any scrapes and knocks.
Then throw into the mix that people today don't give a damn about anyone else's property (witness car park damage), and whose first thought after an accident is to run away and deny all responsibility.
All in all, not a happy co-habitation situation.
I can agree if some points you make I have a freeman 22 not on the broads but me and my wife hired a 27 foot boat on the broads but I did see some unacceptable boating skills I understand your upset and I would feel the same if someone hit my boat and I do think more training is needed before people are let lose with big boats that can do with a lot more training as you can see from my post I started small with my freemans but I can see your concerns as I has seen very poor boating skills from hire craft
I received damage from a Richardsons boat at the moorings in Acle amounting to over £1500. i must say when i contacted Richardsons they were more than helpfull. they coundn't do the repairs as our boat was too big to get up the River Ant so Richardsons contacted Brooms at Brundall to do the work and pay them direct. they couldn't be more helpfull. we must give help to the hire boats, everyone deserves to try boating and we all learn every day, boat owners that think they know it all are idiots and there are plenty of them. i have over 800 sea hours and thousand's of river hours but i still learn every day.
How big is your boat exactly that won't get up the River Ant?
Air draft is 12 feet, cant get under Ludham Bridge.
Good to have you back dude; not so good to hear about the issues surrounding lack of reasonable instruction from hire boat companies. It is a bit like the wild west out there sometimes....esp during the peak months. I'm sure the companies need to be more responsible. They rely too much on expecting/hoping people will have looked into boat handling, beforehand, possibly. The boats do have a manual onboard which. for eg, inform you on the basics for mooring up; and how the tide and wind affect this etc. But if half the people hiring don't take it seriously enough then it's pointless having the instructions written down and printed for you.
Oh and we've dealt with Barnes Brinkcraft.......and, yes, one the guy's at the top is a bit of a tyrant. Sad really
I mostly agree, but as far as the *quantity* of boats goes, I would say there are fewer boats than say 30-40 years ago
Too many hirers seem to think its fine to hit other boats and just leave. I was hit by a day boat the other week on Horning staithe, they ramed me stright up my stern when leaving the mooring behind me. Thank god it was a day boat and not one the over sized 40 odd foot jobbies! Although having said that we have been hit and damaged by these too in the past. Some yards seem better than other when it comes to taking resposibilty for the actions of there customers. I do sometimes wonder what happens in these hand overs these days and if the crew even listen to what they are being told. Afther all would you bump into and £80,000+ car and just drive off?
Richardsons give a very thorough training session on handover of the boat if its your first time. I do agree that some hire boaters are idiots and don't abide to the rules of the river though. Mind you I have seen many private boats doing some pretty idiotic stuff too so its not fair to aim your frustration just at hire boats old chap. Apart from the day boats the biggest culprits I've seen for speeding have been in private boats. I do think there are far too many boats on the broads and would agree that 40 footers are just not needed.
Yup too many boats I rent every year & plan to buy a boat sometime but in the summer I don't ever go there & it's just because of the sheer number of boats out there it's the big companies with 50 plus boats that are just making more & more every year I get emails look at our new range of boats but none of these plastic boats ever die so surely there should be a limit on how many boats an individual company can have.
I'm going next week to help a friend with (broad ambition) for its winter maintenance I'm hoping it's going to be quiet there...
I see B.A. about quite a bit. The hire boat companies have well in excess of 50 boats, in fact some have 7,8,9 times a s many as that.
Sailing High Seas
Just back it was nice & quiet in wroxham Helping broad ambition on her winter works I never ever go to the broads in summer what a shame a place I love I can only go in winter because it's soooo full of boats.
While there I got an email Barnes brink craft have bought out another boatyard (9more boats) & in January alone they completed 2 more boats & a whole load of holiday houses....
Plastic boats never die & wooden ones are becoming special so not made or thrown away lightly so if Barnes brinkcraft. Keep it up we can all expect to drive up the river just lined with boats no sight of banks just private moorings because money went into pockets & moorings spread further & further I actually like Barnes brinkcraft they have always been nice to me but it's a tide I don't like & I wish I could rent privately to encourage the local boats not the massive tesco type river fillers that make summer an impossibility.
Anyway I'm a London gas engineer I fitted toilets & painted the hull varnished basically laboured outside my normal job skill set but it was fun on broad ambition just learning & working without stress (free work of course) they seemed happy with my efforts.
I'm happy to learn more (not changing job though) but if anyone needs a bit of help I'm actually quite happy to bring my skills & open mind to the boatyard & be shown how to do things...it doesn't feel like work if your just helping out on a project in a nice place like norfalk.
I think they bought Royalls as I met a chap recently who had bought an old hire boat from them. The winter is a fantastic time and surely not suited to open sailing boats but with the right equipped craft you have 125 miles plus of serenity to enjoy without the perpetual fear and anxiety of getting a bash from a 45 foot hired vessel. Many folks stay away in August and quite frankly I do not blame them. It has always amazed and baffled me why so few people come out in the winter a lot of these boats have heating and all the creature comforts and the opportunity is ignored by so many. This winter has proven to be an icy one and with the current media attention being focused on plastic pollution in the water it concerns me from an environmental perspective as now the bins have gone I for one can clearly see rubbish in many, many locations from rubbish bags discarded in the thick bushes of summer to the endless trail of bottles and cans floating all down the waterways. This is after one year and if this nonsense is not rectified I would estimate that within 2/3 years the Broads will have so much rubbish in it that no one will want to come and see it. Sounds a little drastic some might say but I have spent the winter here boating and there is a problem with waste already.
Anthony Parker
Why would they have to permit more boatyards...there should be a limit to how many boats a company or individuals linked to companies of different names but ultimately owned by them can have...
Broads authority with local councils can limit building projects effecting the broads like adding marinas.
Boat licensing could get more expensive as more boats are owned by an organisation so it becomes less profitable to have more than 30 boats.
We're talking about millionaires with 50 plus boats just adding & adding....you can't moor in there boatyards there double moored full of there own boats..
It's also very hard for smaller companies to compete with major boatyards it's the old tesco vs corner shop situation where money talks & councils / broads authority don't care if £££ is involved & going in the right pockets.
They are steering to Less mornings to maintain but licensing for hire boats increases.
Maybe smaller people should get put first on the hire craft licensing & massive boat yards get less permissions for new hire boats....although I suspect that may kill off cheaper old boats maintained by big yards & make holidays more expensive.
I'm still sticking to late season visits...
so this guy has never had a first time on a boat and has never experienced a condition where he has Bumped another boat? ," holier than thou because i'm an owner not a hirer"!
+bob caracciolo If I bump another craft, I would follow the exact procedure as if I driven into someone's car in a car park.
I would record the incident and exchange details.
The hire boats of the Broads smash into your boat on a regular basis, damage it and then do a runner.
Hardly sportsman like isn't it?
i apologise if i came across as rude , but the way you had said about hirers bumping other craft came across as though you had never done the same .
Private hire boats contribute a lot of money to the broads not just by hiring but the money and business which is put into locals.
I've seen a lot of boat yards close down over the many years me and my family have witnessed
The broads are for everyone and holiday makers spend more money than private owners.
You don't see many private boats outside public houses?
With out private hire the broads would not be the same today.
There are a lot of people who would be out of work and rely on the boating busines
You don't need a licence to pilot a boat just commen sense and watch videos on you tube or just watch the guides made by the boating company's
They do lay down rules to stop idiots just jumping on any old boat and give you a lesson to see if your cape able for as long as you want.
All phone numbers are there if you have any issues.
You have accidents where ever you go its part of
Iife and 4mph + is safe enough for most people using the broads.
Speed boat licence.....haha
Yesterday at Sutton Staithe, a huge hire boat attempted to disembark and navigate away from the mooring. Despite multiple people on board, no one came outside to help the boat get away from the mooring heading. The chap driving decided to it was appropriate to brush up against the small craft in front of him. In doing so he caught his fender on the outboard well of the much smaller boat and crushed it against the mooring which such force that we could all hear the smaller boat's hull creaking and splintering as he literally began to crush it.
Despite people shouting at him to stop, he proceeded to accelerate as fast as he could to the point that the boat he was damaging was physically pushed about 18 inches up out of the water.
Multiple people stood in shock and the driver quite literally said nothing and fled the scene.
This is something I see on a very regular basis.
In addition there was a dog on the smaller boat which was terrified.
hiring for over 10 years. started with a 29foot broom cruiser on the shannon in ireland, and ive worked my way up too 40+ft, getting a 38ft and it ill be my first time having thrusters on the boat im getting, generally seen them as lazy, ive seen some stupid retards though running aground etc, private boaters in Ireland i found are fairly friendly, but i think you cant just be given a 40ft plus boat on your first time, you need to build up a bit of skill, anyone generally interested in boating wouldn't mind, it would put the wankers right off
Firstly I must admit i'm one of those despicable hire boat people who come to the broads once a year, & spend lots of money at the local shops,pubs & hire boat company's which employ local people. I agree with a lot of what you are saying but we aren't all bad! I know if your boats get damaged it must be annoying & I do think the boat hire company's should do more to compensate you without making a fuss about it, & if I were to damage a private or hire boat I would stop, apologise and exchange details if necessary. BUT it really annoy's me when I read some of the comments on here from private boat owners who think they are all so perfect. This year I have witnessed private boat owners blatantly going well above the speed limit & being complete idiots, someone made a comment on here about hire boaters not knowing how to pass a sailing boat, I saw a sailing boat have a very near miss with a hire boat & everyone else who witnessed it agreed the sailing boat was 100% at fault. When a sail boat is "tacking" are they not meant to point as to which side they want you to pass? I had a total of four boats tacking in front of me while I was there & only one of them gave me a signal. There are decent hire boat & private boaters, but unfortunately there are also idiots on both sides, it's the same in all walks of life. When I hire a boat I pay a damage waiver, it's not refundable even if I don't do any damage, does anyone know what happens to this money? surely the hire company's must therefore have money in a pot they can use to cover fixing damage to your boat. Not surprised you had a problem with Brinks, I've heard certain people there have an attitude problem, so I wont use them.
You have raised an interesting point there with regards to the collision damage waiver. You see with hire cars, it was optional and I wonder if it is the same with hire boats. The reason being, if all had to pay the collision damage waiver then there would be no reluctance for people not to leave their contact details when they smash into a boat, which incidentally is actually a navigational byelaw.
If you scroll through the comments you will see one classy lady left a comment which basically said,'F**** C***' and when you consider that is in response to a private owner making a valid observation then it really does reflect the attitudes of some people..
Regarding the collision damage waiver, I've only been on the Broads twice, last year and this year, & both times I have hired from Richardsons as I find them to be a very good company, the damage waiver is not optional with them, you have to pay it, it's part of the total rental fee. I don't know if it's the same with other company's though. So I do wonder if people think that as they have paid a cdw fee if they hit your boat they have the attitude of "sort it out with the hire company mate not me" If I remember rightly on the Richardsons booking form it's called a damage waiver fee, not "collision" damage, so maybe it just covers you if you cause damage to their boat somehow, but not if you damage someone else's boat, I don't really know. But I do know it's not refundable even if you return the boat in pristine condition! As for that erm...lady? who left that comment, unfortunately you get those sort of people everywhere, i'm sure she would have a different attitude if someone smashed into her car & just drove off...
+JOFFO23 Well said.
I fully agree with you. Flipping nightmare for you and incompetent people who hire
Both hire and private boats are a pain in the back side. I live and fish in Norfolk on the broads and in my experience the private owners think they own the broads. I've had my line snapped by more private boats than hire boats. Maybe you all need some sort of training. It's not fair to say there shouldn't be any hire boats on the broads because it's what brings the tourists in and boosts the local economy. There is 300sq km of waterways so plenty for every one.
+Tin Town How was it that your fishing line got snapped?
Sailing High Seas it usually gets snapped off by boats that come so close to the bank I have no time to react and either dip my rod so the boat sails over or I cannot get my line out the water quick enough. It gets rapped around the propeller it either snaps at that point or I have to cut it. Where i fish is plenty wide enough for boats to avoid anglers and there are proper fishing stages so not like I'm fishing where I shouldn't be. For example I was fishing at st benets Abbey and a bout came alone and wiped out around 5 people's line it was no more than 4 feet from the bank. This is why I think a good bit of training should be compulsory.
Broad's byelaws stipulate that anglers must keep the navigation area clear for vessels.
Byelaw 29 states, "(3) Any person fishing from a boat or the bank shall show
reasonable consideration to any other person using the
navigation area and shall ensure that his rod or line does not
obstruct the passage of a vessel along a channel."
Therefore boats do not need to avoid fishing lines, the lines are the responsibility of the anglers and it is their responsibility to keep the fishing lines clear of passing boats. There is no justification for claiming that boats are too near to the bank, it is the navigation area. It is not possible for a skipper of a vessel to see a fishing line only millimetres thick and partly submerged in water, however, an angler can see and hear an approaching vessel. If you need any clarification for this, it is as stated in the byelaws pertaining to fishing in these waterways.
Claiming you have no time to react is ridiculous as boats can only do 4 to 6 miles per hour which is a fast walking speed, many have noisey diesel engines or highly visible masts, some boats up to 45 feet in length. In my own experience, many rods are left unattended, fisherman are not looking or facing the oncoming vessels and quite simply on occasions don't have the inclination to move their lines out of the way.
I can't see why we can't all get a long it has always appeared to me that a lot of private boat owners appear stuck up and don't want to help others when morning
+Darren Mace Where is this video posted please?
youtube mate
Well see today people hit your car and drive i was left £40k insurance claim after 4x4 reversed into my car and it rear mounted spare caved rear on my 5 day old car . As it a new car they do not repair the replace but thats the way a lot of people are today.
Its a bit rich to tar all hirers with same brush. I have seen many private boaters clearly act in a completely irresponsible manner, particularly on the Bure heading up to Horning - speeding, overtaking on the wrong side of the river, sometime 3 or 4 abreast and virtually forcing on coming boats to take evasive action - not to mention nearly swamping kayakers and small day boats. Not all privateers are experts at mooring either and I have been the victim of being hit by one whilst moored and minding my own business without any apology or enquiry about any damage. Remember that the hire trade provides most of the businesses around the broads with most of their income and are vital to the local economy. I can imagine you are one that will hurl abuse at someone who makes a mistake and not offer to help or assist.
No, I only hurl abuse when a hire boat smashes into the side of my boat and does a runner. Your comment about private boat owners going along the river three or four abreast causing people to take evasive action is a joke...but it was funny.
The broads are there for every one not just the wealthy,! I pay £1000 per week for 1 week which helps maintain the broads.
It's all about trying to turn the broads into a rich mans playground.
43 years I have bin coming here
It costs VERY much more to own a boat for a season what with insurance, tolls, maintenance, depreciation etc.. All that this video is saying is that there should be more care taken, and not just by hirers. Personally, I think that anybody using a boat above, say 25ft should have to have some certificate of competence such as an RYA Powerboat Level 2 before being allowed to navigate any waterway be it inland or coastal.
your beard is malting
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it sounds like a nightmare get out to sea go to the Mediterranean much better
my boat adventures I am. Off to France next April and down through canals.
Sounds like a great trip :)