I don't recall whose vid it was, but someone did a tutorial on the Green Stuff World metall pigments, and instead of regular medium, he used Vallejo Metal Varnish, the brilliant version. That was a gamechanger for me in terms of true metal gold.
Your advertising worked. I didn't end up buying anything, but I checked them out. They probably can't because of IP rights, but if they were able to do figures of Brom's magic cards from the 90s they could just have all my money. Also, I prefer .stls
I've always heard that the base coat can really affect how vibrant a gold layer will be. Can you do a similar video with your top three colors over the top of different colored base coats (say grey, white, and red) to see how the base coat effects the final look?
Came here to make a similar comment. Not all metallics are made to be painted over black. But I would also say that using only the top three is a bad idea because these paints already are proven to be good with black. It’s likely not worth making another video I would like to see zenith primed minis and spoons if you do another test like this.
True as that might be, it would be an unbais test. Doing them all over the same base coat gives it a, well.... baseline. Honestly I think the GSW pigment should be disqualified, because its not a paint its a pigment.
I'm impressed that Citadel managed to come out so well. I think I'm going to get some, it was probably my favourite in terms of what I want my gold color to look like. I'm not surprised that Army Painter came in near the end. It's a really good paint for the price usually, but you get what you pay for. Discount wares for discount price. My biggest beef with Army Painter has been the inconsistency of the quality. Some tubes will be amazing to work with, others will be a total nightmare.
@@NikoMoraKamu Yeah, it looks UGLY. Maybe it's nice paint, but gold, it isn't, and the testers who gave it high score must be blind. Weathered bronze, sure, but gold? Wot?
Honestly best looking gold I've seen so far is Vallejo model color Bronze. Yeah it's a bit funny how "bronze" is the best gold but it really is just incredible. To my eye at least it registers far more as a gold that has been forged into armor than any of the gold paints do.
@@jpf338 Well I simply apply it with a brush over primer,it's actually insane how well it covers everything,straight up just one thin coat is all you need. As for the latter question I highlight it by just doing some color mixing,so you know adding some shades of green and purple to it as glazes and then for the shadows I just mix the bronze paint with bit of black,any black will do but I use Kimera kolors for that. If you're not a fan of manually painting your shadows or you're painting many models at the same time you could just use a wash and it would be fine.
@@saltybob3711 I never have any problems with may be your batch came bad or something? I mean the color is not the one most likes, but never read on someone having trouble applaying it.
I love the AK interactive gold. It’s more of a rub and buff than a “paint” I also find the GW paint to red for my taste but I will be looking at the others as I’ve been on the look out for a good gold for an age. Thank you 👍🏻
@@puntedagain398 yes the metal colour gold and the copper should be mixed with one another to get the best gold you can get from that paint. 50/50 mix is a good starting point.
I've had good success mixing the GSW pigments with other gold paints - specifically S75 Necro Gold and Peridot Alchemy. I also add a touch of thinner and flow improver. It doesn't change the colour too much but really helps get rid of visible pigments on the miniature.
Greenstuff world pigments metals are amazing! Also really love their bronze, and how you can mix them with inks and varnishes. Warning; they will totally ruin your brushes, even more so than normal metallic paints, and you also don't want to spill this stuff on your workbench!
My Vallejo Metal Color looks so different to yours through the airbrush - yeah it's a greenish (i.e. realistic) tone but I always get beautiful, smooth, consistent coverage. Maybe you got a bad batch or didn't mix it well enough. Great video!
Vince convinced me to pick up a bottle GSW's metal gold a few months ago and loved the results. Even with some dollar store medium and synthetic brush, the stuff goes on really well and love the warm color after a wash with soft tone.
Shortly after the war, my grandfather made decorative shop windows by hand. It was not like today that you can order everything. So he did everything from scratch letters, posters, decor of the site itself. From my mother's stories, I know that he was just using the kind of gold you presented from green stuff world. In addition, he blown it with a glass tube on the decorated surface, sometimes mixed with various types of medium. In Poland, we call this product "gold", we can call it a gold pigment. You can certainly get these pigments from any well-stocked artist store. Sometimes the best solutions are those discovered long ago, why reinvent the wheel :) At least when you mix paints in this way, you can feel like Leonardo da Vinci creating paint from a combination of pigment and egg yolk. Regards, a very factual review you can learn a lot.
My go to have and will always be retributor armour and Balthazar's gold from games workshop :) you actually don't want to water them down as much as he did for the brush test, otherwise the metal flakes separate. It's designed to be painted with a brush pretty much straight out of the pot, with just a drop of water, I get perfect coverage everytime, no brush strokes, only one layer required on black primer, 2 on white primer.
I’d love to know how you thinned the products for airbrush. My personal favorite gold recipe (although I haven’t done an exhaustive study) is to Vallejo metal color then spray brown ink over it. It created a very deep rich true metal effect.
My go to gold at the moment is VMC cavalry brown basecoat and AK old gold on top of that. That gives me a very warm, yellow gold not unlike retributor armor (minus retributor's awful grainy finish).
I've used sally hansen color foil nail polish usually the chrome and the gold for various art projects because it has a better mirrored finish than any paint I've been able to find and it's pretty inexpensive it can be brushed or used in a sprayer without clogging it. A little tip I've learned through the years is if you use a metallic silver or chrome under coat it helps gold paint pop and have a more mirrored metallic finish
Your test is basically reflecting my own opinion and tests. I tried many gold because I wasn't happy with many gold once I applied them with brush. GSW Pure Gold is by far my favorite, followed by Citadel Retributor and, close enough, Scale 75. The GSW Pure Gold is a delight when it comes to paint trims and details on a miniature with a brush. You don't have to make multiple passes. One stroke is often enough to have excellent coverage.
Thank you for doing the science! I'm bookmarking this video for next time I need to order gold paint. Really surprising that Vallejo (who are generally the go-to company for metallics - especially silver and steel) only reached fifth place. That just shows how incredibly good the top ones are.
FYI, I believe the wax based AK True Metal range are designed so that they can be buffed for a smoother metallic effect. The AK Xtreme Metal range are their airbrush metallics - just in case you think you still don't have enough gold paint!
Completely agree about the citadel gold. Horrible to brush with but I was gobsmacked how good it went through an airbrush when I tried it a few weeks ago
1:44 I fucking love it when all you painting TH-camrs cameo in each others' videos, like you dropping into Midwinter Minis' that one time just to say "Eyyy, I gotchu buddy" XD Really builds a great sense of community.
Awesome! It's nice to see the range. Depending on the color scheme it's nice to be able to push the gold hue and value in different directions. Thanks for the comparison!
Talking about gold I really appreciate the retributor armour. But sometimes I gain other variants using different bases and gold on them to variate final results
I love my Vallejo Model Colour Brass (70.801). It may not be named "gold" but applyed with a brush it looks almost 1:1 like Citadel Retributor Armour when applied with an airbrush. For my SoB I use the Retributor Armour spraycan to prime them and if there´s any gold needed to cover up mistakes, I use the Vallejo Brass.
i personally was always a fan of P3 metallic colors. i started with them by accident and love the saturation and metallic look to them. i usually highlight with a very bright gold on a retributor armor primed with the GW can .
my fav so far is definetly vallejo model color old gold. i dont like reddish/yellow golds too much, the old gold is kinda muted, not too shiny not too greenish - just lovely
Green Stuff world pure metal Gold pigment works great and have a nice finish but it's quite delicate to the touch. It will start falling/fading if you rub it. Surely it will improve with a pigment fixer, but I've not tested it yet.
Thank you, a metallic video without Vince wouldn't be complete. Happy that you tried the greenstuffworld gold pigments mit vallejo metal varnish that gets the Vince approval. I have it but need to check out the mixing ratio again, cause it was a pain to paint with the amounts I mixed. Out of the bottle my favorite is scales necro gold
I love the Pro Acryl Rich Gold. I'll try the GreenStuff pigment next. That P3 Blighted gold was interesting, Scale 75 Decayed metal is another good dark undercoat for gold.
I've noticed Gunpla and 40k/Fantasy painters rarely use the same brands of paint. I think you'd be really interested in Mr Color's Mr Metal Gold. It's got a really unique feature of going on with a dull finish that you can then polish by hand and it kinda does the edge highlights for you. Downside is that it's really air brush only.
I've noticed this as well. As an armor modeler myself, I was surprised there wasn't a Mr. Hobby or Tamiya paint in this list. Personally, I like Tamiya Titan Gold.
Surely it's best to pick the one that most fits what you want it to look like on the model? In terms of the 'goldiest' (nice word btw) gold, an example of actual gold to compare the models to might have made for a more definitive or better defined comparison. The golds all lined up looked like any other colours would. Better to have a nice range to choose from than just one that looks the most gold.
But how accurate is it to real gold in colour? I suggest We need a second test where you are painting gold on a gold bar ;-) Nice work I love these tests to compare different colours
I'm honestly going to stick with my liquid old gold cause I don't mind the effort, and on a small model that's not entirely covered, I find that it really gains ground.
I actually enjoy the look of the true metals by abteilung 502. Mineral spirits for thinner. But also I used with blend of oils to weather and then highlight. But for a clean look...Def not. you can buff with them which is cool and it smoothes everything out more.
Not surprised about retributor, it's one of the best metallic paints. Other ones missed out that are worth a look - Darkstar Molten Metals and the Warcolors Nostalgia 88 Shining Gold.
Fascinating test mate. Sooooooo many variations I think I'd still go the colour I want first rather than how it paints out of a brush or airbrush. No point having a colour that goes on well but which you don't actually like the colour of!
To get a dark gold I mix Citadel Retributor Gold with Vallejo Gun Metal Grey airbrush. As both have a metallic edge to them they blend well and give a really nice deep, dark gold effect 😊 love the video and may well be investing in some P3 paints to see what they're like 👍
What might have been interesting would be to have put a few different grades of gold next to the models to see how close to the real thing they get. Another thing I had a crazy idea about was trying gold leaf for the fun of it as I have some silver and gold leaf materials for jewellery use. Quite likely too expensive and fiddly for real usage, but I'm curious to see how it might come out. If I can find where I put the stuff I have I might give it a try sometime.
I was deciding between custodes and sisters of battle army for my next project with all this goldiest gold I think it has inspires me to go with the gold custodes
Very informative. I’ve been loving the ProAcryl golds for some time now and good to see it rank highly. It would have been nice to see how the same paints brush onto miniatures too. Strokes on black paper look very different to on figures as a whole.
I've used proacryl for a year now, LOVE them! Brush, airbrush, the whole line is consistent and awesome! The paints are affordable (22ml bottle with shaker included) The downside is actually getting them! the main sets are out of stock very often. Also, as a side note, the folks also stream tutorials on twitch and through their website. (Hello Jason and Jen!!) I am NOT endorsed by Monument Hobbies! Just a fan!
my boi retributor armor coming in hot, ive always loved it, super nice consistency too. i also really liked the blighted gold for what it is too oddly enough i really disliked the greenstuff world gold
I like Alclad II Pale Gold. It's a lacquer paint and airbrush only but if I'm able to airbrush whatever it is I want to be gold then I like the results I get with it.
THE BEST medium for the gold from Greenstuff World is to mix it about 50/50 with a 50/50 of vallejo airbrush thinner and vallejo gloss polyurethane varnish. This is one of the best golds and the only thing better/more reflective/shinnier is a spaz stix chrome over a super gloss black primer with alclad II candy gold over the top (all thru an airbrush) which is hard to do right, a toxic pain to deal with, and only good for larger surfaces or whole models.
I definitely like the pro acryl metallics. The rich gold is my go to gold now, as I prefer a slightly warmer color, but they also have another gold that is more of a cold yellow. Their metallics remind me of scale75, but have better coverage and I feel are easier to apply, as they have the same smooth consistency that the non metallic pro acryl paints do
Here's hoping we get a summary of just the brush scores over on Squidly Bits . . . if I'm doing gold detail (trim on armour as an example), I'm doing that just with a brush - and I suspect not a huge amount of gold airbrushing going on (except for Custodes)
I was surprised at how poorly the Metal Color did, considering how great my experiences have been with their silvers. More fuel for the fire of my desire to try more Pro Acryl paints, I suppose. :)
@@theinternetofrandomthings7796 Its a white gold. It uses aluminium flakes like all the other VMC colours and I think that won't allow for a rich, yellow gold.
I would be very interested in a video where you show the colours you use the most. There has been a video where you describe why you don't need a thousand colours, but usually everbody has more colours than he really needs- and everbody has 5-20 favourite colours that are used as the basic for most projects.
I Like Vince .V`s: 3 drops Vallejo metal color gold 2 drops Vallejo metal color copper 1/128th teaspoon Greenstuff World pure metal antique gold 1 drop flow improver
I would prefer lacquer instead of acrylic when it comes to metal paint. Especially when you are already using the airbrush. Try Gaia notes star bright gold or use star bright silver and then paint a layer of clear yellow/orange over it. It is much smoother with finer pigment
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Do silver next please!
Look outside the hobby.
I use Liquid Leaf gold leaf paint.
I don't recall whose vid it was, but someone did a tutorial on the Green Stuff World metall pigments, and instead of regular medium, he used Vallejo Metal Varnish, the brilliant version. That was a gamechanger for me in terms of true metal gold.
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Your advertising worked. I didn't end up buying anything, but I checked them out. They probably can't because of IP rights, but if they were able to do figures of Brom's magic cards from the 90s they could just have all my money. Also, I prefer .stls
Great video and thanks for the shoutout, that was very fun to join you a little. THe GSW is actually my new go-to for gold. :)
Thx for the cameo 😍
vallejo metal aluminum still for bright steel?
@@chrislee7704 Vallejo Metal Color is still my go to for steels, bar none. In fact, I might have a video coming soon on that...
@@VinceVenturella i have to say you are totally correct when you check the metal flakes. vallejo wins
@@VinceVenturella you've got your hands on the new formulation?
I've always heard that the base coat can really affect how vibrant a gold layer will be. Can you do a similar video with your top three colors over the top of different colored base coats (say grey, white, and red) to see how the base coat effects the final look?
Came here to make a similar comment. Not all metallics are made to be painted over black. But I would also say that using only the top three is a bad idea because these paints already are proven to be good with black.
It’s likely not worth making another video
I would like to see zenith primed minis and spoons if you do another test like this.
whatever hue you choose for metals, make sure it's glossy, or the metal flakes won't amount for jack shit
True as that might be, it would be an unbais test.
Doing them all over the same base coat gives it a, well.... baseline.
Honestly I think the GSW pigment should be disqualified, because its not a paint its a pigment.
Retributor armor over white is gorgeous highly recommend
This, 100%! I usually paint gold over a silver coat over black.
Somewhere in the US Vincey V. Is looking up from his paint desk and whispers "I can feel a great disturbance in the force"
all the love to vincey, may he rest in sprue pieces
cause hes right
I'm impressed that Citadel managed to come out so well.
I think I'm going to get some, it was probably my favourite in terms of what I want my gold color to look like.
I'm not surprised that Army Painter came in near the end.
It's a really good paint for the price usually, but you get what you pay for. Discount wares for discount price. My biggest beef with Army Painter has been the inconsistency of the quality.
Some tubes will be amazing to work with, others will be a total nightmare.
yeah i completely agree about army painter, they are very hit and miss.
Funny how "Green" Stuff World gold has actually a green tint to it.
it looks more bronze to me too
@@NikoMoraKamu Yeah, it looks UGLY. Maybe it's nice paint, but gold, it isn't, and the testers who gave it high score must be blind. Weathered bronze, sure, but gold? Wot?
@@KuK137 I think they were just rating it subjectively considering the only objective measure Emile mentioned ie texture.
I tried the greenstuff pigment gold and it's got a really weak bind to the model, you've gotta paint and then seal it in else it'll just rub off.
It does in the video, mine in real life looks much better
Honestly best looking gold I've seen so far is Vallejo model color Bronze. Yeah it's a bit funny how "bronze" is the best gold but it really is just incredible. To my eye at least it registers far more as a gold that has been forged into armor than any of the gold paints do.
Nice tip, how do you apply it? Do you use any other gold on top for light or something like that?
@@jpf338 Well I simply apply it with a brush over primer,it's actually insane how well it covers everything,straight up just one thin coat is all you need. As for the latter question I highlight it by just doing some color mixing,so you know adding some shades of green and purple to it as glazes and then for the shadows I just mix the bronze paint with bit of black,any black will do but I use Kimera kolors for that.
If you're not a fan of manually painting your shadows or you're painting many models at the same time you could just use a wash and it would be fine.
@@saltybob3711 I never have any problems with may be your batch came bad or something?
I mean the color is not the one most likes, but never read on someone having trouble applaying it.
@@saltybob3711 yeah I actually said the wrong thing. The bronze is a model color not game color.
It is pretty good. It's like the inverse of Citadel Balthasar Gold, which is way more bronze than gold.
All this gold and no Custodes in sight?! Would love to see a Squidmar take on our golden boys! ♥️
Well clearly he has to find the best Gold first before he would dare grace the Custodes with his brush.
@@singularleaf3895 yup. dont want to risk committing heresy now. gotta make sure only the best of the best touches a custode
I love the AK interactive gold. It’s more of a rub and buff than a “paint” I also find the GW paint to red for my taste but I will be looking at the others as I’ve been on the look out for a good gold for an age. Thank you 👍🏻
I also have a few of these and they're excellent. (The true metal wax ones).
Yeah, was coming to comment on this too, doesn’t look like it’s been buffed up at all so is quite flat.
I also prefer the AK gold once buffed/polished.
I just got a tube of this and was quite impressed with the finish. I assume it can't be airbruhed though?
that vince clip will do for a fine meme gif, thank you sir
Sudden Vince appearance. Not going to lie I thought about him when I saw the video.
Those results were quite unexpected.
Vince likes a mix right? Like two of the metal colors and the greenstuff pigments?
I should probably look that up before commenting
@@puntedagain398 yes the metal colour gold and the copper should be mixed with one another to get the best gold you can get from that paint. 50/50 mix is a good starting point.
I've had good success mixing the GSW pigments with other gold paints - specifically S75 Necro Gold and Peridot Alchemy. I also add a touch of thinner and flow improver. It doesn't change the colour too much but really helps get rid of visible pigments on the miniature.
Greenstuff world pigments metals are amazing! Also really love their bronze, and how you can mix them with inks and varnishes. Warning; they will totally ruin your brushes, even more so than normal metallic paints, and you also don't want to spill this stuff on your workbench!
I noticed the same thing with citadel's balthasar gold. It actually comes out beautifully through an airbrush.
My Vallejo Metal Color looks so different to yours through the airbrush - yeah it's a greenish (i.e. realistic) tone but I always get beautiful, smooth, consistent coverage. Maybe you got a bad batch or didn't mix it well enough. Great video!
I've always wondered if videos that compare a lot of paints inadvertently mix less.
love me some decayed gold by scale 75. its a gold with a green tinge to it. looks sweet to put on a "deathguard" army.
I would love to see how the paints look over a gloss black basecoat. I think the paints would look different and often better!
The Emperor approves. Now paint some Custodes with it.
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Vince convinced me to pick up a bottle GSW's metal gold a few months ago and loved the results. Even with some dollar store medium and synthetic brush, the stuff goes on really well and love the warm color after a wash with soft tone.
Try them in Vallejo's Metal Varnish, the brilliant one. It makes the gold even goldier.
Shortly after the war, my grandfather made decorative shop windows by hand. It was not like today that you can order everything. So he did everything from scratch letters, posters, decor of the site itself. From my mother's stories, I know that he was just using the kind of gold you presented from green stuff world. In addition, he blown it with a glass tube on the decorated surface, sometimes mixed with various types of medium. In Poland, we call this product "gold", we can call it a gold pigment. You can certainly get these pigments from any well-stocked artist store. Sometimes the best solutions are those discovered long ago, why reinvent the wheel :) At least when you mix paints in this way, you can feel like Leonardo da Vinci creating paint from a combination of pigment and egg yolk. Regards, a very factual review you can learn a lot.
Goldiest. The 110% actual existing word.
The most actualiest existingiest word ever.
Dunno, it seems perfectly cromulent
I'm the Goldiest
Haven't you heard the story of Goldiestlocks and the Three Bears?
They were the three-est bears to ever three.
My go to have and will always be retributor armour and Balthazar's gold from games workshop :) you actually don't want to water them down as much as he did for the brush test, otherwise the metal flakes separate. It's designed to be painted with a brush pretty much straight out of the pot, with just a drop of water, I get perfect coverage everytime, no brush strokes, only one layer required on black primer, 2 on white primer.
I’d love to know how you thinned the products for airbrush.
My personal favorite gold recipe (although I haven’t done an exhaustive study) is to Vallejo metal color then spray brown ink over it. It created a very deep rich true metal effect.
My go to gold at the moment is VMC cavalry brown basecoat and AK old gold on top of that. That gives me a very warm, yellow gold not unlike retributor armor (minus retributor's awful grainy finish).
I've used sally hansen color foil nail polish usually the chrome and the gold for various art projects because it has a better mirrored finish than any paint I've been able to find and it's pretty inexpensive it can be brushed or used in a sprayer without clogging it. A little tip I've learned through the years is if you use a metallic silver or chrome under coat it helps gold paint pop and have a more mirrored metallic finish
Your test is basically reflecting my own opinion and tests. I tried many gold because I wasn't happy with many gold once I applied them with brush.
GSW Pure Gold is by far my favorite, followed by Citadel Retributor and, close enough, Scale 75.
The GSW Pure Gold is a delight when it comes to paint trims and details on a miniature with a brush. You don't have to make multiple passes. One stroke is often enough to have excellent coverage.
Thank you for doing the science! I'm bookmarking this video for next time I need to order gold paint. Really surprising that Vallejo (who are generally the go-to company for metallics - especially silver and steel) only reached fifth place. That just shows how incredibly good the top ones are.
FYI, I believe the wax based AK True Metal range are designed so that they can be buffed for a smoother metallic effect. The AK Xtreme Metal range are their airbrush metallics - just in case you think you still don't have enough gold paint!
Yupp buff that wax paint on gloss black surface.
Completely agree about the citadel gold. Horrible to brush with but I was gobsmacked how good it went through an airbrush when I tried it a few weeks ago
Scale 75 for me, they looked really good to 'my eye' via the medium of my monitor!
I'm using Green stuff world ''antique gold'' its covers very well and looks nice
Vallejo liquid gold is great but tricky to use. I went to vallejo metal color gold and its great. Super pale but looks great with a sepia wash
Agreed. Vallejo liquid gold is my go to. I absolutely love it. I just avoid brush painting and only use it with airbrush.
Extra like for the Vince drop in. Immediately heard his comment the second before the insert. Another amazing video!
The Valjo metal gold looks good if you are doing a tarnished gold look.
1:44 I fucking love it when all you painting TH-camrs cameo in each others' videos, like you dropping into Midwinter Minis' that one time just to say "Eyyy, I gotchu buddy" XD Really builds a great sense of community.
I've always loved retributor armour gold. It always feels like a shame to shade and highlight it, it's great as it is.
It looks really awesome when drybrushed over bronze imo
Awesome! It's nice to see the range. Depending on the color scheme it's nice to be able to push the gold hue and value in different directions. Thanks for the comparison!
I'm not a fan of most of the citadel metallic but Retributor armour has always been great. Thanks for the experiment!
"The most beautiful collection of golden boys you'll ever see"
*The Emperor would like to know your location*
Talking about gold I really appreciate the retributor armour. But sometimes I gain other variants using different bases and gold on them to variate final results
I really like the 'warmth ' of the rich and dwarven gold paints
I love my Vallejo Model Colour Brass (70.801). It may not be named "gold" but applyed with a brush it looks almost 1:1 like Citadel Retributor Armour when applied with an airbrush. For my SoB I use the Retributor Armour spraycan to prime them and if there´s any gold needed to cover up mistakes, I use the Vallejo Brass.
i personally was always a fan of P3 metallic colors. i started with them by accident and love the saturation and metallic look to them. i usually highlight with a very bright gold on a retributor armor primed with the GW can .
Very timely tome and the Custodes figures I'm just putting together. I was at a loss for which gold to use. Thanks
"I'm all the way in the US and I can still see the pigments."
With such a wide variety of hues and saturations, I can see using them all in their strongest application forms with NMM techniques.
my fav so far is definetly vallejo model color old gold. i dont like reddish/yellow golds too much, the old gold is kinda muted, not too shiny not too greenish - just lovely
Green Stuff world pure metal Gold pigment works great and have a nice finish but it's quite delicate to the touch. It will start falling/fading if you rub it. Surely it will improve with a pigment fixer, but I've not tested it yet.
My favorite gold is a 1:1 mix of gore grunta fur over any silver. I got this technique from Juan Hidalgo minis. He uses Canopic alloy.
Green Stuff World gold pigments even look better when mixed with molotow liquid chrome. You won't believe that shine!
Thank you, a metallic video without Vince wouldn't be complete. Happy that you tried the greenstuffworld gold pigments mit vallejo metal varnish that gets the Vince approval. I have it but need to check out the mixing ratio again, cause it was a pain to paint with the amounts I mixed. Out of the bottle my favorite is scales necro gold
I've exclusively used acrylic golds, but got my hands on some of the Vallejo Gold that is alcohol-based recently. Cool video as always, my friend!
I use Vallejo, Citadel, Tamiya and Mr Hobby and the Mr Hobby/Metal Color to me is the best if applied correctly through the airbrush.
I love the Pro Acryl Rich Gold. I'll try the GreenStuff pigment next. That P3 Blighted gold was interesting, Scale 75 Decayed metal is another good dark undercoat for gold.
I do like darkstar's molten metal range personally, but thanks for testing these as i may pick a couple up for the variety of it.
If you use vallejo metal color under retributor armor, it does something to the surface tension of retributor armor to make it brush on smooth.
I've noticed Gunpla and 40k/Fantasy painters rarely use the same brands of paint. I think you'd be really interested in Mr Color's Mr Metal Gold. It's got a really unique feature of going on with a dull finish that you can then polish by hand and it kinda does the edge highlights for you. Downside is that it's really air brush only.
I've noticed this as well. As an armor modeler myself, I was surprised there wasn't a Mr. Hobby or Tamiya paint in this list. Personally, I like Tamiya Titan Gold.
Surely it's best to pick the one that most fits what you want it to look like on the model? In terms of the 'goldiest' (nice word btw) gold, an example of actual gold to compare the models to might have made for a more definitive or better defined comparison. The golds all lined up looked like any other colours would. Better to have a nice range to choose from than just one that looks the most gold.
I've been using the warcolours paints and loving those myself.
That bit whith Vince and the pigments always makes me crack up. So funny
But how accurate is it to real gold in colour? I suggest We need a second test where you are painting gold on a gold bar ;-)
Nice work I love these tests to compare different colours
it depends which kind of gold i suppose lol
I really missed a comparison with a real piece of gold
I'm honestly going to stick with my liquid old gold cause I don't mind the effort, and on a small model that's not entirely covered, I find that it really gains ground.
I actually enjoy the look of the true metals by abteilung 502. Mineral spirits for thinner. But also I used with blend of oils to weather and then highlight. But for a clean look...Def not. you can buff with them which is cool and it smoothes everything out more.
omg i needed this video before i started my stormcast.
I really enjoy using alclad pale gold on my Custodes. Gives a very nice mirror finish.
Vallejo metal color are the best silver ones hands down, but I always thought the gold looked off
Not surprised about retributor, it's one of the best metallic paints.
Other ones missed out that are worth a look - Darkstar Molten Metals and the Warcolors Nostalgia 88 Shining Gold.
Fascinating test mate. Sooooooo many variations I think I'd still go the colour I want first rather than how it paints out of a brush or airbrush. No point having a colour that goes on well but which you don't actually like the colour of!
That's the best Vincey V cameo since...well, ever. This should be a GIF for every rumour engine...
5:37 b-roll the backwards, abteilung502 is oil, AK true metal is wax (I really like their wax metallics BTW)
We need a video like this for silver and copper paint, PLEASEEEE
To get a dark gold I mix Citadel Retributor Gold with Vallejo Gun Metal Grey airbrush. As both have a metallic edge to them they blend well and give a really nice deep, dark gold effect 😊 love the video and may well be investing in some P3 paints to see what they're like 👍
I've always been a fan of doing silver then a transparent yellow paint personally for my golds and candy coats
What might have been interesting would be to have put a few different grades of gold next to the models to see how close to the real thing they get.
Another thing I had a crazy idea about was trying gold leaf for the fun of it as I have some silver and gold leaf materials for jewellery use. Quite likely too expensive and fiddly for real usage, but I'm curious to see how it might come out. If I can find where I put the stuff I have I might give it a try sometime.
I was deciding between custodes and sisters of battle army for my next project with all this goldiest gold I think it has inspires me to go with the gold custodes
Very informative. I’ve been loving the ProAcryl golds for some time now and good to see it rank highly. It would have been nice to see how the same paints brush onto miniatures too. Strokes on black paper look very different to on figures as a whole.
I personally found Vallejo Liquid Gold series and AK 502 wax series are best with dry brushing.
52 Miniatures did a video on the Green Stuff World gold and it looks even better in his video.
I have to say all Pro Acryl colors are amazing. By far the best manufacturer imo.
I’m using retributor armor right now on my imperial knight
I mix GSW gold pigment with Vallejo Metallic Medium and i love the result.
I've used proacryl for a year now, LOVE them! Brush, airbrush, the whole line is consistent and awesome! The paints are affordable (22ml bottle with shaker included) The downside is actually getting them! the main sets are out of stock very often. Also, as a side note, the folks also stream tutorials on twitch and through their website. (Hello Jason and Jen!!) I am NOT endorsed by Monument Hobbies! Just a fan!
P3 has a lot of different gold's and even bronze that I recommend. The blighted gold is their darkest
my boi retributor armor coming in hot, ive always loved it, super nice consistency too. i also really liked the blighted gold for what it is too
oddly enough i really disliked the greenstuff world gold
I like Alclad II Pale Gold. It's a lacquer paint and airbrush only but if I'm able to airbrush whatever it is I want to be gold then I like the results I get with it.
THE BEST medium for the gold from Greenstuff World is to mix it about 50/50 with a 50/50 of vallejo airbrush thinner and vallejo gloss polyurethane varnish.
This is one of the best golds and the only thing better/more reflective/shinnier is a spaz stix chrome over a super gloss black primer with alclad II candy gold over the top (all thru an airbrush) which is hard to do right, a toxic pain to deal with, and only good for larger surfaces or whole models.
I definitely like the pro acryl metallics. The rich gold is my go to gold now, as I prefer a slightly warmer color, but they also have another gold that is more of a cold yellow. Their metallics remind me of scale75, but have better coverage and I feel are easier to apply, as they have the same smooth consistency that the non metallic pro acryl paints do
Here's hoping we get a summary of just the brush scores over on Squidly Bits . . . if I'm doing gold detail (trim on armour as an example), I'm doing that just with a brush - and I suspect not a huge amount of gold airbrushing going on (except for Custodes)
I was surprised at how poorly the Metal Color did, considering how great my experiences have been with their silvers.
More fuel for the fire of my desire to try more Pro Acryl paints, I suppose. :)
He's not wrong though, the MC gold is dull and lacks the lustre of the scale 75 or the pro acryl. A real step down from their MC other metallics.
@@theinternetofrandomthings7796 Its a white gold. It uses aluminium flakes like all the other VMC colours and I think that won't allow for a rich, yellow gold.
It has it's place... just not for the kind of gold people expect.
Retributor looked phenomenal through an airbrush....that is a crazy surprise!
I would be very interested in a video where you show the colours you use the most. There has been a video where you describe why you don't need a thousand colours, but usually everbody has more colours than he really needs- and everbody has 5-20 favourite colours that are used as the basic for most projects.
I have great results from a Gloss black primer with the Amsterdam Gold acrylic inks.
I Like Vince .V`s:
3 drops Vallejo metal color gold
2 drops Vallejo metal color copper
1/128th teaspoon Greenstuff World pure metal antique gold
1 drop flow improver
Funny, mixing Vallejo Metal Color Gold (it does have a weird green/yellow tone) with vallejo metal color copper you get a great gold tone
You should do a video on silvers. Leadbelcher, gun metal grey.. etc.
I would prefer lacquer instead of acrylic when it comes to metal paint. Especially when you are already using the airbrush. Try Gaia notes star bright gold or use star bright silver and then paint a layer of clear yellow/orange over it. It is much smoother with finer pigment
Thats a relief since I just ordered the Greenstuff World gold pigment this week 😅
You should try Dark Star Miniatures Royal Gold, thats my favourite.
Their Blackened Bronze is also incredible for Chaos models.
Great video with thoughtful breakdown of pros and cons
That Dwarven metal gold looks tremendous on camera. I might have to get some. I like that richer, more orangey hue.