Plasticity is based on Nurbs and Blender is based on Polygons. Back in my time in 2001 there were special tools in 3dsMax to do Nurbs modelling. Catia and Solidworks have always been Nurbs based as they were used for CAD and CAM (Cost more than a Car). But now the two worlds are merging. I think we underestimate the power of Blender, but you should try creating Booleans in 3dsmax Version 4 and 5. You will in 2001 2002 and you will never be able to do more than one Boolean. Plasticity is definitely the future for Nurbs and 3d printing. But it will not replace Blender.
Nurbs Surfaces lack UV Mapping properly like Poly surfaces. That is why you have to convert them to poly and retopologies before doing UVW unwrap. They are good for 3D printing as they are more precise in the form. But they are not great for Virtual space.
@@Mranshumansinghr you are fundamentally wrong. if you done nurbs modelling right way then the UVs automatically follows the surface and there is no need to do extra retopology work which is must in polygonal modelling work.
for the price I prefer 2000% blender, at least those who don't have money can create and not always let those who can afford softwares to express themselves and we can be very grateful to everyone who worked on this software to make it free.
If your bread and butter is 3D modeling something FAST then Plasticity is the way to go... If you have the time to learn the processes for achieving the same things in Blender, there's no reason not to save the money.
@@SteveJones-uf9hs what do you mean about grifter....like those who are using others creations with some AI's without paying anything to the creators except a few bucks to the AI service ?
@@joshuabornerthat’s not about if it’s fair or not free will always be more accessible than paid and blender is good enough for most amateurish works and for those going pro they will be more interested in industry standards instead
So… your saying CAD is better than blender?? They are completely different things! Poly modeling and vector modeling have their own ups and downs, there is no best ever choice. I swear you must be sponsored by plasticity😂 edit: yes, i watched the video to the end.
Yeah. This whole video is "Non-polygonal modeling program does some things better than polygonal modeling software". "Spoons are better for eating soup than forks, so spoons are the ultimate utensil!". And despite the repeated use of the word "impossible", nothing int his video is *impossible* in Blender, it's just more difficult.
I can model literally everything in this video in blender. Not only can i give the resulting models a significantly better topology than plasticity can, I can add controls and nuance to every shape here that plasticity cannot. There is no such thing as an impossible shape in blender. If it is manifold - it can be made. Ill go head to head with plasticity anytime. Let anyone decide which version of a shape they would rather use - Mine or plasticity's.
@@weplaywax you think this very average 3d TH-camr got compensated to push Plasticity? LOL, nah, he just found some amazing software that's all. Company 'behind' Plasticity? It's one man...that's it...
@@unclemonty9506 "try manufacturing it" bitch please. You sound like a digital boomer trying to look modern for the younglings by using AI randomly in your comment. Get outta here.
@@unclemonty9506 the sadistic glee of people like you saying shit like that always gets me. You've never possessed a skill somebody else would envy, so now you think you're getting even. You're not. You're still a jealous little cunt.
It is entirely possible to do these things in Blender, and get good shading, but Plasticity does have some bleeding-edge methods for getting it done, where Blender takes quite a few more steps to achieve what you did in a few clicks. So it's inaccurate to say "impossible"... although it may *seem* impossible, because it does take more effort to achieve those effects in Blender in its current state. You did a good job at highlighting some of the things Blender struggles with. Blender is constantly being updated and improved, so hopefully the awesome devs learn from Plasticity, Womp, and the people putting in the effort to create SDFs in Blender and they give us these tools out of the box soon.
Despite the limitations, we can’t beat “free” when choosing a cost effective piece of software unless the paid option really adds to your productivity. I am fine with Blender so far (it has been over 20 years already!)
You can texture easily with ngons, FYI. This is a common misconception and completely false. The only thing us you need clean quad-based geo if for UVing sometimes.
If u r using 3ds max just import it in STP file and thrrough modifier increase the product quality of the surface of each object to production. And u will have a flawless surface.
Plasticity has hired so many TH-camrs to sell their product as I can see the "promotional" videos everywhere on TH-cam. Nope, I'll stay with Blender :p
The fact that we see too many plasticity users say "it's better than blender" instead of sayin "hey this is so cool" shows the popularity of blender over these years. I'm not a cad modeler so I'm using blender and 3d max. but for cad users there are tons of options available. IT"S NOT A CORRECT COMPARISION! u should compare it with solidworks or autodesk invention. u see where I'm going with it?
@@spaceman-pe5je it's not that ez, i know it. but in softwares like rhino, it is extremely handy for CAD modelling, unlike blender which only had extremely basic nurbs modelling
Josh whole plasticity is much better than Rhino for model however I would rather use Fusion360 which has also the ability to use polygon subD geometry and convert to BREPS. ;) You should call your video being about hard surface modeling - the title is misleading.
I've been using plasticity for a few months now and absolutely love it. Blender still has it's place and its very good and useful, but like 80% of my modeling time is in plasticity now.
Ok this seems a bit based on a misunderstanding of the purpose between these two pieces of software. One is a 3D modelling and animation software, and the other is a solid body modelling software. In other words, one is meant for virtual purposes (games, textures media, animation), and the other is meant for manufacturing purposes (with rendering features to preview final output). Sure, there is some functional overlap, but there is a lot of functionality unique to either that they don't really compete.
2:20 Sweeps and Lofts *are* actually achievable inside Blender: For sweeps you can use curves with custom profiles from other curves. For Lofts you can use the "Bridge Edge Loops" action in the edge menu or the Loop Tools addon that comes built in to bridge between faces. You can tweak the number of cuts and twists between each form.
Square + Circle + Triangle + Rectangle. In Blender, there is no way you can achieve this with "Brigde Edge Loops" like Plasticity does. I never heard of this software before seeing this video, but I've tried for a few moments after that. I am not sure about the software's quality but the program in it's behind, looks promising. I believe eventually, 3D world will change it's algorithm from Polygons to something else. This can be a start.
@@jackpaynevc problem is, this is not a new invention, it has just been applied to classic polymodeling techniques. things like NURBS curves and surfaces have been a thing for a while now, even catmull-clark subdivision could be basically considered similar i sort of doubt this would make a difference outside of modeling, it'd be a LONG way before polygons are dropped, since they're the basis of the entire rendering pipeline, from z-test to object shaders, they're all based on vertices this is a really interesting topic though, i kind of see a resemblance to the comparison between raster and vector images, but in 3d. Still, i'm very new to this
@neuroblossom Create the individual shapes by using a circle and then determine the segments for each shape. Then join them and then bridge loop them. That is how it's done in Blender. I am a newbie but I learned that 2 weeks ago.
Predatory pricing policy for a newbie company/individual. $299 for a license, that too have updates included only for 1 year. So after 1 year you have to buy again.
What’s better? I’m buying a printer with my tax return. Thought I would have to buy a workstation pc but starting to realize that’s probably not too necessary. I have many ideas Many
I personally fail to see anything that's new in Plasticity vs Hardops/MeshMachine/Boxcutter. You do have to clean up the export from Plasticity anyways no?
Being a games programmer, at one time you could pay a one off price for modeling Software like $200 but now some companies want $200 a month and the product is NEVER yours. Blender and Sketchup is no use for solid models unless you spend hours fixing your model. I have just started on 3d printing and have not decided on a good product yet.
Plasticity really does deserve the praise it's getting, the ability to do whatever you want without breaking manifold of generated export objects is amazing for 3d printing. It's just so powerful and intuitive that I've not had a reason to keep struggling through freecad. Now I can have accuracy and aesthetics however I want them. I keep learning new features that make my experience more enjoyable and productive, while updates keep dropping that are pretty exciting. Bool and loft operations are just like magic, the ability to create an object out of the surface of other nearby selected surfaces just recently blew my mind. It's wild and is everything I was looking for and applied in a way that is concise and more importantly searchable. FYI blender loop cuts are 'isoparam' that is one that's super important to know!
funny that you say that these things are not possible in Blender, I do them mostly all the time, but between your examples and me is one difference I know of these Problems and avoid them from the beginning so I never enconter these Problems since my Models gets created with that in mind ^^
The catch is the shading isn't always the best in more complex models when exporting from Plasticity, so the same problems mentioned at the start remain. It's a useful tool in the sense that it can help you make harder shapes faster and easier, but aside from that, it doesn't really solve much.
Plasticity is to blender, as illustrator is to photoshop. Demonstrating certain comparisons between the output from the two will make people who don’t know what that distinction really means, infer that the vector software is radically superior. At the end of the day, there will be things you will need to import your plasticity creations into blender for, and when you do, you’re going to find that, not only do certain edge features do not survive that journey with the same characteristics, but that native blender creations can achieve better resolved objects than their plasticity imported counterparts (although this will potentially be addressed in an update, since plasticity being math based, would imply that the current limitations were arbitrary assigned by the programmers).
Maybe you should do simple tutorial about cleaning final mess? cause it's not finalized low poly model, and...what's about shading?))) here your downvote, great, that you do so much with thumbnail, vfx and so much fun name for the video. Afraid, what's before your _low, _high...
I use Blender for about 3 years now and while I don't model alot to need a specific software for it, it's awesome to see how there is such a variety of quality programs out there, to make the 3D workflow as customizable and practical as possible
CAD is a very general term. Computer Aided Design. That's all. You use it like it has a specific tool set list or software. AUTOCAD is CAD however it can't do much of the things that Blender can do let alone Plasticity.
But Blender is free! All of those things can be done in Blender. Just takes a bit of work/thinking. For example, if you want to cut a circular hole into a sphere, don't start at the side of the sphere. If it's necessary to cut into the side, just work on the geometry a bit. You can't expect a software to do everything you want. The cube with the slope cut into the edge - just add two edge loops.
It’s hactually the step back. Knowing the topology issues makes you unlimited, although after ur getting all the wisdom of that knowledge speed is the priority. Agree
I think the issues we face during that type of modeling workflow is because of our approach to modeling. Blenderbros Workflow mostly consists of NGON modeling, which I think is not an efficent way to learn about modeling and topology. Defiently not saying this approach is bad, I still have their game ready asset course in my arsenal, but thats not how you will learn topology. And I also think mainly in the end it's not about software but about the principles and workflow you use. Respect and Regards
Free version of the Fusion360 is more powerful than Plasticity. Thereis a limitation that you can't edit more than 10 active projects, but you can easily get around that limitation.
It's true, Plasticity is very good, quite easy to use, but its problem is when exporting, the topology of its models is not very good, there are times when it superimposes polygons and this is somewhat complex when it comes to maps UVs
I wondered how long it would be before some Blender users took a good look at Plasticity. It's not really CAD per se, its a NURBS modeler. It handles boolean much better than Blender and allows you to enter dimension info much easier. Blender is still a much more powerful solution for a lot of things, but it's very early days for Plasticity. It needs to be on everyone's radar.
@@anonymouse527 in what way when doing a modeling command or drawing a sketch ? Plasticity is a rhino / free form clone using direct modeling and not a parametric modeler. Further the focus is quick concept modeling and not detailed engineering modeling. For that use Fusion360 SW ProE or Shapr3D
as a blender user, i HATE the fanatical behavior of the community.... jesus christ im scrolling through the comments and its unreal how many blender users are allergic to the IDEA of using another software in their workflow... guys blender isnt perfect nor the second coming of jesus in software form FAR from it, you call everyone else elitists but you're doing THE EXACT SAME THING other software can help you achieve better and faster results AND knowing multiple programs is amazing it makes you into a absolute weapon in whatever you want to do and as for the price if that is really an issue like.... you're on the internet im sure theres a way matey ;) especially for the most outrageous ones ( looking at you autodesk and maxon )
Wait for blender 4 … it will crush the cad modeling as. They are reconstructing the mesh algorithm since last September, so you might find this bevel problem gone to dust
I bought plasticity after the first couple hours in the trial. They way nurbs and curves work just fits how i think of objects. Plus the built in precision for 3d printing, and the License is Perpetual.
Blender is a free, open source, much lager community, infinitely more features... no reason to move to plasticity. Its a nice toy. I will use Inventor or Solidworks if I want a Nurbs based workflow. Wouldent be surprised if Blender added a Nurbs based modeling process at some point.
One ground breaking difference is with the buisness model, blender is open source and plasticity is proprietary and only on subscription model. So choose wisely
No, they don't ;) Machin3 said that Hypercursor is still polygonal modelling, seems for fast blocking and mesh editing in object mode, Plasticity is CAD. For me Blender +Plasticity is nice combo.
@@VGModelling I didn't mean through the same method, i meant practically. Anything that isn't flat surfaces + bevels ends up creating a shit load of triangles that aren't easily fixed and likely will need some manual retopology. If you're making objects for 3d printing it's amazing, but game assets or movie assets are going to need to be decimated because the poly counts are absurd. So machine's suite is still king.
I´ve watched the progress of plasticity and it caught my eye mostly because the workflow setup is very similar to blender. Imagine having both programs running in tandem for every object an dynamically change the tools back and forth.
I am in love with this sotfware, its a hard surface modleing heaven, although there are so many professional and artist friendly cad softwares out there but this thing is a beast, its smooth like butter, once u get a grip on this u can never go back to ploygon hard surface modeling, i learnt this in a week or so there are tons of tutorials already on YT. THe good thing is I can import STP file in 3ds max so there is no issue in surface. Thank u Josh fo highlighting this software.
Plasticity, is it kind of a "Rhino" software but with a cleaner and simpler UI ? look's nice to use, does it has an alternative to geometry node / grasshopper ?
Plasticity is absoluterly for you if you want to focus on modeling and concepting without any mind about shading and topology. No annoying and routine crap, just pure art!
I've used plasticity. Blender and plasticity are two completely different tools and it doesn't replace blender. I still use Blender. I can do everything that plasticity does in blender.
Many 3D modeling Softwares as there Game Engines out there, but Blender will always be numero Uno because its can do everything and is free, until I see a full 3D modeling with full blown Character Setup and simulation tools for free Blender will have no equal
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You can do the same things in Fusion 360, the free version. But as always, the exported model will be nasty and not ready for TV series or movies. I prefer use something like Fluent to do my prototype and after retopo. Slowest but full quad is the rules for TV series and movies (sometime for set, ngon is ok if no subD but it's rare).
since it doesn't use polygons, i think i'll have some issues when i'm trying to do some assets for a game objects, don't you think? so it's strictly for rendering apparently. or i'm missing something?
The Blender>Plasticity bridge isn't a rumor, the author of the program has already finished coding it, and apparently it will ship with the 1.3 release. There ARE ways to do parametic cad in blender from what i've seen on youtube, but that requires a paid addon that isn't feature-complete yet, and a lot of what you've said isn't possible in Blender isn't techincally true, it IS possible, but you need addons for it, most of which you probably have to pay for. That said though, plasticity is VERY good at hardsurface modeling, sure, it's not parametic like Fusion 360 or onshape or shapr3d, but it's a buy-and-keep software, very affordable, and isn't tied to the cloud, and you don't need a subscription to get at all it's features. It'll be interesting to see where Plasticity will be in 10 to 20 years, considering how Blender started out in the 90s as the brain child of a single guy developing it, and to where it has gotten now.
Correct. Which is why I prefer Blender. But some operations are simply not possible within Blender because it's built on an entirely different structure. Combining these two programs will give you the ultimate workflow.
is placity free? Blender is. A splendid project with thousands of people making valuable contributions. Everything has limitations, like your intelligence.
This seems like some really promising software, but when I tried it, moving around an object or the interface wasn't smooth at all. It would be awesome if a GPU could be utilized for Plasticity.
I worked with several different CAD softwares like (Inventor, Catia, AutoCAD, Solid Works, Cimatron) and almost all of them can achieve those kind of geometries without any problems most of them use Nurbs and not Polygons and therfore booleans problems, shading issues or terms like Ngons are not even a thing non the less Plasticity looks really interesting and I will probably have a look into it
If you don't need to texture, render or import your model to game engines or other geometry based 3D software (Substance, Maya, Blender, etc) then it's great. I'd definitely use it for designing parts for 3D printing or CAM.
Use both. Blender is my 90% tool and Plasticity helps with that other 10% of tricky models. You didn’t waste any money or time because you can achieve nearly identical results in both packages. Plasticity simply handles some operations better.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought "Seriously, I've been paying this guy hundreds of dollars over 2 years and now theres something better for me than blender?". But that wasn't the case. Great video. I just downloaded it and have been messing around. Its going to help me a lot with some parts on this star carrier I've been working on.
Nevertheless, I think I'll stay with Blender: it's free, open source - and most importantly: I've just graduated a video game designer, and when I was studying game graphics, we used Blender as a graphics software - so I'm familiar with Blender. I've also studied a number of Blender tutorials found in TH-cam on my own, so I think Blender is good enough for me. Once I find a job, they (employer) might have some other software - but until then, I'll make my 3D with Blender
Shouldn't you clarify that this video was sponsored by Plasticity?
Plasticity is based on Nurbs and Blender is based on Polygons. Back in my time in 2001 there were special tools in 3dsMax to do Nurbs modelling. Catia and Solidworks have always been Nurbs based as they were used for CAD and CAM (Cost more than a Car). But now the two worlds are merging. I think we underestimate the power of Blender, but you should try creating Booleans in 3dsmax Version 4 and 5. You will in 2001 2002 and you will never be able to do more than one Boolean. Plasticity is definitely the future for Nurbs and 3d printing. But it will not replace Blender.
Blender has nurbs too, the tools are not as deep as the poly tools, but blender does support nurbs , this video confused me.
Nurbs Surfaces lack UV Mapping properly like Poly surfaces. That is why you have to convert them to poly and retopologies before doing UVW unwrap. They are good for 3D printing as they are more precise in the form. But they are not great for Virtual space.
@@Mranshumansinghr you are fundamentally wrong. if you done nurbs modelling right way then the UVs automatically follows the surface and there is no need to do extra retopology work which is must in polygonal modelling work.
Fusion360? You have NURBs TSplines, and pretty much anything.
@@amigodesigns Yeah but Fusion 360 is not as good as Plasticity and it is very expensive for commercial use.
for the price I prefer 2000% blender, at least those who don't have money can create and not always let those who can afford softwares to express themselves and we can be very grateful to everyone who worked on this software to make it free.
If your bread and butter is 3D modeling something FAST then Plasticity is the way to go...
If you have the time to learn the processes for achieving the same things in Blender, there's no reason not to save the money.
of course you do if you are a free loading grifter
@@SteveJones-uf9hs what do you mean about grifter....like those who are using others creations with some AI's without paying anything to the creators except a few bucks to the AI service ?
I think 100$ for a one time payment is fair compared to other software these days. Some stuff in 3d costs way more than that on a monthly basis
@@joshuabornerthat’s not about if it’s fair or not free will always be more accessible than paid and blender is good enough for most amateurish works and for those going pro they will be more interested in industry standards instead
So… your saying CAD is better than blender?? They are completely different things! Poly modeling and vector modeling have their own ups and downs, there is no best ever choice. I swear you must be sponsored by plasticity😂 edit: yes, i watched the video to the end.
Yeah. This whole video is "Non-polygonal modeling program does some things better than polygonal modeling software". "Spoons are better for eating soup than forks, so spoons are the ultimate utensil!". And despite the repeated use of the word "impossible", nothing int his video is *impossible* in Blender, it's just more difficult.
Absolutely! Although some things he used as an example are actually really easy to do in blender once you know how.
Watch the video next time.
@@JoshGambrell i did dude, you can loft in blender easily
You called it the “ultimate” 3D software even from the start.
I can model literally everything in this video in blender. Not only can i give the resulting models a significantly better topology than plasticity can, I can add controls and nuance to every shape here that plasticity cannot. There is no such thing as an impossible shape in blender. If it is manifold - it can be made. Ill go head to head with plasticity anytime. Let anyone decide which version of a shape they would rather use - Mine or plasticity's.
Teach me your ways 😮
in the virtual world...try manufacturing it and you will be laughed at. The digital realm is going to be dominated by AI and you will be obsolete
@@weplaywax you think this very average 3d TH-camr got compensated to push Plasticity? LOL, nah, he just found some amazing software that's all. Company 'behind' Plasticity? It's one man...that's it...
@@unclemonty9506 "try manufacturing it" bitch please.
You sound like a digital boomer trying to look modern for the younglings by using AI randomly in your comment.
Get outta here.
@@unclemonty9506 the sadistic glee of people like you saying shit like that always gets me. You've never possessed a skill somebody else would envy, so now you think you're getting even.
You're not. You're still a jealous little cunt.
It is entirely possible to do these things in Blender, and get good shading, but Plasticity does have some bleeding-edge methods for getting it done, where Blender takes quite a few more steps to achieve what you did in a few clicks.
So it's inaccurate to say "impossible"... although it may *seem* impossible, because it does take more effort to achieve those effects in Blender in its current state.
You did a good job at highlighting some of the things Blender struggles with. Blender is constantly being updated and improved, so hopefully the awesome devs learn from Plasticity, Womp, and the people putting in the effort to create SDFs in Blender and they give us these tools out of the box soon.
Despite the limitations, we can’t beat “free” when choosing a cost effective piece of software unless the paid option really adds to your productivity.
I am fine with Blender so far (it has been over 20 years already!)
I only discovered Blender last year an I am amazed that it's been out for so long
Plasticity is fantastic but exports most often require a lot of cleaning up and manual work. Att least if you need to texture the objects.
Recommend keeping NGONs as you will get a mesh similar to BoxCutter/Hops. You can then remove edges to make a low-poly for baking and UV-ing.
What if i zremesh it
You can texture easily with ngons, FYI. This is a common misconception and completely false. The only thing us you need clean quad-based geo if for UVing sometimes.
If u r using 3ds max just import it in STP file and thrrough modifier increase the product quality of the surface of each object to production. And u will have a flawless surface.
You don't need to cleanup the mesh, just UV unwrap it and texture it.
Plasticity has hired so many TH-camrs to sell their product as I can see the "promotional" videos everywhere on TH-cam. Nope, I'll stay with Blender :p
Blender is free and is improving every blessed day
To me, this just highlights how awesome Blender is for a free software.
The fact that we see too many plasticity users say "it's better than blender" instead of sayin "hey this is so cool" shows the popularity of blender over these years. I'm not a cad modeler so I'm using blender and 3d max. but for cad users there are tons of options available.
IT"S NOT A CORRECT COMPARISION!
u should compare it with solidworks or autodesk invention. u see where I'm going with it?
still, nobody talks about nurbs in blender...
Cause they are useless
have you used nurbs in blender? they aren't exactly capable of doing much easily
@@spaceman-pe5je it's not that ez, i know it. but in softwares like rhino, it is extremely handy for CAD modelling, unlike blender which only had extremely basic nurbs modelling
@@KanzakiZD yeah but you were talking about blender not rhino 😭
@@spaceman-pe5je well that's why... everyone should care more about nurbs in blender
There's no way I'm switching to plasticity after using blender. Plus I'm beginning to get fond of using blender and now this video pop up.
Josh whole plasticity is much better than Rhino for model however I would rather use Fusion360 which has also the ability to use polygon subD geometry and convert to BREPS.
;)
You should call your video being about hard surface modeling - the title is misleading.
I've been using plasticity for a few months now and absolutely love it. Blender still has it's place and its very good and useful, but like 80% of my modeling time is in plasticity now.
Ok this seems a bit based on a misunderstanding of the purpose between these two pieces of software. One is a 3D modelling and animation software, and the other is a solid body modelling software. In other words, one is meant for virtual purposes (games, textures media, animation), and the other is meant for manufacturing purposes (with rendering features to preview final output).
Sure, there is some functional overlap, but there is a lot of functionality unique to either that they don't really compete.
A plasticity and blender workflow looks like a huge time saver! Thank you for covering this.
early adopter of Plasticity. the Parasolid geo kernel and near class A surfacing flow is rocket fuel. F360 + Plasticity + Blender - - > WarHammer 🚀 🔥
There is no software like Blender and all it"s functions.
2:20 Sweeps and Lofts *are* actually achievable inside Blender:
For sweeps you can use curves with custom profiles from other curves.
For Lofts you can use the "Bridge Edge Loops" action in the edge menu or the Loop Tools addon that comes built in to bridge between faces. You can tweak the number of cuts and twists between each form.
Square + Circle + Triangle + Rectangle. In Blender, there is no way you can achieve this with "Brigde Edge Loops" like Plasticity does. I never heard of this software before seeing this video, but I've tried for a few moments after that. I am not sure about the software's quality but the program in it's behind, looks promising. I believe eventually, 3D world will change it's algorithm from Polygons to something else. This can be a start.
@@jackpaynevc problem is, this is not a new invention, it has just been applied to classic polymodeling techniques.
things like NURBS curves and surfaces have been a thing for a while now, even catmull-clark subdivision could be basically considered similar
i sort of doubt this would make a difference outside of modeling, it'd be a LONG way before polygons are dropped, since they're the basis of the entire rendering pipeline, from z-test to object shaders, they're all based on vertices
this is a really interesting topic though, i kind of see a resemblance to the comparison between raster and vector images, but in 3d. Still, i'm very new to this
@@Throndronis i would love to see what you come up with replicating the loft between multiple shapes like in the video, in blender.
@@neuroblossom It's no problem at all. Make those shapes, line them up, give them the same number of vertices. With loop tools just click loft.
@neuroblossom Create the individual shapes by using a circle and then determine the segments for each shape. Then join them and then bridge loop them. That is how it's done in Blender. I am a newbie but I learned that 2 weeks ago.
Predatory pricing policy for a newbie company/individual.
$299 for a license, that too have updates included only for 1 year. So after 1 year you have to buy again.
What’s better? I’m buying a printer with my tax return.
Thought I would have to buy a workstation pc but starting to realize that’s probably not too necessary.
I have many ideas
Many
Conparing a free open source software against a paid software and claim it is better is just scam.
not a scam... this is the state of youtube... they are all paid shills
When you see title "better than Blender" it's always paid promotion for plasticity.
What a f****** dishonest chore to see.
Plasticity is in blender now and it’s combined both worlds 🙌🏽
I personally fail to see anything that's new in Plasticity vs Hardops/MeshMachine/Boxcutter. You do have to clean up the export from Plasticity anyways no?
No. Why would you clean the export? Depends on your pipeline and if you need clean topology.
Already paid $0 for Blender, can't spend another $99 on this.
I can't believe that paid professional CAD software is better than free modeling software targeted toward hobbyists.
I'd advise everyone to pick up plasticity gun course on artstation to get started. Pretty insane what it can do!
Arrimus one?
@@untitled795 Alexei Kolb hand gun course
I'd advise to read reviews of that course before purchase...
@@anab0lic well that's a bummer. Haven't got past the fundamentals part. Pixel fondue also has good tutorials too
Agreed, PIxel Fondue is probably the fastest way to get up to speed with Plasticity
Being a games programmer, at one time you could pay a one off price for modeling Software like $200 but now some companies want $200 a month and the product is NEVER yours. Blender and Sketchup is no use for solid models unless you spend hours fixing your model. I have just started on 3d printing and have not decided on a good product yet.
Plasticity really does deserve the praise it's getting, the ability to do whatever you want without breaking manifold of generated export objects is amazing for 3d printing. It's just so powerful and intuitive that I've not had a reason to keep struggling through freecad. Now I can have accuracy and aesthetics however I want them. I keep learning new features that make my experience more enjoyable and productive, while updates keep dropping that are pretty exciting. Bool and loft operations are just like magic, the ability to create an object out of the surface of other nearby selected surfaces just recently blew my mind. It's wild and is everything I was looking for and applied in a way that is concise and more importantly searchable. FYI blender loop cuts are 'isoparam' that is one that's super important to know!
funny that you say that these things are not possible in Blender, I do them mostly all the time, but between your examples and me is one difference I know of these Problems and avoid them from the beginning so I never enconter these Problems since my Models gets created with that in mind ^^
I always get skeptical when something is too good to be true. There's always a catch.
Don't know what to tell ya brother. It's the real deal. I've been using it. And I have zero percent sponsorships or kickbacks from their software.
@@JoshGambrell I appreciate your honesty sir. Consider me convinced!
The catch is the shading isn't always the best in more complex models when exporting from Plasticity, so the same problems mentioned at the start remain. It's a useful tool in the sense that it can help you make harder shapes faster and easier, but aside from that, it doesn't really solve much.
@@LuciusVulpes Shading has been my Achilles heal for some time now.
Plasticity is to blender, as illustrator is to photoshop.
Demonstrating certain comparisons between the output from the two will make people who don’t know what that distinction really means, infer that the vector software is radically superior.
At the end of the day, there will be things you will need to import your plasticity creations into blender for, and when you do, you’re going to find that, not only do certain edge features do not survive that journey with the same characteristics, but that native blender creations can achieve better resolved objects than their plasticity imported counterparts (although this will potentially be addressed in an update, since plasticity being math based, would imply that the current limitations were arbitrary assigned by the programmers).
Bro really got his mind blown when he found out about CAD software xD
Ever thought about Plasticity tutorials down the line, Josh? I really like the way you show/explain things, so that would be a tasty treat!
Maybe you should do simple tutorial about cleaning final mess? cause it's not finalized low poly model, and...what's about shading?))) here your downvote, great, that you do so much with thumbnail, vfx and so much fun name for the video. Afraid, what's before your _low, _high...
I use Blender for about 3 years now and while I don't model alot to need a specific software for it, it's awesome to see how there is such a variety of quality programs out there, to make the 3D workflow as customizable and practical as possible
But blender’s free
CAD is a very general term. Computer Aided Design.
That's all. You use it like it has a specific tool set list or software.
AUTOCAD is CAD however it can't do much of the things that Blender can do let alone Plasticity.
But Blender is free! All of those things can be done in Blender. Just takes a bit of work/thinking. For example, if you want to cut a circular hole into a sphere, don't start at the side of the sphere. If it's necessary to cut into the side, just work on the geometry a bit. You can't expect a software to do everything you want. The cube with the slope cut into the edge - just add two edge loops.
You know what isn't free? Time.
@@thorn- Indeed. Like all the time required to convert these Plasticity meshes into something useable.
I think you need to read the Blender Documentation on NURBS Curves and NURBS Surfaces.
Quit playing with baby toys and get Houdini.
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Let's be nice... Let's be nice...
I mean you're not but you don't have to say it.
Ob my god 😂
It’s hactually the step back. Knowing the topology issues makes you unlimited, although after ur getting all the wisdom of that knowledge speed is the priority. Agree
I think the issues we face during that type of modeling workflow is because of our approach to modeling. Blenderbros Workflow mostly consists of NGON modeling, which I think is not an efficent way to learn about modeling and topology. Defiently not saying this approach is bad, I still have their game ready asset course in my arsenal, but thats not how you will learn topology. And I also think mainly in the end it's not about software but about the principles and workflow you use. Respect and Regards
Bait title. Hardly ultimate modeling software. Does it have geometry nodes? How about sculpting? It does do booleans really well though.
It does surfacing too .
Free version of the Fusion360 is more powerful than Plasticity.
Thereis a limitation that you can't edit more than 10 active projects, but you can easily get around that limitation.
thank you for that, I almost donwload the free version but I if fusion is better is that ok
Is this not just comparing polygon based modeling vs CAD modeling? Ofc it doesn't run into issues causes by polygons, but once you export it, it will.
So in a nutshell Blender is the 3D Adobe Photoshop and Plasticity is the 3D Adobe Illustrator?
It's true, Plasticity is very good, quite easy to use, but its problem is when exporting, the topology of its models is not very good, there are times when it superimposes polygons and this is somewhat complex when it comes to maps UVs
I wondered how long it would be before some Blender users took a good look at Plasticity. It's not really CAD per se, its a NURBS modeler. It handles boolean much better than Blender and allows you to enter dimension info much easier. Blender is still a much more powerful solution for a lot of things, but it's very early days for Plasticity. It needs to be on everyone's radar.
Depends on what you want to model. Fusion 360 has been around for awhile and has been free of hobbyists
Does Plasticity have units now? If you wanted to create real prototypes and work in millimeters and degrees.
Plasticity which uses the Parasolid kernel is not really cad ? You are funny man.
@@cekuhnen um, if I remember correctly the developer told me that it's not possible to specify measurements.
@@anonymouse527 in what way when doing a modeling command or drawing a sketch ?
Plasticity is a rhino / free form clone using direct modeling and not a parametric modeler.
Further the focus is quick concept modeling and not detailed engineering modeling.
For that use Fusion360 SW ProE or Shapr3D
I'm a mechanical engineering and way better aware of CAD softwares...
But it's not fair to compare a CAD software with a polygon modeling software.
as a blender user, i HATE the fanatical behavior of the community....
jesus christ im scrolling through the comments and its unreal how many blender users are allergic to the IDEA of using another software in their workflow...
guys blender isnt perfect nor the second coming of jesus in software form FAR from it, you call everyone else elitists but you're doing THE EXACT SAME THING
other software can help you achieve better and faster results AND knowing multiple programs is amazing it makes you into a absolute weapon in whatever you want to do
and as for the price if that is really an issue like.... you're on the internet im sure theres a way matey ;) especially for the most outrageous ones ( looking at you autodesk and maxon )
Wait for blender 4 … it will crush the cad modeling as. They are reconstructing the mesh algorithm since last September, so you might find this bevel problem gone to dust
But have you tried CAD sketcher addon for Blender? Seems it fixes boolean operations, and makes it CAD like.
I have not
You know you have to tell your suscribers when a video is sposored, right?
Is it FREE like Blender? If no, then how better it functions is NOT the point. I'm broke!!!!!
I bought plasticity after the first couple hours in the trial. They way nurbs and curves work just fits how i think of objects. Plus the built in precision for 3d printing, and the License is Perpetual.
Blender is a free, open source, much lager community, infinitely more features... no reason to move to plasticity. Its a nice toy.
I will use Inventor or Solidworks if I want a Nurbs based workflow.
Wouldent be surprised if Blender added a Nurbs based modeling process at some point.
But, it's not free, and it's expensive I can't afford it.
One ground breaking difference is with the buisness model, blender is open source and plasticity is proprietary and only on subscription model. So choose wisely
False. It’s a $99 one time payment.
@@JoshGambrellits not longer 99$ I wonder what they added to rise the price
Rhino 3d is almost free, if you wanna work with CAD
Plasticity is really cool but ConjureSDF and hypercursor look like they're gonna accomplish everything that Plasticity can do all within blender.
No, they don't ;) Machin3 said that Hypercursor is still polygonal modelling, seems for fast blocking and mesh editing in object mode, Plasticity is CAD. For me Blender +Plasticity is nice combo.
@@VGModelling I didn't mean through the same method, i meant practically. Anything that isn't flat surfaces + bevels ends up creating a shit load of triangles that aren't easily fixed and likely will need some manual retopology. If you're making objects for 3d printing it's amazing, but game assets or movie assets are going to need to be decimated because the poly counts are absurd. So machine's suite is still king.
@@kulusic1Agree, and I'm curious about SDF and Hypercursor when they will be released.
I´ve watched the progress of plasticity and it caught my eye mostly because the workflow setup is very similar to blender. Imagine having both programs running in tandem for every object an dynamically change the tools back and forth.
Great software, but it's not free. Given time, Blender will incorporate these features into it's set.
I am in love with this sotfware, its a hard surface modleing heaven, although there are so many professional and artist friendly cad softwares out there but this thing is a beast, its smooth like butter, once u get a grip on this u can never go back to ploygon hard surface modeling, i learnt this in a week or so there are tons of tutorials already on YT.
THe good thing is I can import STP file in 3ds max so there is no issue in surface.
Thank u Josh fo highlighting this software.
with the cost of indie license of plasticity you can buy some plugins to do hard surface modelling easier in blender, isn't really a good option
You're comparing free software to paid software? Cool, great job.
changing programs that your channel was built on? not a good move...
Plasticity, is it kind of a "Rhino" software but with a cleaner and simpler UI ? look's nice to use, does it has an alternative to geometry node / grasshopper ?
Yeah, I use Rhino but it can be finicky at times. It's powerful though.
Plasticity is absoluterly for you if you want to focus on modeling and concepting without any mind about shading and topology. No annoying and routine crap, just pure art!
I've used plasticity. Blender and plasticity are two completely different tools and it doesn't replace blender. I still use Blender. I can do everything that plasticity does in blender.
Goddamn, the blender community is like a cult.
Many 3D modeling Softwares as there Game Engines out there, but Blender will always be numero Uno because its can do everything and is free, until I see a full 3D modeling with full blown Character Setup and simulation tools for free Blender will have no equal
You can do the same things in Fusion 360, the free version. But as always, the exported model will be nasty and not ready for TV series or movies. I prefer use something like Fluent to do my prototype and after retopo. Slowest but full quad is the rules for TV series and movies (sometime for set, ngon is ok if no subD but it's rare).
since it doesn't use polygons, i think i'll have some issues when i'm trying to do some assets for a game objects, don't you think? so it's strictly for rendering apparently. or i'm missing something?
oh, fuck me, it is possible. thanks for the tip, this is huge
I love plasticity. It’s so intuitive to use. Also amazing that we can buy and own it instead of annoying subscriptions
agreed. It's a game changer
The Blender>Plasticity bridge isn't a rumor, the author of the program has already finished coding it, and apparently it will ship with the 1.3 release. There ARE ways to do parametic cad in blender from what i've seen on youtube, but that requires a paid addon that isn't feature-complete yet, and a lot of what you've said isn't possible in Blender isn't techincally true, it IS possible, but you need addons for it, most of which you probably have to pay for.
That said though, plasticity is VERY good at hardsurface modeling, sure, it's not parametic like Fusion 360 or onshape or shapr3d, but it's a buy-and-keep software, very affordable, and isn't tied to the cloud, and you don't need a subscription to get at all it's features. It'll be interesting to see where Plasticity will be in 10 to 20 years, considering how Blender started out in the 90s as the brain child of a single guy developing it, and to where it has gotten now.
Well Blender is FREE! and as you pitched the issues with Blender can be overcome with knowledge such as proper topology.
Correct. Which is why I prefer Blender. But some operations are simply not possible within Blender because it's built on an entirely different structure. Combining these two programs will give you the ultimate workflow.
is placity free? Blender is. A splendid project with thousands of people making valuable contributions. Everything has limitations, like your intelligence.
seeing as it uses Nurbs over polys, plasticity isn't really viable for game assets no?
This seems like some really promising software, but when I tried it, moving around an object or the interface wasn't smooth at all. It would be awesome if a GPU could be utilized for Plasticity.
I'm so glad you covered plasticity. Nurbs based workflow is fantastic
different software, different algorithm
Its node-locked BS (locked to however many computers). Thats reason enough to pass on this and just get better at Blender.
I worked with several different CAD softwares like (Inventor, Catia, AutoCAD, Solid Works, Cimatron) and almost all of them can achieve those kind of geometries without any problems
most of them use Nurbs and not Polygons and therfore booleans problems, shading issues or terms like Ngons are not even a thing
non the less Plasticity looks really interesting and I will probably have a look into it
It IS worth noting that Plasticity can be purchased for $100, a whole lot less than the apps you mention above.
I was wondering when I was gonna see something from you on Plasticity. Glad to see it, its workflow is incredible and its only going to get better.
Feel like I wasted time/money on blender... plasticity does everything I wanted blender to do without all the headaches.
If you don't need to texture, render or import your model to game engines or other geometry based 3D software (Substance, Maya, Blender, etc) then it's great. I'd definitely use it for designing parts for 3D printing or CAM.
Use both. Blender is my 90% tool and Plasticity helps with that other 10% of tricky models. You didn’t waste any money or time because you can achieve nearly identical results in both packages. Plasticity simply handles some operations better.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought "Seriously, I've been paying this guy hundreds of dollars over 2 years and now theres something better for me than blender?". But that wasn't the case. Great video. I just downloaded it and have been messing around. Its going to help me a lot with some parts on this star carrier I've been working on.
Thanks for actually watching the video. It’s a fantastic tool to add to your arsenal. I’ll be using both personally.
You can use the program plasticity , but Blender is still the strongest on several front
Too bold of a statement. I've been using Blender for over 12 years and haven't seen a better replacement yet
You left out the $100+ pricetag that comes with this software....
all the features in Plasticity are available for years in Rhino, or Fusion 360, i don't understand the difference
Out of curiosity, why not just use Fusion? Hobby lisence is free.
Nevertheless, I think I'll stay with Blender: it's free, open source - and most importantly: I've just graduated a video game designer, and when I was studying game graphics, we used Blender as a graphics software - so I'm familiar with Blender. I've also studied a number of Blender tutorials found in TH-cam on my own, so I think Blender is good enough for me. Once I find a job, they (employer) might have some other software - but until then, I'll make my 3D with Blender
Is Plasticity as light as Blender?
Pretty cool your putting the spotlight on plasticity.
goodbye to mesh machine, hardops, and boxcutters all these add-ons are Fired the future kicks in!❤🔥😃😃
Amazing, you discovered CAD, Columbus!!! 😂
material works isnt listed ? is it really out yet? couldn't find it on the blender market too :(
Releasing in July