Il pensais que Claire ne reviendrait jamais il avait enfin retrouvé une raison de vivre mais il n'y a pas de hasard Loghaire lui était destinée comme Franck a repris Claire quand elle est revenue c'est le fil de l'histoire et qui fait qu'ils se sont retrouvés leur amour l'un pour l'autre est plus fort que tout j'adore Outlander
In questa puntata c'è rabbia frustazione , gelosia rimpianto x essere stati separati vent'anni e non aver condiviso la vita insieme e comunque jemie quando dice a claire che è stato un periodo speciale il matrimonio con laghory è come se si volesse rivalere della frase di claire che gli dice : sono felice che frank abbia cresciuto brianna in quell'affermazione penso che jemie abbia sentito veramente il vuoto di non aver potuto crescere sua figlia insieme all'unica donna che lui abbia veramente amato e naturalmente claire che non si arrende mai gli dice : in fondo a boston avevo una bella vita , avevo amici una bella casa , la carriera ma chi me l' ha fatto fare di lasciare tutto x ritrovare la chimera di un'amore che non è indissolubile come lei pensava !
Same that’s the reason I stopped watching the show. Season 2 started and I felt the entire show changed so I checked the future plot and saw he married her and I gave up on this series that was enough to ruin it for me. It could have been anyone else he married but her of all people. I just can’t put in the time to be disappointed like this.
And he couldn’t stand her either. But he put himself through that so two innocent children would be better off and have some stable Father figure in their lives. Surely that shows how much of a good person he was?
You are all judging Claire for being angry, but the truth is that she's angry because he didn't tell her (and he had plenty of opportunities), not because he married another woman.
And because it’s the woman who tried to have her burned to death at the stake, just because she was jealous. I know she was just 13 or so at the time, but that is evil
Jamie's basically married both his wives because they were charity cases. It's nice that at least one of them was a woman he genuinely wanted. Sad that the second was just him trying to fill a hole in his heart.
I know many men who've lost a wife and child for reasons and still wanted that family setting. Everyone hates his actions but I stand by the man as he wanted a family and he was getting older so I'm glad he found one. If you hate him for marrying a helpless woman and helping her kids, remember that Claire fucked and married a man while we was gone for only 3 years whereas Jamie took 15+ years to get over Claire
I don't begrudge Jamie for wanting a family and to try and fill that empty place inside of him, but Claire does have a right to be bothered him marrying the woman that tried to have her KILLED. Most people would be bothered by this.
It's not that he remarried. It's who he remarried with that people have an issue. Claire and Laoghaire have despised each other since she married Jamie and Laoghaire tried to have her killed. Also Claire had to remarry for protection as she would've been arrested for espionage. She also only slept with John because they were both drunk. Considering she and Frank hadn't had relations in years because she was in love with Jamie says a lot about her. In the time she was gone, Jamie had relations with 3 different women. I know Geneva was a special case but he admitted to enjoying it.
In his own defense, Jamie had to live again. He was separated from his wife and unborn child for 20 years, went through hell and back over and over. All he ever wanted was a family to fill the void and live again. He loved Laoghaire's daughters, even though he could never love that selfish immature woman. I don't blame him for marrying her, even though he was under pressure from his sister. All I know is that Jamie had to live again.
@@SagebrushRambles exactly. book jamie is much more forgivable bc he didnt know it was laoghaire who had claire tried as a witch but tv show jamie knew, which is some form of betrayal. i wouldnt mind if tv show jamie tried to move forward but seriously, out of all the women… why the fuck her
Nah him marrying anyone would still be upsetting for me. It's one thing for him to try and fill up his loneliness with meaningless women. It's another to remarry.
Imagine if he marry a decent enough woman. He could fall in love again and was on the fence when Claire came back. He cannot justify leaving his new wife just to be with Claire again if that happens.
Jamie marrying Laoghaire is the same thing as if Claire married Black Jack. Kids aren't a good enough reason to marry someone, especially if that someone tried to kill the wife that you claimed to have loved so much. This just sullies the whole thing for me. I feel so bad for Claire.
Still, when she went back to her time she was still frank's wife, and she had sex with him, she stull.loved him, even if yes he didn't try to kill jamie. But love is complicated.
@@ciku5179 she still loved Frank, that love just changed, and he was her first love, so she always held Frank in her heart. I mean, she still wears his ring.
That may happen yet after reading Diana gabaldon's "Written in my own Heart's Blood". Remember they showed a scene of Faith alive in the begining of the episode "Faith" in America , when it was Briana, Claire was pregnant with when she went back through the stones not Faith. The book has leads in it to suggest so. Let's hope theres going to be a precal.
Also remember at the beginning , the weightless car crash scene that Claire was remembering as she went through the stones. I think that scene will be crucial to remember.
It looks as if Laoghaire’s daughter is played by the sister of the actress who plays Laoghaire. Haven’t checked to verify but the two actresses carry a very strong resemblance.
I am not upset that he married again, I don't like the girl, but my heart broke that he never got to be a father for Brianna, he wasn't able to hold faith and he can't even be apart of his boys life as his father, he wed Laoghaire cause he was lonely he loved Laoghaire's daughters he is a kind man who wants a family, lord knows the hell he went though, but to not tell Claire after shed been truthful with him? Yes I agree 100% that was cowardly, Claire up to this point has been truthful to Jamie and to Frank
I don’t know why. But I couldn’t continue this after the 20 years of separation between these two! It didn’t feel authentic anymore. And it sucks cuz season 1 and 2 kicked ass! Does anyone else feel the same?
Yeah, it's awful now. The plot went out the window and the quality of the script is horrendous. It got especially bad when they travelled to America. And now the show is focusing on Brianna and Roger as the main couple and it's almost unwatchable. Idk. Just not the show I started watching.
I've watched them all several times and still love it. I do miss the season 1 feel of Scotland but really love the evolution of their homestead and the contribution to the birth of a new nation. The acting is incredible and the character growth is amazing. Cant wait for the next season. I recommend reading the series also. I'm now awaiting the latest book coming out in November. I did not think I would be alive to read it. I had a double lung transplant. Not being able to read the next book was a big bummer for me. I'm glad I made it and will be able to enjoy another installment on the continuing developments of the characters and the new nation, LOL!!
He did it for the children and because he wanted a family, he thought he’d never see Claire again. How can anyone not look passed that fact? If anything, surely it makes him a good man? He never WANTED to marry another woman but he did it anyway for the security and well-being of the kids. If anyone couldn’t forgive him for that, then they’re extremely selfish and short sighted.
Exactly, people back then were much more pragmatic and less into fantasy. Back then, a family meant the difference between starving and living. Family was security.
Cheryl Welch Its so sweet see Jamie with children with Willie, Fergus, Ian, Joan and Marsali. I hope before season 3 ends or in season 4 we get see him with adult Brianna.
I don't have a problem with Jamie marrying someone while she was gone but she had a right to be bothered that Jamie married someone who tried to kill her
Anja Cruse Yeah I've noticed they've used a lot of s1 music this season, which is lovely. But I'm really excited for this season's soundtrack especially since John's theme sounds so good!!
And I am absolutely curious about the new music when they will be at the West Indies with Jamaica and so on. Would be nice to hear something different than we know it already, maybe something with a southmaerican touch? The OST is again on my wishlist, Bear McCreary is a great talent!
Jamie is such a family man. A woman's man! Who cares what he did. He wanted to be a father long before Claire wanted to be mother. He lost his firstborn, had to part from his baby and his wife, part from his son that had brought him some hope within the hopelessness... He is such a tragic character. I am so in love with this man, which bothers me because he is fictional, therefore rather aspirational, not real!
I understand the reason why Jamie had married Laoghaire. Although Jamie wanted to live again, Marsali and Joanne gave him a chance to be a father to them and love them as a father. I think he felt it was easy to marry Laoghaire, because he knew that he never loved Laoghaire, he was contented with companionship (although there is not much of companionship, for a woman who has been obsessed with Jamie and wanting Jamie to be hers, instead of reveling her victory, she shrink away from him, that's question for another time), if Jamie wanted love again, he would court different woman and marry for love, I think he felt that he had married different woman, if she had loved him but he didn't love her, it would be heartbreaking and disappointment on each side, and he wouldn't want to rob the woman's chance to have true love. I think he married Laoghaire even knowing that what she did to Claire, he knew himself that he would never loved Laoghaire.
@@thebosfam8887 Sure, it would be heartbreaking and disappointing on Laoghaire and her girls, I can understand. But the way I think about Laoghaire, she wasn't in love with Jamie. She was obsessed with him. I can sympathize her being abused by her husband, in one way, I feel sorry for her, but on the another way, I don't like Laoghaire for what she did. To one think that Laoghaire would grow up during those 20 years with life experiences, she would be mature emotionally and mentally, but she didn't. It showed that she was stuck in her dream and past phases. Laoghaire believes that Jamie has forgiven her and loved her, like the same way when Jamie had saved her from her punishment. Many reasons why Jamie married Laoghaire, it's never for her. Jamie married Laoghaire to save her daughters and at the same time, he can have a chance to be a father, a role that it has been forcibly taken from him. If Laoghaire didn't have children, would Jamie had married her? If anything, if Laoghaire had been widowed, no children, about to lose her home, she would move to her brother's home. Unless Jenny forcibly arranged marriage between Jamie and Laoghaire, Jenny would encourage Jamie to save Laoghaire by using his hero complex and at the same time it would be Jenny would come out as a good woman and good manipulator. As for Jamie, he would be unhappily married to Laoghaire, no matter how contented he would be, it would be a loveless and unhappy marriage. He wouldn't love her, and as for Laoghaire, it would be like a dream come true. The result would be the same, she still shrink away from Jamie and Jamie, being kind and gentle, would respect her distance. The marriage between them would be annulled. If Jamie had wanted love again, he would married again for love. He would court another woman or widow with children, but considering how much he loved Claire, he knew that he couldn't love the other woman the same. For Jamie's love, it's like give it all or none. If Jamie had found love with someone else, married her and then Claire returned, then Jamie would be torn between two women. It's like the quote from the movie Ever After, if the first woman is your true love, but if the first one dies, the second woman is your true love, but if the first one returns and is in the same room with the second one, then which one is your true love? First one or the second one? So, Jamie had married another woman, not Laoghaire, let's say the other woman loved Jamie and he didn't love her, at the end the woman would be heartbroken. And Jamie wouldn't want to rob the other woman's chance of happiness. Did Jamie love Geneva ? No, he didn't. But were a chance for him to love her ? I don't know. For Jamie's love, it's either I will give it my all to you or you get none.
Ok I'm going to through a spanner in the works now. I'm looking back at the first show prior to Claire going through the stones. Maybe Claire didn"t go through the stones maybe she had a car accident, remember the weightless car accident scene. They wouldn"t have shown that for nothing. Maybe that highlander looking up in her window wasn't a ghost???
Fidèle à lui-même Il a voulu reprendre le gout de vivre pensant qu'il ne reverrai jamais Claire il s'est tourné vers Lyrie elle avait des enfants il aime les enfants et au début Lyrie pensait qu'il lui était destiné de même Claire pensait faire sa vie avec Franck mais le destin en a décidé autrement 🌠🌠
The truth nobody want to hear is that this story is written by Claire from her perspective. Laoghaire was not the other women Claire was. They where in love but could not be together because of Jamies calling. This is why his sister don’t like Claire. Claire makes up these story about Laoghaire because she can’t bear her man being in love with someone else. The truth is she was gone for 20 years. His life was with Laoghaire these children are his. His destiny lies with Claire because of the calling to save Scotland, this calling is something Laoghaire stands for as well. Her life is very tough. Jamie lies for Claire because he needs her and can’t tell her the truth.
He was selfc entered I and either ignorant, unlikely, or allowed h😮to be used by laoghaire and her daughters and by Jenny. In any case he was cruel to Claire and his actions and behavior were inexcusable. How and by whom will he be held accountable?
Jemie aveva voglia di essere padre peccato però che tutta questa voglia gli sia sparita dopo nemmeno un mese di matrimonio con loghary lasciando baracca e burattini e trasferendosi a Edimburgo nemmeno vicino casa no il più lontano possibile questa è la coerenza di jemie!
men just don't get it, do they. His sister jenny pressured him into it. This is what is wrong with people, let them in due time figure out how to live their lives. Some people just don't get, a wedding ceremony doesn't equate to a marriage, especially one done under pressure. This wasn't just any woman, but the one who had claire framed for witchcraft. Jenny has no right to be showing her an attitude it was her who was at fault. In the book she had a one on one chat and was trying to avoid claire, because she knew she was guilty for pressuring jamie. She told claire that when laoghaire and jamie were getting married, she saw a vision and saw claire standing in between them at the alter...so she knew what she was doing was wrong. Jamie should have been more mindful of who he was marrying, and also in the book jamie does not tell claire right away about his illegitimate son.
Should have married the widow who came to the cave, gave him a hair cut, shave and some "exercise". She was young enough to give him children if he was so interested in that. She wasn't his love like Clair but she would have warmed the bed on those cold nights in Scotland.
Samauri Momo..... im glad you said that becsuse she is and ive thought that through this whole show and why i dont care for claire. Its all about her !!!! And forget anyone else's feelings and all.
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Il pensais que Claire ne reviendrait jamais il avait enfin retrouvé une raison de vivre mais il n'y a pas de hasard Loghaire lui était destinée comme Franck a repris Claire quand elle est revenue c'est le fil de l'histoire et qui fait qu'ils se sont retrouvés leur amour l'un pour l'autre est plus fort que tout j'adore Outlander
Superbement bien résumé.
C est juste une fiction.bien ecrites. Le livre est encore mieux.
In questa puntata c'è rabbia frustazione , gelosia rimpianto x essere stati separati vent'anni e non aver condiviso la vita insieme e comunque jemie quando dice a claire che è stato un periodo speciale il matrimonio con laghory è come se si volesse rivalere della frase di claire che gli dice : sono felice che frank abbia cresciuto brianna in quell'affermazione penso che jemie abbia sentito veramente il vuoto di non aver potuto crescere sua figlia insieme all'unica donna che lui abbia veramente amato e naturalmente claire che non si arrende mai gli dice : in fondo a boston avevo una bella vita , avevo amici una bella casa , la carriera ma chi me l' ha fatto fare di lasciare tutto x ritrovare la chimera di un'amore che non è indissolubile come lei pensava !
I'm not upset with him for getting married. I'm upset it was Laoghaire. Can't stand her.
Same that’s the reason I stopped watching the show. Season 2 started and I felt the entire show changed so I checked the future plot and saw he married her and I gave up on this series that was enough to ruin it for me. It could have been anyone else he married but her of all people. I just can’t put in the time to be disappointed like this.
And he couldn’t stand her either. But he put himself through that so two innocent children would be better off and have some stable Father figure in their lives. Surely that shows how much of a good person he was?
She was something that reminded him of his past when everything in his life just kept changing and screwing him over. Get over it.
Nemo Fish You get over it.
Oh come on, if he hadn't married her then we'd have never gotten that huge rejection at Lallybroch after Claire's return.
I liked that Jamie fell in love with the idea of being a father again, even if only a step-dad (foster dad to Fergus)
You are all judging Claire for being angry, but the truth is that she's angry because he didn't tell her (and he had plenty of opportunities), not because he married another woman.
He married the woman who tried to have her killed.
And because it’s the woman who tried to have her burned to death at the stake, just because she was jealous. I know she was just 13 or so at the time, but that is evil
Um I think the fact that he married the woman who tried to have Claire killed may have had something to do with it
I only ever judged Claire because of her awful behavior towards Frank when she returned to her own time. That's my only serious gripe with Claire.
Jamie's basically married both his wives because they were charity cases.
It's nice that at least one of them was a woman he genuinely wanted. Sad that the second was just him trying to fill a hole in his heart.
I know many men who've lost a wife and child for reasons and still wanted that family setting. Everyone hates his actions but I stand by the man as he wanted a family and he was getting older so I'm glad he found one. If you hate him for marrying a helpless woman and helping her kids, remember that Claire fucked and married a man while we was gone for only 3 years whereas Jamie took 15+ years to get over Claire
AT LEAST CLAIRE DIDNT TRY TO KILL LEG HAIR
I don't begrudge Jamie for wanting a family and to try and fill that empty place inside of him, but Claire does have a right to be bothered him marrying the woman that tried to have her KILLED. Most people would be bothered by this.
I agree! In my perspective, Jamie had to live again. Claire had to live again too.
It's the fact that he kept Claire in the dark about it, that made it all so much worse.
It's not that he remarried. It's who he remarried with that people have an issue. Claire and Laoghaire have despised each other since she married Jamie and Laoghaire tried to have her killed. Also Claire had to remarry for protection as she would've been arrested for espionage. She also only slept with John because they were both drunk. Considering she and Frank hadn't had relations in years because she was in love with Jamie says a lot about her. In the time she was gone, Jamie had relations with 3 different women. I know Geneva was a special case but he admitted to enjoying it.
In his own defense, Jamie had to live again. He was separated from his wife and unborn child for 20 years, went through hell and back over and over. All he ever wanted was a family to fill the void and live again. He loved Laoghaire's daughters, even though he could never love that selfish immature woman. I don't blame him for marrying her, even though he was under pressure from his sister. All I know is that Jamie had to live again.
Yes his position and decisions are understandable.
It's not that he married it's that he married HER.
@@SagebrushRambles exactly. book jamie is much more forgivable bc he didnt know it was laoghaire who had claire tried as a witch but tv show jamie knew, which is some form of betrayal. i wouldnt mind if tv show jamie tried to move forward but seriously, out of all the women… why the fuck her
He shouldn't have married laoghaire. She's immature, he can marry anyone else but not her.
Nah him marrying anyone would still be upsetting for me. It's one thing for him to try and fill up his loneliness with meaningless women. It's another to remarry.
it’s still upsetting but he did deserve happiness, just wish it would’ve have been anyone and literally ANYONE other than laoghaire
Amy you expected him to be lonely for 20 years? Claire still had a husband and daughter. He had nothing.
Yall are too into this show. I dont like her nor do i really like claire but it is just a show.
Imagine if he marry a decent enough woman. He could fall in love again and was on the fence when Claire came back. He cannot justify leaving his new wife just to be with Claire again if that happens.
Jamie marrying Laoghaire is the same thing as if Claire married Black Jack. Kids aren't a good enough reason to marry someone, especially if that someone tried to kill the wife that you claimed to have loved so much. This just sullies the whole thing for me. I feel so bad for Claire.
Still, when she went back to her time she was still frank's wife, and she had sex with him, she stull.loved him, even if yes he didn't try to kill jamie. But love is complicated.
@@ellac9039 she never loved him the same as before. She LOVED frank. past tense. Jamie was her true love and one she could never forget.
@@ciku5179 she still loved Frank, that love just changed, and he was her first love, so she always held Frank in her heart. I mean, she still wears his ring.
I know it's was stupid of him
this so messed up!
How is it those sweet girls have such an immature hussy for a mother? Jamie must have loved them so, the way he never got to love his blood children
Marsali and Joan have the cutest smiles
I was just thinking, if only that was faith and brianna he was dancing with 😢
That may happen yet after reading Diana gabaldon's "Written in my own Heart's Blood". Remember they showed a scene of Faith alive in the begining of the episode "Faith" in America , when it was Briana, Claire was pregnant with when she went back through the stones not Faith. The book has leads in it to suggest so. Let's hope theres going to be a precal.
Also remember at the beginning , the weightless car crash scene that Claire was remembering as she went through the stones. I think that scene will be crucial to remember.
@@celticgypsy6067 Why? Please tell?
@@celticgypsy6067 im reading that book now and dont see any indication of that ...yet . But im little more than hslfway thru it.
@@ChickPeaChannel .... me too but my l have different theory on this show.
It looks as if Laoghaire’s daughter is played by the sister of the actress who plays Laoghaire. Haven’t checked to verify but the two actresses carry a very strong resemblance.
They aren't related but do look alike.
SanFranGirl1982 no it is not nel's sister
I came here to see if anyone else noticed. Had to check if it was the same actress.
I noticed that too, what a neat coincedence.
Same with Tobias (Frank/ Jonathan Randall) and whoever it was who played Alex Randall. Heck, they look so alike!
I am not upset that he married again, I don't like the girl, but my heart broke that he never got to be a father for Brianna, he wasn't able to hold faith and he can't even be apart of his boys life as his father, he wed Laoghaire cause he was lonely he loved Laoghaire's daughters he is a kind man who wants a family, lord knows the hell he went though, but to not tell Claire after shed been truthful with him? Yes I agree 100% that was cowardly, Claire up to this point has been truthful to Jamie and to Frank
I don’t know why. But I couldn’t continue this after the 20 years of separation between these two! It didn’t feel authentic anymore. And it sucks cuz season 1 and 2 kicked ass! Does anyone else feel the same?
Yeah, it's awful now. The plot went out the window and the quality of the script is horrendous. It got especially bad when they travelled to America. And now the show is focusing on Brianna and Roger as the main couple and it's almost unwatchable. Idk. Just not the show I started watching.
No, I don't!
Yes I do,
I've watched them all several times and still love it. I do miss the season 1 feel of Scotland but really love the evolution of their homestead and the contribution to the birth of a new nation. The acting is incredible and the character growth is amazing. Cant wait for the next season. I recommend reading the series also. I'm now awaiting the latest book coming out in November. I did not think I would be alive to read it. I had a double lung transplant. Not being able to read the next book was a big bummer for me. I'm glad I made it and will be able to enjoy another installment on the continuing developments of the characters and the new nation, LOL!!
Jamie is already old and claire is getting old, and its time for the next generation.
He did it for the children and because he wanted a family, he thought he’d never see Claire again. How can anyone not look passed that fact? If anything, surely it makes him a good man? He never WANTED to marry another woman but he did it anyway for the security and well-being of the kids. If anyone couldn’t forgive him for that, then they’re extremely selfish and short sighted.
Yup. Hate all these idiots judging him for this.
Exactly, people back then were much more pragmatic and less into fantasy. Back then, a family meant the difference between starving and living. Family was security.
@@nemofish3504 .... i know right !
@@TJ-it1bm .... family was everything back then
So you'd marry someone to tried to have someone you loved burned to death out of pure spite? Nice.
This scene and the other flashback (can’t remember what it was now) made me cry in the ep. 😭❤️
The tears for me was when came to Lollybrook and remember him reciting the poem about giving her a 1000 kisses.
thank you so much!!
Cheryl Welch
Its so sweet see Jamie with children with Willie, Fergus, Ian, Joan and Marsali. I hope before season 3 ends or in season 4 we get see him with adult Brianna.
Maybe he gets his wish by reading Written in my own heart's Blood. Family never dies. Love transcending through time.
I don't have a problem with Jamie marrying someone while she was gone but she had a right to be bothered that Jamie married someone who tried to kill her
Hogmanay what a besutiful tradition
It's still not good enough for me that he got manipulated by Leary with her kids ...... Stop calling him daddy he is not
DAMN STRAIGHT
Step fathers and mothers can be as much your parents as your real are even more sometimes. I've called my stepmom mom since I was five
What’s the music playing when Jamie’s dancing with the girls? It’s beautiful. The music over the memory, I mean. :)
MagicalMusic34 I believe it's Tale of the Tusks from the Season one volume 2 soundtrack 😊
TYSVM!!! That´s absolutely right and it´s such a wonderful theme! Bear McCreary did an amazing job, to put in that "old" song from S1!!! I love it!
Anja Cruse Yeah I've noticed they've used a lot of s1 music this season, which is lovely. But I'm really excited for this season's soundtrack especially since John's theme sounds so good!!
And I am absolutely curious about the new music when they will be at the West Indies with Jamaica and so on. Would be nice to hear something different than we know it already, maybe something with a southmaerican touch? The OST is again on my wishlist, Bear McCreary is a great talent!
Person Finch Thankyou!!
Could someone please tell me what's the song in 1:50 , I was bursting into tears the moment I had heard it.
Jamie is such a family man. A woman's man! Who cares what he did. He wanted to be a father long before Claire wanted to be mother. He lost his firstborn, had to part from his baby and his wife, part from his son that had brought him some hope within the hopelessness...
He is such a tragic character. I am so in love with this man, which bothers me because he is fictional, therefore rather aspirational, not real!
Neal diamond singing in outlander
I understand the reason why Jamie had married Laoghaire. Although Jamie wanted to live again, Marsali and Joanne gave him a chance to be a father to them and love them as a father. I think he felt it was easy to marry Laoghaire, because he knew that he never loved Laoghaire, he was contented with companionship (although there is not much of companionship, for a woman who has been obsessed with Jamie and wanting Jamie to be hers, instead of reveling her victory, she shrink away from him, that's question for another time), if Jamie wanted love again, he would court different woman and marry for love, I think he felt that he had married different woman, if she had loved him but he didn't love her, it would be heartbreaking and disappointment on each side, and he wouldn't want to rob the woman's chance to have true love. I think he married Laoghaire even knowing that what she did to Claire, he knew himself that he would never loved Laoghaire.
this is an interesting concept... "he married her because he knew he wouldn't be spoiling someone else's true love"
@@thebosfam8887 Sure, it would be heartbreaking and disappointing on Laoghaire and her girls, I can understand. But the way I think about Laoghaire, she wasn't in love with Jamie. She was obsessed with him. I can sympathize her being abused by her husband, in one way, I feel sorry for her, but on the another way, I don't like Laoghaire for what she did. To one think that Laoghaire would grow up during those 20 years with life experiences, she would be mature emotionally and mentally, but she didn't. It showed that she was stuck in her dream and past phases. Laoghaire believes that Jamie has forgiven her and loved her, like the same way when Jamie had saved her from her punishment. Many reasons why Jamie married Laoghaire, it's never for her. Jamie married Laoghaire to save her daughters and at the same time, he can have a chance to be a father, a role that it has been forcibly taken from him. If Laoghaire didn't have children, would Jamie had married her? If anything, if Laoghaire had been widowed, no children, about to lose her home, she would move to her brother's home. Unless Jenny forcibly arranged marriage between Jamie and Laoghaire, Jenny would encourage Jamie to save Laoghaire by using his hero complex and at the same time it would be Jenny would come out as a good woman and good manipulator. As for Jamie, he would be unhappily married to Laoghaire, no matter how contented he would be, it would be a loveless and unhappy marriage. He wouldn't love her, and as for Laoghaire, it would be like a dream come true. The result would be the same, she still shrink away from Jamie and Jamie, being kind and gentle, would respect her distance. The marriage between them would be annulled.
If Jamie had wanted love again, he would married again for love. He would court another woman or widow with children, but considering how much he loved Claire, he knew that he couldn't love the other woman the same. For Jamie's love, it's like give it all or none. If Jamie had found love with someone else, married her and then Claire returned, then Jamie would be torn between two women. It's like the quote from the movie Ever After, if the first woman is your true love, but if the first one dies, the second woman is your true love, but if the first one returns and is in the same room with the second one, then which one is your true love? First one or the second one?
So, Jamie had married another woman, not Laoghaire, let's say the other woman loved Jamie and he didn't love her, at the end the woman would be heartbroken. And Jamie wouldn't want to rob the other woman's chance of happiness.
Did Jamie love Geneva ? No, he didn't. But were a chance for him to love her ? I don't know.
For Jamie's love, it's either I will give it my all to you or you get none.
I actually don’t blame Jamie at all for this
Ok I'm going to through a spanner in the works now. I'm looking back at the first show prior to Claire going through the stones. Maybe Claire didn"t go through the stones maybe she had a car accident, remember the weightless car accident scene. They wouldn"t have shown that for nothing. Maybe that highlander looking up in her window wasn't a ghost???
Interesting thought. Ive had yhought about other areas like Master Raymond and the Count Germaine and Faith and how they all intersect
I thought her name was spelled like leerie 😂😂😂or learie perhaps even leary I never saw that spelling coming
yeah Irish uses completely different sounds in regards to a lot of letters in our alphabet.
I spell it how it sounds , leerie. But thats my spelling dont care. Its simple.
Hogmanay is my favourite in Scotland.
Fidèle à lui-même Il a voulu reprendre le gout de vivre pensant qu'il ne reverrai jamais Claire il s'est tourné vers Lyrie elle avait des enfants il aime les enfants et au début Lyrie pensait qu'il lui était destiné de même Claire pensait faire sa vie avec Franck mais le destin en a décidé autrement 🌠🌠
He got Marsali out of it so all is good 👍
In the TV series he knew that Laoghaire tried to kill Claire that is what is so wrong!
But why he married ??
If he married anyone but Laoghaire then fine
O youtube não é dublado, é uma pena.
The truth nobody want to hear is that this story is written by Claire from her perspective. Laoghaire was not the other women Claire was. They where in love but could not be together because of Jamies calling. This is why his sister don’t like Claire. Claire makes up these story about Laoghaire because she can’t bear her man being in love with someone else. The truth is she was gone for 20 years. His life was with Laoghaire these children are his. His destiny lies with Claire because of the calling to save Scotland, this calling is something Laoghaire stands for as well. Her life is very tough. Jamie lies for Claire because he needs her and can’t tell her the truth.
His marrying laoghaire was a disgrace and cruel thing to do to claire.it was inexcusable.
He was selfc entered I and either ignorant, unlikely, or allowed h😮to be used by laoghaire and her daughters and by Jenny. In any case he was cruel to Claire and his actions and behavior were inexcusable. How and by whom will he be held accountable?
See above c😮, which I couldn’t post. Please ensure that it is posted
Jemie aveva voglia di essere padre peccato però che tutta questa voglia gli sia sparita dopo nemmeno un mese di matrimonio con loghary lasciando baracca e burattini e trasferendosi a Edimburgo nemmeno vicino casa no il più lontano possibile questa è la coerenza di jemie!
Daha 2.sezondayim başlıktan spoi yedim iyi mi :((
I think Jenny talked him into marrying Laoghaire.
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men just don't get it, do they. His sister jenny pressured him into it. This is what is wrong with people, let them in due time figure out how to live their lives. Some people just don't get, a wedding ceremony doesn't equate to a marriage, especially one done under pressure. This wasn't just any woman, but the one who had claire framed for witchcraft. Jenny has no right to be showing her an attitude it was her who was at fault. In the book she had a one on one chat and was trying to avoid claire, because she knew she was guilty for pressuring jamie. She told claire that when laoghaire and jamie were getting married, she saw a vision and saw claire standing in between them at the alter...so she knew what she was doing was wrong. Jamie should have been more mindful of who he was marrying, and also in the book jamie does not tell claire right away about his illegitimate son.
Yea no sorry that’s no excuse for me. He could’ve married any other woman than Laoghaire. The only episode were I was truly disappointed in Jamie.
Yes, you are so right! Marrying a woman who tries to have the love of your live get burnt...is just seems so unbelievable to me. I can not understand.
Should have married the widow who came to the cave, gave him a hair cut, shave and some "exercise". She was young enough to give him children if he was so interested in that. She wasn't his love like Clair but she would have warmed the bed on those cold nights in Scotland.
Claire had no business being so self-righteous.
Samauri Momo..... im glad you said that becsuse she is and ive thought that through this whole show and why i dont care for claire. Its all about her !!!! And forget anyone else's feelings and all.
@@lindatimmons3675 Wrong
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