There have been many times where I feel like Shannon has been too hard on Lamar Jackson, but I always respect how he keeps the same energy and that shows in these clips today, especially with how much everyone disagrees
@@Ray-hy9cosure did in the super bowl 😂😂 can't throw a 4 quarter td to save his life burrow shouldn't be on mahomes or Lamar tier burrow never gets criticism and they Blame Lamar for the defense but when it's burrow he gets a pass
@wilhelm4321 ah, yes... Joe Burrow with his ONE super bowl appearance 3 years ago that he gets to live off of... He didn't even win it, yet y'all talk like he did
Except he never does because he cant. Lamar jackson is criticized for one reason and one reason his inability to impose on defenses when hes down late in games because they know the run is not an option. Lamar jacksons statlines dont look like this
@@kevintomey1275 Not too much to disagree with only that I'm a Ravens fan and watch quite a bit of games. I didn't believe Lamar had an actual shot at a bowl with Greg Roman there because no even Patty Mahomes was going to win when your OC mainly has 2/3 FB and HB's on like every play and 2 or more TE every play. I don't even want to talk about receivers. Not saying Mar is perfect at all which is why I said not much to disagree. But even then I hear Lamar is injury prone but they don't say the same for other more injured QB's. Last year The Chiefs defense and Zay with two huge boneheaded plays is why we lost that game last year not Lamar. I think Joe has missed more time and had more injuries than Lamar but they call Lamar injury prone and not Joe. Trevor Law may get the most love I've ever seen(Media wise) from a QB that doesn't win much. As Shannon said just wish they didn't play favorites when it comes to honestly talking about players.
@@HooksyCollins They might as well be, won’t get more wins than cinci anyways, they’re 1-2, & Lamar has never won a playoff game except for once in the wild card round against the cowboys if that even counts
@@killakam5981 And? Last time I checked, playing defense wasn't a part of his job description, niether is calling plays, niether is signing his weapons to long term deals, nor is it building an offensive line.
@@mistersunshine1330 that means he's getting paid superstar money. Did you not hear what Shannon did? You settled for field goals knowing your defense can't hang. You need to be superman and take risk because at the end of the day it's about wins and loses. Burrow had every opportunity to win and he didn't do what he needed to do
You obviously don't watch football. Dak primarily does his damage when the game is already decided and the cowboys have no chance of winning. Complete opposite for Joe
@@wilhelm4321 But you can say that because they lost, this wasnt about history its about that game, and if you not a dak hater you cant say he didnt play well enough to win, but thats actually his point.......so where the burrow venom dak gets ? why arent ppl making excuse for dak now ? hats shannons point he didnt win so he didnt play well enough
Why is it for dak its garbage time but other qb's fall from behind and come back they call it a 4th quarter come back and they won. Rams on Sunday was trailing all game long against 9ers and Rams came back and won
@@dangelobrown87 No, no, no. Other qb's are done by like 10 and make comebacks. Dak will literally play horrible most of the game, and then, when they are down 30, come out like Tom Brady, knowing there's no chance.
@@agentcodybanx8909 Joe Burrow did. You can only overcome so much as QB, he did his job. What more would you want him to do ?? Cmon Shannon was wrong here all the way.
@@Daffy_C Shay Shay was basically implying he should’ve went for 4th down instead of settling for a FG, bc you will only dig yourself a grave with FGs given your defense is bad. That or he should’ve made more third down conversions
As a Steelers fan, the difference between the two is that Lamar folds in big games and has had a stout defense pretty much every year except this year while Burrow doesn't. Had the Cowboys came back and beat the Ravens, no one would have blamed Lamar on here, it would have been all about the defense for a 2nd straight week, took their foot off the opps necks and let them back in the game.
@MmaMadman85 Why are u talking me lol how long it's been since the steelers won A PLAYOFF GAME🤔 Secondly go back and watch the bengals super bowl run to say he never had a defense is ridiculous when the defense that year carried them especially in the playoffs lol bengals fans are literally crying now because of the defense currently... In all actuality i don't blame Burrow for this loss but if that's the standard for every 50 million dollar qb I'm not going to argue with it
Joe Burrow has been to the playoffs twice-the first time, he won more postseason games (3) than Lamar has in his career (2)… then he went on and won Lamar’s career totals again in the following playoffs. Playoffs: LJ - 6 pass TDs and 6 INTs 3 rushing TDs and 2 fumbles Joe - 9 pass TDs and 4 INTs and 1 rushing TD That’s why they should be judged differently.
Shannon tripin' ... anybody that watched that game saw it was clearly the defense fault. A rookie with no interception no turnovers no pants tells you it was the defense... 2 field goals is a normal outcome in any game. Smh ridiculous take on this game
I get Shannon point.. if this was Lamar in this same situation 0-3 .. Stephen A and Jeff Saturday would be saying Lamar gotta do more regardless of what the defense did or didn’t do it would’ve been all on him… just like he said there is a personal bias wit QB’s
No they wouldn’t. If Lamar put up the points and numbers burrow did nobody would be saying that. It’s an idiotic argument, but that community is easy to fool because they are emotional.
@@crowjones78 Lamar is leading the NFL in total yards. Who got the blame the first two games? I heard several analyst say "He's a 2 time mvp he's gotta win these games". Did his defense not let up a 20 point lead TWICE this year?
@@crowjones78 Lamar put up 400 yards of offense week 1 they blame him. He had 26-16 lead in the 4th vs the raiders they blame him cuz defense couldn’t stop a nose bleed. Last year the ravens was 3-2 lost to Pittsburgh cuz the receivers had 9 drops the next morning was “Is Lamar living up to his contract” 😭😭😭😭😭. Lamar get crucified every they get
A game against the Steelers last year the ravens receivers drops 3 touchdowns and like 5 other passes. SA and Shannon came on the show the next day saying Lamar didn’t deserve his contract
I appreciate the consistency from Shannon. He's right. Despite the stats, Joe Burrow didn't do enough to win the game. They use stats to shield certain QBs from criticism after a loss but blame other QBs for losses regardless of their stats. In 2020, before suffering a season-ending injury, Dak was on pace for 6000 yds and 40+ TDs, but Stephen A and others in the media belittled his individual performance because the team record was just 2-3. But they constantly make excuses for guys like Joe Burrow/Josh Allen/Justin Herbert when their teams lose. They claim that the elite QBs can carry teams to Ws even with a flawed supporting cast. But they make more excuses for the so-called elite QBs than they will accept for the non-elite QBs. Makes no sense at all.
Sickening!!! Ragu gotta stand up and go through all those theatrics cause they don’t wanna keep same energy for Burrows… THEY ACT SOOO SCARRED TO CRITICIZE CERTAIN PLAYERS
Why do you people invent fake scenarios and hurt your own feelings. You think hurts or Lamar would get criticized after putting up 33 points and going 29/38 for 324 yd 3td 0 int and 127.5 rating. You think they’d be getting criticized? You know that’s nonsense, they are the most coddled QBs in the league. Hurts isn’t even good, he had one decent season. There’s a reason you’ve done nothing in life, because you whine incessantly.
@@crowjones78Excellent point. Lamar gets killed for his lack of discipline in game defining moments.. 2 playoff wins in 7 seasons? On a team with a defense that hasn’t allowed more than 17 points in a playoff game in almost 10 years? Lamar criticism is well deserved.. thank you. 🙏🏾
I like how Shannon references and appreciates Brady a lot more after his career. He can holistically look back and see just how smart the dude was when it came to situational football
Nah I do as well, people lack basic comprehension skills. He never said burrow played bad or that with a decent defense he played good enough to win. What Shannon said understanding how that game went all night, how your defense cannot stop anything. You should know you have to score, you cannot settle for field goals.
Facts. The key point he made here is the fact that Bengals were down 13 at some point. If both defenses can’t stop a fly…Joe burrow and the offense has to eat that. Knowing the kind of game it was going to be, you can’t afford to go down 3 scores. We see Dak do this all the time…empty calories.
@@vincente4570 oh for sure, but all I pointed out is how people are misinterpreting Shannon’s words taking it as if he called burrows play “bad”. Which was not true at all. Back to what you were saying tho, 120% agree, with that awful defense unless burrow wins shootouts they ain’t going nowhere
lol n he can never admit when he’s wrong lol yall do realize he was the 1 criticizing Lamar after the Steelers game with all those drops last season right lol
Dude you are mad hahaha the point of the conversation was did they lose the game because of Joe and they literally didn't Shannon is tripping hahahaha I don't know what he was watching but he needs new glasses...and probably a new brain...if this was Mahomes and not Burrow, Shannon would ride the D to say how Mahomes even when he sucks...THE DEFENSE IS AND WAS TRASH the whole game and I'm a New England fan not even a fan of either teams...but the point is Burrow literally put points every single time they were on the field(except the 1 missed FG and that wasn't Joe kicking it haha). So you want to tell me that it's his fault that his defense didn't have 1 stop or turnover or anything and let the opposing offense score TD on nearly every single f-ing drive? They literally allowed every single time a TD except once, I think...you and Shannon are crazy if you think that Joe played bad or that it's his fault hahaha Tom or Patrick or Payton wouldn't be able to win with that defense...it was pure comedy watching them "defend"
No he’s not. QBs get criticized when they don’t play well. Like Lamar in coiple playoff games. But not when the QB is doing well. Even Dak. Gets praised in regular season but throwing pick 6s in playoffs. It’s why we defend Herbert, cause you saw the talent but the defense stunk
That SB where Brady had to throw 525 yards and still lost explains exactly what Shannon means. That defense couldnt stop a breeze, so Brady had to light it up. Brady threw the entire game; he didnt have a choice of running or taking easy points.
@@TheLirJEt86dude Lamar had 400 yds and a good game against the chiefs and they still blamed him lol like what are you talking about? They even said "Lamar should've done more". I can literally pull up the video and link it to you.
These two can’t understand what Shannon is saying which is mind blowing. He never said burrow played bad, what he said is giving the way the game has been going all night. Knowing your defense cannot stop nothing, settling for field goals is not going to be enough, you have to go for it. Yes it’s a risk but playing it conservatively with a defense as bad as that is not going to win you games. That’s all Shannon is saying and I totally agree. Brady did it best, if his defense was locking it down he never tried to throw for 400+yards or ever put the ball in harms way. If his defense was garbage that game he knew he had to press, he knew every point would matter.
Lol the problem with that is they scored a touchdown on every possession in the second half plus they never punted the ball once the entire game. The commanders also didn't punt the entire game so basically shannon mustve forgot that they kicked a field goal on their second possession in the first quarter. So basically they would've had to know the commanders would score every possession by the time the score was 7-7 lmaoo. That just trying your hardest to slam burrow for the sake of doing it. If anything this is the only game this season so far you ABSOLUTELY couldn't blame him for the loss. Week 1 and 2 have better aguements
In Brady’s peak years he wouldn’t have done anything differently than Joe did. You don’t project that your team will not be able to get a stop ALL GAME. You don’t oversell in the first half, you take your 3 points and go back for more. Name one time Brady’s defense didn’t get a single stop in a game.
When a black qb doesnt conform to what the media wants him to be, u see the bias, no criticism for Josh Allen or even Justin Herbert’s but Lamar is killed
@@k.d.6881 - stop, nobody cares that he’s black… the dude chokes in the playoffs after having MVP regular seasons… he got, 2 postseason wins in his career. In his losses, the Ravens put up 17, 12, 3 and 10 points. And that 3 pointer was against Allen… doesn’t help your argument that Allen has produced 21 passing by TDs with 4 INTs to LJ’s 6 & 6 😂😂😂 Choked liked he was getting Diddied in the playoffs over and over again.
Lamar had almost 400 yards of total offense by himself and they still blamed him for the Chiefs loss. I love Unc holding Burrow accountable when no one in the media does.
@@gbrow1604and then the next play hit Likely for what could’ve tied the game. Don’t selectively choose plays and then try to blame the loss on Lamar. Ravens had 9 procedure penalties and still kept it close
@@itisnottaken4444ravens defense also played horrible, don’t even get me started on the o line either. Despite all that Lamar dragged them to the finish line. Burrow would gotten blown out😂😂
@@gbrow1604lol yea sure. I saw burrow throw two terrible passes to Chase in the redzone that could have been TDs with proper ball placement. Keep making excuses for slim Shady all you want. He’s overrated
He’s 0-2 every season . First few weeks . Y’all should be used to this lol . Same way Lamar chokes in the playoffs . Same way Burrow and Bengals are booty in first few weeks. But this time Burrow is playing lights out
@jtbear77 But he's 0-3 against teams they should've beat with ease!! Lamar chokes in the playoffs?! How many years has Lamar had others on offense he can depend on?! Burrow has had 3 guys at the receiver position can be number 1 receivers on other teams and still only had one good season!! Save your dumb a$$ excuses!!
@@TeeWill4 lol... and if Lamar is a 2x mvp he should be held to THE HIGHEST STANDARD but apparently all he's gotta do is win regular season games and he's the goat 🤣🤣
He took a sack on his last possession on third down, before giving the chiefs the ball back before they got the ball back for the game winning drive and kick. He should have taken a timeout or changed the play when the chiefs are known to blitz in those situations.
@@samuelgoma1373 Please stop it. The Bengals were up 22-17 before he gave them fumble TD. So instead of extending the lead, they are now down. Not to mention, he did nothing after regaining the lead. The defense made KC turn the ball over three times. Stop giving Burrow a pass
Joe Burrow and Lamar Jaccson are both great QBs but Lamars post season record is 2-4 while Burrows is 5-2.. Both of those losses were by 3 points too. Joe Burrow is 2-0 against Josh Allen and he should be 4-1 against Mahomes. Week 1 Gesecki fumbled that touchdown catch which would have won the first game of the season. Last week against the Chiefs Burrow outplayed Mahomes but because of DPI they lost. Monday night Burrow definitely played well enough to win but because he didn't score a TD on every single possession people like Canty and Sharpe are blaming him even though he's playing good football. I don't think people realize how bad the Bengals defense is.. The Bengals are one of the worst at stopping the run and one of the worst at running the ball.. Not having Tee Higgins for the first 2 weeks didn't help either but Burrow still put his team in a position to win both of those games.
Shannon talking fact. Why is it when Joe burrow losing they talk about his stats but when other qb play better than him they blame the qb for the defense mistake
This is why Tom Brady is the GOAT, not because of the super bowls or accomplishments or individual accolades, it was because he was obsessed with winning and the key details and watching film.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mabsolutely, and I'm a fan of the Chiefs. Tom was more interested in winning than anything else. Burrow consistently comes up short in the big moments. But he always gets a pass because he shines statistically.
@@crowjones78 last night he came up short several times. Talk all you want about the playoffs, but he must do better to even get to the playoffs. He came up short against the Patriots and the Chiefs also. He has a wonderful arm and great receivers, but he consistently comes up short. Only 2 of his 5 years has he made the playoffs. His regular season record is only slightly above 500. Fans blame his defense, but he didn't appear urgent until late in the game.
Shannon failed to realize that there are also defensive players that make a bajillion dollars to stop the offense from scoring. They dont matter then apparently.
@@tucklydavis9064 🤣🤣🤣The world just saw the Cowboys defense give up almost 600 yards rushing in the last two games bruh. And Dak had 0 turnovers in the last game. They couldn't even say anything about Dak in the last game. They have zero run game and nearly came back in the game only because of him. The biased hatred towards Dak is just comical.
Swagu is being biased because Joe Burrow played at LSU which shouldn’t matter at all if you want to be taken serious as a former player now turned analyst on tv you gotta take the bias and friendship out of it completely and keep it real, genuine, honest with credibility.
Shannon is talking about delusions. Cause aside from A. Burrow scoring a TD every drive or B. Burrow playing defense and getting an int, there is nothing else he could have done to help his defense win them this game. Blaming Burrow for this loss is absurd.
Shannon is talking about unrealistic expectations since Joe did a good job to put his team in a spot to win. Joe's stats were good but allowing a QB to go 21/23, it was his defensive coordinator and defense on the field that let them down
@@holahovito13 Lamar plays his worst football when it matters, ppl use the opportunity to knock Burrow when he's not 100% or coming off injury but just chooses to ignore when he's 100% he's winning games and in the playoffs, he just came off injury and played horrible week 1, but 2 and 3 he showed up no ints this year defense letting ppl do whatever but we blaming Burrow for not stopping teams from scoring foh.
@@MrEmmanuelmack Regular season. He statistically plays his worst football when it matters and ppl are turning a blind eye just to cope and make it a pick and choose situation when it's obvious.
@@xerospadesBut that’s even bad on the Bengals offense but Joe Burrow fumbled the football and the Chiefs defense got a scoop and score, even those the Bengals defense got two takeaways on Patrick Mahomes.
@@xerospadesMahomes has 3 superbowls and Mahomes today said he is playing bad and it’s his fault the offense is struggling. Joe Burrow has NEVER done that. That’s the difference
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mMy whole argument is that in this particular game Joe maybe had a couple of Mess-Ups but Shannon is giving him the entire blame saying he didn't play well which was a bold-faced lie.
@@xerospadeshow did he get quiet ? He told swagu to finish reading the stat line. Burrow had a fumble 6 which actually cost them the game. Convenient he left that part out huh
Lamar threw for like 5 yards in the seconds half. Face it, he’s a choke artist who will never get past the elite afc QBs. Sorry the your ‘brotha’ is another playoff loser.
NFL defense coordinators literally say they scheme to make Lamar throw the ball. Imagine that. People are literally doing everything in their power to get him to do the primary thing most qb's are supposed to do.
Bro y’all act like that was 5 years ago. That was February 2022. He went back to the afc championship the following year. Then you have to take his health into account. He has only played 2 full seasons lol. Watch the man play, he’s good
Shay stood on bizness and is absolutely RIGHT! Joe Burr has media bias since going to the super bowl. Never have i seen a qb who lost the chip get held up on the same level as the 3 time super bowl champ!
Lamar has balled out every week so far this season, but whenever the Ravens lose, all we hear is "he's a 2x MVP that has his bag, he needs to win those games". The same people who don't have Lamar a top 5 qb and Joe Burrow a top 2 qb will hold Lamar wayyy higher than Joe when they lose. Make it make sense.
@wilhelm4321 What else has Joe done besides losing a Superbowl 3 years ago? #1 seed? MVP? Win the Division a year Lamar doesn't get hurt? Winning a game without three #1 receivers?
They don't his comment wasn't about stats...it’s about going above what your team needed to try and win the game. He is the leader of his and the situation arrived he must adjust to what's needs to push his team to victory.
@@pjgt5364 Is that not what he did when he threw for 3 touchdowns and put 33 points on the board?? Did you expect him to go out and play defense as well alongside Hendrickson?
Unc is wrong though. Not sure what league Unc is in but he is dead wrong. You are not winning many games if any games at all if you keep conceding 38 points a game. Insane.
Joe Burrow didn't give up 38 points but he did help put up 33 points. This is stupid and I'm not even a Bengal fan. And he did for go for 300+ yards and 3 touchdowns against the Commanders.
@@jonsnipe5484 and no one ever brings up when Brady loses the games where they only score 14 points. Or when they win against the rams where he barely throws for 150 yards and gets all the credit.
What's your point? Wins and Losses are SOLELY based upon QB play. Find a game where the QB plays like trash but the team wins and Shannon is respectful of that QBs play....
Thank you Shannon when Lamar had 400 yard vs the chiefs no one said he played well or blamed his defense it was just a lost so keep that same energy for burrow the media loves burrow always protects him it’s time it stops
Shannon is basically saying we don’t hold Joe accountable for losing…. Tom Brady was literally Superman in the Super Bowl against the eagles and Bill Belichick’s defense gave up all those points and lost the game in the end. Brady took the blame and say he should have played better… Shannon is absolutely correct… Josh Allen knows when to turn it on … Lamar Jackson knows when to turn it on … Pat Homes knows when to turn it on … when those QB don’t we hold them accountable as well.
It's time to hold Burrow accountable they are 0-3 .....Too many FGs in the red zone some throws behind WRs ...But let this be Lamar the world would cave ....
Blame lamar cause he know what time it is going up against mahomes. Lamar knows he can't kick field goals! 3 points is not going to beat mahomes when he getting 6 points each drive. SAS and them all would be saying that about lamar!
Burrow took a team that was 2-14 to a super bowl in a 2-year span. Lamar came into one of the best ran organizations with a top 5 defense every year and hasn't sniffed a super bowl.
I’m definitely on the side with Shannon on this. Joe has had everything one QB could ever ask for. Obviously him getting hurt you throw that out but there’s no participation awards for beating Mahomes and almost winning. He has no excuse to get it done.
Y’all didn’t have this same energy when Lamar’s defense gave up 20 points in the 4th quarter to the Raiders. Not to mention y’all saying if your QB put up 33 points they should win that game BUT they failed to mention that they was playing from BEHIND the ENTIRE game.
Jalen hurts gets meant ridden non stop and he’s terrible. You people are like women whining about everything. You people really must believe you’re inferior. The whining is pathetic.
@@ch10adis that why blacks are released repeatedly after dozens of arrests by black DAs in every city in the country. You people are the whiniest, most pathetic demographic on earth.
@@TJAvant95yes, because Burrow has been far better in the playoffs than Lamar and Dak. Jalen Hurts got to a SB and also gets tons of excuses like Burrow
They gonna get Shannon off this show. You can't talk about burrows Burrows is the great white hope they dying for him to win a superbowl. They just settling for mahomes for now.
Peyton Manning ,Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers was winning games despite bad defenses . Stop with that excuse , Shannon is right , burrow is getting paid 255 million dollars to win football games, not put up pretty numbers. He was outplayed by a rookie last night who both faced bad defenses
I mean sh*t Shannon got a point. If you making $55 Million a year, you better put that team on your back and do what you gotta do to win the game. WTF they paying that much money for? 💁🏻♂️
@@gbrow1604 Like Shannon said, you have a $55 mil a year IQ. You should already get a feel by the first 15 minutes of the game on how the game is going to play out. Winners make plays. Obviously he didn’t do enough to get the job done.
Shannon got a point... Brady will always be known for losing to Giants in superbowl.. there are critical plays during a game that a qb doesn't make... they can still have great stats.. belichick says stats are for losers lol
Shanon is actually keeping the same energy. I think he's a madman either way. But I appreciate the fact that he treats them all the same. The rest are very inconsistent.
😂😂😂what you want him to do throw, catch it, run the ball & play defense. The man throw over 300yrds with multiple TD & put up over 30 points. In what world does a QB play like that & gets blamed for losing 😂 stop it.
@@Daffy_Cyou have to show up , you get paid the most and that team couldn’t stop a rookie QB , that tells the QB he’s gonna need to be greater then great to walk away with the W , the Bengals are 0-3 that’s enough said
@@wilhelm4321since Jalen has been a starter he has brought his team to the playoffs all 3 years with a SB appearance and second in MVP rating. If he didn’t get hurt he would have won. Second highest QBR in a Super Bowl game. Last year in a down season he finished with 38 TDs second in the league finishing at 11-6.
How was yesterday his fault though? The first game was his fault. Second one of course Mahomes team get all calls. But yesterday Burrow defense was trash yesterday.
Uuuuuuuuuh no! Cut it out! I remember when Eli Manning was playing against the Saints years ago and threw 6 TDs in that game and still lost 52-49. So I guess that’s Eli’s fault too hun Shannon Sharpe🙄👎🏿
Shanon is saying if the other team is lighting you ip scoring points then light them up and score even more points. Burrow should have lit the commanders defense since they could not stop tye bengals either. That is where Shanon is coming from
I have never seen a Quarterback that hasn't won anything be more protected by media than Joe Burrow Lamar played good game against Mahomes lost close all we heard is Lamar you gotta win that game.
@@SunShine-xc6dh Cuz the media dont vote of that, they recognize that he accomplishes much with the fewest resources possible. Not elite WR, a somewhat available TE. On and off defense, top 5 one day, allowing 19 points in one quarter another day. Unlike Mahomes, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Burrow, Hebert, Stafford, Tua, and so many more who have top #10 weapons, he gets stuff done w/o them.
Two things can be true at the same time: Yes, the media has a bias towards QB’s they like and they tend to cape for them when they don’t play well. Yes, Joe Burrow played well enough last night for his team to win. The defense couldn’t stop a Rookie (Jayden Daniels) from calling.
@@brabea23 I see that perspective. I just don’t agree it’s that black & white. it’s nuanced since the QB can’t do everything by himself. like if this was basketball I would agree with you 100%
It's crazy how these guys don't understand Shannon's point. He's not blaming Burrow and saying he bad, he's saying he needed to do more last night because the defense was terrible, that's a completely fair statement to make for one of the highest paid players in the league. Saturday saying they want to force him to press, like yes! that's literally the point. If you're good enough to get paid so much, prove you're elite and force throws and make those throws, that's literally the definition of elite in football and what Brady did.
If you lose 7-10 it’s the offense’s fault, because the defense did their job holding them to 10. If you lose 33-34 it’s the defense’s fault, because the offense did their job scoring 33. If you really think it’s the opposite like Shay says here, that’s magical thinking and doesn’t agree with reality whatsoever.
There have been many times where I feel like Shannon has been too hard on Lamar Jackson, but I always respect how he keeps the same energy and that shows in these clips today, especially with how much everyone disagrees
Lamar is a certified choker. Burrow has never let his team down in the playoffs. 14 weeks to go yall needa calm down coming from a pats fan.
@@Ray-hy9cosure did in the super bowl 😂😂 can't throw a 4 quarter td to save his life burrow shouldn't be on mahomes or Lamar tier burrow never gets criticism and they Blame Lamar for the defense but when it's burrow he gets a pass
@Ray-hy9co why do fans like you get they feelings hurt about facts?
If Lamar, Jalen or Dak were 0-3, they would be getting destroyed. Burrow doesnt deserve blame per say, but he is 5-8 in his last 13 starts.
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@@onyamark2932 Ah, yes, Jalen Hurts and his one good season and Dak and Lamar with their repeated postseason failures.
@@dantheman8152 You should be ashamed for trying to mention those hoodlums with Joe
None of those guys have brought their team to a Super Bowl with one of the worst o lines in the nfl
@wilhelm4321 ah, yes... Joe Burrow with his ONE super bowl appearance 3 years ago that he gets to live off of... He didn't even win it, yet y'all talk like he did
This is insane. Had The Ravens been 0-3 and Lamar played exactly like Joe this segment would sound COMPLETELY different.
Except he never does because he cant. Lamar jackson is criticized for one reason and one reason his inability to impose on defenses when hes down late in games because they know the run is not an option. Lamar jacksons statlines dont look like this
@@kevintomey1275 Not too much to disagree with only that I'm a Ravens fan and watch quite a bit of games. I didn't believe Lamar had an actual shot at a bowl with Greg Roman there because no even Patty Mahomes was going to win when your OC mainly has 2/3 FB and HB's on like every play and 2 or more TE every play. I don't even want to talk about receivers. Not saying Mar is perfect at all which is why I said not much to disagree. But even then I hear Lamar is injury prone but they don't say the same for other more injured QB's. Last year The Chiefs defense and Zay with two huge boneheaded plays is why we lost that game last year not Lamar. I think Joe has missed more time and had more injuries than Lamar but they call Lamar injury prone and not Joe. Trevor Law may get the most love I've ever seen(Media wise) from a QB that doesn't win much. As Shannon said just wish they didn't play favorites when it comes to honestly talking about players.
@@HooksyCollins They might as well be, won’t get more wins than cinci anyways, they’re 1-2, & Lamar has never won a playoff game except for once in the wild card round against the cowboys if that even counts
@@danielclark8702 they literally slaughtered the texans last year in the divisonal
He never plays well can't remember the last time he even got 33 points. 2021?
“Why do we pay them so much if so much isn’t expected of them?”
Silence
Because he ain't the only one getting paid
@@mistersunshine1330but he's the only one getting paid $55 million a year though
@@killakam5981 And? Last time I checked, playing defense wasn't a part of his job description, niether is calling plays, niether is signing his weapons to long term deals, nor is it building an offensive line.
Jacksonville and Giants have 2 back up QBs making starter money.
@@mistersunshine1330 that means he's getting paid superstar money. Did you not hear what Shannon did? You settled for field goals knowing your defense can't hang. You need to be superman and take risk because at the end of the day it's about wins and loses. Burrow had every opportunity to win and he didn't do what he needed to do
Lmao. Shannon could have killed the conversation by asking did Dak play well enough to win and watch the bias kill them
You obviously don't watch football. Dak primarily does his damage when the game is already decided and the cowboys have no chance of winning. Complete opposite for Joe
@@wilhelm4321 But you can say that because they lost, this wasnt about history its about that game, and if you not a dak hater you cant say he didnt play well enough to win, but thats actually his point.......so where the burrow venom dak gets ? why arent ppl making excuse for dak now ? hats shannons point he didnt win so he didnt play well enough
Why is it for dak its garbage time but other qb's fall from behind and come back they call it a 4th quarter come back and they won. Rams on Sunday was trailing all game long against 9ers and Rams came back and won
@@kareempusey5032 He didn't play well, lol. They were down by like 20 going into the 4th. Are you kidding me?
@@dangelobrown87 No, no, no. Other qb's are done by like 10 and make comebacks. Dak will literally play horrible most of the game, and then, when they are down 30, come out like Tom Brady, knowing there's no chance.
I’ve never heard these excuses for Lamar
Ya dig.
lol they hate Lamar cause he clown them. On social media
And YOU NEVER WILL!
Because the Ravens have always had a great defense to keep him in games and yet he has consistently choked in big games.
I don’t even like Joe but Lamar sucks and doesn’t have postseason success
Unc was standing on business the whole time 😂
Standing on being wrong I guess
@Daffy_C not entirely, the argument he gave is valid. Hes saying They're defense is terrible and Joe has to play lights out to counteract that
@@agentcodybanx8909 Joe Burrow did. You can only overcome so much as QB, he did his job. What more would you want him to do ?? Cmon Shannon was wrong here all the way.
@@Daffy_C Shay Shay was basically implying he should’ve went for 4th down instead of settling for a FG, bc you will only dig yourself a grave with FGs given your defense is bad. That or he should’ve made more third down conversions
🤣😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾
As a Ravens fan seeing Shannon keep the same energy with Burrow the same way he does with Lamar is refreshing
As a Steelers fan, the difference between the two is that Lamar folds in big games and has had a stout defense pretty much every year except this year while Burrow doesn't. Had the Cowboys came back and beat the Ravens, no one would have blamed Lamar on here, it would have been all about the defense for a 2nd straight week, took their foot off the opps necks and let them back in the game.
As a Steelers fan , I'm celebrating. This is fantastic 😅
@MmaMadman85 Why are u talking me lol how long it's been since the steelers won A PLAYOFF GAME🤔 Secondly go back and watch the bengals super bowl run to say he never had a defense is ridiculous when the defense that year carried them especially in the playoffs lol bengals fans are literally crying now because of the defense currently... In all actuality i don't blame Burrow for this loss but if that's the standard for every 50 million dollar qb I'm not going to argue with it
Joe Burrow has been to the playoffs twice-the first time, he won more postseason games (3) than Lamar has in his career (2)… then he went on and won Lamar’s career totals again in the following playoffs.
Playoffs:
LJ - 6 pass TDs and 6 INTs
3 rushing TDs and 2 fumbles
Joe - 9 pass TDs and 4 INTs and 1 rushing TD
That’s why they should be judged differently.
Shannon ain’t who ya’ll quite think he is, he’s the big C word that rhymes with SPOON!!
Lolol 15:25 Shannon said finish reading the stats big fella…don’t conveniently leave out that fumble. He gon walk off lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Was literally sitting here thinking "didn't Burrow fumble 🤔? ...." and then I read your comment. Thank you 👊
At least Shannon is being consistent
Shannon tripin' ... anybody that watched that game saw it was clearly the defense fault. A rookie with no interception no turnovers no pants tells you it was the defense... 2 field goals is a normal outcome in any game. Smh ridiculous take on this game
Not consistent because this is the first time he’s called himself out about Lamar and media coverage, that he is guilty of
Consistently with Michelle
😂😂😂😂@@PlatinumHustle
SKIIIUUUPPP!
I get Shannon point.. if this was Lamar in this same situation 0-3 .. Stephen A and Jeff Saturday would be saying Lamar gotta do more regardless of what the defense did or didn’t do it would’ve been all on him… just like he said there is a personal bias wit QB’s
No they wouldn’t. If Lamar put up the points and numbers burrow did nobody would be saying that. It’s an idiotic argument, but that community is easy to fool because they are emotional.
@@crowjones78 Lamar is leading the NFL in total yards. Who got the blame the first two games? I heard several analyst say "He's a 2 time mvp he's gotta win these games". Did his defense not let up a 20 point lead TWICE this year?
@@crowjones78 Lamar put up 400 yards of offense week 1 they blame him. He had 26-16 lead in the 4th vs the raiders they blame him cuz defense couldn’t stop a nose bleed. Last year the ravens was 3-2 lost to Pittsburgh cuz the receivers had 9 drops the next morning was “Is Lamar living up to his contract” 😭😭😭😭😭. Lamar get crucified every they get
A game against the Steelers last year the ravens receivers drops 3 touchdowns and like 5 other passes. SA and Shannon came on the show the next day saying Lamar didn’t deserve his contract
@@ZayWhopper17 perfect example.. they said it was Lamar fault.. n Yu could see clear as day receivers dropping passes left and right
I appreciate the consistency from Shannon. He's right. Despite the stats, Joe Burrow didn't do enough to win the game. They use stats to shield certain QBs from criticism after a loss but blame other QBs for losses regardless of their stats. In 2020, before suffering a season-ending injury, Dak was on pace for 6000 yds and 40+ TDs, but Stephen A and others in the media belittled his individual performance because the team record was just 2-3. But they constantly make excuses for guys like Joe Burrow/Josh Allen/Justin Herbert when their teams lose.
They claim that the elite QBs can carry teams to Ws even with a flawed supporting cast. But they make more excuses for the so-called elite QBs than they will accept for the non-elite QBs. Makes no sense at all.
Sickening!!! Ragu gotta stand up and go through all those theatrics cause they don’t wanna keep same energy for Burrows… THEY ACT SOOO SCARRED TO CRITICIZE CERTAIN PLAYERS
I like Shannon holding burrow accountable. They kill Lamar when his team lets him down.
Except Lamar can’t complete some of the easiest passes 😂
@@jankaufmann7837 yet he has the 2nd most perfect qbr rating tied with Brady and manning
@@jankaufmann7837he has a win you don’t talk to me when you do
@@Ravensflock68 which belongs to Derrick Henry😂
@@Ravensflock68against the cowboys and I’m a cowboys fan
If this was Jalen Hurts or Lamar this WHOLE panel would be killing them
On my mama
Lamar true. But as an eagles fan our offense is absolutely stacked, if he plays poorly, we’d bury him.
Why do you people invent fake scenarios and hurt your own feelings. You think hurts or Lamar would get criticized after putting up 33 points and going 29/38 for 324 yd 3td 0 int and 127.5 rating. You think they’d be getting criticized? You know that’s nonsense, they are the most coddled QBs in the league. Hurts isn’t even good, he had one decent season. There’s a reason you’ve done nothing in life, because you whine incessantly.
@@crowjones78its not a fake scenario lol weve seen it happen specifically with those QB’s
@@crowjones78Excellent point. Lamar gets killed for his lack of discipline in game defining moments.. 2 playoff wins in 7 seasons? On a team with a defense that hasn’t allowed more than 17 points in a playoff game in almost 10 years? Lamar criticism is well deserved.. thank you. 🙏🏾
I like how Shannon references and appreciates Brady a lot more after his career. He can holistically look back and see just how smart the dude was when it came to situational football
I agree with Shannon on this one. You all can say what you want.
Nah I do as well, people lack basic comprehension skills. He never said burrow played bad or that with a decent defense he played good enough to win. What Shannon said understanding how that game went all night, how your defense cannot stop anything. You should know you have to score, you cannot settle for field goals.
@@mattgibney4085We git all dat. But got dammitt. Stop someone every now and then. Duuuuuuuuuh🤪
Facts. The key point he made here is the fact that Bengals were down 13 at some point. If both defenses can’t stop a fly…Joe burrow and the offense has to eat that. Knowing the kind of game it was going to be, you can’t afford to go down 3 scores. We see Dak do this all the time…empty calories.
Shannon need to stop drinking Hennessey
@@vincente4570 oh for sure, but all I pointed out is how people are misinterpreting Shannon’s words taking it as if he called burrows play “bad”. Which was not true at all.
Back to what you were saying tho, 120% agree, with that awful defense unless burrow wins shootouts they ain’t going nowhere
If yall think Shannon is wrong about media bias about Joe Burrow then clearly you dont pay attention
Average Joe is worse than Kirk Cousins
Joe converted on a 4th down to get a td at the end of the day your defense has to make a stop
@@DRMZ37 Shannon is out of his mind
lol n he can never admit when he’s wrong lol yall do realize he was the 1 criticizing Lamar after the Steelers game with all those drops last season right lol
Dude you are mad hahaha the point of the conversation was did they lose the game because of Joe and they literally didn't Shannon is tripping hahahaha I don't know what he was watching but he needs new glasses...and probably a new brain...if this was Mahomes and not Burrow, Shannon would ride the D to say how Mahomes even when he sucks...THE DEFENSE IS AND WAS TRASH the whole game and I'm a New England fan not even a fan of either teams...but the point is Burrow literally put points every single time they were on the field(except the 1 missed FG and that wasn't Joe kicking it haha). So you want to tell me that it's his fault that his defense didn't have 1 stop or turnover or anything and let the opposing offense score TD on nearly every single f-ing drive? They literally allowed every single time a TD except once, I think...you and Shannon are crazy if you think that Joe played bad or that it's his fault hahaha Tom or Patrick or Payton wouldn't be able to win with that defense...it was pure comedy watching them "defend"
They're laughing like Shannon is making stuff up. He's telling the truth.
No he’s not. QBs get criticized when they don’t play well. Like Lamar in coiple playoff games. But not when the QB is doing well. Even Dak. Gets praised in regular season but throwing pick 6s in playoffs. It’s why we defend Herbert, cause you saw the talent but the defense stunk
That SB where Brady had to throw 525 yards and still lost explains exactly what Shannon means. That defense couldnt stop a breeze, so Brady had to light it up. Brady threw the entire game; he didnt have a choice of running or taking easy points.
@@TheLirJEt86dude Lamar had 400 yds and a good game against the chiefs and they still blamed him lol like what are you talking about? They even said "Lamar should've done more". I can literally pull up the video and link it to you.
@@36louieboyits so crazy, and chiefs are a better team.
Shannon is being delusional actually
Named Joe burrow stats, but didn’t mention a fumble for a TD lmaooo
he scored the next possession to take the lead.
Not to mention it wouldn’t have happened it his TE caught an easy pass. They would’ve been well past mid field. Learn ball or leave it
@@TripleO-Hoopz who gives af lmaooo the point is He had a fumble 6 and it purposely didn’t get mentioned and they loss lmaoo
@@babychief2879and ur point is still invalid lol. Ur younger than 21 so why u feel the need to say anything?
@@babychief2879 It's not why they lost
These two can’t understand what Shannon is saying which is mind blowing. He never said burrow played bad, what he said is giving the way the game has been going all night. Knowing your defense cannot stop nothing, settling for field goals is not going to be enough, you have to go for it. Yes it’s a risk but playing it conservatively with a defense as bad as that is not going to win you games. That’s all Shannon is saying and I totally agree.
Brady did it best, if his defense was locking it down he never tried to throw for 400+yards or ever put the ball in harms way. If his defense was garbage that game he knew he had to press, he knew every point would matter.
@@mattgibney4085 thank you I don’t understand how people don’t understand what he is saying.
And they're football players..... that's the real sad part of them not understanding
@@gmcqueen27 And that’s the difference between good and great.
Lol the problem with that is they scored a touchdown on every possession in the second half plus they never punted the ball once the entire game. The commanders also didn't punt the entire game so basically shannon mustve forgot that they kicked a field goal on their second possession in the first quarter. So basically they would've had to know the commanders would score every possession by the time the score was 7-7 lmaoo. That just trying your hardest to slam burrow for the sake of doing it. If anything this is the only game this season so far you ABSOLUTELY couldn't blame him for the loss. Week 1 and 2 have better aguements
In Brady’s peak years he wouldn’t have done anything differently than Joe did. You don’t project that your team will not be able to get a stop ALL GAME. You don’t oversell in the first half, you take your 3 points and go back for more. Name one time Brady’s defense didn’t get a single stop in a game.
They tried to clown Shannon. And he stood on bidness!
Shannon stood on stupid
Stop saying that stupid word. Stop promoting dumb Ebonics. It makes you sound very unintelligent
he clowned his self
How@@keith7644
How@@darealldraco1216
If Lamar lost Sunday to the cowboys EVERYBODY would’ve FRIED him SMFH
When a black qb doesnt conform to what the media wants him to be, u see the bias, no criticism for Josh Allen or even Justin Herbert’s but Lamar is killed
That's a fact...
@@k.d.6881 - stop, nobody cares that he’s black… the dude chokes in the playoffs after having MVP regular seasons… he got, 2 postseason wins in his career.
In his losses, the Ravens put up 17, 12, 3 and 10 points.
And that 3 pointer was against Allen… doesn’t help your argument that Allen has produced 21 passing by TDs with 4 INTs to LJ’s 6 & 6 😂😂😂
Choked liked he was getting Diddied in the playoffs over and over again.
@@mike2687 you need help and stop being so miserable, Jesus.
Unc won 3 superbowls.... so I agree with him
Tom Brady can never have a bad take ever then using your logic
Lamar had almost 400 yards of total offense by himself and they still blamed him for the Chiefs loss. I love Unc holding Burrow accountable when no one in the media does.
Maybe because that only resulted in 20 points and he missed a wide open receiver for the game-tying TD.
@@gbrow1604and then the next play hit Likely for what could’ve tied the game. Don’t selectively choose plays and then try to blame the loss on Lamar. Ravens had 9 procedure penalties and still kept it close
@@itisnottaken4444ravens defense also played horrible, don’t even get me started on the o line either. Despite all that Lamar dragged them to the finish line. Burrow would gotten blown out😂😂
@@gbrow1604lol yea sure. I saw burrow throw two terrible passes to Chase in the redzone that could have been TDs with proper ball placement. Keep making excuses for slim Shady all you want. He’s overrated
Give Lamar chas n Higgins for John harbaugh 🤣🤣💯🎉🎉
EXCUSES!!! If Joe Burrow is top 3-5 like they say he is, he has to be held to that standard!!!
He’s 0-2 every season . First few weeks . Y’all should be used to this lol . Same way Lamar chokes in the playoffs . Same way Burrow and Bengals are booty in first few weeks. But this time Burrow is playing lights out
Wtf is wrong with you people Bengals defense is awful reminds me of Peyton at indy if u got to put 40 on the board to win that is the qbs fault lmao 🤣
How about to the standard of his offense not punting the entire game 🤷♂️
@jtbear77 But he's 0-3 against teams they should've beat with ease!! Lamar chokes in the playoffs?! How many years has Lamar had others on offense he can depend on?! Burrow has had 3 guys at the receiver position can be number 1 receivers on other teams and still only had one good season!! Save your dumb a$$ excuses!!
@@TeeWill4 lol... and if Lamar is a 2x mvp he should be held to THE HIGHEST STANDARD but apparently all he's gotta do is win regular season games and he's the goat 🤣🤣
They acting like Burrow didn't commit a fumble six against KC
He took a sack on his last possession on third down, before giving the chiefs the ball back before they got the ball back for the game winning drive and kick. He should have taken a timeout or changed the play when the chiefs are known to blitz in those situations.
@@Mdubkcand his defense gave him 3 takeaways too 😂
Thank you!
But they were winning the game when he wasn’t on the field
@@samuelgoma1373 Please stop it. The Bengals were up 22-17 before he gave them fumble TD. So instead of extending the lead, they are now down. Not to mention, he did nothing after regaining the lead. The defense made KC turn the ball over three times. Stop giving Burrow a pass
Lol Unc was looking unamused when everyone else was talking then he stood on business 😂
They are laughing wayyy too much. Shannon is right.
They laughing because they got no thoughtful response.
Shannon’s argument goes against the coaching, not Burrow
@@strangerewindz1309 why is it that Bengal fans all blame the coaching but not him? It is the same with Lamar.
@strangerewindz1309 Then, no players are ever accountable for losses. According to you, it's always coaching I guess.
Joe Burrow and Lamar Jaccson are both great QBs but Lamars post season record is 2-4 while Burrows is 5-2.. Both of those losses were by 3 points too. Joe Burrow is 2-0 against Josh Allen and he should be 4-1 against Mahomes. Week 1 Gesecki fumbled that touchdown catch which would have won the first game of the season. Last week against the Chiefs Burrow outplayed Mahomes but because of DPI they lost. Monday night Burrow definitely played well enough to win but because he didn't score a TD on every single possession people like Canty and Sharpe are blaming him even though he's playing good football. I don't think people realize how bad the Bengals defense is.. The Bengals are one of the worst at stopping the run and one of the worst at running the ball.. Not having Tee Higgins for the first 2 weeks didn't help either but Burrow still put his team in a position to win both of those games.
Lamar doesn’t get any excuses
@@forevafedonesem2315 Lamar always has a top 5 defense
@@wilhelm4321 Not offense 😂😂😂
@@wilhelm4321 Lamar don't play defense 🤡
@@wilhelm4321ur🤡🤡🤡
@@wilhelm4321is Lamar defense top 5 this year? They have allowed 25 plus every game this year
Shannon got Swagu questioning his entire existence 🤣
Lmao😂😂😂😂
Swagu is cooning
"You live in a world where they make 55 million. Why do they make so much and so much isnt expected of them".....yeah Shannon has a point.
Shannon talking fact. Why is it when Joe burrow losing they talk about his stats but when other qb play better than him they blame the qb for the defense mistake
@@ChosenOne45 It's called context, obviously a difficult concept for you and Shannon to grasp
@@wilhelm43212/4 in the red zone
@@wilhelm4321that’s what you get when you have an emotional community raised by women
They don’t.. the “other qbs” get the same treatment WHEN THEY PLAY BAD. Lamar gets criticism when he plays terrible , same as Jalen
You know why...🤷🏾♂️
Their faces when Unc went against the grain 😮 😂😂
Look at Mr. Sharpe…standing on business today👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
And looking sharp! 😂
Yall agree with this man really. You call on business
@@charlesharry7901 he has his moments…he went off the reservation on this one
@@757CitiesReppa nobody care still disagree
@@charlesharry7901 wtf you talkin bout yo?
"There's a lot of media bias towards QBs... BUT NOT WITH ME" 😂😂😂 Shannon was with the shits
The difference in QB’s who are and aren’t excused in this league is astonishing
This is why Tom Brady is the GOAT, not because of the super bowls or accomplishments or individual accolades, it was because he was obsessed with winning and the key details and watching film.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mabsolutely, and I'm a fan of the Chiefs. Tom was more interested in winning than anything else. Burrow consistently comes up short in the big moments. But he always gets a pass because he shines statistically.
@@MrDavidkniggeconstantly comes up short? TF you talking about he’s 5-2 in the playoffs
@@crowjones78The TEAM is 5-2 in the playoffs. This ain't golf or tennis.
@@crowjones78 last night he came up short several times. Talk all you want about the playoffs, but he must do better to even get to the playoffs. He came up short against the Patriots and the Chiefs also. He has a wonderful arm and great receivers, but he consistently comes up short. Only 2 of his 5 years has he made the playoffs. His regular season record is only slightly above 500. Fans blame his defense, but he didn't appear urgent until late in the game.
Yall proving his point yall protecting Joe Burrow from a 0-3 start
When Shannon said “we live in a world when then make 55 million” everyone got salty cause they know it’s facts
That comment hit different
Money don't chnage how the games played
Shannon failed to realize that there are also defensive players that make a bajillion dollars to stop the offense from scoring. They dont matter then apparently.
no one got salty what are you on about?
If Dak Prescott was 0-3 right now, they wouldn't be giving Dak this grace smh
They're killing Dak for being 1-2 right now.
Because dak puts them in those situations besides the pats game burrow has played lights out
@@tucklydavis9064 🤣🤣🤣The world just saw the Cowboys defense give up almost 600 yards rushing in the last two games bruh. And Dak had 0 turnovers in the last game. They couldn't even say anything about Dak in the last game. They have zero run game and nearly came back in the game only because of him. The biased hatred towards Dak is just comical.
@@topcatthegamer9541empty calorie stats. You don't get credit for putting up yards when you're down 3 TDs...
Dak a different player in the playoffs
The way Swagu walked off the set Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can't
You can’t what ?
@@BrK-jo4vo"I can't take it"
Swagu is being biased because Joe Burrow played at LSU which shouldn’t matter at all if you want to be taken serious as a former player now turned analyst on tv you gotta take the bias and friendship out of it completely and keep it real, genuine, honest with credibility.
because he didn’t have a response lmao
That was lame. I hope next time he makes a point that goes against the room people do that to him.
The problem is they keep talking about his numbers & Shannon is talking about real situational football
Shannon is talking about delusions. Cause aside from A. Burrow scoring a TD every drive or B. Burrow playing defense and getting an int, there is nothing else he could have done to help his defense win them this game. Blaming Burrow for this loss is absurd.
The difference between wins and losses don't matter how good that stat line looks
@@Zahok1 he didnt blame burrow for the loss but hes not absolving him from blame like the panel is. same episode he already blamed the Defense
Shannon is talking about unrealistic expectations since Joe did a good job to put his team in a spot to win. Joe's stats were good but allowing a QB to go 21/23, it was his defensive coordinator and defense on the field that let them down
Talking numbers is not the problem. They are talking about some fantasy they made up in their head about Burrow. Shannon is talking reality.
Living off a losing Superbowl appearance is wild. When he gotta update his resume
thats what hurts lives off. burrow has done more.
@@erdibulku6848hurts is the most overrated player in nfl history. Just like tomlin is the most overrated coach in nfl history because he’s a ‘brotha’
Why are u in every comment about a black qb lol i been following u around this whole comment section. Bro go outside and do something irl@crowjones78
@@crowjones78hurts and burrow are both severely overrated
@@jay____l facts
The look on Swagu got me in LEGIT tears! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 *quing* “HELLO DARKNESS MY OWN FRIEND”
Keep that same energy with burrow that yall have with Lamar. Where all these excuses come from ? 😂😂
@@holahovito13 Lamar plays his worst football when it matters, ppl use the opportunity to knock Burrow when he's not 100% or coming off injury but just chooses to ignore when he's 100% he's winning games and in the playoffs, he just came off injury and played horrible week 1, but 2 and 3 he showed up no ints this year defense letting ppl do whatever but we blaming Burrow for not stopping teams from scoring foh.
ravens defence isnt trash like bengals defence
@@simeonleathers1172but has the second highest win percentage
Let me know when Lamar doesn’t choke in the playoffs. Glad blacks are exposing themselves for the hardcore racists that they are.
@@MrEmmanuelmack Regular season. He statistically plays his worst football when it matters and ppl are turning a blind eye just to cope and make it a pick and choose situation when it's obvious.
Shannon had them boys quiet when he said how much they making👀👀😂😂
@@xaviercoleman9741 he also got quite when Swag brought up Mahomes weak stats lol
@@xerospadesBut that’s even bad on the Bengals offense but Joe Burrow fumbled the football and the Chiefs defense got a scoop and score, even those the Bengals defense got two takeaways on Patrick Mahomes.
@@xerospadesMahomes has 3 superbowls and Mahomes today said he is playing bad and it’s his fault the offense is struggling. Joe Burrow has NEVER done that. That’s the difference
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mMy whole argument is that in this particular game Joe maybe had a couple of Mess-Ups but Shannon is giving him the entire blame saying he didn't play well which was a bold-faced lie.
@@xerospadeshow did he get quiet ? He told swagu to finish reading the stat line. Burrow had a fumble 6 which actually cost them the game. Convenient he left that part out huh
Heaven forbid Lamar 0-3!
Ravens D blows double digit leads it’s Lamar fault
Lamar threw for like 5 yards in the seconds half. Face it, he’s a choke artist who will never get past the elite afc QBs. Sorry the your ‘brotha’ is another playoff loser.
@@crowjones78lmao bro go touch grass 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@600flo4 maybe you should try more emojis like a female
@@600flo4 lmao fr bro is seething 💀
@crowjones78
Lamar 4-1 against burrow 😂😂
I like how when swaggu read Joe Burrows stats against the chiefs he didn’t mention the fumbled return for a TD!!!! 😂😂😂
Thank you Shannon for keepin it real!
exactly..he definitely have a valid point..
Shannon is right. If this was Lamar, it would be different.
They want Lamar to play offense and defense
NFL defense coordinators literally say they scheme to make Lamar throw the ball. Imagine that. People are literally doing everything in their power to get him to do the primary thing most qb's are supposed to do.
@@wilhelm4321 And he has still made it to the AFC Championship wtf
@@DaKiDDKAYC Did he win?
@@DaKiDDKAYC Joe did...he beat the chiefs
Joe Burrow is living off of one SB loss
Bro fr
Bro y’all act like that was 5 years ago. That was February 2022. He went back to the afc championship the following year. Then you have to take his health into account. He has only played 2 full seasons lol. Watch the man play, he’s good
And let’s be honest if anyone is going to beat mahomes when it matters the most it will be joe burrow
Like Lamar isn’t living of MVPs that don’t matter.
He's the new Dan Marino.
Shay stood on bizness and is absolutely RIGHT! Joe Burr has media bias since going to the super bowl. Never have i seen a qb who lost the chip get held up on the same level as the 3 time super bowl champ!
Lamar has balled out every week so far this season, but whenever the Ravens lose, all we hear is "he's a 2x MVP that has his bag, he needs to win those games". The same people who don't have Lamar a top 5 qb and Joe Burrow a top 2 qb will hold Lamar wayyy higher than Joe when they lose. Make it make sense.
Lamar doesn't even know what a Super Bowl looks like😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lamar is not an nfl caliber passer. There I said it. His whole game is running and checkdowns
@wilhelm4321 and Burrow doesn't know what a mvp let alone 2 look like. 0-3 is nasty.
@@bobbybob20so taking what the defense gives you? Got it.
@wilhelm4321 What else has Joe done besides losing a Superbowl 3 years ago? #1 seed? MVP? Win the Division a year Lamar doesn't get hurt? Winning a game without three #1 receivers?
You all still blame Lamar when the Ravens defense plays awful.
They sure do
The ravens defense over the 6 playoff games with Lamar average giving up 15.5 points. It ain’t the defense that sucks.
This proves Shannon is leagues above the ESPN commentators. Those guys are idiots. They dont understand what he's saying.
Those commentators played football as well so they know. Shannon blaming Burrows for what they defense can't do
They don't his comment wasn't about stats...it’s about going above what your team needed to try and win the game. He is the leader of his and the situation arrived he must adjust to what's needs to push his team to victory.
@@pjgt5364
Is that not what he did when he threw for 3 touchdowns and put 33 points on the board?? Did you expect him to go out and play defense as well alongside Hendrickson?
@@sentinal_entity It's the weirdest thing in the world. if you put up 33 points, most teams win. I love Shannon but he's being ridiculous.
Unc is wrong though. Not sure what league Unc is in but he is dead wrong. You are not winning many games if any games at all if you keep conceding 38 points a game. Insane.
Joe Burrow didn't give up 38 points but he did help put up 33 points. This is stupid and I'm not even a Bengal fan. And he did for go for 300+ yards and 3 touchdowns against the Commanders.
Thank you Shannon for calling out the bias with joe burrow. Look how the media talks about lamar jackson
Jalen hurts has been to a Super Bowl & Joe burrow don’t catch half as much criticism as him
He doesn’t have the complexion for protection
@@bonesawisready2865it’s obvious your community is raised by women.
Big facts
@@bonesawisready2865My sentiments exactly!
They both been tho
Nobody understands Shannon, it's really sad, cause he is absolutely right.
Is he 🤣🤣 what's Daniel's doing today? Just curious
Thank you Shannon for being the only honest one
Shannon finally speak the truth about burrow
Slow take
It’s crazy Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence aren’t getting any near the same scrutiny as Lamar or Jalen Hurts.. hmm
Finally, somebody holds borrow accountable
I can understand Shannon argument.. Brady threw for 505 yards in a SB but yet Nick foles dropped 41 points on belicheck defense 😂😂
@@jonsnipe5484 and no one ever brings up when Brady loses the games where they only score 14 points. Or when they win against the rams where he barely throws for 150 yards and gets all the credit.
What's your point?
Wins and Losses are SOLELY based upon QB play.
Find a game where the QB plays like trash but the team wins and Shannon is respectful of that QBs play....
@@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.Are u serious 😂 go look at tim Tebow
@@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.I mean…broncos after Peyton fell off the cliff after those surgeries caught up with him.
@@Lance_Thorpe_Esq. Challenge accepted. Burrow, Jan, 2022 AFCCG vs KC. Burrow played like trash, yet his team won. ta da!
Thank you Shannon when Lamar had 400 yard vs the chiefs no one said he played well or blamed his defense it was just a lost so keep that same energy for burrow the media loves burrow always protects him it’s time it stops
Shannon is basically saying we don’t hold Joe accountable for losing…. Tom Brady was literally Superman in the Super Bowl against the eagles and Bill Belichick’s defense gave up all those points and lost the game in the end. Brady took the blame and say he should have played better… Shannon is absolutely correct… Josh Allen knows when to turn it on … Lamar Jackson knows when to turn it on … Pat Homes knows when to turn it on … when those QB don’t we hold them accountable as well.
It's time to hold Burrow accountable they are 0-3 .....Too many FGs in the red zone some throws behind WRs ...But let this be Lamar the world would cave ....
😂😂😂
29/38 324 3 tds 10/10 155 against the blitz… lamar would kill to have those numbers.. hes not even in the same stratosphere
Facts!! We just want that same energy !
Blame lamar cause he know what time it is going up against mahomes. Lamar knows he can't kick field goals!
3 points is not going to beat mahomes when he getting 6 points each drive. SAS and them all would be saying that about lamar!
@@realngga0he kill to have Chase and Wiggin as WRz .. stop the cap
Regardless of winning or losing Burrow will always be a media golden boy. He won't get the criticism others get.
Lawerence or herbert either, dont forget purdy....teams not stacked, and coached by a guru they barley a starter to regular
Burrow took a team that was 2-14 to a super bowl in a 2-year span. Lamar came into one of the best ran organizations with a top 5 defense every year and hasn't sniffed a super bowl.
@@JediTigabecause blacks so badly want him to be the face of the nfl, but he will never get past the elite of the afc and they can’t stand it
If you think Trevor doesn’t get criticism you haven’t watched any clips today
Lol everyone hates Trevor Lawrence what are you talking about?
I’m definitely on the side with Shannon on this. Joe has had everything one QB could ever ask for. Obviously him getting hurt you throw that out but there’s no participation awards for beating Mahomes and almost winning. He has no excuse to get it done.
Then you’re slow
@@johnnydiabetes65632/4 in the red zone when you have Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins and you’re getting paid 50+ million a year?
Apart from an Offensive line. But please do carry on with your retarded argument. 😁
@@johnnydiabetes6563 nah y’all just don’t know what yal talking about
This segment was hilarious asf 😂😂😂
No one has ever got more credit for lossing a Super Bowl than Joe burrow
Facts smh
Bro literally😂
Most definitely it’s insane
Y’all didn’t have this same energy when Lamar’s defense gave up 20 points in the 4th quarter to the Raiders. Not to mention y’all saying if your QB put up 33 points they should win that game BUT they failed to mention that they was playing from BEHIND the ENTIRE game.
That prevent be working stat wonders for these qb's.....like million dollar wonders😂
Who’s ‘yall’ . Go back to your emotional community raised by women.
Lamar threw a crucial INT and didn't score in the 4th qtr. Burrow scored a TD on all 3 second half possessions.
@@gbrow1604Bateman dropped it and it wa picked off
@@ZxNCarry He threw into traffic where there was a high risk of an INT.
Shannon is 100% right, Joe Burrow only gets credit and NEVER criticism !!! Folks think he’s Jesus or sum
Same with mahomes bro
@@Lifewithjay-2hThe difference is mahomes deserves it
Mahomes deserves it Jason
Mahomes deserves it Jason
Lamar, Dak, Jalen, Geno, Kyler, etc doesn’t get the same grace as Josh, Joe, Justin, Baker, etc
We know why… complexion gives protection
Mahomes isn’t white
All black
Jalen hurts gets meant ridden non stop and he’s terrible. You people are like women whining about everything. You people really must believe you’re inferior. The whining is pathetic.
@@ch10adis that why blacks are released repeatedly after dozens of arrests by black DAs in every city in the country. You people are the whiniest, most pathetic demographic on earth.
UNC was right Brady and Peyton always say that you have to adjust to how the game is going as a QB
Shannon is dead right. If this were Lamar, Jalen Hurts, or Dak Prescott, they would have been saying a different tune.
and we ALL know why...
@@solomondonaldson1995 yup. Keep it real.
@@TJAvant95yes, because Burrow has been far better in the playoffs than Lamar and Dak. Jalen Hurts got to a SB and also gets tons of excuses like Burrow
@@dimitrythomas4158 no 😂😂😂
I love how blacks are basically admitting they are inferior at this point
5:56 This is the nuanced point that people seem to be missing. Game script matters!
They gonna get Shannon off this show. You can't talk about burrows Burrows is the great white hope they dying for him to win a superbowl. They just settling for mahomes for now.
I feel bad for people like you. Always got one thing on your mind. Grow man.
@@timothywoods4329 I feel bad for people like you. Keep lying to yourself
FACTS...
FACTS
Facts
Peyton Manning ,Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers was winning games despite bad defenses . Stop with that excuse , Shannon is right , burrow is getting paid 255 million dollars to win football games, not put up pretty numbers. He was outplayed by a rookie last night who both faced bad defenses
I mean sh*t Shannon got a point. If you making $55 Million a year, you better put that team on your back and do what you gotta do to win the game. WTF they paying that much money for? 💁🏻♂️
Right!
Score 40.
You have the weapons to do so
He scored on every drive in the second half. What more was he supposed to do?
@@gbrow1604 Like Shannon said, you have a $55 mil a year IQ. You should already get a feel by the first 15 minutes of the game on how the game is going to play out. Winners make plays. Obviously he didn’t do enough to get the job done.
"You're not petite... please sit down in the chair." Bwhahahahahahahahahaha Molly!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Shannon got a point... Brady will always be known for losing to Giants in superbowl.. there are critical plays during a game that a qb doesn't make... they can still have great stats.. belichick says stats are for losers lol
Shanon is actually keeping the same energy. I think he's a madman either way. But I appreciate the fact that he treats them all the same. The rest are very inconsistent.
I'm not calling a grown man Shay Shay but Shannon speaking big facts
Shannon is 1,000% right. He didn't score TD's. I watched that whole game.
😂😂😂what you want him to do throw, catch it, run the ball & play defense. The man throw over 300yrds with multiple TD & put up over 30 points. In what world does a QB play like that & gets blamed for losing 😂 stop it.
facts and he my fantasy qb too lol
@@Daffy_C empty calories, just like they said with Dak.
you sound as stupid as he did
@@Daffy_Cyou have to show up , you get paid the most and that team couldn’t stop a rookie QB , that tells the QB he’s gonna need to be greater then great to walk away with the W , the Bengals are 0-3 that’s enough said
Clear media Biased. Lamar and Hurts getting killed. Hurts had a bad defense all 2023. Bengals 0-3 and nobody calling out Burrow
@@kggraham9397 Hurts has literally only had 1 good season out of 4
@@kggraham9397 Lamar is cheeks when it actually matters
@@wilhelm4321since Jalen has been a starter he has brought his team to the playoffs all 3 years with a SB appearance and second in MVP rating. If he didn’t get hurt he would have won. Second highest QBR in a Super Bowl game. Last year in a down season he finished with 38 TDs second in the league finishing at 11-6.
@@wilhelm4321you’re bias against dual threat QBs. Go watch lacrosse
@@wilhelm4321same could be said for Burrow. What have they done other than the year they went to the Super Bowl?
Joe Burrow is healthy and they still making an excuse 🤦🏽♂️
Seriously
Yup mfa should of jumped on defense
How was yesterday his fault though? The first game was his fault. Second one of course Mahomes team get all calls. But yesterday Burrow defense was trash yesterday.
Because he's the new Dan Marino...
@@SamsP.O.V-hd7rbexcuses. Daniel’s scored tds, how come burrow couldn’t. Foh with the excuses boy
Shannon is 💯💯💯💯💯💯 right
Of course Swag & Jeff don't get it. They're talking to HOF player man. He laid the Brady example right out to them smh
Uuuuuuuuuh no! Cut it out!
I remember when Eli Manning was playing against the Saints years ago and threw 6 TDs in that game and still lost 52-49. So I guess that’s Eli’s fault too hun Shannon Sharpe🙄👎🏿
@vincente4570 maybe not but sound like breeze got it done, when both defenses were terrible, like jayden did last night
Jeff Saturday is gonna be a hall of fame goofy
@@Lsufan-20he ain’t in there rn lmao😂😂
Shanon is saying if the other team is lighting you ip scoring points then light them up and score even more points. Burrow should have lit the commanders defense since they could not stop tye bengals either. That is where Shanon is coming from
I have never seen a Quarterback that hasn't won anything be more protected by media than Joe Burrow Lamar played good game against Mahomes lost close all we heard is Lamar you gotta win that game.
Speak on it
Lamar has gotten 2 medias valuable player awards yeah he sure gets 'unfairly' criticized...
@@SunShine-xc6dh you gotta be special if you don't understand that lamar is public enemy #1 if he loses a game even if its not because of him
@@SunShine-xc6dhwhat’s yo skin color ? Be honest hillbilly
@@SunShine-xc6dh Cuz the media dont vote of that, they recognize that he accomplishes much with the fewest resources possible. Not elite WR, a somewhat available TE. On and off defense, top 5 one day, allowing 19 points in one quarter another day. Unlike Mahomes, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Burrow, Hebert, Stafford, Tua, and so many more who have top #10 weapons, he gets stuff done w/o them.
Two things can be true at the same time:
Yes, the media has a bias towards QB’s they like and they tend to cape for them when they don’t play well.
Yes, Joe Burrow played well enough last night for his team to win. The defense couldn’t stop a Rookie (Jayden Daniels) from calling.
Washingtons defense did not play great either. So no Burrow did not play great enough if a rookie qb was better.
@@brabea23 I see that perspective. I just don’t agree it’s that black & white. it’s nuanced since the QB can’t do everything by himself. like if this was basketball I would agree with you 100%
@@bo0gi32/4 in the red zone.
JeFF Saturday have cat eyes WOW LMAO
“What’s the matter with the chairrrrrrrr 👹.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's crazy how these guys don't understand Shannon's point. He's not blaming Burrow and saying he bad, he's saying he needed to do more last night because the defense was terrible, that's a completely fair statement to make for one of the highest paid players in the league. Saturday saying they want to force him to press, like yes! that's literally the point. If you're good enough to get paid so much, prove you're elite and force throws and make those throws, that's literally the definition of elite in football and what Brady did.
Seriously 🤦🏿♂️
A combined 6 time pro bowl and one superbowl between Spears and Saturday thinking they can size up to 3 superbowls worth of knowledge is beyond me.
Spears was never even a pro bowler 😂
Now yall see what it’s like for yo QB to be wrongly criticized 😂😂
Shannon was on fire this segment! Everyone else capping for Burrow
ydkb if you believe that
Shannon is right if it was Lamar they would blame him all day
If you lose 7-10 it’s the offense’s fault, because the defense did their job holding them to 10. If you lose 33-34 it’s the defense’s fault, because the offense did their job scoring 33.
If you really think it’s the opposite like Shay says here, that’s magical thinking and doesn’t agree with reality whatsoever.
Never attack the precious Joe Burrow or this is what you get lmao