What if the Netherlands Flooded in 1640?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2025
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Do it or I will kidnap Possible History and force him to release videos only about South Sudan!
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@@rewriting-historyhostage crisis
Earlier this month you did a maps Google drive are you releasing it again once your done making it again
It makes sense considering Danemark just had married into the royal family of Atlantis as documented in the historical documentary " the litte mermaid".
If the Dutch sank, we wouldn’t have anyone to do the weed joke with
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Germany has legalised it on the first of April, sooooooo
fortunately jamaica
Jamaicans
Colorado
PH really took the time to map out the HRE. Must have been painful, congratulations on achieving something like this because I literally can't imagine doing that
According to his Beyond Possible History video, he has done it multiple times.
I applauded at that moment.
There are multiple versions shown on his second channel
All because of a color dispute in Bulgaria
@@The_whales It's always because of some damned thing in the balkans.
@@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Like it's european Tradition
You really have to do a "What if everything went perfect for the Netherlands?" and a "What if the Netherlands managed to get ALL of the lowlands (It's larger than you think.) in the eighty years war?" now.
EDIT: What if all the Portugese colonies were succesfully stolen by the Dutch is also a great video idea. Thank you Willem van Oranje nummer 5724!
I was literally gonna say the same thing about "What if everything went perfect for the dutch"
@@chaosmaxkim It's a really interesting premise since we'd essentially making what many people consider an unimportant little country into a really powerfull country, beyond what we used to be.
Also it's a great oppertunity to show a bit of favouritism without it impacting the scenario much if at all.
Imagine how much more powerful the Dutch would have been if they had discovered the mineral wealth in South Africa.
@@ellismarquez8410 Oh, yes, that's also a good one.
He already did a "What if the Dutch united Germany?" which is ALMOST the same.
PH probably had a heart attack trying to make this video out of pure patriotism
As a canadian i can agree. I cried when i watched "what if everything went perfect for america"
The Netherlands gets transported straight to the Nether
No lands, all nether.
@@BelugaTheHuttthe “evil” version of the nether
I can’t believe you actually did it. 😂
Your videos are the most educational stuff I have ever watched, please never stop making them!!!
@@WorkersofAmericaRisebased
Im glad you highlighted just how overpowered owning both indonesia and india would make Britain, i had a similar thought myself when the idea of britain keeping it after the napoleonic wars was mentioned
ik its not what you asked but I'll tell you why they didn't taking Indonesia Short answer to create a stronger buffer against France bc in 1815 the UK was the stronger power in Europe and outside even number 2 (France) wouldn't be able to stand up to them so what's the point of destroying a potential buffer for a little more power we don't need?
17:47 Dutch-Buffed British makes Dutchman narrator bump his mike.
I love how we Dutch have this special love/hate relationship with water.
On the one hand most of our traditional hobbies (like ice-skating and sailing) are water-related, we erected many polders on lakes, were famous for overseas trade and seascapes have always been a popular subject in painting. On the other hand the sea can wipe us all out at any moment, so it all balances out!
Maybe the British would actually use the spices themselves this time
Dont be ridiculous
Pepper, we put it on everything
Perish the thought.
And the British become world reknowned for their cuisine
TBF they did, they just forgot how to lol.
It kinda freaks me out that every single althistory I’ve watched at some point has given his praises to Emperor Tigerstar, but I have never seen a single video of his, how good is he?
The problem is that his ideas are good but his videos are mid and his narration voice is bad
The Ocean finally wins 🌊🌊🌊
Rule ocean, ocean rules the Dutch
water never never will be slaev
"The Dutch getting wealthy"
God: *And I took that personally*
the thing i like the most about this is how Monarchies in all of Indonesia might have been retained thus making them the same as the more in the North Malaya.
Honestly, I don't think that's very likely. The Dutch tended to be relatively tolerant of local power structures, focusing mostly on trade and profits. If the Dutch didn't retain a local monarchy, whatever the reason might be, it's very unlikely that another colonial power would have.
early indonesia did keep their monarchies but those monarchies become equal as provinces. then some regional revolt by communists killed some of the monarchies and they lost the special status.
modern indonesia today still has one monarchy in the special province of yogyakarta, ruled by a sultan. imagine that, sultan inside a unitary republic.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 did you mean the 1949-1950 RIS(Republik Indonesia Serikat) or the time when Indonesia try to make a federation country?
@@LeyrannThe British also retained the local monarchies, both in India and Malaya
@@SanzzzzzzzzzAnytime before the 1960s
By that point, the communists have become so powerful to pressure the government to abolish the special status of the many local monarchies
The Sultan of Yogyakarta retained the special status due to how influential and how important the sultan himself is seen on helping Indonesia's independence struggle
Wait a minute you’re telling me that Emperor Tigerstar isn’t a cat?
Yeah he's a Tiger
Big cat
WARRIOR CATS FAN??
Really? I thought Emperor Tigerstar was an interstellar body.
Random bad event: *happends to a European power*
England: *STONKS* 📈📈📈
I always say “that if someone is making money some were a Dutch person is making a profit off it”, and Dutch history can be summed up as “It’s nothing personal, just business.”
In our timeline there were already tons of Dutch settlers migrating to Polish Pommerania to flee the war thanks to Polish tolerance, so I could imagine the Dutch merchants fleeing to Danzing or Courland
8:07 thats the teutonic order
Japan would also be completely isolated & Britain couldn’t replace that because of their relationship with Portugal
3:00 "historically speaking prime ministers aren't food"
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1k views in 10 minutes?! Possible history really is on top🎉🎉!!!
one very important thing that the dutch did very closely to the start of this timeline is that when charles x of sweden had copenhagen under siege the dutch rescued the city with their fleet without the dutch the city would likely fall meaning denmark (and norway) is now counquered by sweden which was charles x intention and no one exepct the dutch could really opose this counquest since england where in a civil war and sweden already was at war with austria brandenburg poland and russia and none of them could challange the swedish navy this results in a much stronges sweden if they could keep hold of denmark and would likely result in a better peace with the anti swedish coalition with maybe another peace of the baltic taken
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I may not be familiar with colonial history in Indonesia past, Dutch took over for hundreds of years until Japan popped up
I feel like it's weird to assume the British would just automatically be able to take over all of it
In the scenario he said that the Dutch east india company joins Britain willingly
it's not instantly, first the british take a much smaller part of the Dutch east indies then expand their hold of it (probably to compete with another power), like they did in india.
19:31 its the opposite way ; since the north part is submerged, flemish disappears
You forget the refugees
Does anyone know the name of the music at 2:53?
I have been looking for this exact piece for ages!
Thanks a lot!
3:04 The rest of the world when they don't like their ruler: impeachment
The Dutch: Yum yum
LOVING the map angles!
The maps looking great dude
I for one enjoyed the philosophical aspects of the analysis. While hard to map, it’s worthwhile to mention, and to think about!
I personally think that a significant portion of the Dutch Refugees and traders would go to Brandenburg Prussia
The Great Elector Fredrick William specifically tried to emulate the Dutch trading empire. I imagine he would jump to lure as many of the Dutch to build that dream.
Brandenburg-Prussia is a large majority Protestant state with significant coastal access. It is also a nation set up to grew into a great power given it would achieve this in our timeline within a century from this divergence point.
Those are going to be some seriously high fish.
7:03 Mymy from Ongezellig be like:
omg! it’s the new map! we love it bro!!
I wouldn’t exist
Same here.
As a Dutch Canadian, I wouldn't either
As a English man I would
As a Luso-Uruguayan I would...
I would be malaysian
nice to see the new map!
I love the new map! I watched the video on your other channel about it, and it looks great.
1:03 LOL
Internally for Britain, it strikes me that the Dutch traders could very well elect to relocate to Glasgow instead of London, with Scotland being Calvinist vs England's Anglicanism. That could have implications on British politics, it could accelerate Glasgow's growth and make it a rival to London for economic power earlier, and potentially Dutch expertise in trade and colonial ventures could allow Scotland to avoid the disastrous Darien scheme which bankrupted the country and led to the Act of Union.
I think Union would likely still have happened somehow, but the specific form of when and how would change. In this context perhaps a plausible candidate for Mary's marriage would have been a Scottish noble, since England would have wanted to strengthen the dynastic ties to Scotland to keep them aligned, and then the Scottish Lowlands form the main nucleus for rebellion against James just as the Scottish Highlands were the nucleus for rebellion against the Hanoverians.
Nice video!
Could you make a video on what if the Gallipoli Campaign was successful? As yesterday, the 25th of April was the 109th anniversary of the Landings at Gallipoli (More famously known as Anzac Day here in Australia, aswell as New Zealand and Turkey)
As an Aussie this would be epic
@@Raycist500 Lest we forget my friend.
I wrote a dissertation on this. Tldr, it was never meant to become what it was. The amount of focus it would have required was too much given the circumstances of the entente high command
Turkey celebrates Anzac Day?
@goldenfiberwheat238 yeah, they have a dawn service
Loved your video hit it made me guffaw when you pronounced Thames like "Thaymes" 😂
To be fair, he is a second language English speaker. I think he does really well overall.
Nah actually tho
It is a weird spelling tbf
@@TheDrumstickEmpire Oh agreed, I didn't mean it in a malicious way
Been watching since 7k, this is sooo good
You should do a scenario where the glorious revolution leads to an anglo-dutch union. This could happen by William III and Mary III having children.
1:14 it is tbh
Wouldn't it be more likely that the reduced and weakened Netherlands would gravitate towards some of the german states? Dutch is a low franconian language and some german dialects spoken back then are also low franconian, low german has some similarities too. Culturally the Netherlands aren't that different from northern germany either, I could see those regions building closer ties especially with the french being interested in both the Rhineland and parts or all of the Netherlands.
No more ongezellig 😢
Netherlands: I fear no nation, but that thing *points at the sea* It scares me!
Water: *Chuckles*
Bro you NEED to do a part 2 focusing on the religious consequences of this, I’d love to see a scenario about a Catholic Prussia and how It would impact German unification and the rivalry with the Habsburgs
Nah the world without the Dutch would be so depressing
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@@SorryAndSadno
We wouldn’t have PH 😭
No ongezellig
@Alan-by1pf in this world France is larger but no Belgium, I see this as win from our timeline. Small one, but still a win nevertheless
At 18:50, you showed the UK with half of Australia, but the only reason they didn't immediately take the other half was due to the dutch claim on it, right?
The Netherlands flooding even without global warming and it alone would be the bruhest moment in history
Do a what if history went perfect for Argentina
In this timeline, you would be Belgian.
i believe that would make Portugal try fight more for some of their eastern possessions, they didn't hold that much of land, but without the dutch they would certainly hold some extra land like Ceylon/Sri Lanka(as you mentioned) but also Taiwan/Formosa, this change of focus may also change who will get south Africa, as until this point the portuguese were the ones using the region around the cape town(Cabo da boa Esperança) and a more eastern focused portugal may change brazil a little, without the dutch fucking up the northeast sugar monopoly, portugal may don't get that much of interest in exploring inland brazil and find the gold in Minas Gerais, in fact, if the dutch blowing up like that, maybe portugal even lose interest in get independence from spain, as the dutch taking their colonies was one of the motives, and without that they maybe find less reasons to get revolt, however others great powers could try snatch portuguese possessions like the french or english(on the grounds that they are defending portuguese possessions), the lack of dutch may also fuck japan a little, as the dutch became the only western trading partners with them, so without the dutch, either japan is full isolated, or they would have to reconsider either making trade with Portugal, Spain or England. last but not least, i wonder how much Portugal would be willing to expand in the east, like try to regain possessions on the Persian golf or east Africa, get more spice islands or even find Australia by accident, anyways, cool concept regardless, I really like some of those "eerie" scenarios where something weird happen but everything is the same
1:27
“Sailed up the Thames.”
hmmm so the super strong France timelines are interesting, because France's hegemony in Europe is insane, but Britain has this godlike colonial empire, and the rise of Prussia and eventually Germany still seems very possible.
Suggestion: "What If Austria won the Spanish war of succession"
@13:17 A Danish prince did marry an English heir, just not Mary but her sister, Anne. However, despite their 17 or so attempts at producing an heir, their longest living child only lived to about the age of 11. Imagine the House of Oldenburg on the English throne in 1714 instead of our timeline's 2022 (as the House of Glückburg, Prince Philip's agnatic line, is a branch of the house of Oldenburg). So either the Danish prince Jørgen (or George in English) marries Mary instead or Mary marries a Swede or Prussian. Options seem limited.
Random off topic question: How many of y'all have the Mary-marry-merry merger either fully or partially? I think I as an L2 speaker merge Mary and marry but not merry.
the idea of a big Belgium is most curious
I think the most interesting variation of this scenario is France winning the war of the spanish succession, thus establishing dominance over europe, while Britain still becomes a colonial juggernaught with control over India, Indonesia AND America
17:44 mic hit
i like the new map dude!!!
The amount of yapping that you did in this video is amazing and the way that you went about it was beyond spectacular.You made my week.Thank you for being god bless 🖍 🖍 🖍
The Battle of the Boyne likely doesn’t happen either, this would change the histories for both Ireland and Britain 🇮🇪🇬🇧
Legends say in the universe this scenario takes place in, this video never gets released.
"What if Portugal got hit with a tsunami at the height of their empire" XD
what if florida sank in 1821? (best timeline)(world peace)
It would have been better if it never existed in the first place!
@PumpUpTheVolume4 This actually could've happened in our own history had God grown balls
If I could I would personally travel back in time to realise this
8:08 speaking of a Catholic Prussia: it would be interesting to explore an alternate timeline in which the crusader state in eastern Europe survives the medieval times and resist until the thirty years war, how eastern Europe would be affected by that? Will the kingdom of Brandenburg-Prussia still exists? And what about Poland?
What if Norway didn't Flood in 1640?
(Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
12:45 oh what a cursed idea
Now I kinda want to see a video on any of these other unions lol
Nice to know nobody has finished this video yet without speeding it up or skipping
This has to be the most unrealist scenario ever. The ocean will never win!
Bosnia in Adizzpro videos be like:
19:15 one must always look for a positive side
You should do a video on what if there was a prussian british union
I really like the covering of cultural shifts in this video, keep it up!
You should have talked a bit more about the crimes of the VOC
Indonesia mentioned!!!
What if everything went perfect for Portugal
Challenge make a positive alternative history scenario for the Dutch.
Difficulty: Impossible
that's the most based alt history it could ever happen
If the Netherlands sank, we'd never get Ongezellig by Studio Massa 😔
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If Dutch sank we sadly won’t have possible history
nah, he'd just be decended from the british
What about the war of 1812
Tsunami? Or a smallish asteroid in the little gulf there where the Dutch reclaimed all that land?
What would have happened if The Gambia had become Britain's new penal colony instead of Australia?
I'm sure that was its original purpose.
We could always just say that Mary marries a certain George of Hanover, and ensure that the only thing that changes in the line of succession is skipping Queen Anne.
Finally a good timeline
To me Antwerp would come back as northern Europe's biggest trade center which would enrich the catholic low countries (Belgium) a lot.
The new maps look great, 100% worth the effort
I hope there will be other Dutch-related scenarios as well, like what if the Dutch Republic survied or what if William of Orange was never assassinated.
Please just do an italy related video ive been commenting for monthssssss
What if everything went perfect for the Netherlands!
Technically the Europeans aren’t wrong to attribute the flood to god. It’s just that this god has a name and it’s EmperorTigerstar
Time traveller: moves a chair.
The timeline:
If a big storm hit North Holland it can look a bit like the coast line we hav seen here