Joni Mitchell’s Scandalous Past

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  • Life is tough, but Joni Mitchell is tougher. Mitchell has been through heartbreaks, tragedies, and feuds that would’ve broken anyone else. Instead, they drove and inspired her to create music that stands the test of time.
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  • @Factinate
    @Factinate  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Calling all Joni fans! Share your love in the comments below! 👇

    • @BIZARBIES
      @BIZARBIES 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can you do a story about the bastards of Jimi Hendrix?

    • @hushmoney2058
      @hushmoney2058 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But she Smoked Cigarettes ....

    • @MsZoedog66
      @MsZoedog66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Her music and her relationship with her daughter are most interesting to me. She is a strong woman, and I think that shows in her life struggles. Her particular vulnerability and way of learning to deal with life stuff via music is very interesting also.

    • @terywetherlow7970
      @terywetherlow7970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The way we women were treated back then! I hope she is well, yet. She got me thru same dark trials. I owe her a debt of gratitude, really.
      Maybe next life. Tee in N.M. Love you Joni❤

    • @terywetherlow7970
      @terywetherlow7970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@hushmoney2058So?

  • @Pearlruby718
    @Pearlruby718 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    What I learned the most from Joni's life is how much I appreciate my own life. Everyone has their own life's path. You can only be you.

    • @joleneloveland4602
      @joleneloveland4602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well said!

    • @birchsongsltd.6831
      @birchsongsltd.6831 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So excellent because it's true.

    • @johnpaul-mp7zc
      @johnpaul-mp7zc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true, Through our suffering we draw closer to God which is closer to love and peace

    • @tektako
      @tektako 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The difference is that her talent and art far exceeded any other aspect of her life and gave joy to millions far and wide. Its this that will be remembered for eternity not any mundane ordinary minutiae of her existence.

    • @carburetormike
      @carburetormike 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our suffering is the Creation’s way to make us learn how to deal with it. Whether right or wrong there are lessons to be learned. It’s part of our Spiritual evolution. Blessings to all !

  • @cindylewis3325
    @cindylewis3325 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Don’t normally watch these. A person’s personal life should stay that way. I found an independent girl fighting polio, a teen finding herself as we all did. Her talent gave her a way to make a living and we all make mistakes when it comes to love. Giving up her daughter must have been difficult but she did the right thing. Women of that time found it extremely difficult for make a living. We all live life the best we can. She is an amazing vocalist songwriter and beautiful woman. She lived life on her own terms. Not many can say that.

  • @The58stupot
    @The58stupot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I am 70 years old and have been a fan of Joni all my life. Listening to Blue still brings me to tears every time I hear it. She is very special.

    • @stuartewoldt1513
      @stuartewoldt1513 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Oh yes, I love love that album

    • @fuzzybutkus8970
      @fuzzybutkus8970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have a lot of child abusers and child deserters among your friends? Never fails to amaze. A person that would be considered a dereg of society it’s all excused because she can sing?? That’s just pathetic.

    • @ngairemartin9753
      @ngairemartin9753 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Me and you both dear❤

    • @lisadooney6739
      @lisadooney6739 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same!💔❤️‍🩹❤️👵🏻

    • @mirammckay4827
      @mirammckay4827 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am 71 years. I love he voice.

  • @SputDobt
    @SputDobt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Joni Mitchell: In Her Own Words by Malka Marom is a great read if you would like a deeper view into her life. It is very interesting and covers a lot of what is mentioned in this video in more detail.

  • @JE4-1
    @JE4-1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    I really don't know where to start with this artist. I have been listening to her for 50 years now and I hear something new every time. Her voice -- moving from the angelic, groovy of the '60's, to the folk-rock, rock and then deep-throated jazz of the late '70's -- is just mesmerizing. She has a tone and quality that is incomparable. She has a vibrato that has an ethereal quality about it. Then there is her guitar playing. I'm a jazz guitar guy. But Joni has had a big influence on my playing. Her voicings (she apparently has over 50 alternate tunings) are incredibly unique. Then there is her songwriting. Her ability to weave lyrics and melody are groundbreaking in every genre that she has pursued. If she had done nothing more than write the lyrics she would have been a genius. Take the lyrics to any song -- Woodstock, A Case of You, Amelia -- any song at all, and read it aloud. It's Shakespearian. How she has not been awarded a Nobel or Pulitzer for literature is baffling.! She should have received the Nobel AND a Pulitzer and any other award for creative genius in the arts that exist. So, so very unique, out of nowhere(Saskatoon) and into international prominence before her 25th birthday.My favorite songwriter/singer/musician of all time. Most special lady of all times. 🎼🎵🎶 ❣💜

    • @Factinate
      @Factinate  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      She really is one of the best to ever do it.

    • @gtaylor6937
      @gtaylor6937 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Brilliantly said - she is a singer & songwriter like no other. So many of her songs haunt you to your core. She can convey the most complex feelings and memories where you feel you were the one who lived them. A good number of her contemporaries have said that she was the greatest artist of their time. Who knows where that level of genius comes from? I just feel grateful that I got to live in a generation that she was in.

    • @teresavandyck784
      @teresavandyck784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Wow! Thank you for sharing. I really love her and was surprised when my son born in 80, knew her songs when they came on the radio, so I know she has appealed to many generations and for good reason. I was born in 49, so I came through one of the most amazing periods ever. It great to.hear how much people love Joni, i didnt know about the smoking.

    • @SageWhite-Rose
      @SageWhite-Rose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Giving a child up when you can't provide for them is LOVE. ❤

    • @teresavandyck784
      @teresavandyck784 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SageWhite-Rose yes, i believe it is too. I kept my first child I had at 18 and should have left him to better parents. I was a mess.0

  • @pbohearn
    @pbohearn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Like most great artists, Joni Mitchell is brilliant, but a mess and quite self-involved

  • @Larry-go8bg
    @Larry-go8bg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    One of the greatest artists of our time what she gave us with her music fuelled by the trials and tribulations of her life is mindblowing as it made her write and compose some of the greatest songs in the history of music God bless her.

  • @josephdrach2276
    @josephdrach2276 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    This is. not a scandalous past. Seems like she made some errors and had bad luck. She was a strong person and battles polio, a difficult family life and some real jerk men. She's a tough cookie.❤

    • @lynnboyd33
      @lynnboyd33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Like so many of these videos, it's click bate once again! Hell, just say Joni Mitchell and we will all watch it!

  • @chloescarf4097
    @chloescarf4097 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    taught myself to sing at 17 , sitting on the floor with my ear to the speaker , and ear train myself by learning every inflection note for note. She's shaped so many of us. other than Ella Fitzgerald I can't quite think of a 'female singer' who male musicians were more openly awed by.

    • @rnr5682
      @rnr5682 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Ella and Joni are 2 Peas in a pod, uncompairable!

  • @pooddescrewch8718
    @pooddescrewch8718 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I never bought the idea that Joni Mitchell was some sort of winsome ethereal faerie … she always struck me as fierce .

  • @jenford7078
    @jenford7078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I found her whole life a train wreck, but that a singer smoked 4 packs a day for years is amazing!

    • @markarchambault4783
      @markarchambault4783 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately virtually all musicians of that era smoked like chimneys. It's how Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull lost his great voice...

    • @lynnboyd33
      @lynnboyd33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As you've probably noticed, in early years, her voice was much higher and softer. Years later, after how many cigarettes, much deeper. Still sounds sexy and brilliant as hell!!

  • @duelenigma7732
    @duelenigma7732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    She's a great artist . She had a family who did not give her support . She saved herself from polio and much else without the benefit of a good balanced family . One learns to look after themselves and not put up with BS from the manipulating people around .when you've had to fend for yourself from the beginning . She is a survivor and gave us some great entertainment . Many thanks Joni :)

    • @LizBond-oq2hg
      @LizBond-oq2hg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Her choices of men says more about the men than her. Too talented for them.

    • @poempadgett4664
      @poempadgett4664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s bull.
      She was a beloved only child of two decent people and parents. They didn’t allow visitors in the polio ward at the hospital at times.
      Her mother brought her a Christmas tree and books and materials to draw with. I’m a longtime fan and have read a lot about her own words and interviews she has never said anything of the kind about her mother and father, only that they we’re understandably more traditional and old fashionedand didn’t know what to make of their headstrong, artistically gifted daughter.
      This guy, lol.

    • @terywetherlow7970
      @terywetherlow7970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@duelenigma7732 That was the upbringing for most of us back then. For better or worse. We went on to raise current 40 & 50 year old plus crop. Does it make sense yet? Lol

  • @davidmayhew8083
    @davidmayhew8083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Oh leave her alone! She suffered greatly for this and we should support her and all women who find themselves in such a situation. Men leave women to raise their babies all the time and nobody cares. The double standard always indicts women. Mitchell has given so much to so many people. God bless her and her child.

    • @debbymyers8606
      @debbymyers8606 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So agree

    • @michellesood4419
      @michellesood4419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for saying this because it needs to be said and remembered.
      You're one of the good ones in this broken world ❤

    • @KeithMartyn-np5ye
      @KeithMartyn-np5ye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I also support her totally leave her alone

    • @samanthashine4506
      @samanthashine4506 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      R u single?

  • @CarolLustgarten
    @CarolLustgarten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    A very talented singer and songwriter who experienced alot of loss betrayal disappointment and sadness. Also a bit self destructive by smoking 🚬 so much. And getting into dysfunctional relationships. But she was able to express it through her music 🎶. A truly amazing talent. Love her music. Love the song river. Love the album blue and so many others. 😊

  • @Carriedawayncaffinated
    @Carriedawayncaffinated 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I worshipped her growing up..her songs ..through every teenage angst.. metaphorically .. poetically..defined my entire adolescent life..and now at 62..i play her songs now and then..and they still hold up..and surpass most today..some new songstress is always touted as , "the NEW Joni Mitchell...and not one...in all the years since..has measured up.. Joni is a genuis..a rarity that comes along only once in a lifetime..

  • @stuartlee8041
    @stuartlee8041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Self Obsession is a blindness, those afflicted can never see themselves , they're to be avoided more seriously than salmonella...

  • @billyoshea4667
    @billyoshea4667 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The idea that this story first emerged in 1995 is nonsense. 'Blue' came out in 1971, with the track 'Little Green'. Anyone who heard that song knew exactly what had happened. There were no 'clues' to be deciphered: she stated it completely openly.

    • @bettinahooper5344
      @bettinahooper5344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Exactly so; “you sign all the papers in the family name. You’re sad and you’re sorry but you’re not ashamed.” In a song about being abandoned with a baby.

  • @docdurdin
    @docdurdin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Creative people aren't happy unless they are creating drama that fuels passion, for bad or good, it doesn't matter. The human experience. That she lived through it and survived is her most shining accomplishment. The music and art are her gift to those who share the same joy or misery. No beer or wine is needed, let the tears flow.

    • @tinaabbott1035
      @tinaabbott1035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes no beer or wine needed let the tears flow you said it well!!!!!!!!

  • @lisagrl89m.67
    @lisagrl89m.67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I'm 53 yrs old and grew up listening to Joni through my parents starting in the 70's.❤❤

  • @MaryGaleno
    @MaryGaleno 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    You will always be loved Joni! Everyone has their own story. Thank you for what you've given me! Love and Peace, Mary

  • @chris55529
    @chris55529 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'll give this guy one thing for sure: "a match made in convenience" is a helluva good line. Hemingway's ghost might have been hovering around when he wrote that line.

  • @Markos-yk1lw
    @Markos-yk1lw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I began studying music at age 7. Music major at UW and studied at the Wisconsin Conservatory and played semi professionally in three states. Quintessential music puts me in a fever that resembles a euphoric drug. The Borodin Quartet. Katia Buniatishvili, Miles Davis, Herbie, Chick, and George Martin. My all-time favorite album? The extraordinarily versatile DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER,. Joni Mitchell is an arch-genius. Lyrics, instrumentation, the polio conditioned unique tuning on her guitar, from Canada, but a national treasure for America. Mnoga let!

  • @lyndabrushia804
    @lyndabrushia804 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Had never heard about Kelly before but had always felt the song "Little Green" was about something like this. Joni's music & lyrics have touched me more than anything ever & probably always will.

  • @dianedengos4346
    @dianedengos4346 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Joni was a mess but that’s what made her music!

  • @rebekahlafever333
    @rebekahlafever333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    ❤Thank you❤

  • @abrahamulagay4495
    @abrahamulagay4495 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I couldn’t see anything scandalous but a lovely documentary with beautiful photos, thank you so much for sharing it 🌿🕊️

    • @terywetherlow7970
      @terywetherlow7970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@abrahamulagay4495 in those days those of us caught pregnant without being married were considered the worst of the worst....they let you know on the daily,too.

  • @marvinbone1379
    @marvinbone1379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I waited on tables in the late 1970s in a dive-place in Santa Monica, where she would have lunch about once a week. We DREADED waiting on her. She was a blatantly mean-as-hell customer. We had a waitress that had lost a baby and returned to work. On her first day back...here comes Joni Mitchell. The waitress ended up leaving that day, in tears, didn't even come back for her money. Mitchell had harassed her endlessly that day, and she couldn't take it.

    • @joleneloveland4602
      @joleneloveland4602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Although it's never right to take your problems out on another, she probably had tremendous pressures to deal with and was still learning the proper way to deal with those pressures when experiencing a meltdown. We all have had those not so proud reactive days and they are contagious, unfortunately. I think along the way she grew to understand that we all are not that much different from each other
      Lashing out is born of great hurt and at some point in our lives we learn that inflicting it on others only causes more pain to go around. I know it is not excusable, but it is something we learn about and hopefully overcome in life. Perhaps that was what she was learning in those unfortunate times at your place of work. She seems to value and treasure people these days.❤

    • @fdpcompdm
      @fdpcompdm หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joleneloveland4602 not excuse to be shiityyyy

  • @SuzanneBaruch
    @SuzanneBaruch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Watching this video inspired me to re-listen to all the songs mentioned and two things really hit me: 1) what an amazing talent she is; and 2) that today's "music" is total cr*p.

    • @michellesood4419
      @michellesood4419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Haha...Great comment and so true!

    • @lynnboyd33
      @lynnboyd33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I could give you 10 stars for that oh so true comment!!

  • @davisworth5114
    @davisworth5114 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nothing is worse than a gossip, you are low.

  • @ronaldlongendyke3313
    @ronaldlongendyke3313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Nice video, thanks for posting. What they fail to tell you about her relationship with Graham Nash was that Graham was married the whole time with a wife back home in England. I think the song "Conversation" mentions her dislike for Graham's wife.

    • @lynnboyd33
      @lynnboyd33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Awww, Im so saddened to hear G. Nash was already married. That can explain an awful LOT! Looking at the two of them together, I always thought what a remarkable pair. And wondering what had gone wrong. Ive seen a lot of stories about them, and they have never mentioned him already being married.

  • @lynnboyd33
    @lynnboyd33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I have always loved this woman and every one of her amazing songs, for as long as I can remember (50 years, at least). I had read her book about her life's ups and downs so a lot of this wasn't new to me. I just am mesmerized by how she keeps getting knocked down, but always getting back up again. And the best part is her songs, as you had said, reflect so much of her insides. I'm also insane over her amazing art works, so many of her album covers. This talented woman can do it all. And yet, deeply saddened by her mother/daughter relationship that fizzled out.

    • @terywetherlow7970
      @terywetherlow7970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lynnboyd33 when I learned of a daughter out in the World, I remember hoping it might have been me ( stolen/ switched at birth was a thing.) Nope. Love her still. Tee in N.M.

  • @DesperateForSanity
    @DesperateForSanity 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This lady has a mystical quality about her persona and her music that people connect to on a spiritual level. If I hear one of her songs in a shop as I'm leaving, I go back into the store and mill around until it ends; it's weird, but it's like an invisible thread is pulling me toward the music. Seeing this piece connected a few of the dots for why I've always felt such a strong personal connection to her. Genius has its price.

  • @frisk151
    @frisk151 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Can't believe she actually survived those times...

  • @science4ever025
    @science4ever025 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The only scandalous information: she had a baby and put it up for adoption. The end.

    • @joleneloveland4602
      @joleneloveland4602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the insinuations to get you click onto this story are much more scandalous and solicitous than Joni could ever think of being.
      For her fans, and she has many, the sensationalism is not needed. She is a fascinating woman with a brave heart and humongous talent who dealt with life's problems the way we all have to deal with the problems that come along with life 😮😮😂❤

    • @Patricia-d8r3o
      @Patricia-d8r3o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She did not put it up for adoption. Her daughter was signed over to foster care. That is a hard heart.

    • @science4ever025
      @science4ever025 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@Patricia-d8r3oI meant that the title drew you in, but offered little. I was being sarcastic about the writer, not that she put her daughter up for adoption. That wasn’t scandalous, it was pretty sad.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was a single dad for 15 years.Tell me about it.@user-hr3dx1ov3s

    • @BridMhor
      @BridMhor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Patricia-d8r3o Her daughter was put up for adoption. Joni allowed the foster parents to adopt her.

  • @peternewman1179
    @peternewman1179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I don’t give two hoots about Joni Mitchell’s personal life. That’s HER business and HER cross to bear. I DO absolutely love her music, her poetry, and was majorly as a musician, influenced and guided musically by her incredible offerings. I think that even those who pry into her personal life would be horrified if the same was done to them. They are Narcissists, and hypocrites. If you want the real Joni Mitchell, listen to her beautiful vast catalogue.

    • @darkstar67ort
      @darkstar67ort 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @peternewman1179, I agree 100 percent. David Crosby helped her to get over her stage fright without drugs. If I were 27 years older I would have made it my goal to date and possibly marry her, taking away the pain of all of her blues.

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If her personal life wasn't do bad her music wouldn't have been do good. Except for going jazz. I can't stand jazz

  • @AnnMarieMazzella
    @AnnMarieMazzella 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our music in so many ways has been my inspiration through times in my life. Sometimes I would feel like she was writing my song.

  • @rickyrrag3750
    @rickyrrag3750 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Always Joni
    The Best , as composer as human being , may God bless her ever and forever

  • @johnfenwick7641
    @johnfenwick7641 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Joni Mitchell is truly what most musicians and all of us strive for in this life the spirit of freedom to
    explore and understand just what is truly amazing life we live is all about. I had the awesome experience of working the sound system at a very small college outside NYC in 1969 one of the shows that appeared there that year was Joni and she performed with Stephen Stills that night this Gym held about 400 people that night so it was like having these two great performers playing in your living room very close and intimate I can close my eyes and still hear the music of that night and I thank the Lord for putting me in that place so I could experience the wonderful music of that night at the end of the evening they both came up and thanked us and shook hands I was in heaven. I have worked and seen many many concerts and shows in this long journey of love with rock music since the first day I listened and fell in love All artists search for something in their souls just as we do maybe it’s an illusion maybe not the freedom of expression is something I hope we never lose God bless Joni and like you said in a song We Are All just prisoners of the white lines of the freeway 🛣️

    • @michellesood4419
      @michellesood4419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow! What an amazing experience and one of many by the " sound " of it...pun intended lol.
      I'm glad I read your comment.
      Thank you for sharing this.
      🌻

    • @lynnboyd33
      @lynnboyd33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow! Your comment just gave me goosebumps! So well said, you lucky soul!

  • @PC-dc1kv
    @PC-dc1kv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You didn’t say anything about her ending up in a wheelchair with Post-Polio Syndrome.

  • @markarchambault4783
    @markarchambault4783 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Despite her flaws I will always appreciate Joni and her music. I recommend looking up her 80s era concert with a young Pat Metheny, Lyle Mays, Michael Brecker and Jaco Pastorious.

    • @joleneloveland4602
      @joleneloveland4602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That was some huge awesome stuff, in fact legendary. I saw them play together. Each so talented in their own right, never musically distracting from the other. The power of that collaboration was pure magic chanelling the ever vast song of the angels and our Creator him or herself..❤❤

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist
    @TRHARTAmericanArtist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "Joni comes first!" - Joni Mitchell

  • @grai
    @grai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    she wrote some great songs but was basically a narcissist which is why no-one stayed around her for long

    • @janefrancis2321
      @janefrancis2321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WTF are you talking about? She was/is a genius. She was a young woman pregnant in a time and a she had no support
      The.men didn't feel they had those kinds of decisions to make..She knew she had a massive talent. Thank God we have her lifetime of work.

    • @grai
      @grai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@janefrancis2321 Absolutely
      but look at the interviews on TH-cam
      she's a complete narcissist
      Everyone is at fault except her
      Her work after the 80s was weaker than the amazing 60s and 70s output and was less successful but she blamed the music industry and sexism and ageism
      In one interview she was asked about constant comparisons to Bob Dylan and said "it would be more accurate to compare me to Schumann"
      She was deadly serious!

    • @RobertTevault-b1n
      @RobertTevault-b1n หลายเดือนก่อน

      She might have been referencing Robert Schumann's unhappy personal life. Schumann isn't know for any astonishing musical breakthroughs as far as I know, although he did recognize such in, say, Chopin.

  • @teresavandyck784
    @teresavandyck784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow! I had no idea. So many men would have loved t😅 be with Joni, i know Robert Plantvwas like jello when he finally met Joni. He was totally intimidated by her; like speechless!

  • @wf1g
    @wf1g 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    A souless bullet point assessment of the greatest muse of the 20th century.
    She influenced more amazing musicians than breaths you've breathed.

    • @Patricia-d8r3o
      @Patricia-d8r3o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Non of that matters if her daughter suffered

  • @Beenthere61
    @Beenthere61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love her so much I still listen to her now, she is an amazing woman . I wish I could meet her & just talk with her about her journey in this life, look at her artwork. Would love to listen to her stories…..🙏♥️🦋🇨🇦🌹✌️

  • @bonnielucas3244
    @bonnielucas3244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Never stay around a guy who hits you. Get far away

  • @subrosa4792
    @subrosa4792 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I saw her with Van Morrison & Bob Dylan, she put on a great performance! All three of them singing together was a real treat, even if Dylan didn’t sing all that well…

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dylan always sings well

  • @MsTdougherty
    @MsTdougherty 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I love Joni. I am 70 years and I’ve been a fan of hers since 1969 when I was 15.

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She was a victim of DDT poisoning, the greatest mass poisoning of humanity (and animals) in history. Viruses don't exist, including polio and rabies - both caused mostly by DDT. I love Joni's music, she is lightyears beyond Dylan and most of the others.

  • @5naxalotl
    @5naxalotl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this is a really good story but an unfortunate headline. her past isn't scandalous. it's the story of how broken people struggle with relationships. and it's certainly a triumph to have all that success with the odds so heavily stacked against her

  • @Richard-sc7yq
    @Richard-sc7yq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This may be the most informative video ever about the life of Joni Mitchell. I saw her amazing live performance of "Coyote" with The Band in Martin Scorsese's documentary, "The Last Waltz" (the concert occurred in San Francisco on November 25, 1976). However, when I think of Joni Mitchell, only two things come to my mind--(1) her hit song "Help Me" (released in March of 1974), and (2) and her lifelong refusal to quit smoking cigarettes.

    • @tinaabbott1035
      @tinaabbott1035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw that documentary as well simply loved it and the song help me what a beautiful song cannot believe she suffered polio at a young age my grandmother had Polio as well back then at those times she walked with her hand on her knee until the 70s the doctor put a brace on her bad leg my grandmother always told me I was her legs because I always helped her Joni was a great songwriter as well a beloved singer

    • @jenpryce6318
      @jenpryce6318 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about the AI voice, it's appalling? Certainly not something Joni would approve of.

  • @Curlyblonde
    @Curlyblonde 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The Canadian Media hid and ignored much about Joni's history and life intentionally. The little that they did put out of course was a Walt Disney invented version and sterilized to protect her image.
    The Back to Nature, barefoot, wandering through the world as an innocent, pure, simple-living Flower Child worried about the environment was the image promoted as I recall.
    Thank you for providing us with a more honest, actual portrayal of her life and career. Her life in her younger years was typical of the Haight-Ashbury Hippie Lifestyle that was idolized. Many eventually grew out of it or had to reform their lifestyle habits for health reasons or died not trying. She was a hold-out and managed to survive into old age despite the lifestyle.

  • @geraldfriend256
    @geraldfriend256 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wild that two notoriously difficult artists( Joni and Jaco) got on so well in their collaborations

    • @brucestrachan3574
      @brucestrachan3574 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did they really?
      That's good to learn
      'cause I love 'em both.
      But I thought Jaco,
      although insanely talented,
      got on her nerves a bit
      with all his un-choreographed soloing.

  • @primesspct2
    @primesspct2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    She is like many artists, only concerned for herself and her career. Her emotions were the only ones that counted to her, which makes for brilliant art, but turbulent relationships. I admire her battle against polio immensely, but I think you hit the nail on the head when you said she took that "battlefield mentality" that got her through polio into everything else she ever did. To be so blessed and talented, and revel in self pity is very selfish and says a lot about her. More shocking was how she treated her daughter. Once again only her anger, her feelings mattered to her, Sad, but true of many artists.
    I say that as an artist, from a family of artists .... maybe if i only thought of myself, I would have accomplished more! lol

    • @subrosa4792
      @subrosa4792 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Goodness is the greatest accomplishment.

    • @ayushisharma162
      @ayushisharma162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are an insane person with zero understanding of nuanced grey areas of life

  • @TheElizabethashby
    @TheElizabethashby 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    HER VOICE

    • @nathanielovaughn2145
      @nathanielovaughn2145 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like nails on the chalkboard. Horrendous.

  • @paulaartandmusic4412
    @paulaartandmusic4412 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really love “ A Case of You,” Woodstock” and many others. Joni Mitchell is one of my favorites! Thank you, Joni for the joy you brought us through your beautiful music.❤️

  • @SueNielsen-g9x
    @SueNielsen-g9x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting that few make musicians are demeaned for their poor choice and number of sexual partners (eg Tom Jones). Hard to imagine a man who would be her match, and of course she is self involved. What great artist is not. TG for all that - produced some of the greatest music of the 20th century

  • @Maya-Alexdog
    @Maya-Alexdog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She is unbelievably gifted

  • @jackalopejane2021
    @jackalopejane2021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was disappointed that you did not mention the effect of post-polio syndrome on her coping abilities in her later adulthood. I also had polio in 1954, and I know it colors all aspects of my life and coping now.

  • @Allan-ts1ux
    @Allan-ts1ux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Joni Mitchell was above and beyond the music of the times and at the same time the very heart of

  • @terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432
    @terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I find the Scorpio and Gemini mix in Joni s chart very telling of the need for balance in opposing extremes.

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And explains her antagonism to Dylan.
      I'm sure that you'd know that's a Quincunx aspect

    • @terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432
      @terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Chapps1941 I'm not tooting my horn ....you are.

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432 l was in agreeance with you!

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432l was backing you up and you get that I'm tooting. I'm not sure how you arrived at that

    • @terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432
      @terrisavibbertwithoutpreju4432 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Chapps1941 thank you For backing me up, I appreciate that. However, I'm continuously stalked on TH-cam and I rarely received any positive feedback so I'm very grateful to finally receive something positive.💜

  • @ampavoo
    @ampavoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    BIG FAN

    • @Factinate
      @Factinate  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks!

  • @Want0nS0up
    @Want0nS0up 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am certainly a fan of Joni‘s music. However, the challenges and trials which seemed to be beset her over the years, had one common factor, Joni. In a showbiz world of narcissistic people, Joni sounds like the ultimate narcissist.

  • @Christine-g9i
    @Christine-g9i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A true artist can only love art. Joni can do no wrong in my eyes.

    • @Patricia-d8r3o
      @Patricia-d8r3o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And her art has no value if her daughter suffered

    • @swerne01
      @swerne01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. and that's a blessing and a limitation.

  • @highstreetradiocafe5448
    @highstreetradiocafe5448 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the best of Joni? HER ARTISTRY WITH HER SONGS!

  • @underthetornado
    @underthetornado 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wouldn't call her past scandalous!! She overcame struggles. Joni is a genius. An amazing creator of art!! I share her Birthday. I was lucky to meet and do some work with her friend/ producer, Henry Lewy. He took me to her home in Topaga one day but she wasn't home. I would have loved to have met her. I would have been proud to call her a friend. But it wasn't meant to be. Sigh😢...lol. I'm a songwriter/performer. Never got as far as I wanted. But...I was born too late. I'm 10 years behind all the folk writers. Oh well❤

  • @timturner36
    @timturner36 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That Drummer John was the great John Guerin. Her "Court And Spark" LP features John and the LA Express. Amazing life and and talent. I am blessed that I happened to meet Joni in 1976 and play some horrible original songs for her LOL!

  • @eustacecourage7478
    @eustacecourage7478 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I keep coming back to what I once heard................."Admire the art,NEVER the artist."

  • @westwingr
    @westwingr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hejira. I listened to that album over and over again when my ex and I went through a bitter divorce. Especially the title song and Amelia. Kept me sane. Thank you Joni.

    • @audioguy8041
      @audioguy8041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heijira is one of the greatest albums of all time. It truly moved me. When a friend of mine didn’t like it and even mocked it I was speechless

  • @tamaradjinnise1047
    @tamaradjinnise1047 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Smoked four packs a day when she was pregnant the 2nd time! My God! There's 20 cigarettes in one pack. 80 cigarettes a day!? She smoked 560 cigarettes a week! 2,240 cigarettes a month.

    • @hoboonwheels9289
      @hoboonwheels9289 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      25 cigarettes per pack in those days, shrink flation.

    • @Curlyblonde
      @Curlyblonde 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And drank heavily too.
      I'm sure she didn't refuse any of the drugs that were easily available around those times. The free-thinking, loose-living entertainment industry was fuelled and inspired by their druggie lifestyle.
      No room or time for her to be a mother to her daughter. The daughter would just have been in the way with her lifestyle.

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nobody really knew about Booze + cigarettes during pregnancy
      Till much later

    • @staciejackson7497
      @staciejackson7497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@renatatarnawski5974they did in the eighties.

    • @markarchambault4783
      @markarchambault4783 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unfortunately most musicians back then smoked like chimneys.

  • @ceilconstante640
    @ceilconstante640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    She's extremely talented! I had no idea the tremendous life challenges she had. That's interesting to hear she called Jackson Browne a Narcissist. I know very little about the lives of most celebrities. I hope you'll cover him in rhe future. Great job narating and presentation.

    • @bethewalt7385
      @bethewalt7385 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jackson Brown is an azzhole, he used to date Daryl Hannah, when she was a teenager, he saw her in the audience at one of his shows, she broke up with him because he regularly beat her up, bruised and battered she moved on, he's a total jerk, insecure, emotionally immature, a complete narcissist for sure...plus his "music" founder of the rolling wimp revue😂😂

    • @charlesdrake3125
      @charlesdrake3125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's been said that her song Not To Blame from 1994's Turbulent Indigo album is about Jackson Browne. He was in a relationship with Daryll Hannah that allegedly got pretty ugly.

  • @cbliss
    @cbliss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My Mom had polio at 9 and sang locally with her sisters

  • @robertcombs55
    @robertcombs55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God Bless this wonderful woman....

  • @dr.davidgerstenaminoacidth2421
    @dr.davidgerstenaminoacidth2421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s pretty easy to find trauma in many (or most) famous musicians. Joni is a genius. She plays almost 50 different porn guitar tunings. Her lyrics are stunning and her melodies are memorable. As a songwriter I listen to Joni and Jimmy Web when I want to push my own boundaries. It’s not a bad video but it’s easier to sell pain and drama than beauty.

  • @chemmii
    @chemmii 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whether it be Joni Mitchell, Crosby still and nash, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, or numerous other writers, musicians, my only interest is what they produced..!! That is what will stand the test of time..!!

  • @Ms.T
    @Ms.T 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Joni Mitchell never lies...

    • @greglpc-s6178
      @greglpc-s6178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She criticised Bob Dylan for being fake and mercenary like. She was the ultimate selfish Boomer.

    • @LisaOutrequin
      @LisaOutrequin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She wanted to put people who doubted the "health" narrative in camps. Once upon a time, the counter culture was counter culture.

    • @readhistory2023
      @readhistory2023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@greglpc-s6178 She's not a Boomer, she was born in 1943. Hating on people beause they were born in a certain time period? You make racist's look like rocket scientsts.

  • @kerrykitterman4602
    @kerrykitterman4602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The. Best part is in. Laurel canyon, With Graham Nash ..Our House. 😊😮 .she was a big part of That scene 😮 .zwow. what A. Time, for music . Wish I was There 😂 .

  • @Simon-pl2zi
    @Simon-pl2zi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hmm not exactly a 'scandalous past'

  • @rory8585
    @rory8585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn’t know Joni got pregnant by Larry Klein. I’m sorry she miscarried.

  • @strathernian
    @strathernian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seriously? This is your considered biography of Joni? This is the best that you can do? I have one word. Vacuous.

  • @dennisangeloni2990
    @dennisangeloni2990 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Joni has always been an incredible talent. One of the all time best.

  • @tony.bickert
    @tony.bickert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So cigarettes caused the miscarriage? Source, please. Also, no scandal here unless you’re an evangelical. Do not judge this amazing lady, please. Thank you.

  • @lararain2801
    @lararain2801 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Joni I was a hippie kid listening to my hippie mum playing your vinyl in various cottages we lived in deep in mid Wales....When i found myself pregnant at 18 both my mum & myself knew if my child was a girl we would call her Joni. She's37 now 🙂 Sadly my mum & myself relationship also hit the rocks, we no longer talk but Joni Mitchell's music is always our bond although we are apart.

    • @LindaStoronsky-yk4df
      @LindaStoronsky-yk4df 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please heal the riff. It is wonderful to have extended family. God bless.

  • @12thDecember
    @12thDecember 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I liked some of her music (You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio), but was never what you would call a fan. Honestly, after watching this video, she strikes me as somewhat of a narcissist.

  • @blazefairchild465
    @blazefairchild465 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very well done ,I enjoyed this video about JoniM. It is about the fullest rundown of her life loves. I wish there was a bit more about her daughter & how many grandchildren. Also Joni’s health issues later in life.

  • @HopeIanHope
    @HopeIanHope 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She didn't dump David, David dumped the tart.

  • @Swelte
    @Swelte 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    My favourite Canadian musician besides Neil Young.

    • @Factinate
      @Factinate  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🇨🇦

    • @Chapps1941
      @Chapps1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Young, Mitchell and Lightfoot all had aneurysms, are Canadian and all 3 are Scorpios

  • @WhiteyMcCracker
    @WhiteyMcCracker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll always think of her as one of the world's greatest female smokers.

  • @staciejackson7497
    @staciejackson7497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don’t think Graham ever got over her.

  • @olecranonrebellion9976
    @olecranonrebellion9976 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So Joni was a narcissistic self centered person. Who knew?

  • @tinabirdshafer
    @tinabirdshafer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As time goes by a few things will be remembered from the 70s, and late 60s, the Beatles, bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell

    • @richardstocks7445
      @richardstocks7445 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      what about Paul Simon?

  • @judifinigan2318
    @judifinigan2318 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love her music!

  • @dianedengos4346
    @dianedengos4346 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Good that she gave the baby up

  • @marthaj67
    @marthaj67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This channel should change its name to "Stories of Self-Absorbed Celebrities and The People They Inevitably Let-Down" 🙄

    • @joleneloveland4602
      @joleneloveland4602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are all a work in progress. Even celebrities. Even me and even you. It all depends on what day and time we are 'dialed up'. We can not walk a mile in their shoes. It's probably best that we stay home on those days, but the world doesn't stop turning when we have to answer to many.
      Some learn, some never do. A course in etiquette and manners may help along the way but hopefully at some point we learn to 'get over ourselves' and then learn the real reasons that we are here. Nothing in this life is all black or all white. Life would be much easier if it were.

  • @WansonHemphill
    @WansonHemphill 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love you joni. your voice lights up a room. Keep on Beleving.

  • @joleneloveland4602
    @joleneloveland4602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ii takes great courage because there are so many judgemental people out there. And you can not become concerned what others think at risk of losing yourself and your heart. And that is everything. ❤

  • @MichelleGormley-c2d
    @MichelleGormley-c2d 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing lady! Except for the cigarettes. I too had polio and applaud her courage and spirit!

  • @Nature_guurrll
    @Nature_guurrll 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I find most fascinating: The generational trauma in Joni’s lineage is heavy duty!! All these people are here trying to work it out 💜.

  • @EuphemiaGrubb
    @EuphemiaGrubb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was dissappointed when I found out about her giving her daughter away.
    I remain so.