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SCRAP MECHANIC SURVIVAL
Scrap Mechanic is an all-new creative multiplayer sandbox game which drops you right into a world where you quite literally engineer your own adventures! Choose from the 100+ building parts you have at your disposal and create anything from crazy transforming vehicles to a house that moves. You’re even able to team up with your friends to create amazing things together: in Scrap Mechanic, you’re the master creator of anything you can imagine!
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Here’s the deal: you’re a robot maintenance mechanic en route to your posting on a fully-automated agriculture planet. Your job is to take care of the worker robots as they work the land, sending the food they produce to the metropolitan planets. Thing is, close to touchdown your spacecraft loses control and crashes, but since you’ve got luck on your side (erm…), you survive! You’re stranded though, and at first glance you find that not everything’s quite as it should be. The Farmbots working the fields have gone crazy, and now there’s only one way to stay alive: using your quick thinking, your creativity and your wily knack of turning your surroundings to your advantage.
Let’s pop the hood and see what’s on offer right now:
Gender!
Choose between playing as a male or female mechanic.
Parts ‘n’ Blocks!
Scrap Mechanic comes loaded with over 100 parts. Some with unique shapes and sizes, but all giving you the power to basically create anything you want.
Interactive Parts!
The interactive parts that let you put your creations in motion represent the very best and most exciting parts of Scrap Mechanic! With a wide range of parts and an array of functions from gas and electric engines to thrusters, sensors and buttons, you’ll never be bored with the tools at your disposal!
Handbook!
Your Mechanics’ Handbook is your trusty educational friend, with you from the start and dying to be read! Flip trough its pages at your leisure to learn the basics of building in a easy way.
Connect Tool!
The tool that brings everything together and makes it all happen. A must for any true mechanic!
Lift!
Lightens the load when building creations with physics in mind. Let it lift you - and your creations - higher!
Sledgehammer!
Whack loose parts and watch them fly. Smacking physics around with the hammer is great fun.
It sucks that the game isn't made to support builds like this. Watching that thing eat trees was the most satisfying thing I've seen on the internet in a long time.
This is gaming for the last few decades. I push the games until they break then move on cuz I cant go any further. But I'm actually pretty happy. This is honestly leaps and bounds above any game a decade ago.
even if my controller car did fly away last night...
I really can't believe that the bed thing is where their priorities are. They have way more important things to get working right or better and adding more content like John said. Its nuts that disposable beds is an idea and getting implemented before everything else.
@@PablitoCristo agree ive stopped playing it altogether because of the poor mechanics in the game
Chris McIntosh yea I've stopped and am giving them time before going back to playing it to see if they can make it better
Best tree eater design I have seen yet.
"Shove it in the hole - DO IT!!! DO IT!!!! DO IT!!!!"- JohnBane 2020
Yeah, I just started playing Satisfactory and it's much better than I thought at first. Scrap that, I love it!
It's a great game, indeed!
Yeah, very good game. Better with friends!
Scrap mechanic is one of those games you could go wild on huge creations, but sometimes the optimal solution is often the simplest.
And that makes the game boring. I could make simple creations to do the jobs, but the fun isn't there for me if that's what we have to do.
Welcome back, John. I hope you are feeling better. I was just wondering if you got bored of the game like yesterday and here you are.
You most certainly can get bored if it lol. All the things that I want to do in game I can't because to make a floating base you need a shit load of fuel or to go into the game files and adjust the fuel usage rage of thrusters or download mods. But I prefer to do things all vanilla otherwise everything I've done in survival is meaningless as I might as well just give myself all the resources or just go enable dev mode.
So true
"So true"
@@RogueAero I use bearings for heavy transports, only fuel for parts, and plane, light explorer vehicle. Upgrade it to lvl 5 controller, and 4 bearings for 1 tire is fast.
Make a giant top loading industrial grinder with drills and sawblades that will refine anything you drop in there. You would need a tipping truck to load it.
Damnn.... Good to see you back on with scrab mechanic survival...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤❤❤❤
I'm seriously impressed how well that works and how simple it is.
I use one refinery on my vehicle and found it keeps FPS higher. You could see on that as well the wood always favours 1 particular resource collector. So maybe utilise the back of the vehicle with connected chests for crazy gathering adventures and keep it to 1 refinery
Biggest thing is weight issues and it being too long where it bottoms out. Also, when you get going with multiple trees, you'll quickly fill up the resource collectors before one refinery can keep it clear. Was going for something that would just be able to keep going and going and going without getting off or just sitting there waiting.
To reduce lag with complex vehicles, you gotta try and build with as little/few friction surfaces as possible.
For example if you have a rotating arm that brushes up against another part of the build, try using a spacer to move it away (bearing -> pipe spacer -> arm attached out on pipe spacer)
Although this may make your vehicles larger overall with the extra spacing out, your framerate will love the reduced physics calculations.
Don't be dishearted besides the biggest trees that thing worked amazing. Just keep it as it was before the FPS dropped. Plenty of trees in the Scrap world!
Redwood trees need a little finesse, but still totally doable. They just take longer because 4 logs per wood chunk instead of 2.
the suspensions are not necessary though. I wish they worked better but they are only really needed for vehicles. The suspensions only cause lag when whatever is attached is shaken around.
Big trees can be 6x6, also the tree falling part is a problem, cutting it while up right skips that problem
I completely agree with you about the devs not needing to worry about the beds, and focus on optimizing the game to get good frames with big builds.
I actually stopped playing, because the frames got so bad later game when i had the resources to start building proper semi automated wood/stone gatherers.
Really love Scrap Mechanic, but i can't deal with the frames dropping to 5-25 on my 1080 Ti, and if i can't build bigger, i don't really see any way to "progress" any more.. I hope they'll fix it, so i can get back to it!
With regard to your framerate, it looks like your left refinery and the blocks holding it up are sliding around. Maybe that's it.
I also noticed it dropped significantly when he replaced some of the pipe pieces with mesh blocks. Could be the game uses more resources calculating friction/collision for the larger surface area.
you have to visually follow the path the log will take and ensure there are no gaps or bad pathing. Anything the causes something to crash or bounce around without resolving will cause huge lag.
never believed in wood cutters but this one changed my mind, awesome job
They really do need to make the fps more forgivable for bigger creations
I would be happy if the bearings just stopped freaking out when FPS drops. My controller car flew away yesterday...
Super cool build John. I don't play, but I do watch a bunch of SM youtubers and I definitely think you're one of the very best builders! Those big trees are defeating everyone, lol. You know what I'd like to see is a build that uses your cactuses on wheels that clamp around a big tree and climb up the top of it and then process the tree from the top down. Do you think that's possible?
It's not a very complicated build, so my guess is a piston or a bearing trying to do something that it can't do. Giving moving blocks more clearance space always seems to help for me
You should build a wood chipper. Edit build a quick detach wood chipper that when you turn on the chipper it detaches itself by cardboard blocks being cut and when you are done just back up to it and it will auto harvest when attached
I have a more simple wood cutter design I found on reddit:
Grab round the tree with low friction blocks. Then cut the stump. And now the tree falls onto the same blades used to cut the base. It has very few moving parts so less complicated and less errors.
That's close to what I'm doing but for some reason most youtubers want to make it hard on themselves
@@the_Acaman it's the difference between manual actions and Rube Goldberg machines
if you don't fully test the system you can't tell where it breaks
those reddit builds have to come from somewhere and I for one am avoiding much beyond logic shortcuts and some basic mechanical tricks to avoid over-use of fuel (fuel use gets absurd on mid-large sized machines yet farming and storing fuel remains a pain in the ass)
that said a lot of youtubers seem to over-think the mechanical complexity while under-thinking the engine calculations (e.g. crush-pistons on a free floating object being pushed top-down along a slide-bed while 2 pivots are calculating break-level forces and multiple grades of suspension bearings are being put under odd-stresses.
i'm curious what a simple set of retractible legs would do interms of saving framerate while engaged with a tree versus free-floating wheeled use. If the engine components can handle radial engine torque then I would estimate that the issue is mostly interrupted-piston, bearing and suspension related calculations.
from the moment a tree is cut there is no more collision on the branches
You could mount the blades directly onto the bottom of the grabber, and feed the tree into those blades instead of hoping it lines up with your saw box.
Then laying the tree down would be entirely optional... except for redwoods... those things are too heavy to hold upright as you chop them.
Also, you accidentally made something visually similar to Scrapman's logger... though yours already works better than his. *A lot better* than his actually.
I can hold them big trees upright as I cut them just fine, you just have to make the grabber taller than what he has, and he said he doesn't like that.
john - look at a small wood cutter 00fant i think he is called , made it have a shaker instead of all the wheels in the shute and as far as i understood , no pistons and no supensions
Once a tree is cut down the branches lose all collision. You don't have to worry about breaking them really.
Destroyer of Wood AND FPS PogChamp
excellent work JB!
I feel like the game used to be so much better at handling stuff like this. We had such epic creations, but then the new survival physics made everything so risky. If we could at least get the lift and blueprints then we could make some laggy creations and break them down when they're not needed instead of parking them outside of render distance. But then there's still the stationary creations with pistons freaking the F out.
I think it used to be that when there was a lot of weight on bearings and they would stretch that would be horrible for framerates, but now bearings and pistons are múch weaker than they used to be and I suspect that also affects how much weight you can put on a complex vehicle before the framerates go down really fast.
Considering the limitations of the game in it's current state I gotta say that's a pretty awesome logging vehicle. For now I'm just sticking with a pretty simple saw car (double stacking them and using a controller helps a whole lot), hopefully some day this game will let us do the things it invites us to do.
hell of a design
looks like you could use some variable piston suspension to help with odd-positions
also, the hole is a liitle small for the largest trees :p
p.s. the refineries seem to be flexing on the mesh, between that and the press-down piston-clamp conveyor it's probably freaking out the physics engine.it would be nice if there was a parts-vew so you could tell where the games engine is straining most in terms of calculations needed (not quite a debug view but certainly something that lets you tell when the math on a seemingly simple part is stressing out the engine)
I love your logger
Also. Needs to be a little wider where the blades cut. Wood needs to be able to bounce around in the blades to break. Had redwoods sometimes be fully immersed in blades and just sit there likenits nothing. Have since fixed.
Use level 5 controllers max speed on blades and wheels they will cut wood and really fast. Make sure your chamber is 6x6 as a just in case. Have a similar chopper and from slice to chop it processes a tree in under 10 seconds no lag.
I have the same FPS issues. it isn't just you or just the beta. The game itself just has REALLY bad optimization.
I completely agree with you too. The draw of this game is making complex and cool creations that do cool things. But the frame rate issues prevent the players from being able to do that.
By this point I feel like I am playing "Frame rate management simulator" instead of a survival crafting game.
depends what you mena "bad" optimisation.
i'm running 140 framerate on regular gameplay, the physics just seems to specifically freak out when you stress out the math engine for excessive load placed upon multiple bearings/pistons/suspension.
I like that you can use controllers to "break" expected physics (it's why I bought the game) but the system is just that, we can multiply the output of certain objects until the engine can't properly reconcile the synamic-physics math
that the framerate "fixes" itself when you "lift" specific objects tells me that the issue is with the unseen math within powered items moreso than any global term like "optimisation".
in most cases it seems to be a dynamic-simulation/calculation issue not a display one
you could try to feed the physics load to a many-way sli/crossfire farm and/or 64-core threadripper 3990x
That's such an awesome vehicle. I wish it didn't drop your FPS so much because it could chew through some forests!
I like Shipbreaker a lot more than Scrap Mechanic.
I'm a fan of games with goals, and where you can upgrade your skill tree and equipment.
Wow thats an amazing machine , hope your feeling better enjoyed the multiplayer also
if you need an idea for fun then make a farm that is operated by ai vehicles following color lines.
they can do the planting and harvest.
Awesome build! Best of those that I've seen... Hoping that the devs sort out the fps soon 👍
Saw blad underneath from the Center and push it out the blade
This is a beast
I bm love the scrap mechanic episodes
That thing is awesome. You can remove the wheel on either side of the feeder because trees are round so they wont touch there. That saves 6 wheels. seeing the low fps in the end makes me think it is the map causing lag because it worked before. maybe the bots in that building
its just all the entities on a building (part separated by a bearing, piston etc) and the game physic engine is not well optimized. I made a coupe of complex things on scrap mechanic survival and its clear those are lagging my game.
I'm all about you starting a new season, mate. I am quietly following your videos and like someone said in one of the comments, if you lack the spark to do it, move on. I'd still love more of scrap mechanic, tho. Plus, I remember wanting to see bigger and more optimised builds and it's just a shame that this doesn't work :) well, we can try a fresh start and see where that takes us
Another great episode! Hope you'r doing well!
resource collection, either wood or stones Always kills the FPS. I bring trailers full of logs back to the sawmill and as i cut the trees free the FPS drops. If I cut all the trees free the FPS will turn into a slideshow.
This game needs some optimizations, They need to improve the performance, Add some more content, and more challenge.
I like the idea for your vehicle. Cheers
You basically made a woodmizer sawmill
Another good video JB. Maybe try another season, see if the stated "performance fixes" work on a clean game. I'll be watchin regardless of what you do.
Will there be a world download for this series? I realize you've gone to the modded series now, so it would be cool to see the finished vanilla world.
I was watching and thinking finaly someone made something that can handle all the different size trees and handles the whole process. Was gonna ask for a detailed build guide cus some parts I cudnt see well. But if it does that to your fps then I guess nvm. Its a real shame. They definitely need to make it so stuff like that doesn't crash the game other wise they don't even have much of a game honestly.
I thought Scrapman did a pretty decent job as well with his tree harvester.
3:44 I know yer pain, John.
Damn thats very impressive!
Have you ever thought of a lift that gets you vehicle up to your base?
wondering whether a top-down wastb-in thingie would work? Like a kind of paper-shredder, but with the choppy bits at the bottom of the chute? So you load it up with tree trunks and then switch on and watch the refined logs pop out?
I have something like that as my logger.
Basically just a square tube that opens at the front and has sawblades at the bottom.
Except for an acceptable loss of framerate it works perfectly for all trees without branches down low.
I might be able to design it around branches as well but i have already cut down enough trees that i might have more wood than i am going to need.
It works and it is more efficient too.
Oor a scrap loader aka a saver so ur bulds get saved so u can load more fps
Also. Recycle all your loose arms. Dont leave stone metal or wood logs layong around.. and walk around with yer connect tool at night to locate and pick up all the loose tote bot heads.. those bastards can really pile up.
I always do. I didn't during this episode because by the time I was testing. I was 8 hours in recording the episode. I do clean up before the next episode.
surprising how they are trying to make disposable beds instead of trying to fix the fps issue that comes with bigger creations
im down for a second season, if it helps your gameplay then yeah, plus it would be interesting to see your gameplay from a fresh perspective now that you know how to get stuff.
When he said put it in the hole 19:10
awesome built!!
Yayyy Johnny’s back :))
Это просто гениально
John if you do a new season you should use mods and at least get a better gather rate
more wheels and suspension will fix you are over waight
6:54. When you don’t know the plural of cactus is cacti
Or when you don't care and are having fun with words. :)
Ooh. Thx for replying
@@j0hnbane I died laughing when you paused and said "Nicholas's's's Cages's's's!" in that one vid.
My tree logger vehicle causes major FPS drops too.
I kinda lost the motivation to work on it because of that.
I agree with you that the appeal of this game is to create cool things like these and not just small, simple builds.
Anyways, that was a cool approach that you had there. Mine would lay the tree on top and then feed it into the blades.
Glad your feeling better. I live this game but the FPS drop kills it for me.
What is the cactus for and why does he have soooo many???
I think I speak for most your scrap mechanic videos are awsome how u find a way to keep making them. U seem real frustrated with the game right now
Let’s goo another episode
Wish I could build like you man
Bro i wish i was him
I need a logging vehicle but can't quite figure out what to do...
Love it !!
Bearings , piston, collisions make fps to drop, for example i have good mining vehicle with many moving parts, but when i come close to it, my fps drops from 30 to 7, and when i mine many rocks to 2 fps, i am waiting for new video card upgrade, but even if you are in area of that car your fps will drop, so i drive it out of my sight, to next area, and it stays there for time i upgrade my pc. Branches are only in way when tree is not cut.
The video card isn't going to help. All those physics calculations are done in the cpu I'm pretty sure. But even people with high end PCs are having major frame rate issues with this game.
My own system is an i5 7600k and a GTX1080, both overclocked. I run the game at well over 200fps but as soon as I try to mine or harvest trees I am down in the 3-15 fps range.
@@KurNorock damn. I was hoping a pc upgrade would solve most of those problems
I have a powerful PC. It runs much more visually demanding and some other physics based games with less of a problem. Like what Kur said, its just how the game is made.
*T E R R A T E C H*
when do you want to continue this series ?
3 veiws
6 likes?
Have you tried having those other vehicles of yours up on lifts while you're using that I noticed when you put things up on lifts your frame rate comes back you might want to put your other vehicles up on lifts and keep them there while you're using that one and your frame rate might be better that may be a glitch in the system
You know he only has one lift right?
Before you comment about welding to a post, only the lift deactivates all physics of a creation. Welding to a post only stops the ground collisions, it doesn't disable the rest of the moving bits.
But more to your point, I do agree the game should have the ability to stow creations in a no physics condition
I was out of render distance of other creations when the fps really started dropping in a cleaned up area.
@@j0hnbane the truly odd bit and you pointed it out the video was that you had serviceable frames before that final modification to the rig. As I see it you either created a contradictory interaction in your build or you had a memory overflow. How many frames did you get after rebooting?
Tear 3 or higher the bots wont distroys
John your on 69k
The bearings are much much weaker on survival for some reason.. I hope they fix it cause it causes many problems if you want to make anything more than minimal designs tbh. Also, diamond blocks or whatever it's called, has the same friction as cactuseseses, and cost 1 metal per too.
Its just about the collisions, you have too many wheels and sawblades close to eachother.
found a pile on the roof of mechanics station along with a chest.. was like wtf?
If you do get rid of this world goodbye old world hello new
Is this what people call early? Or am I too late to say early?
Yesterday I lost my controller car cuz it decided to freak out at the rear bearings and I had tires flying all around the vehicle. i got out to try and lift it and it literally flew away... Sent 2 hrs looking for it after I reloaded. Bye bye controller car...
Ouch! Harsh man... hope you find it soon!
I think the new season is a good idea but I would completely uninstall and reinstall the game when you do it mate, also on another note why even worry about the big trees as there really isn't that many just leave them be and do the small and medium one's save leaving your world barren as well.
That isn't going to help his framerate issues at all. Anybody who makes semi-complicated creations has the same issue.
Also, the big trees are really the only ones worth harvesting. You get wood blocks instead of scrap wood, and you get a LOT of them. So you save a TON of time going after the big ones only.
Kinda kinda like scrapmans
Everyone, including us, are copying each other. That's how the world works if you wanna get better.
Had hprrible crashes in past.. going from 280fps to jitters.. then a crash. Watch yer bearings.. and especially your struts. Having vehicles with that totalled 20 suspension among them at mechanics station and trying to build a car with 4 suspension would cause the crash. Too much math it seems. Moved 1 vehicle with 5 suspension to a separate chunk. Was able to build a new car no problems.. also.. all my cars were on road.. driving on the grass would be fine.. until that extra vehicle his asphalt. Then crash. Try to keep total suspension in an area to 20 or less and you'll be fine. Went from crippling crashes to weeks without a single crash. Suspension math and bearing collisions are the worst offenders.
Lol 11 min 11 comm
Wow first for once
Hunter Heath congrats
Hunter Heath ur not I’m sorry
There is no point at being early
this game is so fucking laggy...cant even make a machine for cutting one tree without LAAAGGG!
whoa I’m early
were has the terratech series been i miss them
Rip 4 months ago series is dead
Been streaming it and the edited versions are ok the second channel.
j0hnbane what is the 2nd channel?
@@carl_botog7001 th-cam.com/users/j0hnbanetv
hmmm
when can anyone join me!!! plz...
Holes are bad