Looks like you are think of using a frothed belt. Don’t forget to use a large bearing to hold the gearbox spigot shaft to hold the belts tension. Pretty sure you already thought of that already. Enjoying your stuff.
Love your sense of humor Rich. Not sure that motor is going to have the power to move much faster than 2 MPH though. Just a little better than chucking up a cordless drill on that transmission shaft.
Been checkn out ur past projects. Really cool how hammer through them and dont give up. People can learn from you. You set a good example for people to follow.
One more thought, if you do run a grille shell for looks, you should move it back to be inline with the axle or behind it. Where it was looked a bit too far forward for the right proportions.
Ouch, oh the pain, that hurts... When welding on the lathe, cover the bed with a damp rag so the welding embers do not embed themselves into the machined surface of the guideways.
I actually find it interesting to do the conversions, I hope to see more of them honestly cause it shows some of the thought process and various solutions to achieve the end goal
I'm using that motor in my KX250f conversion. I will be using a Sevcon gen4 size 6 controller that will peak at 660A and will run on 120V. Thats about 75-80 hp on a 230lb dirt bike.
This isn't all that bad, consider for a moment that a Mitsubishi i-Miev has factory net capacity of 14.5kWh in a 16kWh pack. The Motorcycle here has 11.6kWh in a 13kWh, but with much more modern Li-ion cells. If the rat rod isn't too heavy and has a reasonable efficient drivetrain then this could probably average 40miles per charge. Will you be adding any of your Tesla 5kWh modules to this project?
Then he would'nt have reverse unless he added some stuff to the controller to reverse the polarity on the motor, that's one of the reasons a lot if not most ev conversions retain transmissions, it simplifies things with the mechanical reverse gearing.
i've been a sub for a while, and i have to say. Your quality of your videos has improved so much and I'm always excited to see a new one come out. Keep up the awesome work Rich
ehh bikes are basically built around the motor, and like he said it's never going to be able to keep up with real sport bikes. I was kind of hoping for something more go-kart like, but I'll take rich actually working on something rather then him telling us about how he has no money and a full time job.
why did you not lasercut the sheet completely so that u can just weld/bolt it on to the car? if u were lasercutting the hole u should've just let them laser the full piece lol
Beyond picking up hot metal with his bare hands, Rich always amazes me with the flip flops. I won't even walk into the shop without my steel toes, much less pick up an angle grinder....
I actually heard about the Zero about 6 months ago. A company called Viatec buys these motorcycles in pieces and turns them into an electric PTO for commercial vehicles to eliminate idling.
im so happy you made this video!! I've been waiting for a good vid on diy converter plate and couplers. Thank you!! please do MORE BUDGET stuff! super inspiring!!!
Nice project. Yes he could have ditched the trans completely but for a backyard- build with alot of unknown factors ( actual power output, actual finished weight) its better to have a few ratios to choose from...
Cool Project... as always. And fun to watch. Note: They have MONSTER laser cutter... means: Next time spend some hours to "draw" your shape in CAD... will saves you a lot of 1/4" steel work ;-) Will fit.. Marko
Can you do a build with a complete Nissan leaf motor and transaxle? If the electronic communications arent too complicated, it seems like cheaper alternative to a tesla drivetrain. I considered this for a small pickup truck. For more power and 4wd you can put one in the front and one in the back. Just have to cut a hole in the bed to accommodate the rear motor.
Hmmm, China is diving deep into that market with some interesting products. You're joking but that's not a bad idea. The quality of batteries and motors in China today are pretty good. He should have researched a motor from that market.
@@robertnicholls9917 i actually am not joking, but I have thought about it for some time. But I hardly find a reliable source just yet. And seeing some crazy stunts uncle rich has been doing with his money, I just thought that he may be up for it
Remove the transmission. Put a pulley on the rear axle pinion. Use the belt drive to do a reduction at the rear axle. Mount the motor on the axle so it is essentially a drive unit.
Hi Rick. Do you know Colin Furce. TH-camr from UK. He built at Electric drift trike out of a old BMX bike. The engine he used was ment to be in a VW beatle. It looks like your MC engine, just a little bigger. He used only 3 batteri packs to a Remote toy car. Thats the engine you got to use. With a big battery it wil have tons of power. Try to watch he’s trike build. Thanks for all your great videos. 👍
Lee safety my man, that's a grinder your dealing with. Those disk can break and kill man. Before you work in the oil industry they sit you down show you a compilation of, equipment failing, trust me you want to be safe
do you even need the transmission? the gears in the rear end not enough? would save you more weight also you should be able to lightn the frame using dimple die style cuts
Just a PSA. If you are going to clean metal with brake cleaner before welding make sure it's NON Chlorinated brake cleaner. If there is any chlorinated brake cleaner still on there when you weld you'll make chlorine gas which is extremely bad.
He wouldn't have had to knock the hole out and clean it if he had purged the O2 first. Especially after he pulled the lens cover. It fills the head with atmosphere. Laser 101. I understand the mistake being pressured on film though 😊
Man if you ever go to the Bass Pro Shop Car Meet at Gillette Stadium let us know! It's a 45 min drive for me but I'll be damn sure willing to drive to see this thing!
Is going to be awesome following this project, I am going to do it like this cheap and dirty one day. I am glad you are doing it yourself with common tools! Keep it up!
Your close... what people are going to do is pull the sidecar off a utal and attach it to the Zero... Love all the machines.. what we use is a 4 inch hand grinder.... can do everything you showed and a drill press as a mill
With the SR motor pushing all the extra weight, heat is going to be a huge issue. It will go into thermal management mode very quickly. At least add a fan for some cooling air flow.
First, that socket drawer was awesome. Second, maybe after you get it all adapted and working, you can take the transmission out the lighten it, both for total weight and rotational weight. Probably a lot of boat anchor material in there. :)
A totaled Bolt or Volt drivetrain would have been cool in this project. I'm sure you could find wrecked Volt's on Copart all day long for less than $3,500.
if motor bolt holes or the bell housing bolt holes are off centre , will you wreck the transmission or motor quickly ? What off centre error is acceptable ? 1 thou' of an inch , 10 thou' 100 thou' ?
Rich is awesome! Im really interested in electric cars. My old boss had a 2001 Tiboron and he went through 2 gas engines in it. He was gonna let it go cheap. I wanted to do a Tesla motr conversion in it. It had a 5 speed. The only bad thing was it was front wheel drive.
People weren't saying YOUR prices were too high, they were saying THE prices were too high. Normal people who only spend 1000-2000 on a car and make it last 5-10 years CANT afford to spend thousands and thousands on converting their current car.
6:55 That is, without a doubt, the jankiest machining operation I have ever seen. Also, your buddy may want to move the cans of flammable liquid somewhere other than immediately behind the grinding wheel... Other than that, pretty sweet build. :)
Oh, and if you want a small lathe, look for a used 9" South Bend. They can be had for about what a modern Chinesium one would cost, but they're far more capable machines. They were designed for small work in production machine shops, whereas most small modern lathes are aimed at hobbyists. As a result, the SB will cut better and last longer than any new lathe in that size range. They also last *forever* if you keep them oiled. Seriously, mine was made in 1936, and it works flawlessly. For the sake of comparison, I've already had to replace some bearings and rebuild the spindle on my 5 year old Jet mill, and I use the lathe more. I have no doubt the South Bend will be running in another 80 years, but I would be shocked if the Jet lasted half that. The model A is the fanciest version, with power feed on both axes and a quick change gearbox. The Model B has manual swap gears, and the Model C has manual gears and no power feed on the X axis, but any of them are still great. I have a C, and as you've probably gathered by now, I love it. They're surprisingly common, considering their age; there's almost always one or two on Craigslist where I live, and there are always a handful on eBay.
Thank you for grounding directly to the part instead of through the lathe's bearings. Few people realize how much proper grounding improves the welding.
You know you can (things that I’ve never done) for a fraction of the cost (things I’ve read on the Internet)... I could do it so much better than you if (never made it myself) blah blah blah. Awesome videos where you actually do it and show us the process
Dayum, Rich! I never noticed how jacked you are until this video. You are sporting some serious pythons. Between your channel, your garage, your family, your collaborations, when do you find time to go to the gym?
You should cut ready to use adapter on that laser. You were already there! Why not draw it cut it locally from vinyl, stick it to plywood, cut it, check it and then make the final one on laser.
The "Zero" Motorcycle; the first bike named after Rich's Intentions on finishing a Tesla Project.
Samcrac He learned it from watching you, ok !!!! (80’s kid flash back)
Sam you and Rich should convert a pizza car into a EV that would blow up the internet...
Dude! Great!
The only reason why your projects get done is because you send them to vtuned
DIY GANG GONNA FINISH A BURN HELLCAT BEFORE THIS DUDE FINISH A TESLA
Almost Bankwupt but you had to cover the Sneakers. Gold.
I almost fell on the floor when I saw this. LOL
typical....
Your ability to always burn yourself on hot pieces of metal is surprising
I believe it might be a running joke now.
He black after all, at night i get sunburn.
Yeah, it is funny. I subscribed to other channels for far less.
A slow learner ?
@@MyBarry2009 Anxious mostly.
Cutting metal with a Plasma Torch on a plastic milk crate, I love it.
I’m suggesting you watch TH-cam with safety glasses from now on. Wouldn’t want to injure y’all self
Yeah, I wondered about that, too.
are we not even gonna talk about welding the part while it's still chucked on the lathe?
Gotta do shit on a budget lmao
What could happened
Looks like you are think of using a frothed belt. Don’t forget to use a large bearing to hold the gearbox spigot shaft to hold the belts tension. Pretty sure you already thought of that already. Enjoying your stuff.
Love your sense of humor Rich. Not sure that motor is going to have the power to move much faster than 2 MPH though. Just a little better than chucking up a cordless drill on that transmission shaft.
It's got 116 ft-lb of torque. Pretty good for bike motor. It's why they beat Hyabusas off the line.
Been checkn out ur past projects. Really cool how hammer through them and dont give up. People can learn from you. You set a good example for people to follow.
One more thought, if you do run a grille shell for looks, you should move it back to be inline with the axle or behind it. Where it was looked a bit too far forward for the right proportions.
If anyone is wondering @ 12:04 - Isolation keyboard (KV-300H) from A4Tech. Has two 2.0 USB ports on either side.
Ouch, oh the pain, that hurts... When welding on the lathe, cover the bed with a damp rag so the welding embers do not embed themselves into the machined surface of the guideways.
rich "I touch hot metal with my bare hands" rebuilds
If there is anybody that can do this project YOU ARE THE MAN ! Love your channel Rich
I actually find it interesting to do the conversions, I hope to see more of them honestly cause it shows some of the thought process and various solutions to achieve the end goal
Thanks Rich, crashed electric motorcycle prices just shot through the roof. There goes my dream of building one on the cheap.
Rich “touches hot things” Rebuilds
Lee is such a lad. Everyone needs a buddy with an assortment of welding and fabrication tools
I'm using that motor in my KX250f conversion. I will be using a Sevcon gen4 size 6 controller that will peak at 660A and will run on 120V. Thats about 75-80 hp on a 230lb dirt bike.
This isn't all that bad, consider for a moment that a Mitsubishi i-Miev has factory net capacity of 14.5kWh in a 16kWh pack. The Motorcycle here has 11.6kWh in a 13kWh, but with much more modern Li-ion cells. If the rat rod isn't too heavy and has a reasonable efficient drivetrain then this could probably average 40miles per charge. Will you be adding any of your Tesla 5kWh modules to this project?
Thanks for quitting your day job so we can watch you rebuild stuff. It is awesome!
I’m surprised you didn’t just bypass the trans altogether and mount the motor right on the diff. It’d be 100 pounds lighter...
Yes, but then how would you reverse?
Then he would'nt have reverse unless he added some stuff to the controller to reverse the polarity on the motor, that's one of the reasons a lot if not most ev conversions retain transmissions, it simplifies things with the mechanical reverse gearing.
1:1 would lock it in "4th gear" normally so very slow acceleration without a super super low geared rear end
The torque would be gone then, if it would even move.
@@atf01234 Reversing is trivial. If the controller software doesn't support it then just swap any two of the motor phase wires.
i've been a sub for a while, and i have to say. Your quality of your videos has improved so much and I'm always excited to see a new one come out. Keep up the awesome work Rich
why not use an atv style rear axle and attach the motor in the back and put the batteries up front eliminating the transmission all together?
Ever driven a car without differential?
@@peterzingler6221 welded diff 4 life
In case he wants the gears later.
I was expecting straight on to the difference pinion but that my couch expertise
Yeah...and use diferent (single speed if is posible) gearbox to fit all in the back...
Same as front wheel drive...
Booo, was looking forward to a transplant into another bike frame 😭
I got you covered... but I'm not as fun to watch do things. Haha.
ehh bikes are basically built around the motor, and like he said it's never going to be able to keep up with real sport bikes. I was kind of hoping for something more go-kart like, but I'll take rich actually working on something rather then him telling us about how he has no money and a full time job.
me too
why did you not lasercut the sheet completely so that u can just weld/bolt it on to the car? if u were lasercutting the hole u should've just let them laser the full piece lol
I would say the same as in simmilar comment before. I think he is trolling hard. Just for fun and hurt himself. :D
that was my first thought. with dimensions of the motor and bell housing the adapter could be cut completely in a few minutes.
Beyond picking up hot metal with his bare hands, Rich always amazes me with the flip flops. I won't even walk into the shop without my steel toes, much less pick up an angle grinder....
If one zero motor isn't enough, then just add more of them.
Look forward to seeing the result!
But it will still be zero engines in that car, tho...
Yea, I'll find the door 😒😜
He's gonna need to!
@@randygreen7871 One on each wheel would be cool... 320 HP 4WD with no transmission and tankturns...
@@ahaveland That's what need to happen, but it won't. 67 HP is not gonna do it, no way!
@@randygreen7871 Well, 67 HP is plenty enough to get around from A to B comfortably.
I'm still deliriously happy with my 2HP homemade ebike!
I actually heard about the Zero about 6 months ago. A company called Viatec buys these motorcycles in pieces and turns them into an electric PTO for commercial vehicles to eliminate idling.
The draw of neatly placed socket wrench sockets at 09:11 was oddly satisfying.😊
EvanJayAwesome true.... it instantly hurt my bank account thinking how much that dude had tied up in that chest.
I love the visuals, esp at the start.
If the Electrified Garage thing doesn't work out, you could have a career in comedy.
Trumpf machine shop
The correct way to use a huge shiny laser cutter is to cut a square part and then cut the square to shape using an angle grinder.
Hey Rich,
Saw you on Vice. You're a genius man keep it up.
Shorts & sandals in a machine shop, and obsessively touching recently cut metals. Uncle Rich is an interesting mix of creative genius and WTF.
Count voice at 5.30, priceless! Also looked like welding was actually unwelding, awesome! Smiley face x
Of course 1/4 inch steel is difficult to work with. Should have gone with metric, it's easier.
Cause 6mm is much easier to work !
You are blazing new trails for millions of car enthusiasts to follow into the brave New world of electric transportation. My hat's off to you!
im so happy you made this video!! I've been waiting for a good vid on diy converter plate and couplers. Thank you!! please do MORE BUDGET stuff! super inspiring!!!
"Might be warm Rich.." Like a moth to the flame. It never gets old
Awesome idea! This is the kinda thing that keeps me coming back to watch your videos. :)
Nice project. Yes he could have ditched the trans completely but for a backyard- build with alot of unknown factors ( actual power output, actual finished weight) its better to have a few ratios to choose from...
Looks like I'm buying a trashed electric motorcycle for my Yugo.
7:05 ,nice low-key flex there bro😁
Cool Project... as always. And fun to watch.
Note: They have MONSTER laser cutter... means:
Next time spend some hours to "draw" your shape in CAD... will saves you a lot of 1/4" steel work ;-)
Will fit..
Marko
has access to multi-kilowatt "laser"... cuts a square...
now where's the shark!
Every time Rich Burns Himself an electric conversion is completed. Love you rich
"If I want the feeling of driving with a clutch, I'll just drive my Z06" Humblebrag there much? Richie Rich
Reminds me of Jay "my F1 Mclaren" Leno
Can you do a build with a complete Nissan leaf motor and transaxle? If the electronic communications arent too complicated, it seems like cheaper alternative to a tesla drivetrain. I considered this for a small pickup truck. For more power and 4wd you can put one in the front and one in the back. Just have to cut a hole in the bed to accommodate the rear motor.
Nice seeing something named Trumpf being consistent, reliable and good at what it is doing.
Ever thought about buying cheap evs from china and review them? Yeah me neither
Hmmm, China is diving deep into that market with some interesting products. You're joking but that's not a bad idea. The quality of batteries and motors in China today are pretty good. He should have researched a motor from that market.
@@robertnicholls9917 i actually am not joking, but I have thought about it for some time. But I hardly find a reliable source just yet. And seeing some crazy stunts uncle rich has been doing with his money, I just thought that he may be up for it
I have the same mental disorder that compels me to reach out and touch every freshly ground piece of metal. I feel your pain Rich (physically)
Your videos are getting off the charts good. The montages are hilarious and well edited. Stoked to see how you’re going to build this channel!
Remove the transmission. Put a pulley on the rear axle pinion. Use the belt drive to do a reduction at the rear axle. Mount the motor on the axle so it is essentially a drive unit.
Damn, that toolbox is some serious stuff!
Thanks man
Lee Malo are those sound activated LED light strips in there? They seem to be lighting up as you speak.
Hi Rick. Do you know Colin Furce. TH-camr from UK.
He built at Electric drift trike out of a old BMX bike.
The engine he used was ment to be in a VW beatle. It looks like your MC engine, just a little bigger.
He used only 3 batteri packs to a Remote toy car.
Thats the engine you got to use. With a big battery it wil have tons of power. Try to watch he’s trike build.
Thanks for all your great videos.
👍
6:50 the lathe turns a lot too fast and some coolant is always good when machining steel.
Love it! Can’t wait to see the finished result to be fair
Lee safety my man, that's a grinder your dealing with. Those disk can break and kill man. Before you work in the oil industry they sit you down show you a compilation of, equipment failing, trust me you want to be safe
do you even need the transmission? the gears in the rear end not enough? would save you more weight also you should be able to lightn the frame using dimple die style cuts
my weldings skills suck at best and cant find my kitchen knife that was hilarious you got my in tears omg good stuff
Just a PSA. If you are going to clean metal with brake cleaner before welding make sure it's NON Chlorinated brake cleaner. If there is any chlorinated brake cleaner still on there when you weld you'll make chlorine gas which is extremely bad.
plasma cutting on plastic milk crate, harbor freight hobby lathe, dreaming of Disney princesses,.... priceless
He wouldn't have had to knock the hole out and clean it if he had purged the O2 first. Especially after he pulled the lens cover. It fills the head with atmosphere. Laser 101. I understand the mistake being pressured on film though 😊
Man if you ever go to the Bass Pro Shop Car Meet at Gillette Stadium let us know! It's a 45 min drive for me but I'll be damn sure willing to drive to see this thing!
i just realized Rich dug into so many trashcans in public for this video.
ps. holy shit rich is yoked.
They's no shame in the Dumpster Diving Game! You Dive in broke and come out with Cash Money in hand
Is going to be awesome following this project, I am going to do it like this cheap and dirty one day. I am glad you are doing it yourself with common tools! Keep it up!
“and I can’t find my kitchen knife”.... Rich, you are awesome.
Can’t wait to see this build completed. I want to do this with my Scion IQ.
Wow, can't wait to see this thing running...
Your close... what people are going to do is pull the sidecar off a utal and attach it to the Zero...
Love all the machines.. what we use is a 4 inch hand grinder.... can do everything you showed and a drill press as a mill
With the SR motor pushing all the extra weight, heat is going to be a huge issue. It will go into thermal management mode very quickly. At least add a fan for some cooling air flow.
First, that socket drawer was awesome. Second, maybe after you get it all adapted and working, you can take the transmission out the lighten it, both for total weight and rotational weight. Probably a lot of boat anchor material in there. :)
Well, ditching that 305ci anchor helped.
Why would you not be fully prepared and have the plate cut to shape and all holes made?
Rich if your going to get a lathe get an old heavy one, you wont regret it and you can convert it to cnc if u want
Rich touching hot metal is the new electroboom circuit spark!
A totaled Bolt or Volt drivetrain would have been cool in this project. I'm sure you could find wrecked Volt's on Copart all day long for less than $3,500.
the Gloucester guy's Count impression was spot-on.
🤔🤔🤔 ... yep I support this. Can’t wait to see it drive!
if motor bolt holes or the bell housing bolt holes are off centre , will you wreck the transmission or motor quickly ? What off centre error is acceptable ? 1 thou' of an inch , 10 thou' 100 thou' ?
Dude, you are really getting buff!
Love the fireproof plastic crate you’re cutting steel on lol
Lesson number one in a car repair shop: never catch something that went on the floor without checking if it is hot.
I can’t believe you’re plasma cutting, grinding, using a lathe, etc., all without gloves bro! What, are you crazy?
Really entertaining vid. Thanks Rich!
@6:30 Your grinder work rest doesn't appear to be in compliance with osha standards. 1/8 " maximum
Rich is awesome! Im really interested in electric cars. My old boss had a 2001 Tiboron and he went through 2 gas engines in it. He was gonna let it go cheap. I wanted to do a Tesla motr conversion in it. It had a 5 speed. The only bad thing was it was front wheel drive.
People weren't saying YOUR prices were too high, they were saying THE prices were too high. Normal people who only spend 1000-2000 on a car and make it last 5-10 years CANT afford to spend thousands and thousands on converting their current car.
6:55
That is, without a doubt, the jankiest machining operation I have ever seen. Also, your buddy may want to move the cans of flammable liquid somewhere other than immediately behind the grinding wheel...
Other than that, pretty sweet build. :)
Oh, and if you want a small lathe, look for a used 9" South Bend. They can be had for about what a modern Chinesium one would cost, but they're far more capable machines. They were designed for small work in production machine shops, whereas most small modern lathes are aimed at hobbyists. As a result, the SB will cut better and last longer than any new lathe in that size range.
They also last *forever* if you keep them oiled. Seriously, mine was made in 1936, and it works flawlessly. For the sake of comparison, I've already had to replace some bearings and rebuild the spindle on my 5 year old Jet mill, and I use the lathe more. I have no doubt the South Bend will be running in another 80 years, but I would be shocked if the Jet lasted half that.
The model A is the fanciest version, with power feed on both axes and a quick change gearbox. The Model B has manual swap gears, and the Model C has manual gears and no power feed on the X axis, but any of them are still great. I have a C, and as you've probably gathered by now, I love it. They're surprisingly common, considering their age; there's almost always one or two on Craigslist where I live, and there are always a handful on eBay.
Thank you for grounding directly to the part instead of through the lathe's bearings. Few people realize how much proper grounding improves the welding.
That's why the weld looks so great.
Rich sounded like Count von Count at 5:25. 🤣🤣🤣
You know you can (things that I’ve never done) for a fraction of the cost (things I’ve read on the Internet)... I could do it so much better than you if (never made it myself) blah blah blah.
Awesome videos where you actually do it and show us the process
Exactly what I'm saying.
Dayum, Rich! I never noticed how jacked you are until this video. You are sporting some serious pythons. Between your channel, your garage, your family, your collaborations, when do you find time to go to the gym?
Stoked for this build, KIDD!!
Finally, a reall rich rebuilds episode!!! Looking forward to your build.
You should cut ready to use adapter on that laser. You were already there! Why not draw it cut it locally from vinyl, stick it to plywood, cut it, check it and then make the final one on laser.
That would have been the smart way . :-D
I hope there's a new lathe in the budget cause welding most of the time kills the bearings
Rich, you are such an inspiration to us all. Keep doing what you do best.
I don't think it will be fast, but will be fun!
You're a genius! been looking to convert my classic Mini. use a Zero!! love it.
HAMPSTER SHOOTER 🤣👏 love this channel so much
Damn these videos never seem long enough. I could honestly watch all day.
You are a blue collar hero Rich. You could turn the economy around with a short dumpster dive.
Everybody: Rich that's warm!
Rich: I know, but is it though? Better put my unprotected hand on it to make sure.