Does Bass Drum Beater Impact Location Matter? | Season Two, Episode 37
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There’s LOTS of discussion about the “proper” contact point for a bass drum beater on the drumhead. Some say it should be dead center regardless of drum size. Others say just off center. This week, we’re experimenting with positioning to see if it makes a difference on both 18” and 24” bass drums.
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if you have a higher beater it will have more attack and tone
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Next do: does bass drum port location change the sound?
It does, the larger and/or closer to the center, the brighter and more different sounding it will be compared to a standard reso head. Much more attack than anything else with a center port, not really my thing but Steve Gadd used to do that in the 80s
There's a video from Stanton Moore regarding bass drums where he talks about this. He does make a point about 20, 24 and 26 inch bass drums (if I remember correctly) being better than 22's because pedals don't land on the center and are more musical because of that. In other words, when pedals land on the center it sounds 'deader' than when it lands below or above. He also mentions how that's the way timpanis work.
Check it out!
The timpani comparison is spot on. I played timpani for 3 years, and striking placement is the difference between a dead thud, and a beautiful tone, every drum is different, but on the 32 drum, it's about 6 inches from the hoop, and the sweet spot is about an inch wide. Because they have a trapped volume of air, they behave very odd, and because of that they're very sensitive to technique, tuning, and mallet choice. I really wish timpani were more popular, it's outrageous what companies charge for them, they're about a simple as standard drums, if they were cheaper, they might be more popular, and I would still be playing them ;)
I like the idea, but you have to remember that timpani are single-headed kettledrums. On a bass drum with a cylindrical shape and two heads, the centre will always produce the most focus and fundamental tone because there are two membranes interacting with each other, and the centre is the most powerful and direct way to create that interaction. On a timpano, however, because the drum relies on the reflections on the single membrane reflecting back towards itself to promote the fundamental, the centre is the farthest from those reflective surfaces. It is still incredibly direct in nature as well, therefore it creates a ‘dead’ sound when struck. This fact itself is the reason why timpanists naturally play towards the edge of the head. That’s only my perspective, however.
The most important factor in having a full range of frequencies coming from the bass drum is unobstructed, decoupled contact from the bass pedal clamp. Again the principle is the same as with the tom. If the hoop is clamped by the bass drum, the lower frequencies of the bass drum are gone, non-existent. Grabbing a hoop with the pedal will destroy the sound of the bass drum. I've discovered Dixson drum lifter a couple years ago and using it ever since. It is an incredible device, allowing the bass drum to be suspended on its legs and decoupled from the bass pedal. The bass drum is floating freely and the sound upon the impact of the beater is full and incomparable to the sound of the clamped bass drum. I have 20"x14" bass drum that sounds like a cannon. Using this device is just a solution for all sound issues. The other drummers figure that out right away, especially when my band is playing as an intro act to the main act on any event. Then you see all the guys in the crew coming to me and asking what the hell is going on there with my bass drum,,,,,,,
Just to make sure, the modern miking equipment will make sound good a carton box on the stage.
Thank you for this. Thoroughly enjoyed your videos.
I do have a 16” bass drum (Yamaha Manu Katche Hipgig), and since it’s a small drum, there’s quite an obvious tone difference than in larger bass drums. I have the opportunity to adjust the height of the drum to conform with my pedal setup. I do hear a lot more attack hitting dead center, and a little more rounder sound hitting off-center. This is using an unported resonant head and playing off the head instead of burying it. But with a ported head, there really isn’t any obvious difference.
If you listen to Elvin's kick he plays an 18" with no padding, etc. He gets this great tone where the drum is tuned high and it is a little boomy but you probably can ID his playing by just hearing the BD. I wanted to get that sound and what I discovered was that if the beater was way set north of the center I could come really close to it but if I change the beater to closer to the center i'd loose that tone altogether. He also used a wooden beater. Just FYI.
Man so many topics, paying close attention to details typically missed in others drum lessons/reviews!!! Love your content!! 🙌🏻
I love this channel, I’ve been playing for 22 years and now I’m starting to spend time building and recording in my own space and every detail matters, thank you so very much from northern Canada , cheers
Before the coma it not has to be a space, correction for you, your personal development, etc.
Great video! As a 22” player, my OCD had issue with the beater not hitting the center like it did in a 24.
But like you discovered, it didn’t matter in the big picture. Tuning is all that mattered.
Youse guys rock!!!
After hearing the thoughtful micing of the bass drum, it makes me feel like an idiot for playing my entire life burying the beater on the bass drum. I finally got an all maple Gretsch kit and LOVE the drum sounds. It’s my first real “professional” kit and man do the drums sound SO much better than my first and second kits (Pearl Export and Pearl Prestige Session Select)
Looks like I am going to have to relearn my feet to let the bass drum resonate
I have found that hitting any drum dead centre will kill the tone and resonance, because the sound waves spread out evenly to the drum rim, then come back toward the centre, where they cancel each other out. Striking a little off - centre causes the waves to spread out towards the rim at a slightly different rate to each other, so they don't all meet in the middle at the same time - they kind of miss each other slightly, and continue onto the other side. A slow mo camera will show this clearly.
I never hit right in the middle for this reason.
On the 24” it sounded a tiny bit muddied, or not as clear, on the above center. Funny, on the 18 it was just the opposite, it sounded much better off center...
The beater shaft is too short in the 18-inch bass drum. If he had inserted a balancer (counterweight) and hit with the same force as the high position, I think the sound would have been better in the center.
I’ve always loved pulling my pedal arm waaaaaay out, gives me more power with the power of physics and i just got used to it from playing 26” kicks haha!
Once I was in the situation to play loud unamplified Rock Music with an 18" Bassdrum. The Problem was that the 18" Bassdrum did not produce enough volume to cut through. I bought a lifter and it helped me a lot to get enough volume out of the small Bass Drum.
I guess it may be related with the bass drum "suspended" on the spurs and the lifter, with no direct contact with the ground... just guessing..
I made a super long beater shaft + tennis ball beater to hit dead center on my 32" Ludwig SS. Sounded awesome, but mind the rebound - it'd hit your shins.
I wonder if beater location matters more when the head is out of tune with itself? I’ve done tests and having more problems with overtones when the beater isn’t centre, but it might just had been that I couldn’t tune the drum, and that is what I heard symptoms of when I hit the drum off centre. “Centre”, like you say, it’s not a 1 inch dot, it’s a wider zone. So maybe I’m saying it depends on “how centred” and “how out of tune”. But also different shaft length, and how much power you’re hitting the drum will, will also push it past, or below, where the drum sounds best. Appreciated this “myth busting” episode!
Coming here right after just ordering the Evans Dixson bass drum lift for my 16" Breakbeats kit
The Arti Dixson lift works well! Plus, you can move it forwards or backwards.
I have an 18" and IMO, it sounds better when it is elevated. Possibly a combination of getting closer to center and not touching the floor. FWIW: I'm not tuning or playing like a jazz drum and there is an EQ pad against the batter head. I also raise the front so the the batter head is slightly angled toward me. The beater is straight up on impact. I think I'll try lifting my 20" about an inch to see if sounds different/better.
I would push back on this episode. I had a 16 converted Tom to kick, and the lift was flat so I could slide the pedal horizontally, only changing the strike zone without changing the pedal physics. The off center hit provided a much longer sustain with more overtones. Dead center resulted in more attack and far less overtones. This seems like it would be obvious through observing the behavior of other Drums. If you hit a floor Tom off center with a stick the sound is vastly different than hitting it dead center, that is just the nature of Drums themselves.
It's probably more noticeable with a less 'floppy' head. The impact point does make a noticeable difference on toms, but most people tend to tune them quite higher (proportionally) than the bass drum. I'm not a specialist but there's a reason why timpani are played specifically near the edge.
It was so insightful when you made the comparison with holding your drumstick closer to the shoulder. This whole video, it seemed like the longer beater throw had more of a 'shoulder' sound. It was a bit louder; possibly slightly punchy. I agree, however. The feel of your pedal action should not have an affect on where your beater is hitting. This was a fantastic video. Thank you!
I switched to a Ludwig speed king for an 18' kick because it has a lower center pivot for the shaft and it fit better without having to raise the drum. The big drawback was the rim clamp tended to spread the "goal posts" out if its too tight. Pedal choice is more the issue for size of kick vs beater height.
I like the beater hitting dead center of a 24”. It’s really dry and punchy with plenty of low end. Using a double pedal, the left side beater sounds noticeably softer and less focused. It feels spongy too (in a negative way). I don’t understand the appeal of a more “tympani”-like sound from a bass drum by using an off center beater strike point when most modern music wants a thud. Hitting in the center helps give you more punch and short decay with less muffling, preserving some personality of the shell/head combination.
So, I think where the beater strikes is crucial to bass drum tone, especially when recording with close mics.
I've made a bit of an effort to not hit dead center on any bass drum. It's because of the feel. I've always aimed at hitting above center by about 3 inches, give or take. I play mostly 20"s, and an 18", but I use the Tama HP-50 with the adjustable pillar on that drum, and hit roughly around the same spot.
I was messing with my rototoms recently and experimenting with hitting in different areas of the head. Slightly off center and with a ridiculously light stick resulted in a full bodied long and resonant note vs an attack heavy tone with MUCH less resonance. Iused a 5” piece of broken 5A and the best results were with the thin wide broken end of the stick which was slightly flexible. A similar result to burying the beater vs feathering the beater on a bass drum tuned in a manner where you would hear the difference.....ie fairly resonant with a longer boomy note.
I've noticed that striking my unmuffled 22" off centre with a hand held mallet to reduce the effect of beater pedal shaft length deffo gets me a boomier sound.
Longer shaft its going to get loud that's what she said
Good analysis... don't over think it...so many factors affecting the sound. Play the way that feels best for you and gets the sound you (or the situation) want or need. I heard very little if any sound difference on the center/off center issue.
Another interesting albeit a "no-brainer" video guys..thank you
On the 24", the off-center position sounds slightly boomier... and, to my ears, it's exactly the same with the 18"... with little more volume maybe ont the "off-center" position.
Hey guys! Recently acquired a iron cobra 600 after enduring the pain of playing with a broken pedal for a couple years. I asked the drum shop guy how it couldve broken the way it did. He explained that it had to do with pressure put on by the bass riser. Are you guys going to do something in the future about bass drum pedal setup and how the angle/position/riser affect it?
Like that 18" with the extended batter length. The tone is way cool. Personally I'm not an ALL thump and no tone. I playing a vintage Gretsch 20" and trying to get less B Ball and a little thump and tone. Esp when practicing triplets with the toms and bass.
Thanks for your analysis!
Nice! I have an 18" with no riser so I'm playing around with beater impact a bit.
I've been using an early 60s Rogers swivomatic bass drum pedal with my vintage Rogers drums and the beater hits off center to the left. I haven't noticed the difference in sound between that and a modern pedal.
There are at least 2 pedals that allow the pivot point to be adjusted higher or lower, so the beater shaft length can stay the same, keeping the feel and physics of the pedal while adjusting the impact point of the beater on the head. Rogers and Tama. Would be interesting to hear how those do in this test.
I'd love to see a video on the "coin taped to the batter head" thing that a some guys looking for that really clicky 90's metal sound do. I've never seen a well done and comprehensive video on it.
Does Bass Drum Beater Impact Location Matter?
Yes, it does!
Especially on not muffled drums.
Of course (like you mentioned) shorten shaft of the beater just to hit the centre doesn't make any sense due to drop of dynamics (physical laws) But... in case of use bass drum smaller than 20 inches you could rise the bass drum itself!
Betula Obscura : I have got one of those plastic risers and I use it on my 18” and my 22”.
It also prevents hoop rash.
Mel Lewis said the 20" drum is best because the beater hits the center. I prefer 20", as a 22" is 20% larger in volume.
I’m hearing more high frequency overtones when the beater is hit off Center. The sound is more focused when hit in the center of the head. Those 2 factors could easily boil down to feel more than sound when the entire kit is played with the room also being a large factor.
Thank you guys so much for hitting on this subject. Awhile back I bought an iron cobra pedal for my new BEBOP 18" kit.i about lost my mind trying to get this pedal to feel right on that drum.I put my old speed king on it and bingo everything was peachy. It's amazing how much a difference in just lowering the beater or raising it can change the whole feel of a pedal,not the sound.thanks again guys.
I first came across this issue back in 2005 when I bought a Yamaha Daxdad bass drum. I tried cutting down a beater shaft so that I could get closer to the center of the head, but it made the feel of the pedal super uncomfortable.
+soundslikeadrum *As it turns out, I needed a lift for my TAMA®/Hoshino® IMB22E due to a side-load on the batter that killed the resonance* - I couldn't get any sustain from the EVANS®/D'Addario® BD22EMADHW no matter how I skewed the tensions, until the side load was off the batter hoop. Only then, with the batter-side weight on the shell rather than the hoop, was I able to experiment with beater settings to get best response in terms of length of sustain on bounce and shortness of decay with the beater buried.
Great video, thank you.
Look at how long of a beater rod Porcaro used and how much higher than dead center it landed. Of course you can't get the speed of the shorter rod but you sure get the punch for a groove
Your topics are always so timely with my own interests.... Can you do a segment or in parts covering "Down Tuned Kit Miking~internal vs External, Dual Internal Bass Drum Miking & Bass Drum Sub Mikes. I'm experimenting with Internal Miking of open bottom Roto Toms(6-8-10),[can I get away with 1 mike] + Concert toms(10-12-13-14-15-16ft-18ft) & Dual 22" Bass Drums on a 12+1 Studio Kit. I will be installing male XLR Pugs on the side of each tom and two in each bass drum. I bought 2 Audio Technica AT871UG Unidirectional Condenser Boundary Mike
s to face each batter head internally, and I was planning on a second internal bass mike facing the rez heads, but now I think I prefer Sub Mikes instead. Enjoying your channel a lot!
I play a ton of small kits on gigs I never notice it till you get right out to the edge. And I mean right near the edge. I play a martini kit as one of my mainline kits it actually sounds better that way more attack and less ring without having to mute.
I’m using a Gibraltar riser on my 18” bass drum, but it mounts the pedal further away from the head causing the beater to over rotate and not strike the head at 90 degrees. Definitely feels bad!
wish I watched this before I cut my new beater shaft........ Measure twice cut once
Well. Instinctively the answer would be yes it changes. I hear a difference but not significant enough to bother about it. I mean in the context of a song it makes even less difference. Also maybe that difference I perceive finds its roots more into loudness as you states and anything else.
My advice : Don't kill it on the altar of any kind of "perfectionism" or excessive rigour. Just enjoy playing.
Excellent video!
Really digging this channel
The longer shaft- E-=MC² - louder basketball BOOM lol
Btw, usually after I tune even my bass drum, I eventually work several inches in from each lug to test the tone and there seems to be a very large strike zone that won’t effect the kick, I play a 22 and currently have an EMAD on it and I have at least what you said about that 5 inch strike zone. I think it’s all about tuning, like you said.
One last thing, don’t they make pedals that are sorta sideways for those small bass drums? I know I’ve seen like it was a bass drum, but it had hardware for legs and was made into a upside down floor tom and then the beater of the pedal hits the underside of the floor tom, which is actually the batter side, and which is also actually the bass lol. Another good video for the future. Also, if you could drift to cymbals, the pneumatic hi hat stands would be a cool thing to really learn deep about.
Great stuff, as always!! ✌🏻
I've never noticed a difference on my bass drum..even when i would use a double bass pedal I never noticed a difference in sound from one beater to the other😊👍🇨🇱🥁
I’ve been wondering for a while... What would happen if you took a steel snare, put marching snare guts on it, and gave it an Evans hybrid head, and cranked it. How close could you get to a marching snare, with a drum set snare?
Funny how good the 18" sounds, did not expect that at all. Aw snap! now i want one...:-)
Small drums often get a bad reputation in comparison to large ones but it's all about the tuning and how you play it! Cheers! -Ben
Since I see you using a UV2 on that snare, I have a UV1 and UV2 in 14” and have two snares. One Pearl masters custom extra and steel sensitone. While I know it’s personal preference (I like a more open sound of my snare, embracing the resonance of the drum material), which would you put on which? I was thinking UV2 in the steel and UV1 on the maple.
Am I tripping or has the bassdrum moved on 10:18 at the second kick?
There is a difference but I think that no casual listener will ever notice.
What snare are you using? It sounds (and looks) amazing
Center hits sounded better except the 18” sounded interesting off center not better just interesting. If I really listen I centered I play mine slightly above center on a 22” but moving it higher does make it more playable.
Why death metal drummer switch from 22 to 20"?
what about the beater being off-center horizontally instead of vertically?
Lots of focus on the inertia of the pedal at different lengths, so why didn't you put a weight on the beater shaft when you made it smaller? It may not necessarily be a trade-off between the pedal feeling right and hitting where you want it to.
Simple solution is to bury the beater with ample foot pressure and tune around the tension applied from your kick pedal. That's an old trick That's really effective in practice 👌
That snare sounds awesome. What is it? How is it tuned?
Try the Active Grip sticks. Wonderful!!
They're cool but don't work for everyone. Unfortunately they give both of us blisters. Standard lacquer seems to work just fine for us.
My thoughts are if you are stuffing your bass drum with pillows and blankets and cutting a hole in the front head it will sound like a cardboard box no matter where you hit it. I would just keep the phrase "Sounds Like a Drum" in my mind. Great videos on this channel.
Paul Montero I use very little muffling in my bass drums I just have the white ring in mine that’s all I need .ive heard people with there bass drum over muffled and it just sounds terrible never ever would I do that to my bass drums after all there called bass drums not over muffled drum if your going to over muffle it it’s not bassy like it should be my dad had drums in the past and he over muffled his bass drum me I heardly muffle mine mine is more bassy then most peoples bass drums plus I play 22 by 18 bass drums don’t like smaller ones .
Whatever it takes to get the sound that you want given the context...if that means pillows/blankets and a port, then so be it.
@@SoundsLikeADrum OK, I did play a cardboard box once. We showed up at the gig expecting a drum set, but, there was none. When I said I could probably play a cardboard box, the owner accommodated us. It wasn't bad.
Cymbal sounds as whiskey tasting, from the live stream, was good comedy. Saddle leather LOL.
this is about physics, right, and that means leverage and fulcrum....
so it makes sense it would affect the action of the pedal more than the sound...
....and when you shortened the pedal WAY up that proved it....lol
what about a video with different bass head impact patches. falam slam, click disk, danmar metal click, moleskin, a piece of spare drum head, quarters/ silver dollar ... etc
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There is a difference between the two, think of it this way, if you want the bass drum to be the focal point then the center is the way to go. If you want the bass drum to live under the rest of the kit then closer to the hoop is what you want. This is from a mixing perspective
No, there is a difference
Hint: don't listen for a difference in tone, listen for the difference in the attack.
Question? Dose having a bass drum lift and good sort rubbers on the bass drum legs give you better shell resonance like a rims mounted Tom or changing the feet on your floor Tom from hard rubber feet to thicker soft ones. I recently did this to my 60s 14” floor Tom on a concrete floor and was amazed at how much more resonance the drum had than being choked, so was wondering if it was the same with a Bass Drum? Thanks, Steve from Tasmania.
*question,;does
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There is a difference in sound. Just like hitting the snare exactly center or a bit off.
My experience is that small differences doesn't really matter, unless you got to dial sound with a lot of attack or a lot of ring. Then the hitting position modifies the sound to better/worse. I find that for quick attack and quick sustain, hitting the center is the best. However the best attack comes from slightly off the center (more 'flap')
22" bass drum is usually the best for testing, since it's center is somewhat in the best "play zone" of your beater/pedal.
My 1999 Yamaha Maple custom absolute bass drum 20 inch by 16 has never ever ever sounded good. My 22 in 1966 Ludwig sounds fantastic. My 1968 20-in Rodgers sounds fantastic. I was experimenting trying to get the right head combination over and over and I finally lifted my Yamaha bass drum up off the ground a little bit on the batter side. The drum miraculously opened up! I could not believe I finally unlocked the secret to this sucky drum. So, I ordered a lift. I installed it and voila, the drum sounds King. Because of optical illusion, I was surprised at how far I was hitting above center with my pedal setup the way it was with no lift. I believe what is happening is two fold. the drum is being struck dead center now and the drum is free to vibrate more just like a Tom with a rezo mount. now on the 22, the kick sounds even more killer than before and I have never had an issue with that sound. the pedal is not as solid when installed on the lift as it is when it's clamped to the hoop, but the sound is so much better for me I'm staying with this new setup. I will not mention the name of the brand of the lift because they give me no money and I give them my money. I also don't want to seem like a troll on the internet making claims about certain lifts and certain makers of these lifts to try and secretly sell more product. so my lift will remain a secret. I did notice that my pedal set up changed a little, but I can go back to the slightly off center hit because the drum itself is singing much longer. Like the fundamental is was more rich.
I played tympani a lot in school, and if you hit one of them in the center, it sounds wretched.
So, I have always aimed for an off-center hit with my bass drums. Go figure.
That's the rationale a lot of people give, but I don't know if it can be applied to drums, since timpani are bowls, and drums are not. That said, my beaters strike about an inch above center (22" bass drum). I'm used to the way it feels, so I haven't thought about experimenting. I doubt I'd change it if I switched to an 18".
jC3drums is spot on here- the fact that timpani are closed-end, single-headed drums has everything to do with the physics here and why playing in the center is a dead spot. Cheers!
It's pretty easy to test without changing your pedal or anything, just hit it with a mallet. Most drums, hit nearer the edge, ring longer. But the tone gets high pitched and timbale-like. So I found my spot with a mallet decades ago, and that's where I hit it.
Marching tenors are another good example. Open on one end unlike timpani, but hit them in the center and they sound terrible.
I think it has a lot to do with the single head aspect. You have to rely on the batter head for all the resonance, so if you hit in the middle it chokes it.
It explains why there's a resonance difference in the small bass drum, but it's barely noticeable in the 24". There isn't as much resonant head offsetting/compensating for the batter head.
Timpani centers are the dead spot on the head because of the bowl. A double headed bass drum is totally different.
Interesting choice of topic!
Though I think your methods are quite sloppy, here's why.
- On the 24" the distance between points of impact is too short, you should have used a beater with an extra long shaft.
- For the 18" you should have used a more effective bassdrum raiser
For this test the Tama HP50 pedal, with adjustable posts, would have helped a lot.
I get the feeling you're not taking the subject serious enough to conduct proper testing and I've watched some of your other videos ( I loved the one about the Masshoff tuning method), so I know you can do better.
Keep up the good work!
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longer shaft= louder. got it.
Not necessarily but the idea is that more mass OR more spring resistance OR a longer travel distance requires more force to move and will often make you play a bit louder.
i like my beater way up high
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I want to show this video to everyone that buries the beater. I can’t stand it. I really feel like everyone does it. Stop burying the beater!
Burying the beater is a necessary technique if you want to have some versatility in your bass drum vocabulary. It's simply another stroke type. In some instances, burying the beater is THE stroke to use. But that's not always the case and learning to play various strokes will always allow you to be more musical.
@@SoundsLikeADrum As true as that is, I’d say it’s a bad habit to learn only to bury the beater and be stuck playing that way. As you said, that is a specific kind of stroke. Many people view it more so as an “either or” option to approaching the kick drum. It is not. It is two massively different things.
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Look at the Length of your Shaft the Bottom end If you Kept it there Would Rip a Hole in your Batter Head I've Fixed So many Cats that Do This and There No Need to cut the Shaft or Leave so much access below. It's Balance Riser Unbelievable what I'm Reading Below One Cat a 32 In BASS Drum There not any Reason fora Drum Kit To have a 32 Bass Drum only on a Parade Fied Maybe a 24 is More than enough Guys have Lost their Minds
Usually, you are pretty much Spot on? But this Video WT heck are you talking about? How do you not have a beater to hit the Center of your Bass Drum 18 on a Lift even? I'm totally blown away that you're so South of how to set up a BASS Drum to Hit Center? Now on your 24, It Sounded Better that you were about 2 inches North of Center But I m Watching Your Pedal Set up REALLY? You Buried the Head into your Drum Head. It had a Shorter Stroke and it was just Horrible You Blew this one guy Very Disappointed. In Fact, I'm so blown away that you Missed the Mark on this. NO Disrespect But I would Love to show you how to set up your BASS DRUM Pedal and Stroke to hit Center especially with a Riser.
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