Well you guys overloaded the website and it’s down 🤣🤣🤣. Secondly one quick update. The motor was replaced last year after the car hit a curb and lost all Of its oil and killed the bearings. But as mentioned here it’s still a 100% stock replacement :-)
@@jurjito I can say that w all of our S55 cars we have had no hub issue... so its sort of a mystery to me that everyone is doin this ''fix'' and we've not seen the other end of what needs to be fixed lol
We all should be thankful to Misha for: 1. Not talking during the lap 2. No putting some shitty music/other sounds during the lap 3. Filming this whole masterpiece 4. Sharing this movie with us 5. Aftermath explained in this movie 6. Transparency - Kubica did not take 19 but 36 laps From me: thanks Misha! I am planning to go to the Nürburgring and Apex will be definitely my only choice :-)
It really delivered, 10/10! Was way more fun to watch that, than following his DTM adventures, where unfortunately his car has been prepared sub par in the most cases (amateur team).
Amen to #2 especially. The amount of times other channels have the potentially epic soundtrack of an engine, whether a throbbing rotary on idle, a buzzing inline 4, cackling V8 or singing V10... But instead there is some god awful music over the top. Even if it was Pantera or some other killer groove that suits the mood of the engine or I'd happily listen to any other time ... NOT when the motor is running! 😬 I realise I'm ranting about the bad behaviour to those displaying the good! Sorry!
Shows you how good of a driver Robert K. is.. he was humble enough to ask for pointers and the guy was a rally driver not just F1.. he also completely rebuilt himself after a huge accident... amazing content Misha love the haters LOL.. most of them have never been on track before so F em!!! Trolls
BMW owe Apex and Kubica a bit of marketing money for this - he fucking HAMMERED that thing, and it's not significantly modified, and it took everything he could throw at it. Really impressive stuff to get that many fast laps out of it with no maintenance.
@@ChuckRage I used to race an '89 325is in Spec E30, and one of my coworkers raced a similar vintage Camaro in CMC. He said to me, "I hate you BMW guys. I spend every winter rebuilding everything on the car, and you all just change fluids, put on new brake pads and call it done."
I was on the ring that day in the GT86. He was so fast but really save. He took no changes overtaking me in a much slower car and with a much slower driver. So it looked really fast it was. He was kind he even waved at me when i gave way at him at the end of the Video. Great Video Misha.
I love the fact you, as an owner, aren't complaining about the cost of Robert full sending a car. I remember watching a video of some guy renting a Lambo and bitching for about 15 minutes because someone drove it to it's absolute limits. If you continue being this good of a boss I see many good things coming to you in the future.
@@AmarF you mean the one where another company pulled some shady dealings and sold a track rental package and then used Robs car to fulfill said rental without telling them thus sidestepping the Higher rate for a track rental used to cover the extra services that go into maintaining a car on a track? From a business perspective they were trying to steal from him, Hes justified in bitching about that. I say this because his business model isnt set up for track rentals, Its set up for street driving. Where you dont incur the extra maintenance fees, So you can charge less and still remain profitable. Which is why when a customer wants to go to a track they charge extra, to cover those costs. Thats like someone setting up a beer tent in front of my bar and charging 4 dollars a bottle of beer but then coming into my bar and buying from me at my rate. Its sketchy at best.
Kubica actually lapped 4 seconds quicker than Emerson Fittipaldi's qualy lap in 1976 (the last GP held at the Nordschleife). Granted, he drove in a Copersucar which was quite crap, qualified 20+ seconds slower than pole, but even that crap was a F1 car, driven by a two time world champion. Really impressive to do that in a stock BMW.
Aren't M4cs best times 7.38 and m4 GTS 7.27 (from 2015)? Someone mentioned Guilia QF record lap in the chat (which is slower), so I pulled up both these vids next to each other from their start time and you can see how Kubica is "casually" driving faster, with traffic, a passenger - at least to the point where there is a glitch in the video.. I had rented an M135i to do a few laps on the Ring (first one with an instructor), and watching this video was amazing.
And that’s with other people on the track sometimes stupidly falling asleep and getting in his way too. Would have probably gone under 7 had it not been for the other drivers on the track at the time impeding him
Pleased to hear Robert is a humble driver who even came and asked for some advice on the laps. There’s plenty of people who drive that track thinking they are the best.
every production car should be tesed in conditions like this, and I don't mean sports or track day cars, I mean every KIA Picanto. That's how you make sure it can last for years and years.
Even then, it's impressive to see the maintenance done to cars during endurance races. There's a video going around of teams changing brakes during a race and bleeding them in a total of like 90 seconds or something like that.
@@JeffNoel I believe some teams (at least porsche if I remember correctly) has a design where they replace the whole hub assemblly on their GT3 24hr cars because the wheel bearings go bad. So they do that a few times every race. Thats how they can keep on racing
Couldn’t agree more! To be honest i was a tiny bit underwhelmed with my M4 when i got it on the road here in the uk, it was skittish and unsettled. After the first track day in it, i understood what bmw were doing with the chassis and set up. Amazing on track.
daxosm on enjoyment it is faster around a track but i wanted a manual for starters and in the uk a manual was never offered on the alfa. Plus im a pre 2018 bmw fan boy so it was a no brainer for me. The guilia is beautiful tho and very fast.
daxosm Alfa Romeo might be faster but their reliability is awful. BMW has definitely stepped up their reliability and that’s being shown in this video. 20,000 track miles and the car is still running strong. Put an Alfa Romeo in that much pressure and watch it break. BMW is releasing the new G80/82 M3/4 that’ll beat the Alfa Romeo.
Thanks for the update! I believe that the conclusion everyone must reach is that: 1 - your m4 is an extremely tough and well engineered car. Withstand 750km of driving like shown in the previous video, going only through tires and pads is great. The wheel bearings I believe are perks of a hard driven track car. It happens. 2- you have very good pricing on that 12 lap package. Keep on with the great infformative videos! Cheers
Shows how a good driver can have mechanical sympathy and still be blisteringly fast, maybe less sympathy for the diffuser 😂 so good to watch these more regularly again its like my escape from the disaster the uk is right now 👍
famous rally drive Walter Rohrl refused to take part in certain rallies like the bumpy jumpy finland because he didnt like jumps and his mechanical sympathy
I just really appreciate the transparency, don't know why but things like that are really interesting to hear because thats a part of the business you normally don't get in touch with. Foodshot 0/10, hope you can afford something again soon :D
At least he still had some brake pads left as well as Calipers and pistons indeed 😇 Biggest difference is he didn't use MDM but all help systems off as I hear on the video.
I heard a funny story years ago about someone who "went out for a drive" on the road with James Hunt at the wheel. They had a bit of a bump and the car got written off :D
I hope BMW watches this and the Robert lap to see where improvement can be made on their cars. Well done Misha! Amazing documentation on the whole process with time stamps.
Robert Kubica is inspirational! Even though he's pretty much driving with only one had he's faster than 99.9% of drivers. His F1 comback didn't work out for him, but him even being able to come back is a great achievment in itself! Great video aswell!
I watched he interview with Robert (in polish). He said, that people use to think he is driving with one hand only but the truth is, that he is using right hand more that people think.
Why do you people think he is driving with one hand?? He said it himself many times he drives with both hands dont you think it would be little too dangerous to drive f1 or dtm with one hand only like wtf!?
F1 comeback was huge achivemnt by itself but Willliams ruined it, not intentionally of course. You can not shine and prove anything in the worst team with all of theirs problems and being 2nd driver. You just can't show your potential with crap car in a team which is sinking. That's why Williams is sold right now and it's not any more family f1 team. Reputation is damaged and peaope think, yeah that's because of his right arm, he is not anymore the same driver etc
I really enjoy how you guys just talk pragmatically from your experience and what the car has actually seen. Excited, enthusiastic, but no excess hype. I think this is pretty universal across professional, skilled, competent people with a lot of experience and passion for their craft.
Did anyone notice the unusual angle of Robert's right wrist on the steering wheel when he was driving the M4. His right arm was severely severed in his Ronde di Andora Rally crash in 2011 but it was saved and rebuilt over time by some amazing surgeons. He's a pretty gutsy bloke and I hope we see more of him.
I completely agreed that having Robert Kubica in your vdo is totally marketing gain. I planned to go to nurburgring this year (but the trip is cancel due to covid situation) and choosing between apex and rsr. That clip make apex the winner for me.
I’ve never seen a Beemer pushed like this… Kubica still has it. He was running down cars on the RING like they were standing still. He pushed that car to 10/10ths like it was nothing for him. There you have a formula 1 driver. I’d love to see Vettel, Hamilton, Kimi, Montoya or Alonso doing the same.
. . . Thank you for not talking too much through that video, it's actually nice to feel the lap, the sound of the engine, gear changes, skidding etc... it was a great video, I watched it and shared it with my dad who also loves motorsports and he also enjoyed it very much. Cheers and best regards from 🇨🇦 (Home of Kubica's memorable 2007 & 2008 GP) 😊✌
People have no idea, in general, how much load these cars take. Glad you guys posted this, and as a biz owner, it is nice to see another business transparent. When I come back, I will visit you guys directly. Thanks for the video share. Keep up the great work!!!
A very interesting and entertaining insight to the wear and tear on a track car. The lap with RK was awesome and the M4 handled it brilliantly. Thanks to you and George for this update. One day I hope to come to Apex and drive the green hell. One day...
I guess it depends on how good the chassis is. And „how little“ is relative, in terms of numbers of parts: yes. But I assume the jrz pro Suspension costs a fortune with like 6-8k€ maybe?
I loved that fact you kept silent. I thought that you did it because a) Robert did not need any guidance b) to give him space to focus on driving c) to give us an amazing POV lap with all the sounds (engine and the track) in the background
I have to agree with Misha and Robert, expirience driver wont brake the car driving it hard as much as avarage driver, like me( and i am driving pretty well!)
Great video, I like the "breath of fresh air" that the videos get, like they used to. And as for the m4, what about temperature problems? has anything changed in the cooling?
Legendary Robert. I love this guy. He should become one of your taxi-drivers Misha. Up the lap price to repair the cars afterwards 🤗Was it the evil company you worked before who demanded an instructor and didn't recognize Robert? 😐
This video should be mandatory to watch for all people saying Motorsport is pointless - Motorsport is exactly the reason we now have access to tech on a level allowing a mostly stock car to survive over 700km of track racing. That means that same tech will not go to bits while you're taking your family on a holiday trip. You can just use it and trust it and not worry about a 1000km motorway trip requiring anything more than refueling once in a while. And all of that thanks to racing and endurance racing in particular
Stock BMW M4 should go about 7:52 about the ring and M4 GTS was 7:27. So he was faster than that, sure there were some mods (weight, tires) but still it's impressive.
@@AlphaTVyt pretty sure they have decent roster of test drivers and just as big roster of racecar drivers. Keeping someone like Kubica or comparable in stock car for lenghty testing would be a waste of money for company and time for driver.
Misha thank you for this transparent video, you are killing it! As everyone else commented Apex is going to be the only target when visiting Nuerburgring.
I would love to have seen the video of the old boy driving Misha around, it would have been so funny 😂. Great video on how different driving styles can affect a car in different ways. Loving the videos. 👊🏻
Congratulations on filming that lap it was one of the most exciting that I have seen even if it wasn't the fastest and I think that there will be a lot of people that want to drive that M4 because Robert thrashed the hell out of it.
Thank you for making this video, comrades! It was amazing enough to see your video of Kubica driving, but for you to show and explain with such transparency and detail the after effects of his drive is, astounding. These 2 videos were incredibly enjoyable, thank you again
4:18 and onwards: I second that! Only time I've tried Nürburgring IRL so far was in july 2010 in a caged Suzuki Swift Sport (from RentRaceCar, don't think Theo und Heide runs it more, sadfully?) and 4 laps. First lap was OK, did some safe overtakings and had a feeling of hitting apex 90-95% perfectly for each corner and felt quite a quick lap on cool down from Döttinger Höhe. On 2nd and 3rd lap TONS of traffic! Porsches, Ferraris, the brand new LFA, BMW M4's, E92's and other cars with lots of power. Really, REALLY stressfull constantly having to look in your mirrors. Moreover a lot of drivers seemed not to be able to control the horse power. The constantly interrupted rythm led to some sort of nausea for me, having the thought more times just to park in the grass (though knowing that would not exactly be safety neither, ofcourse - hope ppl don't actually do that) until traffic cleared. Then I tooked a little break and picked up my girlfriend up for the last lap. She stated at least ten times that I should drive slowly, since she's afraid of speed. Before my drive, we had an instruction lap by old Theo himself (ACE driver!) in his Touran (must've been tuned), which made her seasick, sitting in the middle of the back seat- for me his instruction lap was all the money worth itself renting the car). But at lap 4 with my girlfriend in 'guest seat', the heavy traffic was gone, just normal traffic. Said to her that I felt the safest actually driving at speed, not having to look that much in the mirror. After around 30 x "STOP STOP STOOP" she finally relaxed at about Klostertal/Steilstrecke, and seemed accustumed to my driving. So I had my best exhillerating full gas ride between Wipperman throug Pflanzgarten right to Galgenkopf and no noisy sound from the passenger seat, just silence :-) Just this last section (and Theo's instruction lap) was all money worth it, desipite only enjoying less than half of the total distance behind the wheel. And that was in 2010. Now we have 2020 and I imagine it has gotten only worse with heavy trafic, mainly due to all the YT channels and videos which inaugurates new drivers to the track. I've watched (read: admired) Mishas videos the last three years or so and I see a lot of traffic indeed during TouristFahren. So the last couple of years I've had the thoughts to re-enter the track, maybe in a car with more power, but everytime I've have bad thoughts about increasing traffic. ...OK, no...I HAVE to go there again :-)
Very honest explanation! I loved to see that lap with Robert and was very curious what it would do to the coils, inner fender and wheelbearings. I would've never thought you would show us the aftermath right after :D Thank you so much on sharing and please keep on doing so!
There aren't any surprises here, and I think George shows that in his responses. Wheel bearings are consumable in any circuit use, and as you know the 'Ring is seriously vicious for those. You'd change them before a VLN race, wouldn't you? As for the brakes and tyres.. Doing that distance on 1.5 sets of tyres and still having half the pad left after 750km at near-race pace on such sticky tyres is testament to how well Kubica has managed the car. Thanks for sharing, but anyone saying the cars aren't strong enough is dead wrong. This is seriously impressive.
Makes you think how strong must those race cars be built to withstand 24h of Nordschleife... Thanks for APEX for giving Robert proper weapon and thanks heavens or whatever that Kubica met Misha and gave us this content :)
Misha got to say this, as a BMW M4 owner that is looking into what to change to make my M4 trackday ready I loved the part where you explained the mods. About the uniball control arms, what is the one that is installed ?
I love the transparency of this video and the explanations from George makes it very interesting. This is definitely made me want to come and pay for 20 laps of cruising.
Misha, I knew that as a race driver yourself that you were not scared, but enjoying every second of your ride with Robert. Would be interested to know greatest things you learned by this spectacular experience?
best performance mods for cars, suspension and brakes, even "sport" cars hace street oriented suspension, or people will complain that its too harsh for road use, im getting my hand on a c30 t5 the next months, and first things are going to be made, and only made, is suspension, loads of mountain roads in my area and is just necesary
Cheers for the follow up vid. Great to know the difference between an average driver and an expert. As mentioned. People rarely think of the associated costs in the background. Thumbs up :)
Some subscriptions come and go, but this channel will forever be my favourite. I've been watching since you were at the "other" place that we won't mention.
I feel bad for Misha to have to deal with people that can't even shift a manual... I mean if you can't even do this don't comment about anything. That F1 driver lap was a pleasure to watch and experience for Misha he loves racing and that what it all about!
Misha I have been waiting for this day for I think like 4-5 years! Finally you uploaded it on the same day! Only realy ogs knows that this is something special! Thank you so much and ofc like always amazing video!
Good point, only scared of being a passenger when someone isn't that good of a driver! Same for me man! Controlled speed makes me excited and smiling, kind of euphoric feeling :) Have sat in a 700kg 280PS swapped car and the guy (built that car himself) pushed on streets in absolute darkness, including drifting. It gave me that euphoric feeling and no fear at all, because I felt he was fully in control. Most likely, if I would watch a video of that, I'd get pretty tense! Maybe it's a point when we watch from behind the keyboard, we can't feel the drivers inputs, so some people could feel fear watching a video. My point is the video could make fear, but sitting in the car not :)
Well you guys overloaded the website and it’s down 🤣🤣🤣.
Secondly one quick update. The motor was replaced last year after the car hit a curb and lost all
Of its oil and killed the bearings. But as mentioned here it’s still a 100% stock replacement :-)
Keep that DDOS coming lol apex-nuerburg.com
Thank you very much! Very informative and interesting video!
@@jurjito I can say that w all of our S55 cars we have had no hub issue... so its sort of a mystery to me that everyone is doin this ''fix'' and we've not seen the other end of what needs to be fixed lol
Great video must be worth it in advertising
@@RobertMitchell is it not just crank hub fix when people are pushing power near on 700hp with turbo upgrades
We all should be thankful to Misha for:
1. Not talking during the lap
2. No putting some shitty music/other sounds during the lap
3. Filming this whole masterpiece
4. Sharing this movie with us
5. Aftermath explained in this movie
6. Transparency - Kubica did not take 19 but 36 laps
From me: thanks Misha! I am planning to go to the Nürburgring and Apex will be definitely my only choice :-)
It really delivered, 10/10!
Was way more fun to watch that, than following his DTM adventures, where unfortunately his car has been prepared sub par in the most cases (amateur team).
@@krisg822 If they get more customers after this, I`ll be happy. Misha did a great job
@@krisg822 and why is that?
7. Transparency in terms of costs
Amen to #2 especially. The amount of times other channels have the potentially epic soundtrack of an engine, whether a throbbing rotary on idle, a buzzing inline 4, cackling V8 or singing V10... But instead there is some god awful music over the top. Even if it was Pantera or some other killer groove that suits the mood of the engine or I'd happily listen to any other time ... NOT when the motor is running! 😬 I realise I'm ranting about the bad behaviour to those displaying the good! Sorry!
Shows you how good of a driver Robert K. is.. he was humble enough to ask for pointers and the guy was a rally driver not just F1.. he also completely rebuilt himself after a huge accident... amazing content Misha love the haters LOL.. most of them have never been on track before so F em!!! Trolls
He is one of the most humble people I've met!
True the fuckboys that are hating on this behind their computer screen is the best thing about this 2,5 m views in a few days
@@mgcharoudin he's expensive too
Omar Monelle 🤣🤣
@@mgcharoudin Because pride walks before the fall.
BMW owe Apex and Kubica a bit of marketing money for this - he fucking HAMMERED that thing, and it's not significantly modified, and it took everything he could throw at it. Really impressive stuff to get that many fast laps out of it with no maintenance.
I agree, my perception of BMW reliability / longevity has definitely improved after watching this. Had no idea they could stand up to this much abuse.
@@ChuckRage I used to race an '89 325is in Spec E30, and one of my coworkers raced a similar vintage Camaro in CMC. He said to me, "I hate you BMW guys. I spend every winter rebuilding everything on the car, and you all just change fluids, put on new brake pads and call it done."
Well he's an bmw dtm driver
@@hanselhathaway5486 No he isn't.
@@b3rs Yeah, he fucking is. He drives for BMW Orlen Team ART in DTM, and he had a podium last week.
I was on the ring that day in the GT86. He was so fast but really save. He took no changes overtaking me in a much slower car and with a much slower driver. So it looked really fast it was. He was kind he even waved at me when i gave way at him at the end of the Video. Great Video Misha.
Because Kubica is a very humble guy, that`s it
@@AlphaTVyt and also an expensive one
Super cool!
@@pablocastro1143 good things are always expensive.
Robert Kubica is fast, pro driver.
I"d would feel safer riding with Robert Kubica doing 200 MPH than with a taxi driver in a parking lot.
X D
Try me
How about Italian taxi drivers......🤣🤣🤣
@@paulohanlon714 Middle Eastern Uber drivers😅
You do know that he crashed and almost died right?
I love the fact you, as an owner, aren't complaining about the cost of Robert full sending a car. I remember watching a video of some guy renting a Lambo and bitching for about 15 minutes because someone drove it to it's absolute limits. If you continue being this good of a boss I see many good things coming to you in the future.
Rob Spaghetti? 😂
luis lopes YESSS looked him up, that's the guy, do you know the video I'm talking about?
Indeed. Huge respect Misha!
@@AmarF you mean the one where another company pulled some shady dealings and sold a track rental package and then used Robs car to fulfill said rental without telling them thus sidestepping the Higher rate for a track rental used to cover the extra services that go into maintaining a car on a track? From a business perspective they were trying to steal from him, Hes justified in bitching about that. I say this because his business model isnt set up for track rentals, Its set up for street driving. Where you dont incur the extra maintenance fees, So you can charge less and still remain profitable. Which is why when a customer wants to go to a track they charge extra, to cover those costs.
Thats like someone setting up a beer tent in front of my bar and charging 4 dollars a bottle of beer but then coming into my bar and buying from me at my rate. Its sketchy at best.
@@nightkil13r no, he made a video relatively recently where he just complained about a dude taking his Huracan to like 180mph
It doesn’t matter if you lost money, the video is an instant classic that will live on forever!
Marketing won... :)
Don't think that he lost money on the long run 😂
3 yes later. Over 10,000,000 views
3 yrs later. Over 10,000,000 views
Can't wait to book you as an instructor when I turn 87! That sounds like a terrific idea
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Just be sure to stop driving manuals as soon as you turn 67!
@@DeFausti Lmao
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@@mgcharoudin 7
7.24 in a "Stock" car... Thats very impressive! Kubica is a very fast driver! He has no fear! Always liked him because he dares to push to the limit!
Kubica actually lapped 4 seconds quicker than Emerson Fittipaldi's qualy lap in 1976 (the last GP held at the Nordschleife). Granted, he drove in a Copersucar which was quite crap, qualified 20+ seconds slower than pole, but even that crap was a F1 car, driven by a two time world champion. Really impressive to do that in a stock BMW.
Aren't M4cs best times 7.38 and m4 GTS 7.27 (from 2015)? Someone mentioned Guilia QF record lap in the chat (which is slower), so I pulled up both these vids next to each other from their start time and you can see how Kubica is "casually" driving faster, with traffic, a passenger - at least to the point where there is a glitch in the video.. I had rented an M135i to do a few laps on the Ring (first one with an instructor), and watching this video was amazing.
@@dens6960 Full lap vs Tourist lap times.
And that’s with other people on the track sometimes stupidly falling asleep and getting in his way too. Would have probably gone under 7 had it not been for the other drivers on the track at the time impeding him
The engine is stock !? Mr Kubica overtake those cars with stock engine !? My god.
That ride was awsome!!
power is not all . others were many times braking .
Ebay! I need a BMW M4 now!
@@pikethree Price and mileage to negotiation
He's an f1 racer. He knows how to keep up momentum with cornering and braking. He could probably overtake those guys in a fiat lol
I was genuinely curious about exactly this since I watched the lap..............
Pleased to hear Robert is a humble driver who even came and asked for some advice on the laps. There’s plenty of people who drive that track thinking they are the best.
Those are the ones who crash.
Still in better shape than Williams after quali😂
More like Ferrari nowadays
thats a dead meme
say f1000 instead
I meant the 2019 Car driven by Rob🙂
100% respect for You and Robert. Greetings from Poland and good luck for You and Your team! Your channel is definitely worth watching!!
We need an F1 GP in Poland cause it would inspire more Polisch lads to go racing and maybe reach f1.
@@jakemorandthemomoz8154 it’s cooking I think...
Impressive how racing cars can do a whole 24h of racing, must be another level of engineering
every production car should be tesed in conditions like this, and I don't mean sports or track day cars, I mean every KIA Picanto. That's how you make sure it can last for years and years.
Even then, it's impressive to see the maintenance done to cars during endurance races. There's a video going around of teams changing brakes during a race and bleeding them in a total of like 90 seconds or something like that.
@@JeffNoel my mechanic takes weeks but in a very good day, it takes him a full day to do stuff "quickly" lol
@@JeffNoel I believe some teams (at least porsche if I remember correctly) has a design where they replace the whole hub assemblly on their GT3 24hr cars because the wheel bearings go bad. So they do that a few times every race. Thats how they can keep on racing
@@JeffNoel thats more than likely because the parts are engineered that way
Makes you realize why f1 season costs 400 mil
The F80 M3 and M4 are so damn amazing that every time you drive it on track, it puts a massive smile on the face every single time.
Couldn’t agree more! To be honest i was a tiny bit underwhelmed with my M4 when i got it on the road here in the uk, it was skittish and unsettled. After the first track day in it, i understood what bmw were doing with the chassis and set up. Amazing on track.
Isn’t Giulia Quadrifoglio better?
daxosm Yes it’s better. And I would pick that car simply due to the amazing steering and the V6 2.9 litre is a gem in sound.
daxosm on enjoyment it is faster around a track but i wanted a manual for starters and in the uk a manual was never offered on the alfa. Plus im a pre 2018 bmw fan boy so it was a no brainer for me. The guilia is beautiful tho and very fast.
daxosm Alfa Romeo might be faster but their reliability is awful. BMW has definitely stepped up their reliability and that’s being shown in this video. 20,000 track miles and the car is still running strong. Put an Alfa Romeo in that much pressure and watch it break. BMW is releasing the new G80/82 M3/4 that’ll beat the Alfa Romeo.
Thanks for the update! I believe that the conclusion everyone must reach is that: 1 - your m4 is an extremely tough and well engineered car. Withstand 750km of driving like shown in the previous video, going only through tires and pads is great. The wheel bearings I believe are perks of a hard driven track car. It happens.
2- you have very good pricing on that 12 lap package.
Keep on with the great infformative videos! Cheers
Shows how a good driver can have mechanical sympathy and still be blisteringly fast, maybe less sympathy for the diffuser 😂 so good to watch these more regularly again its like my escape from the disaster the uk is right now 👍
famous rally drive Walter Rohrl refused to take part in certain rallies like the bumpy jumpy finland because he didnt like jumps and his mechanical sympathy
Kudos to George - there's a lot of responsibility on mechanics! Great video!
There 100% is not enough people realise this
Robert is a strong and great personality. A fighter and one of the best Formula 1 drivers. 💪😊👍 Good Video
I just really appreciate the transparency, don't know why but things like that are really interesting to hear because thats a part of the business you normally don't get in touch with.
Foodshot 0/10, hope you can afford something again soon :D
So shortly speaking a pro driver "destroys" the car much less than your average client
Absolutely true!
Smart comment
At least he still had some brake pads left as well as Calipers and pistons indeed 😇
Biggest difference is he didn't use MDM but all help systems off as I hear on the video.
I heard a funny story years ago about someone who "went out for a drive" on the road with James Hunt at the wheel. They had a bit of a bump and the car got written off :D
Diego G. Lol
Hope to see more videos with Robert :)
More Robert!!!
Thanks for watching guys!
Come lap with us: apex-nuerburg.com
I will!
@jakub17 you realize that a) 7:24 is BTG time and other official lap times are FULL LAP, which are 20-30 sec slower? And B) no one cares.
Man u are so lucky to have a ride w RK.
Rlly positive man u are. Greetings mate.
Forza RK
I hope BMW watches this and the Robert lap to see where improvement can be made on their cars.
Well done Misha! Amazing documentation on the whole process with time stamps.
Robert Kubica is inspirational!
Even though he's pretty much driving with only one had he's faster than 99.9% of drivers.
His F1 comback didn't work out for him, but him even being able to come back is a great achievment in itself!
Great video aswell!
I watched he interview with Robert (in polish). He said, that people use to think he is driving with one hand only but the truth is, that he is using right hand more that people think.
Watch Robert's WRC races and do it with one hand.
Gunnar lol
Why do you people think he is driving with one hand?? He said it himself many times he drives with both hands dont you think it would be little too dangerous to drive f1 or dtm with one hand only like wtf!?
F1 comeback was huge achivemnt by itself but Willliams ruined it, not intentionally of course. You can not shine and prove anything in the worst team with all of theirs problems and being 2nd driver. You just can't show your potential with crap car in a team which is sinking. That's why Williams is sold right now and it's not any more family f1 team. Reputation is damaged and peaope think, yeah that's because of his right arm, he is not anymore the same driver etc
I really enjoy how you guys just talk pragmatically from your experience and what the car has actually seen. Excited, enthusiastic, but no excess hype. I think this is pretty universal across professional, skilled, competent people with a lot of experience and passion for their craft.
1:47 "720p camera quality? We are not in 1998 anymore"
Meanwhile me watching this in 480p cuz my internet sukz: *sad noises*
Sameee😂😂
Lmao im watching everything in youtube at 144p cuz you know, Philippines
720p here and its actually more than good enough. I also hate this high standard demanding thinking of people watching free content on the internet...
??? What .. where on earth can u not watch in HD?
@@Meemzeh anywhere you are in a budget.
All that's left IS MISHA ARE YOU GOIN TO RACE WITH ROBERT PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Did anyone notice the unusual angle of Robert's right wrist on the steering wheel when he was driving the M4. His right arm was severely severed in his Ronde di Andora Rally crash in 2011 but it was saved and rebuilt over time by some amazing surgeons. He's a pretty gutsy bloke and I hope we see more of him.
I completely agreed that having Robert Kubica in your vdo is totally marketing gain. I planned to go to nurburgring this year (but the trip is cancel due to covid situation) and choosing between apex and rsr. That clip make apex the winner for me.
This may be the most interesting and informative video on TH-cam I’ve ever seen. You just got new subscriber👊
That's very good video man. Actually short and briefly, everything explained without bs.
He did that with the stock engine, oh my gosh XD
I’ve never seen a Beemer pushed like this… Kubica still has it. He was running down cars on the RING like they were standing still. He pushed that car to 10/10ths like it was nothing for him. There you have a formula 1 driver. I’d love to see Vettel, Hamilton, Kimi, Montoya or Alonso doing the same.
Phenomenal video, always wondered how hard those kind of laps are on a car.
Not to kind apparently 🤣
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Thank you for not talking too much through that video, it's actually nice to feel the lap, the sound of the engine, gear changes, skidding etc... it was a great video, I watched it and shared it with my dad who also loves motorsports and he also enjoyed it very much.
Cheers and best regards from 🇨🇦
(Home of Kubica's memorable 2007 & 2008 GP) 😊✌
People have no idea, in general, how much load these cars take. Glad you guys posted this, and as a biz owner, it is nice to see another business transparent. When I come back, I will visit you guys directly. Thanks for the video share. Keep up the great work!!!
Thank you Misha and George. Great vid! and wonderful to hear such transparency. Like no other company!
A very interesting and entertaining insight to the wear and tear on a track car. The lap with RK was awesome and the M4 handled it brilliantly. Thanks to you and George for this update. One day I hope to come to Apex and drive the green hell. One day...
This show actually how little you have to do to a car to make it crazy fast and great on track
I guess it depends on how good the chassis is. And „how little“ is relative, in terms of numbers of parts: yes. But I assume the jrz pro Suspension costs a fortune with like 6-8k€ maybe?
@@pin9r correct
M4 is very good car from factory, really stiff and relatively light. Well, good apart from the exhaust sound then. :D
A good aftermarket ECU and a tune is all you'd really need to make a car go faster. Maybe a K&N stock replacement air filter to help it breath.
Upgrade the driver first!
One of the best on boards of the ring on TH-cam. The commitment on this lap is insane hope he gets a vln seat !
I loved that fact you kept silent. I thought that you did it because a) Robert did not need any guidance b) to give him space to focus on driving c) to give us an amazing POV lap with all the sounds (engine and the track) in the background
I have to agree with Misha and Robert, expirience driver wont brake the car driving it hard as much as avarage driver, like me( and i am driving pretty well!)
Great video, I like the "breath of fresh air" that the videos get, like they used to. And as for the m4,
what about temperature problems? has anything changed in the cooling?
It's all good!
Very much enjoyed the lap with Robert and this follow up, great videos guys. That Suzuki tool box is awesome too.
Your mechanic certainly knows his stuff.. Sounds like he's from the UK... Best of British 👍👍😎.
He is
Really enjoyed the vid! You should include him more
Agreed. George sounds like a boss. What’s his background? Prior race team post? Factory mechanic?
We need more tech talk with George :D
Yes great insights from George 👍
Robert K. The sign of a master is that he or she knows there is ALWAYS something to learn.
Good follow up video. Thumbs up for George, very knowledgeable.
Appreciate the transparency! Great video, thanks for sharing.
Legendary Robert. I love this guy. He should become one of your taxi-drivers Misha. Up the lap price to repair the cars afterwards 🤗Was it the evil company you worked before who demanded an instructor and didn't recognize Robert? 😐
But he is expensive 🤣
This video should be mandatory to watch for all people saying Motorsport is pointless - Motorsport is exactly the reason we now have access to tech on a level allowing a mostly stock car to survive over 700km of track racing. That means that same tech will not go to bits while you're taking your family on a holiday trip. You can just use it and trust it and not worry about a 1000km motorway trip requiring anything more than refueling once in a while. And all of that thanks to racing and endurance racing in particular
Did I get it right? Basically kubica is nearly as fast with the m4 than a Senna with a normal driver sending it? :)
Imagine him in the Senna
Stock BMW M4 should go about 7:52 about the ring and M4 GTS was 7:27. So he was faster than that, sure there were some mods (weight, tires) but still it's impressive.
@@Arhey I am wondering if BMW will offer some kind of cooperation to Misha and Robert, if not - they are loosers
@@AlphaTVyt pretty sure they have decent roster of test drivers and just as big roster of racecar drivers. Keeping someone like Kubica or comparable in stock car for lenghty testing would be a waste of money for company and time for driver.
@@MindBlowerWTF You don't understand marketing at all, do you?
I really like these videos with a break down of the car - it’s great to see what the car goes through after some hard laps !! Nice one Misha 👍
Kubica is living on the other planet, it isn't possibleto be as good as him!!!
Super happy for you!
Thanks for the uncommonly open and honest insights and keep on rocking the business!
what did Bob Kube have to say about the video getting 2.5m hits! Something like ' but now I am even more expensive!"
Misha thank you for this transparent video, you are killing it! As everyone else commented Apex is going to be the only target when visiting Nuerburgring.
I would love to have seen the video of the old boy driving Misha around, it would have been so funny 😂. Great video on how different driving styles can affect a car in different ways. Loving the videos. 👊🏻
This kind of videos are one of the best ones here Misha! Thank you!
George (mechanic) seems like such a nice guy. Part of your great team.
Congratulations on filming that lap it was one of the most exciting that I have seen even if it wasn't the fastest and I think that there will be a lot of people that want to drive that M4 because Robert thrashed the hell out of it.
Robert drove the hell out that car.
That is the best video I have seen on TH-cam. Thank you so much for taking the time to make it and share it.
Thank you for making this video, comrades! It was amazing enough to see your video of Kubica driving, but for you to show and explain with such transparency and detail the after effects of his drive is, astounding. These 2 videos were incredibly enjoyable, thank you again
RK is pure class, both videos were great. Top work!
Thank you for the effort of putting those timestamps in :D
The last tip for CV was genius!
Yes!
Robert Mitchell looks at the Robert Kubica M4 video view numbers.
"But my name is Robert too....." 😥
😁
Misha!!!!!!!!! Great work man. Happy for you and Robert and the gang. 👍🏿👊🏿
4:18 and onwards: I second that!
Only time I've tried Nürburgring IRL so far was in july 2010 in a caged Suzuki Swift Sport (from RentRaceCar, don't think Theo und Heide runs it more, sadfully?) and 4 laps.
First lap was OK, did some safe overtakings and had a feeling of hitting apex 90-95% perfectly for each corner and felt quite a quick lap on cool down from Döttinger Höhe.
On 2nd and 3rd lap TONS of traffic! Porsches, Ferraris, the brand new LFA, BMW M4's, E92's and other cars with lots of power. Really, REALLY stressfull constantly having to look in your mirrors. Moreover a lot of drivers seemed not to be able to control the horse power. The constantly interrupted rythm led to some sort of nausea for me, having the thought more times just to park in the grass (though knowing that would not exactly be safety neither, ofcourse - hope ppl don't actually do that) until traffic cleared.
Then I tooked a little break and picked up my girlfriend up for the last lap. She stated at least ten times that I should drive slowly, since she's afraid of speed. Before my drive, we had an instruction lap by old Theo himself (ACE driver!) in his Touran (must've been tuned), which made her seasick, sitting in the middle of the back seat- for me his instruction lap was all the money worth itself renting the car). But at lap 4 with my girlfriend in 'guest seat', the heavy traffic was gone, just normal traffic. Said to her that I felt the safest actually driving at speed, not having to look that much in the mirror.
After around 30 x "STOP STOP STOOP" she finally relaxed at about Klostertal/Steilstrecke, and seemed accustumed to my driving. So I had my best exhillerating full gas ride between Wipperman throug Pflanzgarten right to Galgenkopf and no noisy sound from the passenger seat, just silence :-)
Just this last section (and Theo's instruction lap) was all money worth it, desipite only enjoying less than half of the total distance behind the wheel.
And that was in 2010. Now we have 2020 and I imagine it has gotten only worse with heavy trafic, mainly due to all the YT channels and videos which inaugurates new drivers to the track. I've watched (read: admired) Mishas videos the last three years or so and I see a lot of traffic indeed during TouristFahren. So the last couple of years I've had the thoughts to re-enter the track, maybe in a car with more power, but everytime I've have bad thoughts about increasing traffic.
...OK, no...I HAVE to go there again :-)
Theo and Heide focus more on Ring Taxi business, but they still do some rentals. I want an instruction lap from Theo 😳
@@mgcharoudin Ah yes, I discovered their old web domain redirected to RingTaxi. But first of all I'm very delighted to hear they are still among us ❤
Very honest explanation! I loved to see that lap with Robert and was very curious what it would do to the coils, inner fender and wheelbearings. I would've never thought you would show us the aftermath right after :D Thank you so much on sharing and please keep on doing so!
There aren't any surprises here, and I think George shows that in his responses. Wheel bearings are consumable in any circuit use, and as you know the 'Ring is seriously vicious for those. You'd change them before a VLN race, wouldn't you? As for the brakes and tyres.. Doing that distance on 1.5 sets of tyres and still having half the pad left after 750km at near-race pace on such sticky tyres is testament to how well Kubica has managed the car. Thanks for sharing, but anyone saying the cars aren't strong enough is dead wrong. This is seriously impressive.
Wishing you and your team all the best for the future. Excellent service 👏
Makes you think how strong must those race cars be built to withstand 24h of Nordschleife...
Thanks for APEX for giving Robert proper weapon and thanks heavens or whatever that Kubica met Misha and gave us this content :)
Офигенное видео! Спасибо Миша! Предыдущее с Кубицей просто 🔥
Misha got to say this, as a BMW M4 owner that is looking into what to change to make my M4 trackday ready I loved the part where you explained the mods. About the uniball control arms, what is the one that is installed ?
You may want to contact Team Shirmer to see if they can help you. I believe they buily this car.
@@rheijne95 what do you mean by they bully this car?
What Rick says is correct. Schirmer has done a lot of work on this car.
@@orangeInc311 He obviously meant 'built' but made a mistake with typing.
I love the transparency of this video and the explanations from George makes it very interesting. This is definitely made me want to come and pay for 20 laps of cruising.
“Live from Nurburgring’’ video editing is a fast like a R. Kubica
Thanks for the debrief. Robert is a machine!
Misha, I knew that as a race driver yourself that you were not scared, but enjoying every second of your ride with Robert. Would be interested to know greatest things you learned by this spectacular experience?
Thanks for such an open view into the APEX business. Big props on the mega RK vid.
best performance mods for cars, suspension and brakes, even "sport" cars hace street oriented suspension, or people will complain that its too harsh for road use, im getting my hand on a c30 t5 the next months, and first things are going to be made, and only made, is suspension, loads of mountain roads in my area and is just necesary
Roll pin on the CV boot is geniues! Goes to show how reliable these BMWs are! This makes me want to build a weekend track car!
Most drivers at the ring like it that their passengers are quiet, the track needs concentration if you go fast. :D
Cheers for the follow up vid. Great to know the difference between an average driver and an expert. As mentioned. People rarely think of the associated costs in the background. Thumbs up :)
Can you get him to destroy another car? Please? This is better than racing
Some subscriptions come and go, but this channel will forever be my favourite. I've been watching since you were at the "other" place that we won't mention.
I feel bad for Misha to have to deal with people that can't even shift a manual... I mean if you can't even do this don't comment about anything.
That F1 driver lap was a pleasure to watch and experience for Misha he loves racing and that what it all about!
Misha I have been waiting for this day for I think like 4-5 years! Finally you uploaded it on the same day! Only realy ogs knows that this is something special! Thank you so much and ofc like always amazing video!
Good point, only scared of being a passenger when someone isn't that good of a driver!
Same for me man!
Controlled speed makes me excited and smiling, kind of euphoric feeling :)
Have sat in a 700kg 280PS swapped car and the guy (built that car himself) pushed on streets in absolute darkness, including drifting.
It gave me that euphoric feeling and no fear at all, because I felt he was fully in control.
Most likely, if I would watch a video of that, I'd get pretty tense!
Maybe it's a point when we watch from behind the keyboard, we can't feel the drivers inputs, so some people could feel fear watching a video.
My point is the video could make fear, but sitting in the car not :)
Very interesting video, probably the best yet 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😃 Thanks 🙏
Kubica alone did 36 laps?!
Absolute madlad
I wanna see those laps. All!
@@PMR84 apex should put onboard cameras on all cars so when some fast people turn up we could get to see those laps
Ha Ha Ha - I was waiting for that Video since it was announced. Great to have that detailed look on it. Superb Video! - Well explained.
I will be so happy to Robert drive my Focus 1.6 tdci!!!😁🤣 Love the video!!! 🤍👍💪
That Porsche GT2 he overtaken like it was a citroen 2CV or trabant would be a worthy oponent for the Robert in yours car LOL
Robert was only 17 seconds slower than a senna. Crazy
So, Robert was right after all: he was expensive 🤣🤣