You got me, so I subscribed (started watching your videos this month & am hooked). Pay me back by staying out of my other league members' feeds; don't need to help them out
Dude whenever I watch their show I feel the same way they are so thoughtful and knowledgeable but then they say some clown sh*t like we should draft Courtland Sutton and I'm like am I dumb or did they just over think it? 😂 I'm still gonna watch though love the data driven approach.
Increasing amount of bestball content out there but nobody marries the ball-knowing, depth of knowledge, concise delivery and seamless production value that Josh and Hayden pull off. 1.01 show for dynasty
Like that you guys include video footage with your commentary. Keep up the great takes and analysis. First time viewer of your podcast this year and am loving it.
josh allen wanted keon. "He texted me the day of and was like, 'You're the guy I want. I watched a lot of receivers and I want to play with you,'" don't sleep on keon or dell. Texans Drafted Nathaniel Dell at C.J. Stroud’s Request. these QBs have power !
I don't like when people completely dismiss a players performance because they're playing against 2's & 3's. You play who you play and if you dominate then you will move up on the roster. It's only preseason but capitalizing on every rep is needed for a lot of guys like Burton and so far he has.
@@JoshandHayden yes, it was more from other forums I'm seeing people dismiss other players like Evan Hull and Jaylen Wright but then don't talk about Benson looking horrible against similar talent. This happens annually in the public however lol
Last time I cared about preseason I was like 12 years old and I dropped Sean Alexander for Tim Dwight after he returned a kickoff TD (Right before Alexander got the starting job due to injury) 💀
Bills know what they have in Shakir. Makes sense that they want to emphasize looks for Coleman and Samuel with Josh Allen. I think Shakir is going to get a good role in the offense.
Does underdog have a problem with the Sprint and Marathon not filling? Or are we still confident these will fill up before kick off? Do these two events being open prevent more new events from opening?
For rookies, how do you determine if he’s getting playing time because he’s actually ahead on the depth chart versus emphasizing getting experience in a preseason environment?
Rate My Team Half Ppr 3 Wr 2 Flx 7 Bench Starters Richardson Jamarr London Waddle Montgomery Walker Ferguson Metcalf Aiyuk Bench Dell Nabers Marv Stevenson Gibson Pollard Spears Charbonet Bowers Need do a 3 for 1 to roster a defense and kicker Did I go too wr heavy even if I can start 5? Made a lot of trades to get to this point
@@maskcollector6949 in a league where i can start 5 wrs and only need to start 2 rbs, their value isnt as high i took swings on rbs in good offesnses like mont and walker and volume plays like stevenson who is young. Just need one of my rbs to hit as legit top 8 and im solid. If not then i have marvin nabers and dell on my bench to trade
@@TheBilalUddin Lol there's not much shot of a top 8 outside of Monty but Gibbs won't be out long. Again this is a tiny league so obviously you're going up against super teams with like CMC/BIJAN/JT stacks etc. You underrated rb way too heavy cause you HAVE to start two every week imo. Just cause you have expensive pieces doesn't mean people will trade you, just a heads up. You're going to end up juggling WR's and headscratching who's best and inevitably not picking the right ones a lot and your rb's will hurt you there. At least you have Rhomondre and Gibson but I don't expect a whole lot beyond a flex spot at best imo from either, especially in a tiny league. It's a lot easier to draft guys where you don't have to question who's balling out each week and have firmer starters. You do realize the top rb's average like 21ppg in ppr formats? It's a big jump from 10-16 ppg avg probably you're looking at. At this point you're all in on DET, cause I for sure wouldn't trade a top rb to this roster unless you way overpaid and then your depth is weak. I'd look for sleeper rbs and just keep an eye out but I think you're oversimplifying a midseason trade. All your WR's can ball but everyone is doing the same thing lol.
Xavier Worthy is a huge gamble, teams are going to press him in real games. He can't handle press coverage. He got knocked on his @$$ by press during camp. He's to small and it will hinder his NFL career. He's 5'11" and only 172 lbs.
It's an obvious issue that I'm sure they're accounting for. Reid ain't gonna move up in the 1st to take a WR he's worried about handling press coverage. Just move him off the line, for ex.
@@garysiegel5112 he was literally drafted because he was the fastest 40 time in combine history. He's tiny and will end up being another John Ross. Edit: look up the video of him in camp against press coverage. He literally got shoved on his @$$ by a corner.
Not a "huge" gamble considering where you can get him in drafts. I'd rather gamble on potential upside than take a "safe" pick in the later portion of the draft.
@@nathanbaca5131 Not much of a gamble right now for FFB. Just got him in the 12th in a superflex. More of a gamble for the Chiefs, maybe, but I believe they can scheme him
@@cameronzwicke5761John Ross was drafted because of his 40 time, Worthy was not. He broke out as a true freshman in college with 900+ yards and has shown all the traits of a 1st round prospect since
I know I listened to the whole pod, but did I miss you guys talk about the kids from the Rams? Cuz Puka was injury prone in college, and Kupp is injury prone now. So, I know you guys had to have covered the Cowboys Rams game. That boi J. Whittington was cooking the Cowboys.
Telling watchers that subscribing, leaving like and reviews will make more people see the content isn't the best sales pitch for doing so. Not a high EV move to get our opponents who are unaware of how great of a resource you guys are to stumble upon you because we made it easier for them to find you because we did so.
@@DerultimateKeksI promise you their community is big enough for them to be making plenty of money lol so let’s chill on them dying out. They’re not some small family ran diner
Chances are your leaguemates already watch most of the channels too lol. Unless you are talking about work, family leagues. Or as one TH-camr calls it, your grandma league haha. Last year in my friend's league he had auto play on TH-cam playing on FF and at least 3 different channels videos I also watch also came up before our draft started.
@@cameronzwicke5761I think theyre all gonna be available at the 4 spot. At least usually in mock drafts. I'm hoping Hill falls to me but I won't plan on it.
23:46 stroud should be higher than Richardson and love should be above them both. I love stroud and he helped me win my league last year after Rodger’s went down. Some of these qb rankings seem absurd this year. Josh Allen also shouldn’t be that high
Friendly reminder that Quentin Johnston is not a good receiver. I told people not to draft him or pick him all last year and his situation appears to be even worse this year with zero competition. Steve Smith Sr nailed his analysis on him.
Bills wr room is nothing to react to… it’s logical to give coleman the most reps to evaluate him and develop him bc he is a raw rookie. Curtis knows the coaching staff here. he’s a veteran.
Man, y’all are telling us that they Keyon Coleman couldn’t even get open in the professional league. Now he’s gonna be the number one receiver on the bills that hurts my Underdog draft.😅
Hi guys. Love the content... There is something I don't understand and I'd love your opinion. Both Bo Nix and JT Daniels have WRs that were their go to WRs last yr in college. (McCaffrey and Franklin) Why are those wrs not on 1st teams rotation ? It just seems stupid to over look that... Or does that situation happen often and I've missed it.
You guys are clearly getting your data & analytics sniped by other ''FF Guru's'' & Now Billy B. Is about to start popping up as the 3rd boy genius on the show!.... I want you guys to get your flowers but I don't want any of my FF groups to find you guys, Can't give up the secret! 😂
I don't think Pete Carroll is a good coach , he tried to throw the ball into the end zone from the 1 yd line on 1st down in the Super Bowl and through an interception when they had Derek Henry on their team.. 😂
i know its selfish but still kinda glad theses likes are this low, imagine showing up to a home league draft without these constant- live updating- golden nuggets
61% of you who watch are not subscribed! Be a part of the 39% instead... Hit that button 🔴
This is the craziest stat you shared all video!
If half of the 61% join us, we will be become 69%. That would be nice.
You got me, so I subscribed (started watching your videos this month & am hooked). Pay me back by staying out of my other league members' feeds; don't need to help them out
I just did, couldn't believe I wasn't subscribed already! TH-cam has been feeding me your vids, which I've been enjoying, so I think I assumed I was.
begging for vegas come on.
Underdog Fantasy Show is S-tier content
S-tier viewers imo
@@JoshandHayden😲😲😲 what does that make the 40% viewers that actually hit that subscribe button 😂
Dude whenever I watch their show I feel the same way they are so thoughtful and knowledgeable but then they say some clown sh*t like we should draft Courtland Sutton and I'm like am I dumb or did they just over think it? 😂
I'm still gonna watch though love the data driven approach.
@@MisterH1984 Bo Nix is gonna be better than Russell mi boyo 👌👌 like last year he’ll at least be a good late pick with potential to be better
Guys, thank you for always having an intelligent take on player performances without being biased.
thank you for always watching
Increasing amount of bestball content out there but nobody marries the ball-knowing, depth of knowledge, concise delivery and seamless production value that Josh and Hayden pull off. 1.01 show for dynasty
Like that you guys include video footage with your commentary. Keep up the great takes and analysis. First time viewer of your podcast this year and am loving it.
MF really said "Joever" lmao 51:30
Need to hear that, it will change my life
Josh doesnt even blink lmao
😂 my wife asks me now if that's "Jayden & Hosh" 🤣... you guys are like my distant cousins she's never met but are always on TV around here 😆
my wife refuses to watch... tell her we appreciate it
I think you guys are in my top tier of all the other analysts out there. You guys break things down the way I would want it done. Keep them coming
The main takeaway from the Broncos WR room: Courtland Sutton could be a league winner
Josh and Hayden, just lettin you guys know that there is NO better fantasy football content on the internet.
josh allen wanted keon. "He texted me the day of and was like, 'You're the guy I want. I watched a lot of receivers and I want to play with you,'" don't sleep on keon or dell. Texans Drafted Nathaniel Dell at C.J. Stroud’s Request. these QBs have power !
Sutton will be a top 24 WR and no one’s talking about him
Bout time yall did a video with flock fantasy 😂 he could learn a thing or two
AD was already going ahead of Downs on Underdog before the injury.
I don't like when people completely dismiss a players performance because they're playing against 2's & 3's. You play who you play and if you dominate then you will move up on the roster. It's only preseason but capitalizing on every rep is needed for a lot of guys like Burton and so far he has.
Glad we offered both sides of that conversation
@@JoshandHayden yes, it was more from other forums I'm seeing people dismiss other players like Evan Hull and Jaylen Wright but then don't talk about Benson looking horrible against similar talent. This happens annually in the public however lol
laquon treadwell had heroic TD are we drafting him ?!
Burton has no shot of moving past wr3 so I’m not sure what the point is
@@DP-gb8qu only reason is because of off field issues, the talent is obviously there
Last time I cared about preseason I was like 12 years old and I dropped Sean Alexander for Tim Dwight after he returned a kickoff TD (Right before Alexander got the starting job due to injury) 💀
Lol
My go to source for takes and info on players! Love the content!
I'm drafting Sooo much Taysom at TE lol
Shhhh don’t let the cat out the bag
I like him for best ball, but not for redraft.
Bills know what they have in Shakir. Makes sense that they want to emphasize looks for Coleman and Samuel with Josh Allen. I think Shakir is going to get a good role in the offense.
Elite show dudes 🫡
did you guys do a vid similar to this but focused on RB AND TE? thought I saw that but not can't find it 🤔 thanks for all your efforts 👍♥️
Underdog Fantasy always bring the heat, much appreciated.
love this type of content sick video guys
WHERE ARE MY BEN SINNOTT TRUTHERS AT. KSU players never get seriously analyzed :( We just got ranked 18th in AP Poll!
Hes my third heaviest player in BB @ 24% I did more than half on my drafts before May so I was taking him in the last couple rounds.
Does underdog have a problem with the Sprint and Marathon not filling? Or are we still confident these will fill up before kick off? Do these two events being open prevent more new events from opening?
You guys are the absolute best. Completely ditched the FP now. Who needs those clowns. Everything you need is right here.
FP is more for home leagues
Tf is fp
@@theYT_moderator FantasyPros
Moving forward can you layer in the context of if these good plays were against starting or backup defenses? Might be asking too much
you guys are simply the best... thanks again!
Our pleasure!
My favorite fantasy football show hands down. Where can I find a list of Josh's rankings?
STOP GIVING ME KAMALA ADDS TH-cam… IM NOT GIVING HER MONEY
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We already know you don’t have money stop yelling
yeah! i already spent all my money on underdog drafts!
lmao look at these dirty libs^^^. if Kamala gets elected this country will burn to the ground
I'll give her a dollar if she gives me what she's famous for...
For rookies, how do you determine if he’s getting playing time because he’s actually ahead on the depth chart versus emphasizing getting experience in a preseason environment?
When will your guys full rankings for each position come out?
Rate My Team Half Ppr 3 Wr 2 Flx 7 Bench
Starters
Richardson
Jamarr
London
Waddle
Montgomery
Walker
Ferguson
Metcalf
Aiyuk
Bench
Dell
Nabers
Marv
Stevenson
Gibson
Pollard
Spears
Charbonet
Bowers
Need do a 3 for 1 to roster a defense and kicker
Did I go too wr heavy even if I can start 5?
Made a lot of trades to get to this point
8 team money league even still i think its solid
10th palce
Good luck against the god tier RBs with Kenneth Walker lol
@@maskcollector6949 in a league where i can start 5 wrs and only need to start 2 rbs, their value isnt as high
i took swings on rbs in good offesnses like mont and walker and volume plays like stevenson who is young. Just need one of my rbs to hit as legit top 8 and im solid. If not then i have marvin nabers and dell on my bench to trade
@@TheBilalUddin Lol there's not much shot of a top 8 outside of Monty but Gibbs won't be out long. Again this is a tiny league so obviously you're going up against super teams with like CMC/BIJAN/JT stacks etc. You underrated rb way too heavy cause you HAVE to start two every week imo. Just cause you have expensive pieces doesn't mean people will trade you, just a heads up. You're going to end up juggling WR's and headscratching who's best and inevitably not picking the right ones a lot and your rb's will hurt you there. At least you have Rhomondre and Gibson but I don't expect a whole lot beyond a flex spot at best imo from either, especially in a tiny league. It's a lot easier to draft guys where you don't have to question who's balling out each week and have firmer starters. You do realize the top rb's average like 21ppg in ppr formats? It's a big jump from 10-16 ppg avg probably you're looking at. At this point you're all in on DET, cause I for sure wouldn't trade a top rb to this roster unless you way overpaid and then your depth is weak. I'd look for sleeper rbs and just keep an eye out but I think you're oversimplifying a midseason trade. All your WR's can ball but everyone is doing the same thing lol.
Appreciate what you guys do! Can you guys do a video on the packers WRs please? 🙏🏼
Xavier Worthy is a huge gamble, teams are going to press him in real games. He can't handle press coverage. He got knocked on his @$$ by press during camp. He's to small and it will hinder his NFL career. He's 5'11" and only 172 lbs.
It's an obvious issue that I'm sure they're accounting for. Reid ain't gonna move up in the 1st to take a WR he's worried about handling press coverage. Just move him off the line, for ex.
@@garysiegel5112 he was literally drafted because he was the fastest 40 time in combine history. He's tiny and will end up being another John Ross. Edit: look up the video of him in camp against press coverage. He literally got shoved on his @$$ by a corner.
Not a "huge" gamble considering where you can get him in drafts. I'd rather gamble on potential upside than take a "safe" pick in the later portion of the draft.
@@nathanbaca5131 Not much of a gamble right now for FFB. Just got him in the 12th in a superflex. More of a gamble for the Chiefs, maybe, but I believe they can scheme him
@@cameronzwicke5761John Ross was drafted because of his 40 time, Worthy was not. He broke out as a true freshman in college with 900+ yards and has shown all the traits of a 1st round prospect since
Great video guys
Would love to see the players flex their power during the next CBA negotiations and get some legitimate concessions from ownership.
Concessions from owners? No. YOU pay more for Sunday ticket, tickets in general, merchandise...
I gotta decide between spears and C Samuel for my last keeper...both the same draft capital....who would you keep?
Samual.
OK thanks man
Watching the Saints play my biggest take away was that both back up QBs looked better than Derek Carr. And, don't sleep on A.T. Perry.
Make sure you have a 5 gallon container of Water for The Camel known as The Fantasy Flock. He drinks water like I drink Beer. By the Gallon.
I gotta say if ALL cheifs WRs are healthy AND on the field how can you not take hollywood brown well over rice and woods
If you decide to wait till 6 or 7th round for a QB. Would you go Richardson or Love or maybe someone else? Thoughts 💭 everyone?
Richardson
So y'allsaying worthy puts up more than Hollywood this year?😮
Nuance is the underdog specialty
Greg Dortch of football content. Electric
Don’t sleep on how good Bo nix will be paired with Sean Payton.
I know I listened to the whole pod, but did I miss you guys talk about the kids from the Rams? Cuz Puka was injury prone in college, and Kupp is injury prone now. So, I know you guys had to have covered the Cowboys Rams game. That boi J. Whittington was cooking the Cowboys.
Whittington was cooking! Just think he's the WR4 for now, so not quite fantasy relevant yet. He's definitely on our radar though. - Winks
Telling watchers that subscribing, leaving like and reviews will make more people see the content isn't the best sales pitch for doing so. Not a high EV move to get our opponents who are unaware of how great of a resource you guys are to stumble upon you because we made it easier for them to find you because we did so.
I never told a soul about BDGE for like four years for exactly this reason. Then they started doing this lame trivia stuff
Gatekeeping will only lead to them not growing. And not having enough audience means a channel will die out
@@DerultimateKeksI promise you their community is big enough for them to be making plenty of money lol so let’s chill on them dying out. They’re not some small family ran diner
Chances are your leaguemates already watch most of the channels too lol. Unless you are talking about work, family leagues. Or as one TH-camr calls it, your grandma league haha.
Last year in my friend's league he had auto play on TH-cam playing on FF and at least 3 different channels videos I also watch also came up before our draft started.
I have the 4th pick and i need to figure out which receiver to draft. Amon, chase, or Jefferson. I can make a solid argument for all 3.
Whichever one is left at pick 4.
Chase brown Jefferson easy
Jefferson is QB proof
@@cameronzwicke5761I think theyre all gonna be available at the 4 spot. At least usually in mock drafts. I'm hoping Hill falls to me but I won't plan on it.
@@DerultimateKeks I use to think that about Devanta Adams lol.
What do you mean by pretty Ricky and the titanic as in Steelers
I wouldn’t worry about the Rice trial. Look at how long the Henry Ruggs trial took before he was sentenced.
DID I HEAR SUPERFLEX SHOW?!?!?!
Why are you so obsessed with Samuel? Makes no sense.
They didn’t sign Diggs to be wr2 or 3. Think There’s no way that happens. So I’m grabbing
The Vikings should be called "JJ & Sons"
tldr: avoid teams where there is not a clear wr1
The court in Texas is not backed up 😂
Do I trade Dalton Kincaid for Pitts and worthy 12 man PPR one flex readraft my current flex is Mclaruin
No
That thumbnail confused the hell out of me for some reason
23:46 stroud should be higher than Richardson and love should be above them both. I love stroud and he helped me win my league last year after Rodger’s went down. Some of these qb rankings seem absurd this year. Josh Allen also shouldn’t be that high
My fav 2 guys!
If I could I’d subscribe twice
Oh, the good ol eye test. If Caleb could throw dimes coming out of college, Richardson should be doing the same. Im taking note, never to early
Friendly reminder that Quentin Johnston is not a good receiver. I told people not to draft him or pick him all last year and his situation appears to be even worse this year with zero competition.
Steve Smith Sr nailed his analysis on him.
we said the same
Bills wr room is nothing to react to… it’s logical to give coleman the most reps to evaluate him and develop him bc he is a raw rookie. Curtis knows the coaching staff here. he’s a veteran.
I'll stand with Kennan Allen over Odunze.
Rashee Rice has court on December 3rd. I believe for sentencing.
39:45 I lol's
Man, y’all are telling us that they Keyon Coleman couldn’t even get open in the professional league. Now he’s gonna be the number one receiver on the bills that hurts my Underdog draft.😅
I guess that’s the nature of the beast
Let’s go Tank Dell!
Hes a Big Dufus. Uncoordinated.
How do you watch 16 games over the weekend? Are you watching the condensed versions?
watching 1s, 2s and rookies and camp battles
I don’t need my league mates seeing your content. Sorry guys.
I'm a Packers fan. Justin Fields was putrid. DJ Moore was still able to put up a fantasy season with him and got paid. Don't overthink
I live in Kansas so nobody is letting him slip. Bunch of Chief fans.
Hi guys. Love the content... There is something I don't understand and I'd love your opinion. Both Bo Nix and JT Daniels have WRs that were their go to WRs last yr in college. (McCaffrey and Franklin) Why are those wrs not on 1st teams rotation ? It just seems stupid to over look that... Or does that situation happen often and I've missed it.
McCaffrey did NOT play at LSU lmao
Mike Gesicki? More like Mike Gesucki
Way too low on Keon Coleman. How is this team not going to produce a top 25wr. Stop over thinking it.
Non bot algorithm here
Hayden don't be so loud about Stroud. Let people take Richardson while we grab him 2 rounds later 😉😂
Subscribe people. Don’t be lazy. Plus you can turn on the notifications bell and be alerted to every video. No brainer 😅🤯😅🤯😅
Having JJettas at 6 or 7 has been dumb all off season. Their offense will be very good one way or another.
You guys are clearly getting your data & analytics sniped by other ''FF Guru's'' & Now Billy B. Is about to start popping up as the 3rd boy genius on the show!.... I want you guys to get your flowers but I don't want any of my FF groups to find you guys, Can't give up the secret! 😂
I don't think Pete Carroll is a good coach , he tried to throw the ball into the end zone from the 1 yd line on 1st down in the Super Bowl and through an interception when they had Derek Henry on their team.. 😂
Kirk that low?
First time seeing this vid and seeing yall take on j dotson and well yall hit it....he gone lol
Moore Richard Harris Melissa Davis Patricia
Trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit 😂
Megan growing up and out😉
Really trying to gatekeep this podcast from the guys
i know its selfish but still kinda glad theses likes are this low, imagine showing up to a home league draft without these constant- live updating- golden nuggets
NOOOOOOOO
You literally can’t take anything away from preseason
Noob take
Ask Flock about Hollywood, Derrick Henry, and why he thinks Sam laporta can out score everyone in that adp range so you can get a good laugh
That guy is such a 🤡
Brown is soft
X Worthy will be trash this year...
Why not mention Justin Fields 5-6 passing? I thought he looked alright
I have a lot of last-round Fields. He'll start at least 8 games in a decent offense with rushing upside
First non-bot! 😋
Fantasy football analyst are a touchy bunch. Me thinks you may be taking your hobby a little too seriously.
We don’t care about Bo nix