Agreed. Absolutely incredible that hype and untapped unproven potential in year three has propelled this guy to top ten wr in the nfl . Yall are all nuts or high or dumb
I'd be curious to see a multi-year study on how hype affects value. Seems like everyone can imagine this smash season for London and they've pushed his ADP up to his ceiling like it's an inevitability rather than a strong possibility.
More Matt Harmon on here please!!! Also John Daigle meshes really well with you guys. Hope he’s back on for the weekly reactions again this season. Been watching since you guys first started and I’m thrilled you’re finally getting the numbers you deserve.
Love me some Rasheed. So fun to watch. U a Saints fan by any chance?...wondering how my guy A.T. Perry is looking? He was one of my favorite sleepers last year, along with Dontavion Wicks.
Wicked fricken episode! genuinely sad it was only 90 minutes long. You guys obviously know ball but you always present the info in way that is nuanced, digestible, and entertaining. Hopefully we get spoiled with more collabs with Matt in the future.❤
For Pickens - If they are going to run him more from the slot this year, don't you think they are plenty of opportunities to run deeper routes from the slot against a potentially weaker corner?
I'm missing something on the Chris Olave evaluation. If he's not a big deep threat, "isn't gonna break a lot of tackles, isn't super elusive", doesn't create a lot of yac, just where is he so good? Sounds more like you're describing an average receiver.
Garret Wilson and Pickens should be seen as top 10 WR's going 2-3 rounds late. Best X studs with least target competition and each with major QB upgrades. London is third, only due to Cousin's more recent injury, new system, and atl coaching history.
I agree on Wilson and Pickens. Imo London is grossly overrated and not that good actually. Gadget player, just the big n tall version vs the short king types. Cousins will help but I don't see a massive leap in production. GL.
Curtis Samuel at ADP is hands down the best WR value this year. I’m also all over Brian Thomas Jr. Also, Dell is the best WR on the Texans. Fight me. When it comes to Pickens I really like him. But talk to Drake London or Kyle Pitts about being a pass option in an Arthur Smith led offensive scheme. I think Najee Harris could be a sneaky pick up. I’m not drafting him but I think T Hill could have a top 5 TE performance year. Sam Darnold finishes 2024 with as a top 10 qb.
Using Mike Wallace as a comp for Godwin doesn't apply. 1. 2 totally different players and skill sets. 2. Wallace " fell off" at age 26,27,28 and 29. He came back with a 1000 yrd season at 30.
@cameronzwicke5761 Who do you have as the #2? I think Dotson is best suited for the slot but I also think he's their 2nd best wr and should be productive in the red zone also.
Hey guys thanks for all your hard work, love the channel, subbed early last year. Josh can you please make UD create soccer best ball. Euros are about to start and there really isn’t anything out there for soccer. I think UD is missing out on a huge market
I just think Curtis Samuel's going to have a good year. He's back with an OC who likes him and he's a very good player. That said, reports from OTA's have said Chase Claypool has looked very good (the best WR). Could he finally produce big numbers?
I was saying all of this about Watson and everybody was taking him as a wr2, Watson showed he can’t win at the catch point against guys half his size for 2 years now the rest is irrrelevant, he’s best fit for “Robert woods” role and as the 3rd or 4th receiver and all that is ignoring his injuries
Pickens hasn't developed because of Pickett abysmal QBR and Deontae Johnson's 240 targets during Picken's first two years as a pro. We see this with Steelers time after time. Santonio Holmes/ Ward/ Wallace/ M.Bryant / Antonio Brown/ Juju / diontae johnson etc. Most of these WR were year 2/3 breakouts.
Hmm I think I’m one of the only drafters out there that thinks Shakir will work off of his results last year and have a pretty good year. Fun part is I guess we will see 😊
Comparing Pickens to Mike Williams is borderline offensive to George Pickens. Like Mike Williams only put up 2 1000 yards seasons in his Career to this point (him being 29) and he played with Phillip Rivers and Justin Herbert. Like ya’ll watched Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph right?
MW is always hurt. I'm not saying he's nice but judging if a guy hit 1000 yards or not when he misses multiple games every year is lazy analysis. He's very talented. When totally healthy he's played really well. Not elite but really well. Just always misses time.
@@blahblah14722 okay but production matters. Plenty of players in the league are super talented but availability is an ability. Whether diet, techniques, or just dumb unfortunate luck Mike Williams IS always injured. But it extends way past that. George Pickens if you watch his first year into his second the improvements are kinda shocking. He was a much more complete receiver in his second season, and still has the potential to get even better. Genuinely we haven’t see the ceiling of GP yet that’s why he’s an exciting asset. We know who Mike Williams is, just watching both they honestly look nothing alike up until the catch point where both become beasts. But before the balls in the air Pickens is far more fluid and natural in the way he moves and much twitchier. I like Mike Williams but I don’t even think he could reach a true alpha WR1 status like Pickens definitely has the potential to do.
Arthur smith was dealing with very very incompetent QBs in Atlanta. The Steelers will look far more like the Titans days of Arthur Smith than his tenure in Atlanta. Guaranteed 💯
Brother, if you can get a 3rd or 4th for him you should take that. I’m pretty sure he’s cooked and at least banished depth chart-wise if he isn’t cooked. It was a great streak 2 years ago but I just don’t see him coming back.
Watson will be a top 10 receiver this year if he can stay healthy. Y'all are making it easy to get him late, thank you, and I will be giving y'all a hard time about it next year.
@@cameronzwicke5761 Sincerely, Devante Adams!! Was that also an example of "spreading the ball around" in the LaFluer offense, LOL? Harmon is full of sheep dip about Christian Watson's ceiling. .
@@FantasySportsZen No! I'm comparing the dumbass statement that the Packers offense always spreads the ball around with the fact that when Adams was in the LaFleur offense, they sure as hell didn''t spread it around.
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Hour and a half underdog vid ? I’m back with some dinner
"There's going to be games this year where the Lions are blowing teams out by 30" is not a sentence I ever expected to hear.
It’s nice to hear
That's a D-mont statement
Facts.
Heck yeah we are still watching Harmon. We wanna soak up all this knowledge. This a fantasy trifecta of talent tonight. 🏉🔥
This is the one we’ve been waiting on 🤤
Thank fuck for speaking the truth about overhyping prospects/players generally. Makes your word worth more when you actually say someone is elite.
I'm snorting this intel, like it was 1980 COCAINE.... Lets Fuckin Go!!!! I maxed the new 3 mans super flex... My tourney.. Telesco's SuperFlex...
Damn these bros know ball 🤝💯
Sam Howell acts like he moves around the pocket with his eyes closed
Awesome show! Matt said “potentially, possibly true”😂
You guys need the old music from last years outro Imo.
Drake **'NO YAC'** London at the 1-2 Turn ?? 🥴 Are ya High ??
Do you even watch Ball Bro ?
Agreed. Absolutely incredible that hype and untapped unproven potential in year three has propelled this guy to top ten wr in the nfl . Yall are all nuts or high or dumb
This will be the guy telling everyone he told you London was gonna breakout.
I'd be curious to see a multi-year study on how hype affects value. Seems like everyone can imagine this smash season for London and they've pushed his ADP up to his ceiling like it's an inevitability rather than a strong possibility.
More Matt Harmon on here please!!! Also John Daigle meshes really well with you guys. Hope he’s back on for the weekly reactions again this season. Been watching since you guys first started and I’m thrilled you’re finally getting the numbers you deserve.
Love the feedback. Thanks
Agree on Daigle. Super solid.
matt harmon the goat, but yall the goat too. 3 headed goat
Have a take. Except for a novel catchy name not much original info. Not a fan.
I still believe in Dotson....think this coaching change is going to finally bring out the potential. Wishful thinking....maybe.
I have a Need for Shaheed
The olave pulled hamstring will feed families
The guy is so freaking good.
Love me some Rasheed. So fun to watch. U a Saints fan by any chance?...wondering how my guy A.T. Perry is looking? He was one of my favorite sleepers last year, along with Dontavion Wicks.
Always looking for shaheed on best balls lineups
Wicked fricken episode! genuinely sad it was only 90 minutes long. You guys obviously know ball but you always present the info in way that is nuanced, digestible, and entertaining. Hopefully we get spoiled with more collabs with Matt in the future.❤
For Pickens - If they are going to run him more from the slot this year, don't you think they are plenty of opportunities to run deeper routes from the slot against a potentially weaker corner?
Glory to God
We deserve a healthy season of Rodgers to watch Wilson shine
Pickens about to disappoint everyone.
you can leave the room now
You’re the disappointment
I'll roll the dice
A team that wants to run the ball,qb retreads,an oc that doesn't know how to use his stars???what can go wrong??
Like he hasnt been ? 😂
I have a question for you? Is Russell Wilson going to be able to unlock Picken’s potential? After watching Russell that past two years, I think not.
Russ has always thrown a pretty deep ball and Pickens is a monster, so if Russ still has his arm and can chuck it I'd be optimistic.
About wicks… Adam thielen was a punt gunner and put up 1000 yards and 10tds
ROME WASN’T BUILT IN A DAY.
LETS GO DOUBS.
Jayden Reed❤
matt harmon info gets me going. its provactive
What happened to punctuation?
Aarron Rodgers sucks this year, Wilson has another mediocre season...next year 2025 is Garrett Wilson's year this time for real😂😂
Right
I'm missing something on the Chris Olave evaluation. If he's not a big deep threat, "isn't gonna break a lot of tackles, isn't super elusive", doesn't create a lot of yac, just where is he so good? Sounds more like you're describing an average receiver.
Preach!!
Volume.
He gets open I guess
He is an average starter, a solid #2 wr.
Volume efficiency and getting better targets though different playcalling which creates easier routes and targets for him.
Nico Collins, all I gotta say. Jamo the next Nico Collins 🤌🏽
Son get in here Matt Harmon is on
Garret Wilson and Pickens should be seen as top 10 WR's going 2-3 rounds late. Best X studs with least target competition and each with major QB upgrades. London is third, only due to Cousin's more recent injury, new system, and atl coaching history.
I agree on Wilson and Pickens. Imo London is grossly overrated and not that good actually. Gadget player, just the big n tall version vs the short king types. Cousins will help but I don't see a massive leap in production. GL.
No one has better hands than Pickens…
Just saying
As much as I'm not a fan, DeAndre Hopkins has better hands.
The Saints/Carr issue have been Taysom Hill goal line snaps.
How about them having 11-12 different targets in the Red zone 🤣🤣
Curtis Samuel at ADP is hands down the best WR value this year. I’m also all over Brian Thomas Jr.
Also, Dell is the best WR on the Texans. Fight me.
When it comes to Pickens I really like him. But talk to Drake London or Kyle Pitts about being a pass option in an Arthur Smith led offensive scheme.
I think Najee Harris could be a sneaky pick up.
I’m not drafting him but I think T Hill could have a top 5 TE performance year.
Sam Darnold finishes 2024 with as a top 10 qb.
Using Mike Wallace as a comp for Godwin doesn't apply.
1. 2 totally different players and skill sets.
2. Wallace " fell off" at age 26,27,28 and 29. He came back with a 1000 yrd season at 30.
3 white guys talking smack about eric bieniemy a couch that didnt have the qb talent the new crappy OC kingsbury has. 😂😂.
dotson is going to push 1000 yards this year
Pass me the copuim after you are done. (im gonna hold him in my bench the whole season)
Jahan Dotson is gonna have a huge season I wish I owned more of him in my fantasy leagues
Man he let me down last year, he had such a decent first year
He's been the wr 3 in Washington and it doesn't look like that will change this season. He won't get enough targets to have a breakout season.
@@cameronzwicke5761 so the 1 and 2 wr can't get hurt and he can't step up? Classic case of people not accounting for season volatility.
@cameronzwicke5761 Who do you have as the #2? I think Dotson is best suited for the slot but I also think he's their 2nd best wr and should be productive in the red zone also.
Hey guys thanks for all your hard work, love the channel, subbed early last year. Josh can you please make UD create soccer best ball. Euros are about to start and there really isn’t anything out there for soccer. I think UD is missing out on a huge market
I wish we could! We run in-house tournaments, and they are a blast. One day, hopefully.
so many of these WRs have all these data points look fantastic but do not produce actual fantasy points per week.
Tank dell wr1 in Houston lmao go ahead draft Nico because when tanks on the field he is the best player
Matt Harmon in thumbnail, I click.
it's the right decision
I just think Curtis Samuel's going to have a good year. He's back with an OC who likes him and he's a very good player. That said, reports from OTA's have said Chase Claypool has looked very good (the best WR). Could he finally produce big numbers?
Let’s see him make the team first before we talk about big numbers
Hope so he’s my last pick as of late
And a 50 year old Roethlisberger could still beat the brownies.
Wilson is overrated, he's has ball security issues. He is not explosive enough to be elite.
WanDale gonna outperform half the dudes you went over in more detail.
Dotson about to be the most exciting WR5
All the first 4 players are on my Dynasty team: Wilson, London, Olave, Pickens. Also have JSN, and ARSB.
Wow. Trade London and/or JSN and get a super stud RB or QB.
Hayden nailed it with Curtis Samuel. He's a smash
nice sturghill simpson record on the wall 👏
"We all know what that is(about G. Wilson)." Meanwhile Pittman is schooling everybody with 3rd tier QBs.
Meanwhile Wilson has high school QBs throwing him the ball
Bengals vs commanders Superbowl
These jagoffs aren't "raking" enough so they're trying to bump baseball drafts from $7 to $10. They were $5 last season.
If you are referring to football drafts, we are offering more tournaments. Like the one that is $5 tomorrow
Relax
Been waiting for this
I was saying all of this about Watson and everybody was taking him as a wr2, Watson showed he can’t win at the catch point against guys half his size for 2 years now the rest is irrrelevant, he’s best fit for “Robert woods” role and as the 3rd or 4th receiver and all that is ignoring his injuries
I disagree, he’s makes the Packers offensive go. He’s takes the top of the defensive.
I miss the old outro music :(
wish we could keep it, but unfortunately YT started cpyrighting it
@@JoshandHayden understandable. great video as always!
George Pickens outproduced everyone in this video last year… yet he gets less respect than drake london🤦♂️
3 huge games and the rest were duds
Pickens hasn't developed because of Pickett abysmal QBR and Deontae Johnson's 240 targets during Picken's first two years as a pro. We see this with Steelers time after time. Santonio Holmes/ Ward/ Wallace/ M.Bryant / Antonio Brown/ Juju / diontae johnson etc. Most of these WR were year 2/3 breakouts.
The only problem with Olave is Derek “Crash” Carr stinks🤮
I will listen to a guy that has a Sturgill Simpson album hanging up in their background 👍
I’ll take Cody Jinx but Strugill is pretty good
This is the best off-season video yet boys.
30 seconds of commercials?! What kind of setting is this?
Gotta raise those funds to hire Belichick. 😂😂😂
Will MHJ struggle because after 6-7 years Kyler Murray will have to learn a new offense? Remember the “Studying clause “ in his big contract?
Hayden is reading, and thinking for yourself, for that matter, even a part of the new normal in this world? Good stuff here, as always. Peace
Dan campbell has said he IS their #2 and thays his expectations. MCDC doesnt fluff up players..
Get Treylon to the birds?
is josh in a speakeasy?
Gin Bar Brah
Jameson Williams ceiling is Devonta Smith if Amon-R/LaPorta stay healthy as fixtures season long.
I'd draft him hoping he get hots early in first five games then sell high.
Cause he will be boom bust player in year two (of NFL activity). I say all of this, loving his potential and skill, however.
rank this players: Pickens-Olave-London-D. Smith....
I like Shaheed over olive oil
Hmm I think I’m one of the only drafters out there that thinks Shakir will work off of his results last year and have a pretty good year. Fun part is I guess we will see 😊
talkin' ball
Jordan Addison underrated
Jamo is going to be a star
goat guest, great episode
Malik Nabers , 2025 early 3rd
Or
Drake london, 2025 late 1st
Curtis Samuel was the WR2 in Washington last year so if you look at Dotsons numbers they are typical for a WR3 in a bad offense
Olave just seems so uninspiring...he was going to be the man last year and he was useless
Shoutout Matt for making me realize I wasn't subscribed. What am I doing! Still been watching and liking though :)
Is Pickens a guy who would be THE BEST #2WR. Kinda like Higgins?
Loaded up on Jahan in dynasty and redraft last year. OUCH.
“I think that probably is potentially true.”
Please put the bye weeks on the board!! In the draft Maxhine!! Please
Comparing Pickens to Mike Williams is borderline offensive to George Pickens.
Like Mike Williams only put up 2 1000 yards seasons in his Career to this point (him being 29) and he played with Phillip Rivers and Justin Herbert. Like ya’ll watched Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph right?
Facts. If Pickens had Herbert he’d go ballistic
You're right. Mike Williams is way more talented then pickens
MW is always hurt. I'm not saying he's nice but judging if a guy hit 1000 yards or not when he misses multiple games every year is lazy analysis. He's very talented. When totally healthy he's played really well. Not elite but really well. Just always misses time.
@@blahblah14722 okay but production matters. Plenty of players in the league are super talented but availability is an ability. Whether diet, techniques, or just dumb unfortunate luck Mike Williams IS always injured. But it extends way past that. George Pickens if you watch his first year into his second the improvements are kinda shocking. He was a much more complete receiver in his second season, and still has the potential to get even better. Genuinely we haven’t see the ceiling of GP yet that’s why he’s an exciting asset. We know who Mike Williams is, just watching both they honestly look nothing alike up until the catch point where both become beasts. But before the balls in the air Pickens is far more fluid and natural in the way he moves and much twitchier. I like Mike Williams but I don’t even think he could reach a true alpha WR1 status like Pickens definitely has the potential to do.
@@blahblah14722facts and he had k allen on other side demanding beast targets.
47:17 lmfao I thought your guys were talking about Bateman!
Matt "lipper" Harmon, awesome content fellas, thanks
🔥🔥🔥
Wilson top 5 for sure this year. Book it.
Arthur smith was dealing with very very incompetent QBs in Atlanta. The Steelers will look far more like the Titans days of Arthur Smith than his tenure in Atlanta. Guaranteed 💯
Turned Dotson into Keon Coleman
JOSH KELLEY SHOULD BE CONVERTED TO WR
2 of my favorite pods together good stuff guys
What do I do with Toney? Do I just drop him into waivers? Do I try to get a 3rd or 4th for him? Put him on the block and nothing. 14 man SF.
Brother, if you can get a 3rd or 4th for him you should take that. I’m pretty sure he’s cooked and at least banished depth chart-wise if he isn’t cooked. It was a great streak 2 years ago but I just don’t see him coming back.
@@devynglenn7697 man I’m getting closer and closer to dropping him into waivers.
Wilson is no Jefferson
Like #221
Watson will be a top 10 receiver this year if he can stay healthy. Y'all are making it easy to get him late, thank you, and I will be giving y'all a hard time about it next year.
He won't though, because the Packers offense spreads the ball to much for any individual receiver to get the majority of catches or scores.
@@cameronzwicke5761 Sincerely, Devante Adams!! Was that also an example of "spreading the ball around" in the LaFluer offense, LOL? Harmon is full of sheep dip about Christian Watson's ceiling. .
@@daverice7855C'mon man. You did not just compare Devante Adams and Christian friggin Watson. ????!!!! 😂😂😂
@@FantasySportsZen No! I'm comparing the dumbass statement that the Packers offense always spreads the ball around with the fact that when Adams was in the LaFleur offense, they sure as hell didn''t spread it around.
If you want to invest in the Packers WRs Jayden Reed is the one you want.
Watson too cheap
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Man, I hope week 17 means well in the superflex tourneys,,, Great Show Boys... Thank you...
I bet George Pickens ends up being a top 10 receiver this year
Romeo Doubs is so underrated
Very underrated
Meh, not really. He's rated average to below average lol. But keep thinking that and letting better players fall in drafts please thank you