WTF REALLY Happened to TOMBSTONE (1993)?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2022
- For many of us, 1993’s Tombstone remains the definitive Wyatt Earp movie. The film had a tortured production history, which included the sacking of the original director Kevin Jarre and Kurt Russell’s controversial claim that it was him, not credited director George Pan Cosmatos who called the shots on the finished film. Still, we already dug into that in another episode of WTF. In this one, we’re going to look at the history that inspired the film, namely Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, the Clanton’s and the iconic gunfight at the O.K Corral. Screenwriter Kevin Jarre took some huge liberties with this one in order to craft an action-packed western that could stand shoulder to shoulder with the big-budget action flicks of the time, but what in the movie was his invention, and what was real? We dig into it in this special episode of WTF Really Happened to this Movie!
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Val should have won an Oscar for his performance. His finest work imho
Definitely one of his best performances.
Val should have won an Oscar, an Ernie and Bert, and a Big Bird.
I'm your huckleberry
@@hammiranda I have a huckleberry? O.O
Yeah for sure
Saw TOMBSTONE the weekend it opened with my buddies. The entire theater was on its feet by the violent climax, cheering and applauding! A brilliant Western then--and still a masterpiece now...
Where was that? It had a theater re-showing?
@@ANDRE1mang This was back in 1993. When people actually enjoyed being at the movies! 📽️🎞️🎟️🍿🥤🍫
Even though it probably never happened, that Latin-off between Doc Holiday and Johnny Ringo was peak cool.
Now that I think about it, Tombstone was almost kinda like a proto-Expendables. Some of the biggest action and western stars thrown together in one awesome movie. And all of them hold their own in every scene.
I read somewhere that either Doc or Ringo would not have known Latin.
Evidently Mr. Ringo here's an educated man, now I really hate him
@@robdon3472 I saw this the other day, a translation of the Latin in that scene.
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I also love how even when Ringo draws on him, Doc doesn't even flinch. Cool as a cucumber the whole time.
Never associate the masterpiece Tombstone with the trash nonsense the Expendables.
@@jasonpowell4975 Latin was still taught back then, along with animal husbandry, farming, etc.. Yeah, they actually got educations back then, as opposed to today.
I was a kid who hated westerns when this came out, but when I finally watched it a few years later I was shocked by how good it was. Still not my favorite genre, but man is this still one of my favorite western movies. Val Kilmer is truly great in this role.
The remake of "3:10 to Yuma" was the movie that made me appreciate westerns. I was same as at a young kid I didn't understand the appeal, but now I totally get them and have gone back to all these great Westerns that I originally missed when I was young and dumb.
Give spaghetti westerns a try.
I hate westerns. Except for Tombstone.
... and Unforgiven.
... and True Grit.
... and Appaloosa.
... and 310 to Yuma.
... and Stagecoach.
... and The Good the Bad and the Ugly.
... and the Searchers.
... and Riders of the Purple Sage.
Okay, I actually like a lot of westerns.
Same. Never a westerns fan, but this was an exception
May one suggest Silverado from 1985. Scott Glenn, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, Kevin Kline, and so many more.
This movie got me into Westerns and American History in the West so I am perfectly OK on not everything being accurate. The movie is a classic.
If you like westerns that are historical but not factual. You have to check out Louis L'Amour, particularly the Sacket Saga. Good stuff ^_^
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@@EricEstesEleutherian Tom Selleck and Sam Elliott as cowboy brothers doesn't get any better than that.
I think the liberties taken with historical accuracy are justifiable. Otherwise, they would have had to make a trilogy (maybe even more) or a teevee mini-series.
I grew up in Valdosta (pronouced like "DOS" in MS-DOS not "Doe's") and my grandfather grew up in Doc's house. We have pictures. It's cool to have a connection to Doc.
I was surprised to hear that some pronounce it Valdoesta. Likely because I used to live 30mins north of Valdosta. That's really cool he got to grow up there. Must've been a trip!
That is very cool
Val Kilmer is always going to be peak cool, what a great cast this movie has
Val was mesmerizing. Should have gotten an Oscar here
Best Batman casting ever ;)
Agreed
"Ahh beg tuh diffuh"
It's a sad shame what happened to him later in life and his current medical condition. If you haven't watched the biographical documentary about Val's life do yourself a favor and check it out. It's very poignant but it's a very good watch.
Everybody likes Tombstone and loves Val as Doc . This movie has magic in it. As my dad used to say: it takes a whole helleva lot of blood, sweat and tears to have all this luck.
The biggest travesty is Kilmer not winning the Oscar for his portral of Holiday.
Everyone loves it other than Kevin Costner and everyone involved in the film "Wyatt Earpe". But I accept your general point.
Kurt Russell at the peak of his powers 😂
But Val Kilmer still upstaged him.
While it had historical inaccuracies, Tombstone was a great movie.
It messes with the timeline for the sake of making a movie, but other than that it stays pretty close to accurate. It takes one or two theories as fact, but that tends to happen in historical tales where we don't have all the facts.
You guys didn't talk about Wyatt Earp's funeral how Tom mix supposedly went there and apparently he wept. This is the kind of stuff I wanted to know if you guys looked into.
That’s actually true
That is true about Mix. One of the problems with Earp is that he embellished his life story so much that it became a challenge at times to tell what was real and what was not. For example he boasted for a long time that it was he that killed Johnny Ringo. Course now it's common knowledge that Ringo probably killed himself rather than either Wyatt or Doc.
@@jamesrawlins735 Well, apparently there were no missing rounds in Ringo's guns... so the obvious question is "how did he reload his gun with another round when he was already dead?". Could have just been someone with a bone to pick and simply shot Ringo when he wasn't expecting it. But you're right I think. It likely wasn't Earp or Doc.
I can't verify whether he was at Earp's funeral or not, but John Wayne met Earp, and styled his walk and his speech after the old lawman.
@@LordBLB I looked into this a while back, and there were five rounds in Ringo's revolver -- which would be normal if it were a normal situation, or a normal person (neither of which is really true in this case). Of course, the best evidence for it being suicide is an interview with one of the coroner's jurors which was published something like thirty years after the event, which claimed that it was obvious that the bullet had passed from under Ringo's jaw and out his temple, with the bullet track still visible in the tree above his body.
For those interested in further information on Wyatt Earp I strongly recommend the book Inventing Wyatt Earp. It is extremely well researched and does much to debunk both the haigrophies of Earp (Like I married Wyatt Earp and Frontier Marshall) and those accounts with an ax to grind against him like The Earp Brothers of Tombstone (written by Virgil's wife Allie who despised Wyatt) and Helldorado (written by Billy Breckenridge, a follower of Sheriff Behan).
For my own taste this is one of my top five favorite movies of all time and my favorite Western by far. Stupid red sashes aside it does an exceptional job of getting the costuming of the era accurate as well as the dialect that was common at the time. The casting and acting are exceptional and it is absolutely criminal that Kilmer was robbed of an Best Supporting Oscar for his role as Doc Holliday.
Allen Barra does an excellent job with "Inventing Wyatt Earp". I would also recommend "And Die in the West" by Paula Mitchell Marks.
The first time I heard of this feud was from the old Star Trek, where Kirk and others were the peaceful Clantons, forced to fight the Warps. 🖖
One of my favorite Star Trek episodes🖖🏻.
Never was much for westerns, but tombstone is amazing and I've always loved it. The whole cast brought their A-game
Val Kilmer and Michael Biehn as Doc Halliday and Johnny Ringo respectively lit this film up!
😎🔥
Best cast in a movie, walking legends even among the villains, all excellent actors at their peak performance.
Of course everybody's favorite in this movie is Doc Holliday. I do like the part when Wyatt Earp told them that I see a red sash I killed a man that wears it. So run and tell all the rest of them the run. Because hell's coming with me you see hell's coming with me.
Of course Doc is the most quoted, but Wyatt has some fantastic lines, particularly with Billy Bob Thorton. "You gonna do something or just stand there and bleed" is one of my favs.
"If I see a red sash I'll kill the man that wears it, so tell all the rest of them to run because I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me."
There, fixed it and made it more coherent.
Its hard to think of another western with such iconic great lines true classic
and fun to rewatch.
@@KageNoTora74 yeah but everybody knows what I was getting at.
Good recap of the actual history of Wyatt Earp and the background to Tombstone. It really doesn't matter. The movie is a great retelling of the Earp legend and Val Kilmer is dazzling as Doc Holliday. Kevin Costner's "Wyatt Earp" might come closer to history, but is dull as dishwater.
Tombstone is more entertaining, but I did very much enjoy Dennis Quaid as Doc Holliday.
Tombstone is my favorite movie of all time. I just rewatched it a couple of nights ago, and I never fail to enjoy watching this classic...
I am glad you said something about James and Warren. A lot of people don't know about them.
I love how "Wyatt Earp" was released like it was the most amazing western and accurate depiction of him ever, and it was hot garbage in almost everything. Then we have Tombstone, which had solid action, acceptable amounts of characters fused together, and an amazing cast. This movie will always remain a favorite of mine. Val Kilmer OWNED his scenes.
(edit) regarding Johnny Ringo's death, it really was a mystery. On one hand, I believe Doc stated that he indeed killed Ringo on more than one occassion. But he was supposed to be in a court in Colorado at the time. However, it's possible that someone represented him in court, which would have his name still on it as "attending". Then there's Wyatt who didn't keep his story straight as you point out.
My theory, is likely that Wyatt found him and gunned him down. No self defense, just straight up killed him. This would put him in hot water if Ringo had surrendered or was caught offguard. So... maybe Doc decided "hell I'm dying and considered a murderer anyway, I'll take the fall". Either way, it's one of the most interesting unresolved mysteries of the end days of the Wild Wild West
Wyatt earp is good,but tombstone is a masterpiece.I think wyatt earp has the second best doc holliday!
Wyatt Earp is far from hot garbage but it is definitely the weaker of the two movies. It's too ambitious by far in trying to cover so much of Wyatt's life instead of sticking with the Tombstone era only. Honestly if there were ever a historical figure that needed the "Deadwood Treatment" it would be Wyatt Earp and Tm Olyphant would have been a good choice for the role. He is getting too old to play it now unfortunately. That's one of the problems with Wyatt Earp the movie to tell the truth. Dennis Quaid played the role well but even though he is only a few years older than Val Kilmer he looked far older than he was in the role of Doc Holiday. And while Kurt Russell was even older than Kevin Costner, Kurt at least LOOKED the part of Wyatt. In fact the casting for Tombstone was just better from top to bottom. Sam Elliot, Powers Booth, Stephen Lang and Bill Paxton ALL turned in memorable quotable performances. If we didn't have Tombstone Wyatt Earp would have been a decent if not exactly memorable addition to the lexicon of Earp movies and TV shows out there. But we DO have Tombstone and it suffers by comparison.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 yeah the casting was perfect.tombstone and wild bunch!
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 there was a tv show or tv movie that I watched YEARS ago as a kid, it was about Wyatt Earp but I have no idea what it was called. It mentioned Wyatt looking for one of his brother's kids who was running with a bad gang. It might have been Return to Tombstone but Im not sure.
Also, maybe "Hot garbage" was an unfair description. It had good moments. But it very much tried to embellish Wyatt Earp as an almost legendary character. Tombstone shows him more "flawed" and humane (though it does portray him arguably better than he was).
@@luciomanson I agree! The 1st time I watched it I was unsure of Dennis Quaid portrayal of Doc but in fairness I was comparing it to Val Kilmer's version of Doc which was masterful. After watching it again I really enjoyed Quaid's performance. Definitely #2 to Kilmer's #1 portrayal
Thanks for the video! I had heard that this movie was closest to the truth of all the "Wyatt Earp Sagas" But as the newspaper editor told Jimmy Stewart in the movie "Man who shot Liberty Valance" - "This is the west sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
I also, heard that “Big Nose” Kate, stayed by Doc Holiday’s side while he was in the hospital until his death. If I was misinformed, please advise. Most appreciated your video, sir.
Historians are uncertain how much contact Kate and Doc had after Tombstone. There is no evidence of her being with Doc in Colorado.
This is my favorite western. All-star cast and Val Kilmer in my favorite role of his. Tombstone will always have a place in my heart.
The actors in this film vanished into their roles so hard that I didn't even realize who was whom until much later in life. A legitimate masterpiece.
The "NO!" scene gets a lot of flak for some reason, but that was always one of my favorites in the film. It's just so awesome.
This was really well done, excellent work!
i just love how much of the movie is shot like 60s spaghetti westerns. so many super close up shots and everyone is so so sweaty. only things missing was an Ennio Morricone score and over dubbing.
Outstanding content as always from the JoBlo team!
This movie is incredibly good. One of the best Westerns of all time IMO. They just don't make em like this anymore.
My favorite wyatt earp movie. I love that they show him on both sides of the law making him both peace officer and outlaw.
0:14 I have long wondered if Wyatt disembarking from train car "No. 5150" was deliberate. "51/50" is a slang term referring to the California law code for individuals who present a danger to themselves or others.
Tombstone is one of my favorite movies.A great cast and a great movie!
One of my favorite films, thanks for your time on this 👍🏻
I've lost track of how many times I've watched the movie Tombstone absolutely one of the best movies ever
My father was named Wyatt because his mother loved the 50s TV show and just last year I went to Dodge City, Kansas to pay my respects to the iconic Lawman whose name I also inherited. When Tombstone came out I don't think Earp was well known to people born between my Father's birth in the late 50s and mine in the early 80's because I heard tons say "so that's where your name came from." Since then there has been a strong resurgence in the name Wyatt. I gotta say, it's pretty cool to have Kurt Russell portray your namesake.
Tombstone is my favorite western of all time. If anyone has a chance to go to Tombstone AZ I would recommend it. I have been there twice and had a fantastic time watching the OK Corral reenactors and getting hammered at the bars and restaurants. Great place with friendly people!
one of my all time favorite movies. so well made on every level.
Great video. Thank you.
Love the narration!!
For a better appreciation of this movie, get the DVD with the commentary and making of additions. That explains why the artistic licence was taken, and where, and which aspects of the film were as authentic as possible.
I love this movie. I watch this every time I see it on. Doesn’t matter where in the movie it is. It’s my favorite and I’m not a huge western fan. But Val in this is absolutely fucking amazing. It’s his best acting. His back and forth with Biehn is great. Love the line "I’m your Huckleberry". You can see the fear in Ringo’s eyes.
Tombstone is one of the best westerns ever made. It is right up there with The Searchers.
Tombstone is my favorite movie of all time. Thanks for the history lesson. Got yourself a new subscriber.
An all time classic, one of my favorite movie ever !
Can you also do a video about The Quick and the Dead ? (either revisited or wtf happened) 😁
Dear Nick! I have been to historical Tombstone. I loved it..and I loved the movie Tombstone and the many times I watched it. I loved Tombstone and Arizona!
Like Denzel Washington’s Electric portrayal of Malcolm X and Val Kilmer’s incredible portrayal Of Doc Hoilday.. I’m still baffled how these two Fantastic actors didn’t receive Oscars for both of these roles in both these incredible Films.
The gunfight actually didn't occur at the OK Corral. The shootout actually took place in a narrow lot on the side of C. S. Fly's photography studio on Fremont Street, six doors west of the O.K. Corral's rear entrance. All Western movies about the gunfight at OK Corral have this detail wrong. It really doesn't matter to me. 'Tombstone' is my favorite depiction of this story. Great cast and great acting.
This movie is a perfect adaptation of American Folklore/History. Embellished and theatrical as necessary. Its like how we actually recount stories to pass down but visualized perfectly in the medium of film. Truly a masterpiece.
Stillwell: Hey Maddy, where's Wyatt?
Wyatt: Right behind you Stilwell.😠
"Ill he your Huckleberry"
Spoken by a true Legend
The fact this movie stuck so close to the source material is what made it so good.
All the leads should have gotten Oscars!!! Everyone was at the top of their game and spirred the other actors to do the same.. That doesn't happen often but it sure did here!
Great video, but I notice a huge deservice to the making of the film. They shot a different movie and the theatrical one was vastly changed by reshoots. Originally there was a much less clear distinction between good guys and bad guys. The Earps were doing bad things and the cowboys were more sympathetic. I want to see a recut of this film including the original storyline
In real life the Earps were indeed the bully aggressors. The brothers that were killed during the OK Corral fight were just poor farmers and didn't deserve it.
I remember reading somewhere that Kurt Russel played a big role in making Wyatt Earp more heroic. Is this true?
I love this movie but I'd also like to see the original version if it exists.
We need this movie in 4k, but one thing. It's taken too long. And we also need to see all the other footage. Let Russel do whatever cut he wants. Give us multiple versions Ala Blade Runner. Just give us the original and all the extras in 4k. @@robertherrick6703
"Fights commenced, Get to fightin or get away" are the words that got the earps off.
I moved to AZ in Feb 21 2022... How did I not see this video when it came out!?
Considering how sketchy historical accuracy was back in those days, it's likely there are very few true accounts of anything that occurred way back then. Either way, as far as movies go, Tombstone is by far the best modern western ever made. It's damn sure the most quotable. Almost every line is a famous quote. That's when you know you have an iconic movie on your hands.
FAVOURITE Western Ever. Cant get enough of it. Love the Film Wyatt Earp too tbh, but Tombstone is just Epic.
I had no idea that Stephen Lang played Ike Clanton. Amazing performance.
Hes a very versatile and underrated actor. He was also good in Public Enemies. He can play a hard nosed no nonsense law man just as easily as he can play a villain.
nice vid, ty
I'm part of the younger generation (1992), but Tombstone was my first favorite non-animated movie. It's special to me, and I was surprised it isn't as well known to people my age & younger.
I always advise people to keep this movie and the history in separate camps.
It’s crazy this hit my suggestions right now. I’m watching tombstone on tv right now
you're being watched
Love, love, love this film. Kilmer's absolute finest performance.
I know a guy who lives by Johnny Ringo's grave - it's a neat place, but it is on private property. The family that owns it allows visitors to access it freely.
The family that owns the gravesite goes back to the original ranching family to this day.
If you do visit, please be respectful of the family.
Been my favorite movie since I was a little kid (born '83). Saw it five or six times in the theater and still have my movie poster my father got for me by bribing the guy at the movie rental place.
I know that Kurt Russell basically directed the entire film and I believe doc had many friends/family around when he died . Also their was a really crazy drunk fight between doc and Ike that the film kind of touched on .
How do you know that?
The only fact I take exception to was the gunfight with Curly Bill . I had heard that first off, everyone left and Wyatt was left alone; plus, he stood perfectly still , and not one bullet hit him; just his coat. He did , in fact kill Curly Bill in that fight, though.
According to Earp when Curly Bill's bunch opened fire Earp pulled his shotgun and dismounted. Holliday and the others turned and galloped off. Earp and Curly Bill exchanged shotgun blasts. Curly Bill was killed. The other cowboys were still shooting. Earp tried to get to his rifle but his horse was spooked and he couldn't reach it. Finally he mounted and rejoined his posse who were surprised he was alive and unwounded, especially with all the bullet holes in his clothing. They offered to go after the cowboys, but Earp said he'd had enough and they retreated.
I was a 17 year old kid into Star Wars, Aliens and Terminator when this came out, so yeah, I missed it. Only later I started getting into westerns, but somehow this one still kept eluding me (even though I had a heavy mancrush on Michael Biehn *and* Val Kilmer as a teen). Last year I got it on bluray and finally got to see it. I'm looking forward to years of regular rewatching. :-)
My favourite Western by a country mile. Great movie.
I read that Johnny Ringos revolver had only 5 bullets in it when they found him. Either shooting himself or at someone who killed him. It was ruled a suicide by the coroner. They would not have done that with a fully loaded pistol.
This is one of my all time favorite movies.
The only thing I dislike about the movie is the way Shakespeare is depicted as something foreign to the "common people" when in fact this was the height of popularity of Shakespeare and most "common people" could recite favorite selections from the plays, while at the lowest levels of society fights (and some famous riots) could break out over discussions of which actor portrayed which Shakespearian role best.
One of my favourite movies!!! Didnt see this till 2021 either haha.. Amazing movie with a phenomenal cast!
My favorite movie since coming out and still is.
When describing the events at the OK Corral, it sounds like the narrator is saying Furman St., when it’s actually Fremont St.
They just don't make movies like this anymore, everything about it is great, Doc and Ringo steal the movie.
Saw this as a kid and it's such a great movie and it has an amazing cast.
"I can be your huckleberry"
Doc Holidays made that 🎥🍿, I also very much enjoyed Sam Elliott and EVERYONE'S performance
Kilmer, Biehn, and Russel were standouts, but you can point at anyone in that cast and they all delivered great performances.
Wow, surprisingly accurate 😮👍
I thought it was going to cover what happened behind the scenes also like any actors not getting along, Val Kilmer being known as difficult to work with, we're they ahead or behind schedule, etc
I have such fond memories of sitting on my friend's couch watching this vhs on repeat week after week while cleaning our guns and packing for hunting trips and such. We must have all watched this movie a hundred times or more over the years and it just never got old. The buddy who's house we used to watch it has since passed on, so I really cherish these flashbacks. I was also lucky enough to visit the little town one day while driving cross country to a new Naval duty station. I was all by myself and just up and decided to make the trip out of my way. Bought a little wooden pocket knife with my name on I still have! lol Good memories. It was a beautiful day and the people were all very friendly.
One of the Best Westerns ever! Top actors at the top of their game.
Every YT vid like this @ Tombstone has MULTIPLE COMMENTS saying same thing: Val deserved the Oscar. And i agree, & consider it not just my fave film ever,but the closest thing to a perfect movie with a main cast who’s performances couldnt have been better!!❤❤
I used to watch this everyday after school. My mother stills asks me to reenact scenes from it.
I think Kurt Russell is the best Wyatt. The way they described Wyatt Earp in newspapers, fits Kurt Russell. He even has the warm smile. I just have this gut feeling that Mr. Earp's mannerisms are much like Mr. Russell's in that movie.
This story is so fantastical and cool, it's amazing how much of it is actually true.
"And hell's coming with me,you hear?HELL IS COMING WITH ME!"...Love the film.
Me and my dad’s favorite movie to watch together. Often to my mom’s dismay.
However, the movie shows that Doc Holliday left the Corral unharmed, in reality only Wyatt was unharmed during the Corral shootout and the reason for Wyatts and Docs fallout is because Doc was actually opposed to Wyatt and Josephine getting married and Doc refered to Wyatt as "a damned jewboy" (Josephine was from a jewish family).
Interesting,first time i heard of doc disliking jews.
The studio was caught by surprise. They should have pushed Killers name in the Oscar race but failed him
I may be off on this but I remember a story of a bounty hunter hired to kill Wyatt (before tombstone) showing up, he and Wyatt cleared out a saloon to talk in private and the bounty hunter left not fulfilling the bounty and nobody knows what exactly was said.
love this movie and still do ... great cast ..
"You tell 'em I'm coming. And hell's coming with me"
"You tell 'em I'm coming! Tell 'em I'm f***ing coming!!" -- The Limey
I'll be your Hucklebearer!
A top tier, highly captivating film. I saw it in the '90s originally and multiple times since. One of my favorites.
You've seen it multiple times and get the quote wrong...well done
The number one song that year was "Mamas, Make Sure Your Babies Grow Up to be Cowboys".
I worked on the first, abandoned version of the film under the direction of Jarre. Unfortunately, they didn't keep me for the Cosmatos version.
I clicked on this video expecting a story behind the movie cuz from what I’ve heard, there is one. But this what I got from this video instead was just as good.
Greatest "NOOOOOO!" scene in movie history! LoL
Looking back, Wyatt Earp almost serves a prequel to Tombstone. The last film of Robert Mitchum…
I have it on VHS, watching on DVR right now.
Interesting that Wyatt Earp went back and forth with his admittance of killing Johnny Ringo. Was he trying NOT to be official in killing him for worry about publicity or even vendettas on him? If it's more decided that he did kill Johnny rather than he had no involvement in this, then it's further interesting that this film not only goes for the story of Doc killing Johnny, but also to state that Wyatt was unable to do this, as it portrays Johnny being a faster draw than Earp. I find it a bit odd that it weighs heavily so much toward Doc being the one to kill Ringo over Wyatt. Yes the movie results of Doc vs Ringo were incredibly intense, unbearably suspenseful and altogether explosively exciting though and I loved it!