As someone who'a failed twice now, and someone that has a brother that failed twice also, here's what we both failed on: [Failing to cancel indicator]. It is a hard thing to build into muscle memory if you haven't managed to get enough hours riding on the roads to learn how to cancel non cancelling indicatators. [failing to perform emergency stop]: Both of us had slightly wet conditions on the days of the tests we failed to this reason. The only thing i've learned so far is to load up the front brake about 95% and only tap the rear brake lightly. It will depend on the actual bike you are riding, but practice these a lot before your test on different road surfaces to learn the capability of your bike. If you skid even a tiny amount it's a fail, and if you can't stop before 12 meters when the instructor raises their hand (15 in the wet) it's a fail. You are given two attempts and take penalty marks if you can't do it the first time. Our bikes have both been enduro dirtbikes with enduro tires. Road tires should make it a fair bit easier to stop without skidding i think.
Thanks for this video, it was very helpful. Planning to get my bike license this year in WA. Doing some research at the moment and came across your video,
The sooner you sit that theory test, the better. Waiting six months from the time you sit that test can feel like an eternity and you will wish you did the test sooner. Good luck! Maybe I'll see you on the road one day :)
Thanks for the refresher. I've been sitting on my learners for a while & needed reminding of some things. I know this doesn't help anybody but I got very lucky, having had my L's once before I got in just before some kind of grace period when I applied for my L's a second time & I don't have to do any of the logbook stuff. I could have booked my practical test immediately if I wanted. It at least serves as a reminder that the rules could change, although I'm not aware of any changes since this video was uploaded
Great video, the only edit, if not already mentioned, is just because you can go riding with someone who has had their license for more than 4 years, doesn't mean you should. For example, my father in law has had his motorcycle license longer than I have been alive, at the time he got his license, he literally had to ride around the block with a police officer so they could deem that he could confidently control the bike.. He has little to no experience in current day methods, best practice procedures and ways to handle a bike that is expected of one to be riding on the road now days. As such, his recommendation, was go and get as many hours on the bike with a licensed, well recognised (reviews help) instructor on their approved bikes. Instructors are better suited to help set the foundations for good riding habits, and once you've got enough time in with an instructor, you can then go riding with any person(s) whom you're allowed to ride with so you can concentrate on working on what you learnt from your lessons. It's far easier to set good, safe riding foundations from the get go than it is to learn how to ride a bike and then have to shake bad habits because you and the person you were riding with didn't know any better. You don't know what you don't know, and seeking assistance and paying for a professional to help you is worth every cent.
@@ruzzy8883 Good luck with the test!! It's easy, you will ace it. Just make sure you get to the licencing centre before 3:45pm if you're in a metro location. They won't let you sit the test any later than that.
Thanks for your work 🙏 Finally a video explaining the whole process. I am really confused regarding step 3 as a foreigner who just converted his car licence here and don’t know much about licensing. I am 36 and have a C class licence already, in regards to step 3, does it means I have to book 50 hours of driving lessons from a driving school? I don’t know anyone with a bike licence here.
Hi Dorian, I completely understand your confusion - I was in exactly the same position. The answer is no, you don't have to do 50 hours because you're over 25 and have a C class licence. You only need to wait 6 months from the time you get your learner's permit before you can do the hazard perception and practical tests. I would still recommend getting lessons because you will be taught exactly how to pass the practical test. But you only need to do as many as will make you feel confident - you won't need to do 50 :) Go for it!!
@@lefaaleanga269 Hi LeFaaleanga, I was not too sure what the answer to this question was myself just from reading the ridesafe manual so I called the Department of Transport. They told me that you only need to do the log book for your first class of licence. That means, if you have already done a log book for a car, you DO NOT have to do the log book for a motorcycle. The only time you have to do a log book is if you get a motorcycle licence BEFORE a car licence. So the answer to your question is no, you do not have to do the log book if you are on your P Plates. All the best! :)
Hi there, great video and thanks for posting this. Just wanted to ask if you took lessons after getting the L's ? if so, where do you reccommend. Cheers
Hi, Just wondering if you could help me with some information? I am considering getting a R-E motorcycle licence in the near future. I have held my R-N (moped) licence since 1991 & C class (car) licence since 1992. For me to get my R-E licence what do I need to do? I can see that I do not have to log the 50 supervised hours but will I still be required to have a learner's permit for 6 months then sit the Hazard Perception Test even though I have held a R-N licence for 31 years? Thanks
Do you have to wait 6 months if you have a car licence. Also do you have to own a bike for the 6 months are can you just wait 6 months and do the test. Thanks !
Hello, thank you for the information. I do have a question, I have a WA car full driving license and I am over 25. Can i directly go for R-E license or do I need to go through the Learner's route?
Hi I’m 21 years young and I’ve been told that I look 18😂 anyways I just recently got my motorcycle license and I need some friends to hang out with sometimes with motorcycle
hi great video, just a question how much should i expect to pay for courses to fill my 50 hours in my logbook. ive been looking around and all seem to be $3k+ for the total 50hours. thanks
also, is the logbook only applicable if you do not hold a drivers license? on the website and in the ride safe book it says if you have your C class drivers license you dont need to record any hours. do you have any information on this i cant seem to find any ones take on it to confirm. thanks for helping!
So in Western Australia do you have to do an eye test (like you have to for C class license?? At any stage? Or can I remain anti-social go in sit theory and take off? Haha
I haven't had to take any sort of eye test before doing practical assesments for motorcycle license (failed twice so far) You can just go in there and be antisocial for a bit yes. If you don't have a license already, the process may be different.
@@shackletans1055 so how much hours do you do because I’m pretty skilled on motor cross bikes so can just do the test to straight up Sorry for asking complicated questions 😄
@@perth7930 you can do as many or as little hours as you want. Hours don't matter for people with a car licence. BUT you have to wait 6 months from the time you pass your theory test to sit the hazard perception test. And you can't do the practical assessment until you have finished the hazard perception test. So if you do the theory test tomorrow, you could get your RE licence in 6 months from tomorrow. Hoping this makes sense.
@@perth7930 Also, I highly recommend getting a lesson or two in the six months you have to wait to get your licence. Even though you already know how to ride, there are road riding things you need to know - like how many times to let your indicator flash before changing lanes. Or the sequence for turning blind corners (eg head check, move left, wait until you can see through the corner, cut the corner, head check, move right). These (and many more) are all the little things you will have to know to pass the test.
A nice little summary minus all the bullshit. Great to have it simplified for a newbie. Thanks for taking the time to break it down.
I just took the practice test and passed 80% with no study LOL
Thank you! Nice video :)
Bro. Can international students get a license over thereM
@@iv-hf7dm yes you can
What’s in the test
As someone who'a failed twice now, and someone that has a brother that failed twice also, here's what we both failed on:
[Failing to cancel indicator].
It is a hard thing to build into muscle memory if you haven't managed to get enough hours riding on the roads to learn how to cancel non cancelling indicatators.
[failing to perform emergency stop]:
Both of us had slightly wet conditions on the days of the tests we failed to this reason.
The only thing i've learned so far is to load up the front brake about 95% and only tap the rear brake lightly.
It will depend on the actual bike you are riding, but practice these a lot before your test on different road surfaces to learn the capability of your bike.
If you skid even a tiny amount it's a fail, and if you can't stop before 12 meters when the instructor raises their hand (15 in the wet) it's a fail.
You are given two attempts and take penalty marks if you can't do it the first time.
Our bikes have both been enduro dirtbikes with enduro tires. Road tires should make it a fair bit easier to stop without skidding i think.
Thanks for this video, it was very helpful. Planning to get my bike license this year in WA. Doing some research at the moment and came across your video,
The sooner you sit that theory test, the better. Waiting six months from the time you sit that test can feel like an eternity and you will wish you did the test sooner. Good luck! Maybe I'll see you on the road one day :)
Thanks for the refresher. I've been sitting on my learners for a while & needed reminding of some things.
I know this doesn't help anybody but I got very lucky, having had my L's once before I got in just before some kind of grace period when I applied for my L's a second time & I don't have to do any of the logbook stuff. I could have booked my practical test immediately if I wanted.
It at least serves as a reminder that the rules could change, although I'm not aware of any changes since this video was uploaded
Thanks for explanation, the Gov website is a nightmare ha, freaks me out.
I could not agree more! haha
Govt freaks me out PERIOD!
Great video, the only edit, if not already mentioned, is just because you can go riding with someone who has had their license for more than 4 years, doesn't mean you should. For example, my father in law has had his motorcycle license longer than I have been alive, at the time he got his license, he literally had to ride around the block with a police officer so they could deem that he could confidently control the bike.. He has little to no experience in current day methods, best practice procedures and ways to handle a bike that is expected of one to be riding on the road now days. As such, his recommendation, was go and get as many hours on the bike with a licensed, well recognised (reviews help) instructor on their approved bikes. Instructors are better suited to help set the foundations for good riding habits, and once you've got enough time in with an instructor, you can then go riding with any person(s) whom you're allowed to ride with so you can concentrate on working on what you learnt from your lessons.
It's far easier to set good, safe riding foundations from the get go than it is to learn how to ride a bike and then have to shake bad habits because you and the person you were riding with didn't know any better. You don't know what you don't know, and seeking assistance and paying for a professional to help you is worth every cent.
Very helpful thanks! Can’t wait for the other video 🙏
Thank you for you video I'm about to move to Australia and this video is totally helpful for me to know exactly what to do when I come there ^^
Effective information... Thanks
I'm so glad you think so! WA has one of the more onerous systems unfortunately but it will only make it that much sweeter making it to the end!
Absolute legend! Cheers
very informative. thanks heaps.
Thank you, very helpful 👍🏼👍🏼
I'm stoked you found it helpful! All the best and if you're in WA, maybe I'll see you on the road one day.
Thankyou, planning on doing the theory pretty soon and will be sure to give ya a wave if i see ya :)
@@ruzzy8883 Good luck with the test!! It's easy, you will ace it. Just make sure you get to the licencing centre before 3:45pm if you're in a metro location. They won't let you sit the test any later than that.
Thanks for your work 🙏
Finally a video explaining the whole process. I am really confused regarding step 3 as a foreigner who just converted his car licence here and don’t know much about licensing.
I am 36 and have a C class licence already, in regards to step 3, does it means I have to book 50 hours of driving lessons from a driving school? I don’t know anyone with a bike licence here.
Hi Dorian, I completely understand your confusion - I was in exactly the same position. The answer is no, you don't have to do 50 hours because you're over 25 and have a C class licence. You only need to wait 6 months from the time you get your learner's permit before you can do the hazard perception and practical tests.
I would still recommend getting lessons because you will be taught exactly how to pass the practical test. But you only need to do as many as will make you feel confident - you won't need to do 50 :)
Go for it!!
@@shackletans1055 will you still have to do 50 logged hours if you are under 25 and are on P plates?
@@lefaaleanga269 Hi LeFaaleanga, I was not too sure what the answer to this question was myself just from reading the ridesafe manual so I called the Department of Transport. They told me that you only need to do the log book for your first class of licence. That means, if you have already done a log book for a car, you DO NOT have to do the log book for a motorcycle. The only time you have to do a log book is if you get a motorcycle licence BEFORE a car licence. So the answer to your question is no, you do not have to do the log book if you are on your P Plates. All the best! :)
@@shackletans1055 so lets say we’ve got full C class car licence
We still have to wait 6 months after getting Ls no matter what?
Thanks
What about if you already hold a car license?, do you still have to do the 50hrs
Hi Aston, Page 28 of the Ride Safe Manual states that you do not have to do the log book if you are, "authorised to drive a C class vehicle".
Great information shared...👍👍
If you upload a video on other countries rider want to drive a motorcycle in Australia what permit and licance required
What a great idea!
Thank you! Great vid
What image was that when you talked about engine size? Pulse jet engine? It wasn’t a motorbike engine.
On your P’s and pretty sure L’s you can have engine power above 660cc, there are loopholes like if the bike is really heavy let’s say
Sorry so to clarify do I need to get six months of supervised riding before doing my hazard perception, or 50 hours? I’m a little confused
Hi there, great video and thanks for posting this. Just wanted to ask if you took lessons after getting the L's ? if so, where do you reccommend. Cheers
this is awesome! thanks so much!
was your intro in the warnbro salt lakes?
It is!!! I love the salt lakes ❤️
Hi,
Just wondering if you could help me with some information?
I am considering getting a R-E motorcycle licence in the near future.
I have held my R-N (moped) licence since 1991 & C class (car) licence since 1992.
For me to get my R-E licence what do I need to do? I can see that I do not have to log the 50 supervised hours but will I still be required to have a learner's permit for 6 months then sit the Hazard Perception Test even though I have held a R-N licence for 31 years?
Thanks
Do you have to wait 6 months if you have a car licence.
Also do you have to own a bike for the 6 months are can you just wait 6 months and do the test.
Thanks !
I have an unrestricted MC license do I still need to do this?
Thanks for this video. It would be great… if you tell what to do if I have an overseas bike license?
Hello, thank you for the information. I do have a question, I have a WA car full driving license and I am over 25. Can i directly go for R-E license or do I need to go through the Learner's route?
Learner's man, just won't have to display any P plates after
Thx luv 👍
I got a learners permit for more than a year and haven't hot a chance to have a riding lesson as I am too busy....
Is a 50 hours logbook required after I’ve already done 50 hours on my Ls in a car?
have you found out?
@@lucca2716have you found out yet?
What about hazard perception test?
How am I supposed to log hours if I don't have anyone to accompany me
Legend 👍
Where can I find the other video ? Of what to expect at a the practical exam ?
Hii. hope you are well. just one Question so can I use my overseas license then even if I'm under 25?
Hello I’m just wondering if i am on my Red P can do I need to wait 6 months todo the test or can I do it straight away
What about electric moter bikes?
Is it a different process if you already have your car license?
Are you still riding? Its been more than a year since your last update.
Hi I’m 21 years young and I’ve been told that I look 18😂 anyways I just recently got my motorcycle license and I need some friends to hang out with sometimes with motorcycle
My problems my English not good for answer the exam for license but I'm good drive motorcycle I have experience 5 years in drive motorcycle
So I have a C license, do I have to be supervised while driving on my Learners RE licence?
Or can I drive without being supervised?
Thanks
hi great video, just a question how much should i expect to pay for courses to fill my 50 hours in my logbook. ive been looking around and all seem to be $3k+ for the total 50hours. thanks
also, is the logbook only applicable if you do not hold a drivers license? on the website and in the ride safe book it says if you have your C class drivers license you dont need to record any hours. do you have any information on this i cant seem to find any ones take on it to confirm. thanks for helping!
That's what I was wondering
Does Eastern Australia have different licencing laws? Thanks
Hi Joel, yes every state has different laws. Have a look at the Department of Transport website for whichever state you are in.
Hey, are u still riding?!
So in Western Australia do you have to do an eye test (like you have to for C class license?? At any stage?
Or can I remain anti-social go in sit theory and take off? Haha
I haven't had to take any sort of eye test before doing practical assesments for motorcycle license (failed twice so far)
You can just go in there and be antisocial for a bit yes.
If you don't have a license already, the process may be different.
Hello do you have to do 50 hours if your on a c class .do you have to complete 50 hrs I’m confused pleas ehelp
Hi, yes it is confusing! No, you do not have to do 50 hours if you have a driver's licence (any class) - Even if you are still on your P plates.
@@shackletans1055 so how much hours do you do because I’m pretty skilled on motor cross bikes so can just do the test to straight up
Sorry for asking complicated questions 😄
@@perth7930 you can do as many or as little hours as you want. Hours don't matter for people with a car licence. BUT you have to wait 6 months from the time you pass your theory test to sit the hazard perception test. And you can't do the practical assessment until you have finished the hazard perception test. So if you do the theory test tomorrow, you could get your RE licence in 6 months from tomorrow. Hoping this makes sense.
@@perth7930 Also, I highly recommend getting a lesson or two in the six months you have to wait to get your licence. Even though you already know how to ride, there are road riding things you need to know - like how many times to let your indicator flash before changing lanes. Or the sequence for turning blind corners (eg head check, move left, wait until you can see through the corner, cut the corner, head check, move right). These (and many more) are all the little things you will have to know to pass the test.
Yeah use your common sense. I passed y theory test in 5 mins.