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far out. In NSW its 100 bucks for the mandatory pre learner course and then only 50 bucks for the L's knowledge computer test you need to get your L's.
You should see the prices here is Tassie 750 for the ls test 50 for the card then another 350 for the pre ps test then once again another 300 for the actual ps test
Had my learner's for 6 months now and planning on booking the 2nd step soon. I would go more towards a year but I might need a surgery soon and don't want recovery to overlap and then have my learners lapse. It's so daunting because I always just ride on my own, but I'm somewhat confident in my technical skills. I actually don't mind riding in the rain but I don't like the cars in the rain racing to get wherever even though they're enclosed 😂 and tram tracks. Screw wet tram tracks. Looking forward to lane filtering, sitting in traffic in summer has been hell.
If you've ridden regularly then 6 months is most probably plenty of time before going for your restricted. Riding on your own is a good thing when you're fresh to the scene. I only started regular group rides recently after months of practice. In a group there's a bit more pressure to ride to their skill level, and it's hard to avoid that no matter how many people tell you to ride your own ride. Filtering made a massive difference to my rides, especially when I started commuting. Good luck for your test and I hope your surgery goes well 👍
Hey mate, this was a loan bike so not my quadlock. You are not allowed to use your phone as navigation until you are off your restricted license ie. not until 3 years after you're off your Ls
@@gutterrashrides Appreciate the response mate. Hard to get anywhere these days without navigation, I'll have to stick to my stealth voice navs from a pocketed phone.
Man I agree, it's one of those things I didn't see coming before I started riding. I tried pocketing the phone but couldn't hear it over the wind noise and all 😭. I know some people write directions down, put it in a clear plastic sleeve, then use magnets to hold it to the tank but I don't know if I can be bothered with that haha
Wow that so different from my location wa ! It’s about 120 ish you pay to the learners theory plus your license physically learners card, 6 months to the day you’re eligible to go for your test and the test is on the roads < 3 main exercises 1 - emergency stop at 50/Km hour stop with in 10 metres but preferably in 4-6 2- o turns 8-10 Slow walking speed o turns with the the lines between the carpark on either side , can’t cross the line or put foot down instant fail ( although if your riding well they let you off for foot down once ) And hill start , 0 rollback Plus your general riding lane position, indicating etc
Nice one. It sounds more reasonable and riding-experience-oriented than the process in Spain. One day I may do a video about the "amazing" adventure of importing and registering a bike in Australia LOL.
It's quite involved, but worth it in my opinion. What's it like in Spain? Do it haha, importing anything into Australia seems to be a nightmare. My family had plenty of trouble bringing the family car over from New Zealand
@@gutterrashrides So first we have the A1 license up to 125cc/11kW, but not necessary to obtain if you want to get an unrestricted one. Minimum age is 16. At 18yo you can start your road to unrestricted with a theory exam about traffic regulations (pretty easy if you already drive a car). Then a closed circuit test which sucks because it's going straight over a 2 meter long narrow board, some slow zigzag and then a fast zigzag+180 degree turn+accelerate and brake on a designated spot. One only chance, anything wrong and you're out and have to come back another day. Two fails and you have to pay the fees again. Oh, and the last bit has to be done in 24 seconds, one tenth more and...yes, you're out. And time is taken by a guy with a hand stopwatch at the other end so you can imagine the acuracy... If you pass that then it's an open road test, with the examiner following you behind in a car with your riding school instructor and giving you intercom instructions. Not too hard if you're used to traffic but a bit tricky as any mistake, not head checking, etc. and you're done till the next one. If you pass you get the A2 license for 2 years, restricted to bikes up to 35kW/48hp. Then, after 2 years you can apply for the unrestricted license, which is basically a course you pay for and you have to complete 4 boring hours up and down the closed track again no timer this time) and an open road ride with an instructor who certifies you're capable of riding. The problem is once you get the A2 you don't need to prove any experience other than that last ride, and you could just let 2 years pass and there you go, unrestricted and good luck on the road. It's totally up to the instructor, with cases of people not even turning up to the course and still getting the license just paying for it. I think the process here helps to get more confidence and experience before accesing a big bike :)
Regarding the import...it gets even more fun if it's a grey import with some history (Japan to UK and then to Australia) with not a lot of info in their databases XD Mine took a while and eventually I got there, but the amount of steps, time and money you have to go through is a bit overwhelming and discouraging at some points. Oh, and good luck with insurance. Anything not in the insurer's database is a no-go for them. In the UK it was much easier for grey imports. Luckily enough I could find one! (out of I can't remember how many I called).
Oh, and I forgot to mention I had to dismantle and thoroughly clean every single part of the bike. I was adviced any remains of dirt/mud/insects/etc. and you get a very expensive surprise from Customs/Quarantine, either to get it cleaned or destroyed. Good part of it is I have a 28 year old bike that looks like brand new, hahah!!
WOW. I thought Australia's process was stringent...That almost sounds overkill over there. I do agree with Australia and Europe's 2/3 year restricted bike rule. At first I thought it was too long, but I rode my first 600cc yesterday and I now totally understand why they make us wait a few years before we can ride them legally.
Good info and love your positive attitude, I’m booked for my learners test in 4 days and I’m nervous but excited. Your words keep me hopeful, keep being you 😊
That's how much I paid for my 2 day learners course at my local MLA establishment. Was a little bit pricier because it was the weekend, but $500 is the standard going rate down here in Victoria
I think they actually beeped me but I edited it out 😆 I keep in mind that it's safest for us, we're legally entitled to be there, and they don't have to wait long at all until they can proceed as it doesn't take a whole light cycle
@@gutterrashrideshey mate I have a bit of experience around 2years of riding 2 times a week for an hour each time and do you have any nice bikes to recommend scoundrel hand or new with a 10k to 12k budget
@@jackson2751 Hey man that's a good amount of experience - highly depends on your style but bikes like the R7, cbr 650r, street triple are good. 660 cc is max for lams but just because it's under that number doesn't mean its LAMs legal - double check on this site to see if its legal: www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/licence-and-permit-types/motorcycle-licence-and-learner-permit/approved-motorcycles-for-novice-riders
far out. In NSW its 100 bucks for the mandatory pre learner course and then only 50 bucks for the L's knowledge computer test you need to get your L's.
I thought it cost more than that
You should see the prices here is Tassie 750 for the ls test 50 for the card then another 350 for the pre ps test then once again another 300 for the actual ps test
Insanity mate @@kennedybushcraftandmakery
It is $660 in qld for the pre learners course
For a second , I thought this was a Honda Hornet 250. The meter panel fooled me.
Hornet 250 in all its 4 cylinder glory? I wish...
U can pay 100 for a riding school with no learners?
Did my headstart course last week in the morning, literally left there and bought my bike, learner's course next week! Wish me luck 😁
Good luck! 🏍🏍
Passed 😜@@gutterrashrides
what bike you get bro?
Wow! It's changed a bit in 20 years.
Used to be a 2 day course for L's and that was it.
Then another 2 day course for Full.
Had my learner's for 6 months now and planning on booking the 2nd step soon. I would go more towards a year but I might need a surgery soon and don't want recovery to overlap and then have my learners lapse.
It's so daunting because I always just ride on my own, but I'm somewhat confident in my technical skills.
I actually don't mind riding in the rain but I don't like the cars in the rain racing to get wherever even though they're enclosed 😂 and tram tracks. Screw wet tram tracks.
Looking forward to lane filtering, sitting in traffic in summer has been hell.
If you've ridden regularly then 6 months is most probably plenty of time before going for your restricted. Riding on your own is a good thing when you're fresh to the scene. I only started regular group rides recently after months of practice. In a group there's a bit more pressure to ride to their skill level, and it's hard to avoid that no matter how many people tell you to ride your own ride.
Filtering made a massive difference to my rides, especially when I started commuting.
Good luck for your test and I hope your surgery goes well 👍
Just got my Learners in Victoria in March. $550 for learners, 2 days course with 15month validity, $275 for checkride and $275 for full license test.
i like that youre not in a hurrt to get out of your learners. most of the bike riders wants to get P and buy a 600-1000 bike
I see you've got a Quadlock on the bike. Are you allowed to use your phone as navigation once you're off your L's?
Hey mate, this was a loan bike so not my quadlock. You are not allowed to use your phone as navigation until you are off your restricted license ie. not until 3 years after you're off your Ls
@@gutterrashrides Appreciate the response mate. Hard to get anywhere these days without navigation, I'll have to stick to my stealth voice navs from a pocketed phone.
Man I agree, it's one of those things I didn't see coming before I started riding. I tried pocketing the phone but couldn't hear it over the wind noise and all 😭. I know some people write directions down, put it in a clear plastic sleeve, then use magnets to hold it to the tank but I don't know if I can be bothered with that haha
Wow that so different from my location wa !
It’s about 120 ish you pay to the learners theory plus your license physically learners card, 6 months to the day you’re eligible to go for your test and the test is on the roads < 3 main exercises
1 - emergency stop at 50/Km hour stop with in 10 metres but preferably in 4-6
2- o turns 8-10 Slow walking speed o turns with the the lines between the carpark on either side , can’t cross the line or put foot down instant fail ( although if your riding well they let you off for foot down once )
And hill start , 0 rollback
Plus your general riding lane position, indicating etc
Hey mate can you elaborate on O turns? Are they actual circles ?
Cheers
Nice one. It sounds more reasonable and riding-experience-oriented than the process in Spain.
One day I may do a video about the "amazing" adventure of importing and registering a bike in Australia LOL.
It's quite involved, but worth it in my opinion. What's it like in Spain?
Do it haha, importing anything into Australia seems to be a nightmare. My family had plenty of trouble bringing the family car over from New Zealand
@@gutterrashrides So first we have the A1 license up to 125cc/11kW, but not necessary to obtain if you want to get an unrestricted one. Minimum age is 16.
At 18yo you can start your road to unrestricted with a theory exam about traffic regulations (pretty easy if you already drive a car).
Then a closed circuit test which sucks because it's going straight over a 2 meter long narrow board, some slow zigzag and then a fast zigzag+180 degree turn+accelerate and brake on a designated spot.
One only chance, anything wrong and you're out and have to come back another day. Two fails and you have to pay the fees again. Oh, and the last bit has to be done in 24 seconds, one tenth more and...yes, you're out. And time is taken by a guy with a hand stopwatch at the other end so you can imagine the acuracy...
If you pass that then it's an open road test, with the examiner following you behind in a car with your riding school instructor and giving you intercom instructions.
Not too hard if you're used to traffic but a bit tricky as any mistake, not head checking, etc. and you're done till the next one.
If you pass you get the A2 license for 2 years, restricted to bikes up to 35kW/48hp.
Then, after 2 years you can apply for the unrestricted license, which is basically a course you pay for and you have to complete 4 boring hours up and down the closed track again no timer this time) and an open road ride with an instructor who certifies you're capable of riding.
The problem is once you get the A2 you don't need to prove any experience other than that last ride, and you could just let 2 years pass and there you go, unrestricted and good luck on the road. It's totally up to the instructor, with cases of people not even turning up to the course and still getting the license just paying for it.
I think the process here helps to get more confidence and experience before accesing a big bike :)
Regarding the import...it gets even more fun if it's a grey import with some history (Japan to UK and then to Australia) with not a lot of info in their databases XD
Mine took a while and eventually I got there, but the amount of steps, time and money you have to go through is a bit overwhelming and discouraging at some points.
Oh, and good luck with insurance. Anything not in the insurer's database is a no-go for them. In the UK it was much easier for grey imports.
Luckily enough I could find one! (out of I can't remember how many I called).
Oh, and I forgot to mention I had to dismantle and thoroughly clean every single part of the bike.
I was adviced any remains of dirt/mud/insects/etc. and you get a very expensive surprise from Customs/Quarantine, either to get it cleaned or destroyed.
Good part of it is I have a 28 year old bike that looks like brand new, hahah!!
WOW. I thought Australia's process was stringent...That almost sounds overkill over there. I do agree with Australia and Europe's 2/3 year restricted bike rule. At first I thought it was too long, but I rode my first 600cc yesterday and I now totally understand why they make us wait a few years before we can ride them legally.
Good info and love your positive attitude, I’m booked for my learners test in 4 days and I’m nervous but excited.
Your words keep me hopeful, keep being you 😊
Thank you for your kind words!
Good luck with your test, I'm sure you'll ace it 🏍🏍
if they don't supply the bike at the learners course, how to I bring my own bike, and how to I practice, or buy it if I don't have my license?
is that zugamis the restuarant on your left (at the start of the video)
Man I feel for you having todo two days it's only one day in Canberra
What are you using to record this video?
where are you getting $550 from its only $107 Dollars here in NSW, i did mine through Wheel Skills in Tamworth, NSW
That's how much I paid for my 2 day learners course at my local MLA establishment. Was a little bit pricier because it was the weekend, but $500 is the standard going rate down here in Victoria
@@gutterrashrides $380 in Brisbane QLD
5:50 do u feel pressure on a bike if cars behind want to turn left?
I think they actually beeped me but I edited it out 😆 I keep in mind that it's safest for us, we're legally entitled to be there, and they don't have to wait long at all until they can proceed as it doesn't take a whole light cycle
Bro your camera name?
Hey man it's a Gopro 10
Where did you do your learners course?
I did it at Allstar in Dandenong. My dad did his at Stayupright in Braeside. Both good experiences.
nice one bro.
Thank you!
Am i able to just learn the automatic ones?
Yes but you will be granted an automatic only license
@@gutterrashrideshey mate I have a bit of experience around 2years of riding 2 times a week for an hour each time and do you have any nice bikes to recommend scoundrel hand or new with a 10k to 12k budget
@@gutterrashridesand what cc does the b8e have to be under or any other bike laws
@@jackson2751 Hey man that's a good amount of experience - highly depends on your style but bikes like the R7, cbr 650r, street triple are good.
660 cc is max for lams but just because it's under that number doesn't mean its LAMs legal - double check on this site to see if its legal: www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/licence-and-permit-types/motorcycle-licence-and-learner-permit/approved-motorcycles-for-novice-riders
@@gutterrashrides thanks bro appreciate it
Remember not to hold your clutch at lights because you will burn it out