Ima hope & pray that the audio to sheet music conversion app I just used for Chica's Party is actually accurate & that my plan of posting the generated sheet music online will work; I don't know sh!t about music, so I'm hoping that I can get something from this. Also, Google Image searching screenshots didn't work on my end bc I just ended up getting more sheets that were just made from the app I used, seemingly no corelation besides that.
This isn’t just discovering FNaF lost media, it’s discovering lost historical music pieces, ones that sound really good at that, DJ pump that fox hunter song
It is fascinating that such old music can end up online, yet have their composer and even title forgotten. It’s almost poetic. The songs themselves are forever preserved on the internet, hundreds of copies on computers all over the globe. Yet they are only know for their sound. Nobody knows their names and their composer shares none of their fame. Their work remembered without them.
As someone who worked with antique paper in an archival job I just want to give a heads up that you should NOT actually be wearing gloves while handling paper items like that sheet music, actually. Gloves make your hands clumsier and the material can actually hurt the paper more - the best practice is actually to just use clean, dry hands!
Ok, so the fact we finally found the name of the Mangle's Quest song was already amazing... but the fact it's literally called "The _Fox_ Hunter's Gallop"?? This must've been fate wanting to be a bit funny, hehehe 😂
The FNaF fandom finding a piece of music almost literally lost to time was not on my bingo card this year, nor was the Hello Neighbor movie being announced but we take these I guess?
Damn, I wonder how they're gonna incorporate the neighbor refusing to get on the bed to capture you among all the other glitches/weird things in the game Although, if a had to guess it'll probably be on the books rather than actual games
SOCAN isn't a production company. It's a rights managing organization for Canadian music creators (Like ASCAP or BMI). You're not going to get anything meaningful out of them because they won't share that kind of information with non-rights holders.
For anyone who's participated in the search, has anyone tried transcribing the Chica song (turning it into sheet music)? That'd help a lot in ruling out songs that don't exactly match. If Biz sees this, I can make a transcription if no one else has.
seeing people try to find the original sources to files in games gives me flashbacks to that time somebody found out a texture in half-life 2 that originated from a real dead body
@@abyssofinfinitevoid7870 As others said, the corpse model with a burnt face was modeled after an image of a REAL corpse. This has also almost been the case with the infected from Left 4 Dead. Valve is VERY particular about such details.
@@abyssofinfinitevoid7870 I’ve seen blurred pics of the actual corpse, even blurred it’s… a lot. It’s an interesting story but don’t search it if that stuff really really upsets you. I refuse to search the uncensored picture.
Oh to imagine trying to explain why Marion's song has gained incredibly niche revival so many years after she's died. I think she'd be able to solve FNaF.
The especially funny bit is that it's not just "Fox" in the title, it's "The Fox Hunter's Gallop" and in the minigame the kid is running back and forth hunting mangle to take apart
7:24 the name is also ironic cus your hunting pieces of Mangle the Fox/endoskeleton/thing [Fox Hunters Galop] as a side note i could 100% see mangle only being able to galop due to how many limbs they have :+
I head cannon that galloping would be easier for mangle than walking. like how when you walk down a hill you end up speed walking, but instead of being from the angle it's because her legs are wack
It's not even just that the mangle song has fox in the title, the minigame's antagonist is chasing a fox (mangle) to try and take it apart (hunt it). The enemy of this minigame is a fox hunter, and this minigame is his galop.
What I’ve heard is that people can’t claim copyright to music, as in there shouldn’t be anything stopping anyone from playing the sheet music, and someone transcribing the original song into a form of sheet music and someone else playing an instrument based on the transcribed music shouldn’t matter (neither should someone playing the song themselves after hearing someone else’s recording), but taking a person’s recording of them playing the song and someone else playing that recording for commercial purposes means that the person recorded can demand the person using the recording to pay them. The performance recording can be copyrighted.
i forgot that fnaf was 10 years old and then i heard "a 9 year old five nights at freddy's mystery has been solved" and my hair started to turn gray and i got wrinkles all over my face and got back pain
The entry in the national library said “performed by all the military bands” which heavily implies its originally a composition for military band that was transcribed over to piano. This was before recording songs were possible, so all popular songs and many more were transcribed to piano so it could be played in the home. There is of course a possibility that the song was originally for piano, but I find that unlikely. At the very least I think we should be careful calling the piano version “the original”, at least just yet
What most terrifies me is that those song are so obscure, like there’s practically no origins, and when I listen again with that idea in mind it giving me chills
OH MY GODS FINALY, I have an old arse porcelain bird music box completely unlabeled that sounds EXACTLY like mangles quest and it drove me mad that I couldn't figure out where it came from-
I FUCKING LOVE people finding obscure shit and then PRESERVING it instead of giving up or just being like "well we found it. Sucks it's so obscure" Ndowhdosbsb- I could squeeze you im so happy
12:37 as the one who initially added fox hunter's galop to the fnaf wiki i lowkey shoved my hands into my face out of embarrassment when i heard this- i don't even know why, someone else at the wiki already fixed it and it wasn't my fault for not knowing but like mannnn 😭😭😭
A possible reason the “Fox-Hunter’s Gallop” is pitched down could be because they stock album company wanted to copyright it. An old music box disc like that has fallen out of copyright, so the music on could not be copyrighted. But taking a recording and playing with the pitch, could.
Everyone’s mentioning how funny it is that the piece’s called The Fox Hunter’s Gallop, but I haven’t seen anyone mention that out of all the names the composer could’ve had, they had Marion (like Marionette)
Dudeeeeee, if I was aware that The Fox Hunter’s Galop was a mystery people were trying to figure out just months before I would have helped because I heard this exact song on a carousel in St. Louis.
Like a previous person said, since the paper said it was for her father, that may not be the case. Either way, this is still good information! Whether a company or a singular person, seeing all their other work could help lead to who the original composer is!
These songs are traditional marching band/music box tunes. If a music box tune exists it most likely has a marching or a symphonic band counterpart. I didn't even know that Foxhunter's Gallop was lost media, it is commonly rearranged or reiterated in sightreading books for state wide mpas (Musical Professional Assessments). I would assist on finding sheet music but I don't have any access to my school's library lol. But I do hope this lead assist with findings. I recommend searching symphonic band version of the tunes and possibly finding someone who have access to that type of material. From a current Band student lol.
Id like to mention that It’s also common for these pieces to have NO NAME WHATSOEVER. me and another bass clarinet player usually have to play these classical pieces mostly cause the only available sheet music for our instrument are usually these kinds of pieces. Most of which assist of soloing the instrument. Even as of now I am practicing an etude with NO NAME so we have to figure out what it even sounds like since we have no base of it.
I knew I've heard it before!! Wasn't a band kid, but I was a choir student with a neighboring band class, and they played either this song or one very similar at some point.
now im trying to remember if we ever played this for an mpa, although my state only used music that was specifically written to be sight read at that mpa so it’s unlikely
Funny cause there is literally a character in FNAF named Emmet with two Ts in one of the books, and he's basically William Afton lol (so moral of the story: Never trust an Emmet with double Ts, trust the sweet adorable goofy goober Emmet with one T that sounds like Chris Pratt, bro would no doubt be a better fatha for Mike then William "I always come back" "The Man Behind The Slaughter" Purple Afton)
I remember digging for this on an old channel of mine (Shadow Source - those were the edgy days). I was trying to assign the proper names to all FNAF music at the time including from minigames, title screens and trailers, and I did. Thing was, I remember being distinctly fixated on finding the actual names for those two but having to settle with '1870 Swiss Music Box' and '1805 Swiss Music Snuff Box'. I'm glad to at least have an answer for Mangle's Quest.
2024 has been such a good year for lost music media. Two of the internet’s most iconic lost songs were found, f*cking *Mozart* had sheet music rediscovered, and now this random-ass fnaf music box song that most people wouldn’t even do a double-take on have been found.
17:55 this sounds like the one really iconic part of Tchaikovsky’s 1812 overture but not the exact song, it could be something like an ostinado or a leitmotif from that specific composer. I’ll look into this.
Might be a bit late to the party but the composer of the mangle music box song might be a woman called Marion Margaret Scott? She was a Musicologist and played the Piano and Violin! Sorry in advance if this lead is wrong, she was the only person I could find!
That name "The Fox Hunter's Galop" and how well it fits with Mangle's Quest is so genuinely nuts. It's not even just that it has "Fox" in the title, the entire song title could be used to denominate the green-shirted tubby kid running around in Mangle's quest, who presumably tears Mangle apart if he catches her.
Hearing the piano version actually gave me chills. The idea that this song was nearly lost to time, only to be resurrected by committed fans of the silly jumpscare bear game so that we could all hear it again as intended? …idk, the world is pretty cool sometimes, y’know?
Hey just so you know when dealing with old pages professionals suggest using clean dry ungloved hands. People are more likely to damage old paper with gloves than without.(Apparently its due to not being able to feel how you are interacting with the page properly)
If anyone is wanting to try going through the Lego Movie Videogame for some kind of a hint the area the music box is in is called Flatbush Gulch and all the songs on the soundtrack that have to do with that area are tracks 9 - 14 (The Old West Mission Theme, Flatbush Mission Theme, Saloon Honkey Tonk (Piano), The Old West Town Theme, FlatBush Rooftops-Escape From Flatbush Mission Theme, and Flatbush Rooftops Theme (Chase) ) I don't know if it would matter if it plays in the actual themes or not, and I honestly don't know shit about getting INSIDE a game's files to look around for the music's name, but maybe it'd be around these or something? Idk I figured the very least I could do by typing this out is share the tracks from the area to see if it helps. As far as composers go, none are listed for any kind of music box theme.
Chica’s Party, even without the vibes of FNaF 3, is just really off putting. The thing that makes it even more odd is that nobody currently knows what it even is
Since these seem to be from Swiss music boxes, has anyone done searches not in English, but rather in some of the Swiss languages like German? It might be worth doing since that’s where it would more likely be found in its original form. I’ve done plenty of searches before with Japanese translations to find things I couldn’t with an English search, so I have a good feeling that this would give at least SOME new results.
Something about the Mangle song being called "Fox Hunter's Gallop" is just, SO perfect, it makes me giddy. Like it's Mangle's own personal theme song. I have immense respect for your dedication to the research, and your knowledge of antique music is genuinely captivating
Its really cool that this community found and brought more accessible information forth about such an old and unknown song. Its a shame we couldn't find the full name of Marion but the fact that this information has been made more accessible at all is an accomplishment
I found this german song called "Fairy dance" and it has a melody kind of similar to this one but a lot more mellow and slow than the one that is heard in game. Maybe it's a song of german origin? (Edit: Found a german music box video that, when you speed it up to 2x, sounds kind of similar to the chica's party song aswell, probably nothing but it's worth checking)
Here's the music box song, which you should listen on 2x, it resembles a lot of the fnaf music boxes and after going on a huge rabbit hole of german folk songs I found it: th-cam.com/video/Wfy-YaxHuG0/w-d-xo.html
This is the first one I found, named fairy dance and from german origin: th-cam.com/video/PDzXMN8vboU/w-d-xo.html ik it probably sounds nothing like it but I'm including it since it lead me to finding the closest song to the original one
Could you imagine the devs of the Lego movie game actually had the name of the song on file somewhere lol. (I realize it might not be the same song and if it is they probably just used the same stock website Scott did, but it would be funny if they had the answers this whole time.)
OH MY GOD I PLAYED THE LEGO MOVIE VIDEO GAME! If I had played that level more often, I would have recognized the song and probably sent you the clip, but I was beaten to it.
It's so cool not only to find the song used in the Mangle minigame but also bringing new life into this old, nearly forgotten piece! I'm sure someone will do it soon but I would love to hear the version of the song with someone singing the lyrics that goes along with it! I'm sure Marion would be delighted knowing that her song still lives on!
Your investigation brought a song back from the dead. That's amazing. This wonderful little piece of music was loved enough to be physically imprinted on a music box, but from there it died. The last few copies of the sheet music rotting away, the music box known only by a collector. The tune in memory as a ghost, an old music box recording of something long gone. Now, someone has played it again. Now it is shared again, in something like its original form, for everyone to enjoy. For this brief moment in time, the song lives again. I love that.
So... one google search later and i found the Chicas party original song. I think... On a reddit post made 3 months ago, someone by the name of Joachim_7007 said to have found the original song to chicas party. The song in question, Birlin Reel (The Auld Wheel / Spinning Wheel / Bride's Reelmackenzie Frazer / Fairy Dance). Published on TH-cam by a Channel named: "J. Scott Skinner". I hope this Is the actuall song and i didnt write all this for nothing. Bye!
Haven't been invested in fnaf for a while but this grabbed my attention, chica's party sound maybe like a birthday song of sorts maybe something like 'Birthday waltz' or another like 'A dance for birth' or something odd like that but birthday *may* have a tie in, it could even be ballet related as the way I hear it seems to match with a song you would likely hear during a ballet performace, I am no expert nor rookie when it comes to music so take this with the equivalent of a himalayn salt lamp.
here i was hoping that this was an announcement that the chica song was discovered on that note, i wonder how much of the original piece might be discoverable in that second part that fnaf 3 doesn't use i.e. the part that is used is some kind of intro for the real song that is that second part. but someone who would have more expertise on 1800s compositions would be able to share more info on that.
This is so deeply fascinating and incredible to see! Restoring someones own musical creation that may have been completely lost both makes me deeply intrigued but so happy, especially since some of these musical tracks from FNAF feel nostalgic to me now. I have so much hope for Chica's musical theme now >:3!
Btw since we’re talking about the fnaf 3 music boxes: in the files of COD Black Ops 2, the same music from the end of fnaf 3 is there, apparently was going to be used in the zombies map Buried
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Out of all the OC storage site we have Toyhouse offers the most customisation and largest active userbase (last i checked) but again... shitass moderation...
damn... thought it might be a little too good to be true. i hope they get that shit sorted out, it sounds like it would be an incredible service without it.
hi! i'm one of unvale's founders; #1 isn't true. indigenous OCs are welcome on the platform, but (after many discussions within our team and with community members) we do not allow OCs that depict culturally-sensitive themes or folklore. this comes up the most with w*nd*gos. of course, we'd be open to talking through this and potentially changing our policy if needed, but the vast majority of our community supports our stance here. let me know if i can elaborate more, but i hope this brief response helps clear things up!
oh, #2 is kind of true, though! no NSFW at all. but we'd be happy to help you recover any content that was archived-- not sure where this statement is coming from? and FWIW, no one on our team has any problem with nipples, and we don't believe nipples are inherently sexual; our payment provider does not allow female-presenting nipples (which we think is dumb), so we don't allow ANY out of solidarity. again, LMK if i can help with clearing anything else up.
@@briunvale so if an someone post an oc who is part of THEIR culture but that you personally classify as "culturally sensitive" they can't post it? That sounds kinda eh to me personally.
honestly it's so awesome to be watching a video about the history of some obscure musical compositions from the 1800s and then remember oh yeah this is about fnaf
Chica's Party sounds kind of similar to William Tell Overture Finale, but none of the music box renditions sound that similar to it. I'll keep looking. Two people who might help are my grandfather and my choir teacher (possibly).
I still swear that Chica's party world sounds like the ice cream van from the place I grew up in Melbourne, Australia But I don't know the name of the company & I can't find anything on TH-cam. I've sent a message to my sister cuz she's more musical than I am to see if she can confirm Update: my sister says it's probably not the song. It just sounds incredibly similar. But it was a lot slower than even the slowed version of the song you can find. She also doesn't remember ever actually seeing the van she just heard the music occasionally
This is like a fucking SCP. It's a random piece of sheet music that has been lost to time, that one day reappears. Nobody knows who made it, all we know is that it exists. Sounds exactly like an SCP. Sorry to say it, but Biz, you might be cursed.
This year is being great so far: We found another piece of the Epic of Gilgamesh; We discovered a new song of Mozart; And now we unveiled one more mystery from FNAF!
@@wolfxd5049 yes, folk music tends to be passed down generationally. i’m not arguing about how old it is, i’m just saying folk songs are usually old as heck by definition
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i have no idea what that is so no
Does it matter anymore to find lost media and just milk it for views?
Ima hope & pray that the audio to sheet music conversion app I just used for Chica's Party is actually accurate & that my plan of posting the generated sheet music online will work; I don't know sh!t about music, so I'm hoping that I can get something from this. Also, Google Image searching screenshots didn't work on my end bc I just ended up getting more sheets that were just made from the app I used, seemingly no corelation besides that.
@@KennethV2000 ?
@@peashooterman3 It was the sponsor of the video IN the video, it actually sounds like a cool thing I'd check out despite myself not being an artist!
This isn’t just discovering FNaF lost media, it’s discovering lost historical music pieces, ones that sound really good at that, DJ pump that fox hunter song
yeah!! its super cool that a video game with the song helped spark a search into finding a historical music piece :D
indeed, stranger from hit indie rpg game omori
its like how mozart dropped a new piece this year. tbh i hope we uncover more lost classical music pieces like this
love the profile picture, stranger! -omori fan
It is fascinating that such old music can end up online, yet have their composer and even title forgotten. It’s almost poetic. The songs themselves are forever preserved on the internet, hundreds of copies on computers all over the globe. Yet they are only know for their sound. Nobody knows their names and their composer shares none of their fame. Their work remembered without them.
As someone who worked with antique paper in an archival job I just want to give a heads up that you should NOT actually be wearing gloves while handling paper items like that sheet music, actually. Gloves make your hands clumsier and the material can actually hurt the paper more - the best practice is actually to just use clean, dry hands!
Good to know! I will do so from now on 👍
Glad I’m not the only one who was thinking that
Sad to hear wearing gloves is now a complicated task that can hurt historical items, guess having fine motors skills is too much to ask nowadays.
@@rodrigocoockiemonster4460 ? What do you even mean by this?
@@nickiedarling360 i have no clue what bro was on about 😭😭
Ok, so the fact we finally found the name of the Mangle's Quest song was already amazing... but the fact it's literally called "The _Fox_ Hunter's Gallop"?? This must've been fate wanting to be a bit funny, hehehe 😂
Ok, that's pretty funny.
Now it's the hunting fox who gallops.
The children are the fox hunters.
The universe has a way to work out like that.
If you actually think about it... the fox hunters are the people who were chasing to find the song. Chasing, or "galloping."
The fact that a hunt for a FNAF song led to actual lost media being uncovered and preserved is amazing
Ikr?! It feels surreal
We all know that the “Marion” said to have composed “The Fox Hunters Gallop” was Marion Ette! Use your brain you silly Billy!
this is the best comment
cant wait for chica’s party song to be revealed to be “The Chicken Gathering” by Pup Ette the sister to Marion Ette
I was hoping someone would comment this
@@BayOfWulfimagine if you figure it out exactly💀
Night marion
The FNaF fandom finding a piece of music almost literally lost to time was not on my bingo card this year, nor was the Hello Neighbor movie being announced but we take these I guess?
The what
No, please no more hello neighbor
Damn, I wonder how they're gonna incorporate the neighbor refusing to get on the bed to capture you among all the other glitches/weird things in the game
Although, if a had to guess it'll probably be on the books rather than actual games
@@IrregularityRowanI want to fucking see the movie having visual bugs and a shitload of clippings
WHAT??
What about The Most Mysterious Song On The Internet being identified on Election Day?
(It’s called subways of our mind)
SOCAN isn't a production company. It's a rights managing organization for Canadian music creators (Like ASCAP or BMI). You're not going to get anything meaningful out of them because they won't share that kind of information with non-rights holders.
Thank you! Was just about to type that
SOCAN my d
@@JacobRogers-f8sim gonna suplex you into the mantle
Tell them we need it for Fnaf lore, they'll cave
@@JacobRogers-f8swait so chica party is in canadia??!🤯🤯🤯😱😱
For anyone who's participated in the search, has anyone tried transcribing the Chica song (turning it into sheet music)? That'd help a lot in ruling out songs that don't exactly match. If Biz sees this, I can make a transcription if no one else has.
Please make the sheet music, it’d help a lot.
Do it
@@HB81509 Done, I'll send it to her but it's immediately helped me rule out many other pieces people have suspected.
this is actually a really good idea! hopefully biz does see this because this could possibly lead to some groundbreaking info 😭
Yes, please!! It would help a lot if you did a transcription of the music sheet!!
It's crazy to think that some compsers and songs from the 1800s are only remembered because of a game about a purple man kills kids and haunts him
Yep lol
Yea
There are strange times
this is lore significant it will be revealed in 2037
my left nut hurts
Marion is the Mimic confirmed
my left nut is unusual
gonna bring mat out of retirement again
my left nut is wide
seeing people try to find the original sources to files in games gives me flashbacks to that time somebody found out a texture in half-life 2 that originated from a real dead body
HUH????
yup! all the corpses in half life 2 are *real* :’)
@@abyssofinfinitevoid7870the burned corpse model in half life 2 uses real pictures of a burned body
@@abyssofinfinitevoid7870 As others said, the corpse model with a burnt face was modeled after an image of a REAL corpse. This has also almost been the case with the infected from Left 4 Dead. Valve is VERY particular about such details.
@@abyssofinfinitevoid7870 I’ve seen blurred pics of the actual corpse, even blurred it’s… a lot. It’s an interesting story but don’t search it if that stuff really really upsets you. I refuse to search the uncensored picture.
I think it's really cool how you managed to put this rather obcure song back into the public concious.
Marion, who ever she was, would be thrilled.
Oh to imagine trying to explain why Marion's song has gained incredibly niche revival so many years after she's died.
I think she'd be able to solve FNaF.
That was my thought too! Her ghost was probably so confused that her song is being played and listened to again!
It’s a shame we don’t know her last name (presumably) because I’d really like to know more about her and what else she composed
The especially funny bit is that it's not just "Fox" in the title, it's "The Fox Hunter's Gallop" and in the minigame the kid is running back and forth hunting mangle to take apart
one could argue that the child is galloping
NO WAY THEY FOUND THE MANGLE MUSIC BOX SONG???
THEY FOUND IT!!!!!
no this video was actually a really late April fools video (/j if it wasn't obvious)
where the hell did u guys come from
@@beanybabysnail8576 the video
Tf meepswonder found it not us😂
7:24 the name is also ironic cus your hunting pieces of Mangle the Fox/endoskeleton/thing [Fox Hunters Galop] as a side note i could 100% see mangle only being able to galop due to how many limbs they have :+
The puppet music box is written by a guy named Henry
Scott cawthon unintentional lore??
I head cannon that galloping would be easier for mangle than walking. like how when you walk down a hill you end up speed walking, but instead of being from the angle it's because her legs are wack
that actually sounds pretty cute! now i’m just picturing mangle galloping around
But it's the fox-hunter's gallop not the fox's gallop
It's not even just that the mangle song has fox in the title, the minigame's antagonist is chasing a fox (mangle) to try and take it apart (hunt it). The enemy of this minigame is a fox hunter, and this minigame is his galop.
What I’ve heard is that people can’t claim copyright to music,
as in there shouldn’t be anything stopping anyone from playing the sheet music,
and someone transcribing the original song into a form of sheet music and someone else playing an instrument based on the transcribed music shouldn’t matter (neither should someone playing the song themselves after hearing someone else’s recording),
but taking a person’s recording of them playing the song and someone else playing that recording for commercial purposes means that the person recorded can demand the person using the recording to pay them.
The performance recording can be copyrighted.
The song originated from The Lego Move Video Game, but Scott jumped into a Time Traveling Ballpit and stole the song.
The LEGO Movie Videogame released in 2014, and Five Nights at Freddy's 3 in 2015. No need for time-travel.
@@DeianPeraltaRovira He used time travel to cover his tracks
i forgot that fnaf was 10 years old and then i heard "a 9 year old five nights at freddy's mystery has been solved" and my hair started to turn gray and i got wrinkles all over my face and got back pain
How I felt:👴
The entry in the national library said “performed by all the military bands” which heavily implies its originally a composition for military band that was transcribed over to piano. This was before recording songs were possible, so all popular songs and many more were transcribed to piano so it could be played in the home. There is of course a possibility that the song was originally for piano, but I find that unlikely. At the very least I think we should be careful calling the piano version “the original”, at least just yet
What most terrifies me is that those song are so obscure, like there’s practically no origins, and when I listen again with that idea in mind it giving me chills
13:20 NOT THE CANDACE PARTY REFERENCE. "it's not a party is an intimate get together, CHICAS PARTY, CHICAS PARTY"
It jumpscared me XD
subtly foreshadowed at 1:50
l legit lost it when that was said 😭
OH MY GODS FINALY, I have an old arse porcelain bird music box completely unlabeled that sounds EXACTLY like mangles quest and it drove me mad that I couldn't figure out where it came from-
it materialized in your house ofc
Could you record it and post it? I think it would be neat to have another music box recording preserved online :)
Yes, please upload a video if possible!!
I FUCKING LOVE people finding obscure shit and then PRESERVING it instead of giving up or just being like "well we found it. Sucks it's so obscure"
Ndowhdosbsb- I could squeeze you im so happy
As a musician, fnaf fan, and lost media enthusiast, this is an incredible discovery!!
Yooo same!
12:37
as the one who initially added fox hunter's galop to the fnaf wiki i lowkey shoved my hands into my face out of embarrassment when i heard this- i don't even know why, someone else at the wiki already fixed it and it wasn't my fault for not knowing but like mannnn 😭😭😭
A possible reason the “Fox-Hunter’s Gallop” is pitched down could be because they stock album company wanted to copyright it. An old music box disc like that has fallen out of copyright, so the music on could not be copyrighted. But taking a recording and playing with the pitch, could.
That wouldn't be necessary, any recording of public domain music can be copyrighted regardless of changes.
Everyone’s mentioning how funny it is that the piece’s called The Fox Hunter’s Gallop, but I haven’t seen anyone mention that out of all the names the composer could’ve had, they had Marion (like Marionette)
Dudeeeeee, if I was aware that The Fox Hunter’s Galop was a mystery people were trying to figure out just months before I would have helped because I heard this exact song on a carousel in St. Louis.
My great grandma had a lot of old sheet music and i remember seeing Marion a lot. Are you sure Marion wasnt a company or publisher?
That’s very possible, it could be something like Hal Leonard
No?
It was composed for her father....
publishing companies don't tend to have dads.
Like a previous person said, since the paper said it was for her father, that may not be the case. Either way, this is still good information! Whether a company or a singular person, seeing all their other work could help lead to who the original composer is!
@@henryapplebottom7231 parent company
Dang! So much lost media found recently, first the Backrooms, then the “Like the Wind” song, and now this. What a year for solving old legends!
Jtk before the end of the year
this year for found media has been insane
literally, nothing will top the most mysterious song being found....2024 best year for found media
"eh another boring sponsor"
>deviantart competitor
>anti-ai
>interesting features
>supports artists making money
"nevermind this sounds awesome"
I think Unvale still needs some work, the website feels a little janky and _very_ sanitized imo
its a younger toyhouse
NOT deviantart
Still, ain’t trusting sponsors
@@Robot345t fair
@jademonass2954 yeah I'm sticking with th, I'm sure uv is a fine site but I'll wait a few years until I know it's worth it to join
I cannot wait to 9-Year-Old Piece of FNAF Lost Media for the next 22 minutes and 55 seconds.
These songs are traditional marching band/music box tunes. If a music box tune exists it most likely has a marching or a symphonic band counterpart. I didn't even know that Foxhunter's Gallop was lost media, it is commonly rearranged or reiterated in sightreading books for state wide mpas (Musical Professional Assessments). I would assist on finding sheet music but I don't have any access to my school's library lol. But I do hope this lead assist with findings. I recommend searching symphonic band version of the tunes and possibly finding someone who have access to that type of material. From a current Band student lol.
Id like to mention that It’s also common for these pieces to have NO NAME WHATSOEVER. me and another bass clarinet player usually have to play these classical pieces mostly cause the only available sheet music for our instrument are usually these kinds of pieces. Most of which assist of soloing the instrument. Even as of now I am practicing an etude with NO NAME so we have to figure out what it even sounds like since we have no base of it.
I knew I've heard it before!! Wasn't a band kid, but I was a choir student with a neighboring band class, and they played either this song or one very similar at some point.
now im trying to remember if we ever played this for an mpa, although my state only used music that was specifically written to be sight read at that mpa so it’s unlikely
@ yeah here in Florida it’s completely different. We use different pieces from so many different time periods
Oh god, I hadn't realised it was 9 whole years... this is great news though!!
20:52 whaaaaat, I played that game when I was like 5 I never thought I’d see it again
YOOOOO SAMEEEE
Funny cause there is literally a character in FNAF named Emmet with two Ts in one of the books, and he's basically William Afton lol (so moral of the story: Never trust an Emmet with double Ts, trust the sweet adorable goofy goober Emmet with one T that sounds like Chris Pratt, bro would no doubt be a better fatha for Mike then William "I always come back" "The Man Behind The Slaughter" Purple Afton)
wait, do you know what scene that is?
I remember digging for this on an old channel of mine (Shadow Source - those were the edgy days). I was trying to assign the proper names to all FNAF music at the time including from minigames, title screens and trailers, and I did. Thing was, I remember being distinctly fixated on finding the actual names for those two but having to settle with '1870 Swiss Music Box' and '1805 Swiss Music Snuff Box'. I'm glad to at least have an answer for Mangle's Quest.
2024 has been such a good year for lost music media. Two of the internet’s most iconic lost songs were found, f*cking *Mozart* had sheet music rediscovered, and now this random-ass fnaf music box song that most people wouldn’t even do a double-take on have been found.
17:55 this sounds like the one really iconic part of Tchaikovsky’s 1812 overture but not the exact song, it could be something like an ostinado or a leitmotif from that specific composer. I’ll look into this.
PLEASE LMK IF YOU FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES SOUND LIKE IT!
Might be a bit late to the party but the composer of the mangle music box song might be a woman called Marion Margaret Scott? She was a Musicologist and played the Piano and Violin! Sorry in advance if this lead is wrong, she was the only person I could find!
Insane coincidence how the song that chosen for the mini game where you play as a fox running away from a kid is called "The Fox Hunters Galop"
That name "The Fox Hunter's Galop" and how well it fits with Mangle's Quest is so genuinely nuts. It's not even just that it has "Fox" in the title, the entire song title could be used to denominate the green-shirted tubby kid running around in Mangle's quest, who presumably tears Mangle apart if he catches her.
20:48 Also in Lego City Undercover they used the exact same music box sound of the Toreador song that Freddy plays
2:07 AI Art really IS the definition of the SpongeBob stinky sound
What’s strange is that my social studies teacher played “the fox hunt Gallop” during class for a lesson on old song
Ask them about Chica's Party
I- I'M SORRY BUT--
"Orientation" Usually upright" IS SO FUNNY TO ME, YOU'RE THE ONLY TH-camR THAT MAKES ME WATCH THE WHOLE AD
Hearing the piano version actually gave me chills. The idea that this song was nearly lost to time, only to be resurrected by committed fans of the silly jumpscare bear game so that we could all hear it again as intended? …idk, the world is pretty cool sometimes, y’know?
this is so real.
thank you for reminding me how fucking panic enducing the chica's party music really is
9:15 I like how it sounds like horses galloping
Bizabizow more like findinglostmediaizow
Hey just so you know when dealing with old pages professionals suggest using clean dry ungloved hands. People are more likely to damage old paper with gloves than without.(Apparently its due to not being able to feel how you are interacting with the page properly)
If anyone is wanting to try going through the Lego Movie Videogame for some kind of a hint the area the music box is in is called Flatbush Gulch and all the songs on the soundtrack that have to do with that area are tracks 9 - 14 (The Old West Mission Theme, Flatbush Mission Theme, Saloon Honkey Tonk (Piano), The Old West Town Theme, FlatBush Rooftops-Escape From Flatbush Mission Theme, and Flatbush Rooftops Theme (Chase) ) I don't know if it would matter if it plays in the actual themes or not, and I honestly don't know shit about getting INSIDE a game's files to look around for the music's name, but maybe it'd be around these or something? Idk I figured the very least I could do by typing this out is share the tracks from the area to see if it helps. As far as composers go, none are listed for any kind of music box theme.
It's probably the most exact same stock piece.
@henryapplebottom7231 honestly yeah it probably is but I thought it might not hurt to say something just in case
Chica’s Party, even without the vibes of FNaF 3, is just really off putting. The thing that makes it even more odd is that nobody currently knows what it even is
Since these seem to be from Swiss music boxes, has anyone done searches not in English, but rather in some of the Swiss languages like German? It might be worth doing since that’s where it would more likely be found in its original form.
I’ve done plenty of searches before with Japanese translations to find things I couldn’t with an English search, so I have a good feeling that this would give at least SOME new results.
Something about the Mangle song being called "Fox Hunter's Gallop" is just, SO perfect, it makes me giddy. Like it's Mangle's own personal theme song.
I have immense respect for your dedication to the research, and your knowledge of antique music is genuinely captivating
16:30 That was FOUL! I was drinking, how dare you make me almost do a spit take. 😂
Its really cool that this community found and brought more accessible information forth about such an old and unknown song. Its a shame we couldn't find the full name of Marion but the fact that this information has been made more accessible at all is an accomplishment
I found this german song called "Fairy dance" and it has a melody kind of similar to this one but a lot more mellow and slow than the one that is heard in game. Maybe it's a song of german origin?
(Edit: Found a german music box video that, when you speed it up to 2x, sounds kind of similar to the chica's party song aswell, probably nothing but it's worth checking)
link?
Please post a link, or at least the channel name
you can'T just drop this and not give the last part of the yt url
Here's the music box song, which you should listen on 2x, it resembles a lot of the fnaf music boxes and after going on a huge rabbit hole of german folk songs I found it: th-cam.com/video/Wfy-YaxHuG0/w-d-xo.html
This is the first one I found, named fairy dance and from german origin: th-cam.com/video/PDzXMN8vboU/w-d-xo.html ik it probably sounds nothing like it but I'm including it since it lead me to finding the closest song to the original one
mangle music box, uterior motives, and like a wind in one year...
Could you imagine the devs of the Lego movie game actually had the name of the song on file somewhere lol. (I realize it might not be the same song and if it is they probably just used the same stock website Scott did, but it would be funny if they had the answers this whole time.)
Great video, Ty!
Perhaps you could also try to find the origins of certain FNaF jumpscare sounds. (The SL, FFPS ones and Fredbear’s in UCN)
It was found before fnaf 2 came out. it's the scream of a woman giving birth to a monster from a horror film, slightly edited
@@mostnobleancient9297 I didn't mention the FNaF 2 or FNaF 1 ones.
Read the comment *fully*
Freddy Pazbears Pizza Simulator
@ Fixed it
So... What you're saying is that Five Nights at Freddy's. An indie horror game helped save a song from going media extinct?
There are multiple fairy dances! I went down a rabbithole and found around 3 of them. The one by nathaniel gow is NOT chica's song.
OH MY GOD I PLAYED THE LEGO MOVIE VIDEO GAME! If I had played that level more often, I would have recognized the song and probably sent you the clip, but I was beaten to it.
It's so cool not only to find the song used in the Mangle minigame but also bringing new life into this old, nearly forgotten piece!
I'm sure someone will do it soon but I would love to hear the version of the song with someone singing the lyrics that goes along with it!
I'm sure Marion would be delighted knowing that her song still lives on!
Your investigation brought a song back from the dead. That's amazing. This wonderful little piece of music was loved enough to be physically imprinted on a music box, but from there it died. The last few copies of the sheet music rotting away, the music box known only by a collector. The tune in memory as a ghost, an old music box recording of something long gone.
Now, someone has played it again. Now it is shared again, in something like its original form, for everyone to enjoy. For this brief moment in time, the song lives again. I love that.
The fact that I know what this is about enough to get excited shows my mental state
3:58 LOOK GARY THERE I AM
This is the type of thing that a random little kid would have but not have internet access to release it
So... one google search later and i found the Chicas party original song. I think...
On a reddit post made 3 months ago, someone by the name of Joachim_7007 said to have found the original song to chicas party. The song in question, Birlin Reel (The Auld Wheel / Spinning Wheel / Bride's Reelmackenzie Frazer / Fairy Dance). Published on TH-cam by a Channel named: "J. Scott Skinner".
I hope this Is the actuall song and i didnt write all this for nothing. Bye!
I don't think that's it. I listened to it and, at least to me, it doesn't seem to match.
The middle section sounds pretty close!
Haven't been invested in fnaf for a while but this grabbed my attention, chica's party sound maybe like a birthday song of sorts maybe something like 'Birthday waltz' or another like 'A dance for birth' or something odd like that but birthday *may* have a tie in, it could even be ballet related as the way I hear it seems to match with a song you would likely hear during a ballet performace, I am no expert nor rookie when it comes to music so take this with the equivalent of a himalayn salt lamp.
here i was hoping that this was an announcement that the chica song was discovered
on that note, i wonder how much of the original piece might be discoverable in that second part that fnaf 3 doesn't use i.e. the part that is used is some kind of intro for the real song that is that second part. but someone who would have more expertise on 1800s compositions would be able to share more info on that.
I think the chicas party music is terrifying, perhaps just the lost media allure
can't wait for fan songs to incorporate these titles into their lyrics
This is so deeply fascinating and incredible to see!
Restoring someones own musical creation that may have been completely lost both makes me deeply intrigued but so happy, especially since some of these musical tracks from FNAF feel nostalgic to me now.
I have so much hope for Chica's musical theme now >:3!
Chicas intimate get together invitations will never be found 💔
Mother's organ music- fairy dance. Sound like maybe an audio sample for chica song was someone cranking the music box too fast
Or not idk just my best guess
the most mysterious song on the internet is discovered and now this???
we're just finding gold rn
Btw since we’re talking about the fnaf 3 music boxes: in the files of COD Black Ops 2, the same music from the end of fnaf 3 is there, apparently was going to be used in the zombies map Buried
0:50 the song is called : 1870 Swiss Music Box with Bells
(Parlor Music) if you forgot:>
Unfun facts about Unvale:
1) according to testimonies I've seen on TH Indigenous OC are banned on their site for some fucking reason? (quoted from a TH posts: "the mods were harassing indigenous people for making indigenous characters because apparently that was part of their stupid TOS to ban those OCs")
2) It's doesn't allow NSFW AT ALL (even tho the site started out as 18+ only iirc?) so you wont be allowed to archive all your OC's art if they happen to have nsfw content (even if it's as tame a nipples of any gender shown on a ref sheet and has nothing sexual going on)
Out of all the OC storage site we have Toyhouse offers the most customisation and largest active userbase (last i checked) but again... shitass moderation...
damn... thought it might be a little too good to be true. i hope they get that shit sorted out, it sounds like it would be an incredible service without it.
hi! i'm one of unvale's founders; #1 isn't true. indigenous OCs are welcome on the platform, but (after many discussions within our team and with community members) we do not allow OCs that depict culturally-sensitive themes or folklore. this comes up the most with w*nd*gos. of course, we'd be open to talking through this and potentially changing our policy if needed, but the vast majority of our community supports our stance here. let me know if i can elaborate more, but i hope this brief response helps clear things up!
oh, #2 is kind of true, though! no NSFW at all. but we'd be happy to help you recover any content that was archived-- not sure where this statement is coming from? and FWIW, no one on our team has any problem with nipples, and we don't believe nipples are inherently sexual; our payment provider does not allow female-presenting nipples (which we think is dumb), so we don't allow ANY out of solidarity. again, LMK if i can help with clearing anything else up.
@@briunvale so if an someone post an oc who is part of THEIR culture but that you personally classify as "culturally sensitive" they can't post it? That sounds kinda eh to me personally.
2024 is the year of finding lost media
i cant be the only one that misread it as; "a 9-year-old has found a piece of fnaf lost media" right?
That would’ve been hilarious
I hope Scott sees this. Puts in the lore that there’s a Raynard and Marion in Mangle or something.
19:05 Mobile Suit Gundam mentioned (not really mentioned, but at the very least shown on screen)
plot twist that Scott is a huge weeb/mecha fan and pulled it from a Gundam video game
honestly it's so awesome to be watching a video about the history of some obscure musical compositions from the 1800s and then remember oh yeah this is about fnaf
The fandom when it comes to finding and solving this obscure stuff is so wholesome and amazing and I appreciate EVERYONE'S hard work!!
Chica's Party sounds kind of similar to William Tell Overture Finale, but none of the music box renditions sound that similar to it. I'll keep looking. Two people who might help are my grandfather and my choir teacher (possibly).
I still swear that Chica's party world sounds like the ice cream van from the place I grew up in Melbourne, Australia
But I don't know the name of the company & I can't find anything on TH-cam.
I've sent a message to my sister cuz she's more musical than I am to see if she can confirm
Update: my sister says it's probably not the song. It just sounds incredibly similar. But it was a lot slower than even the slowed version of the song you can find. She also doesn't remember ever actually seeing the van she just heard the music occasionally
This is like a fucking SCP. It's a random piece of sheet music that has been lost to time, that one day reappears. Nobody knows who made it, all we know is that it exists. Sounds exactly like an SCP. Sorry to say it, but Biz, you might be cursed.
✨️LOST MEDIA✨️
Well not anyMOR
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It's fantastic seeing passionate fans come together, dusting off old forgotten history and preserving the things they love.
Lovely to see the photos being hosted in File garden. The Homestuck fungus is already taking a hold of your mind!
Just wait till these sophisticated gentlemen and gentlewoman find out this discovery was for a video game about murderous bears…
This year is being great so far:
We found another piece of the Epic of Gilgamesh;
We discovered a new song of Mozart;
And now we unveiled one more mystery from FNAF!
YOU FOUND MANGLES PRONOUNS????
I also highly recommend Cara as well as unvale for any artists who are anti-ai and anti art-theft
I HAD THE Chico music box one but I broke it when I was a child. It was really really old so pretty sure it’s nota folk song…..?????
folk songs can be very, very old, so i wouldn’t say that rules it out
@ i probably should’ve said it, but I got it from my grandpa who got it from his dad soooo I don’t know but I personally don’t think it’s a folk song
@@wolfxd5049 yes, folk music tends to be passed down generationally. i’m not arguing about how old it is, i’m just saying folk songs are usually old as heck by definition