How To Plan A Bicycle Adventure Using Komoot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- This video is about how I use different apps to navigate. My favorite is Komoot, it's great for finding off-road routes. I also like Google Maps for navigating in cities.
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Hope you found this helpful...What are some of your favorite ways to navigate?
I hope you're feeling better bro.
I like what you said.. Ask locals for directions or what's a good place to camp, eats or historical sights.. Leave room for side trips😀
Very useful, thanks!
I have been using Ride with GPS and it has been great! Many of the same functions as Kamoot.
Thank you for another great Duzer biking tip.
One of my favourite functions of komoot: you can download your route on your mobile so that you can navigate without any connection or wifi...
Good point!
In response to your point about distracted driving, I plead that cyclists also avoid that trap. I’ve had an accident when a fellow cyclist I was passing did not hear me when I passed her. She veered left into me, causing me to fall into a sign on the side of the road. She failed to hear my announcement of my intent to pass because she was listening to music on earphones. Fortunately the worst injuries either of us suffered were some minor road rash. Please don’t let technology or any other distractions dominate your experience of being on the road or trail. You may save yourself and others an accident.
Well said! We all need to be more mindful of other pedestrians…but especially people driving cars, cause those things cause a lot more than road rash.
I hate the use of earbuds while riding. I've had to scream at people to move. That is selfish, irresponsible, inconsiderate and unacceptable behavior.
@@outbackwack368 Use a harsh bike bell. It is loud and easily distinguishable. The wind carries away your voice much more than a bell. Also, with a harsh bell the intended listener immediately knows a bicycle is approaching.
Without knowing the incident in any detail ….. Maybe pass other cyclists like you expect a car to pass you. With plenty of safety margin.
@@davidalderson7761 When I announced my intention to pass, she moved right, so I assumed she heard me. It turned out she had not, and was just setting up for a wide left turn. Now this is all a while ago, but I bring it up only because cyclists can be distracted as well. I am just urging everyone to be aware of surroundings and situations and minimize distractions that compete for attention. I’ve been guilty of that myself, and I recognize that I have gotten away with it, but luck won’t always be on my side. The club rides I participate in ban ear phone use, and my experience makes me agree with that rule.
A handy Google Maps tip: View the critical turn points (waypoints) on Street View prior to your ride and look for things like a store you will recognize, post office etc. When you are on the road, you will remember how the turn looks after seeing it on your computer screen. Most images are quite recent, and many times during a cycling outing, there's just a few turns to remember if you are out in a rural setting. When a place looks familiar, you don't need to look at the bike head unit.
Good call!!
I just got a Wahoo Roam and just beginning to play with it. Like you, I’m not very techy so I hope you’re right that it’s easy to use. I will give Kamoot a look at. If it works for you I’m sure it will do whatever I need. Thanks!
Nice!! I think that you’ll love the Roam
i refuse to ride on the road these days unless it is an extremely rural and low traffic road. it just is not worth the risk. the biggest issue is that drivers dont care, even if they hit a cyclist they most likely wont stop to help.
Sad but true, and if they do stop or even get cited by the police, they rarely get punished
I have had a few close calls while running where I was on the side of a narrow road and a bicyclist was going past me and a car decided to pass the cyclist and I was thinking about stepping into the road and there was no space so I always look before I jump and still the thought of having not paying attention shocked me.
You have to be vigilant and look around the same as you would cross at a light. I see a lot of people holding their cell phones while driving and I don't understand why they don't drive and pay attention. And I see bicyclists texting, hands off the handlebars, no way of Immediately braking if a dog or cat should dart in front. I won't pass a bicycle if I think it is not safe. I don't want to surprise people and when I ride I won't ride in the middle of the lane. I also ride with flat pedals, no clipless, just because traffic conditions are precarious. I think some people who ride road bikes don't want to risk flats and stay off the bike paths.
I read bicycle deaths are increasing within the last few years and I believe Ebikes are a problem because a lot, not all, are new to cycling and ride too fast for the conditions of the path, road, etc.
It can be a war zone just getting out but at age 56, years of bicycle commuting, I have focused on commuting and not competing. A lot of people, driving cars, bicycling, walking like zombies with cell phones, ear buds, and not paying attention, are at risk of getting hurt, severely at times.
I bike tour, also, and respecting every type of traffic, and paying attention, will save lives.
A nice bell is important. Ching Ching .
I use Komoot too, besides it can download the whole ride for 'no signal' area, you can just switch on voice -for-directions only and turn off the screen to save on power.
Good point!
Hi Ryan, I found one thing in your video misleading. You said that komoot was free and does the trick w/o Premium. Planning indeed is free, but I think that turn-by-turn navigation or export to a GPS device are paid services, which are included in the Premium subscription, or alternatively, can be unlocked permanently in specific regions for a small fee.
Nevertheless, I am a big fan of komoot (I use it with Garmin), I recommend it to everyone. The best investment I made there was permanently unlocking navigation in the whole world (for a single payment), but I do not know if this option is still offered since the introduction of Premium.
whoops, my bad
Komoot is awesome. I used it for about 60% of my coast to coast USA trip. It has a live tracking feature so your nervous fam can keep tabs on you.
My one complaint was that on more than one occasion it took me on a route that was clearly barred by no trespassing signs, so I had to backtrack and use Google.
Great Stuff.. Distracted drivers will always be a concern.. I love gravel roads.. Always wanting to improve my navigation skills.. Komoot has lots of options.. I'll have to take a look..
I think you’ll like it
Thumbs up Mr. Van Duzer. I’ve been using Ride With GPS to plan my routes. Yet, it doesn’t seem to take auto traffic into account when it auto routes. I’m going to give Komoot, and the other route planners, a good look this season.
Hello Ryan.. hope you are still well.. :). you might mention that Komoot routes are not set up for Road cycle touring.. Expecially when you are riding a recumbent trike.. Komoot will often direct you to a path with flights of stairs (without waning about stairs). Most bicycle riders simply pick up the bike and carry it on the flights of steps.. So warnings are not necessary.. But after riding 100 miles, to find a flight of steps on a recumbent trike, that is called a dead end.. Komoot has road conditions: gravel, single track, paved etc.. So why not stairs or stair avoidance settings.? just something to be aware of. :). PEACE
Good to know. Thanks for the heads up
Really hope this is a hint for a Sweden trip! Even if that route would miss some cool places :)
Yeah I wonder if going inland through Ostersund would have better scenery. I remember driving there years ago and it was beautiful.
Great stuff as always Ryan. Quick question: What’s the best way to charge your electronics, phone, bike computer, etc.. WHILE on the bike? I know solar is an option. What about chargers that generate the change from your bike wheel? And experience with those?
I use a power bank, I had a dynamo hub once, but it didn't generate enough power. I charge my bank every few days at hotels or restaurants
@@duzer Thanks Ryan. That’s what I was thinking..after I sent my question. Power bank it is!!
Totally agree with everything and I have just used a Komoot/Garmin combination for Lejog. A really key point is phone battery life which really makes a phone highly unsuitable for long rides. However, like Ryan I would briefly open Komoot on my phone to look at a better map if I was unsure. I also used Google Maps on my phone to navigate to off route points e.g. a bike shop or a camp site. Much easier than messing about with my Garmin
There are ways to stretch the phone's battery life. Just by changing settings...greyscale, reduce screen brightness, put it in airplane mode, and a few others, my monster Note 10+ can go 2.5 days on a charge. With my 26,500mAh battery bank, I've gone a solid week and a half, and still had juice left. There may be options that fit other folks better, but to me this phone cost so much I'm gonna use the dang thing any way I can, rather than buy yet another device. That said, satellite comms and SOS button would sure be nice...but it works well for nav, even with no signal, provided you pre-downloaded your maps.
I use my old (and smaller) phone on my bars for navigation. I only turn on the screen when I need to, this way it lasts for ages. Sure, a bike computer would be awesome, and i'm gonna get one some day, I just can't swallow the price tag right now. They're essentially dumb smartphones for like 3x the price.
I really hope someone somewhere is going to come out with a cheapo bike computer in the near future, because you can get such good smartphones today for like a 100 bucks. These 300$ Wahoos and Garmins are ridiculous IMO. I spend plenty of $ on bike stuff, but I just can't swallow that somehow.
I've just discovered that Trailforks can be used offline & has a nice map
Love Komoot. I have a paid subscription. So easy to make a route AND change it easily on your desktop if you wish, to share your routes with your friends, etc., and it's nice to know when the terrain changes on your route -- Komoot provides you this info.
Yep! It's solid!
Thanks Dr. Ryan,....great info, love it.
Some of my best days was when I was lost though.🤟
I agree!
My motto for 2022 is make no plans and just allow the universe to happen to me🙏🌍🌈 (currently 4wks in sitting in BOG squat nowhere ATM and loving it, Merriwa NSW Australia 🤠)
At 53 and a technophobe, that kamoot and wahoos look great 👍 but love asking locals for advice.
Informative and interesting plus getting a bit over "Bonus miles"
Piece 🌍 love 🌈 and beans for All 🤠
P.T
Never u
I say no where to go and all day to get there
I've been using Komoot for several years now on my phone with navigation commands in conjunction with a pair of Aftershokz bone conduction earphones. This means I can switch the screen off on the phone saving battery life and the bone conduction earphones mean I can still hear traffic etc. With voice commands only from the navigation both phone and earphone batteries last all day. I find using the bike computer screen for navigation too challenging to read, it's an age thing, whilst also trying to keep an eye on the road ahead
So helpful man. Thank you! Me, my bike, the road...I'm overdue.
I am using Komoot to plan rides. I love the elevation profile, but my main frustration is that I can't see road names and numbers without zooming way in. Am I missing something?
Not everytime google will give you bike route. I've been trying google maps here in middle east and for super short rides yes it will give you but for more than 30km it is not gonna give you route.
Buenos dias we puertorican never get lost we just get out of route lol
Excellente!
@@duzer si nos perdemos es cuando nos salimos de ruta es jugando sarcasmo amigo
swapped to RideWithGPS. seems to run better on my old computer, basicly everythings the same as komoot. komoot was lagging all over the place. Komoot sound like "Kom ut" in swedish, meaning Come out!
Nice, Ride with GPS is great too
Ryan.. i was hit by a woman driver that ran a red light while TEXTING AND DRIVING.. She said to the officer, "i looked up, was blinded by the sun, noticed the light was red, and something hit me". I got that confession on video tape, always video tape your rides and or interactions with drivers who hit you.. My attorney subpoenaed her phone records at the time on my video where i was going thru the green light. Because this collision cost more than $70k (injury/damage/attorney fees and court cost) in Oregon, Texting and Driving is the equivalent of Drinking and Driving.. it was a mandatory 1 year in jail for her. Always video tape rides/conversations/police interactions, then get a damn good lawyer if someone causes a collision (never use the word "accidents" because that implies NoFault). Know the steps you need to take after a collision.. If i hadn't, i would still be paying off over $70k on a collision that was not my fault. And always use a good helmet like a SmithOptics with koyroid and MIPS. I would have died that day had i not had a very good helmet.
Have you ever seen pro boxers or MMA fighters touch fist throughout the match? It's because they've taken so many blows to the head their depth perception is..."off"😵💫. Touching gloves or fist lets them know exactly how far away they are from each other. THIS...is what I need from a GPS!
Bicycle shop, market, hotels, medical, and first Responders should be nothing more than a tap of the fingertip away. Also I'd love it if the GPS tapped into local weather forecast without having to be told. Alerts letting me know a downpour is 30 minutes away on my current trajectory would be very beneficial and I might want to choose to drop anchor and set up camp for the night while it's still dry.
Apps are okay I guess, but the truth is I hate using them. It's like Americans have simply surrender their fourth amendment rights and have given up their expectation of privacy just for the ease of convenience. I'd rather use a GPS device that's not linked to every keystroke I make on my phone. In every terms of use disclaimer I've ever read "TRUSTED PARTNERS" was nothing more than jargon for handing over your personal data to the government for big profits.
Cool video Duzer 😎👍
Cool app but does it support maps in South Africa 🇿🇦
As most of the apps dont support worldwide countries inc
Trail Forks
hello sir i love biking also and using my navigation where im going to bike ilove bike adventure and travel
Komoot is good BUT when u download gpx file it asks u for a map region to select after u have selected one region it then asks u to pay 7.99 euro to pay for another region or u pay 30 bucks for the whole earth i cant afford to do thtta so how do we download gpx file wihtout paying for these map regions its too expensive..
Off topic but do you read from a script during these videos? Just wondering!
Thanks Ryan for another awesome video! I have a quick question‼️: have you ever heard of bamboo bikes? I just found out about them and seems like a fun DIY project to look into. They sell kits online and in the future I may buy one since my current bike is probably going to break soon. Seems more sustainable to have a bike made of bamboo! Have a great day 😁!
A gps navigation device, as the wahoo or garmin, are very expensive and have a small screen. Why not get another phone (with a large battery and rugged) instead? That way you can navigate with your preferred app.
Hey Ryan. Recently created my own Tahoe Twirl route on Komoots but when I went to sync it to my Element it said the route was too big and it couldnt give me turn by turn directions. Did I do something wrong?
Would a e-ink phone work for this. Would the battery lasts long enough ? Would I have to use mobile data or would it work with the gps and the downloaded maps ? Thanks for everyone who will answer.
How do you combine routes together? Thank you.
My Wahoo died after 3-4 years. Wahoo Element Bolt noted that this is about the life span. I am reluctant to get another.
Google maps can get confusing at times. I was going over a car bridge using the bike lane and it was showing me to turn right to go on the bike trail. Problem was, I was about 15 feet above a foot trial that went under the bridge and was not going to turn right and fall off the bridge. As it turned out, I had to go to the end of the bridge first and loop around until I got to the bike trail that which the foot trail went to.
true, it's not always correct with how it routes you
Thanks Ryan, I just downloaded Komoot to my phone. All the best. Jaroslav 🙂🇨🇿
Have fun with it!
Haha,my komoot is FULL of "imaginary routes"
I stick to the bike paths in Ohio and I'm not that trusting on the street with traffic. Ohio has miles and miles of paths but out and backs can be boring unless you can loop. I don't let by bike sit anywhere when I'm not around because it can be stolen with ease.
I agree…I try to avoid busy road when riding my bike.
HOLD THE PHONE!!!! is this 04:08 a easter egg for something upcoming or am i just dreaming? Ryan!!!! kom til Sverige :D it would be so cool to join the ride for a few miles.
Du drömmer inte!! Jag kommer!!
I believe he has mentioned he is going to cross Sweden this summer. Not 100% sure, but I believe he mentioned it in that last talk he had in some bikeshop.
@@duzer OMG!!!!!!! well i guess i have to go to sweden this summer and stand on the side of the road with a cow-bell and cheer :D so awsome!!
@@Perception_ i did not watch the ted talk in the cafe that day. maybe i have to revisit it. otherwise im clued to the content :D
I haven’t tried Komoot, but I do use Ride With GPS. I’m surprised you didn’t mention RWGPS as it is the most like Komoot. I pair it with a Garmin 830 for on the bike navigation.
RWGPS interface is much more confusing than Komoot. Feels like RWGPS was made by back-end devs while Komoot has experienced UX specialists.
I’m going to start bike packing without a navigation system. I think I’ll be all right without it for the local, familiar routes.
You’ll be A-OK!
Hi Ryan, have you made a video on how you recharge your electronic devices etc.
Välkommen till Sverige 🇸🇪 hoppas att vi möts på vägen. Jag startar den 15/6
Hello Ryan. I would like to thank your videos. Your videos gave me a lot of confidence in Biking solo and I would like to thank you for that. THANK YOU! your friend here in the Philippines MABUHAY! 🇵🇭
I love hearing this!! I wish you all the best on your bike adventures
Hey! We saw that Sweden route!
;)
How do you have sim card in other countries?
Un giorno farai un viaggio in Europa? Per esempio da capo nord a Marzamemi (Sicilia)
"Realising his mistake as she passed, he swung round and joined Lael. “Why don’t we finish together?” he suggested. Lael smiled and simply responded, “this is a race” and accelerated away with all her might."
Yep!! Lael is no dummy ;)
Good to hear from you, what is the books for 2022 as far as your adventures?
Google Maps really is a good option for commuting. It's what I used to setup my work commute. I still have to drive my Jeep 2.7 miles from home to the trail that I use for my commute. But 6.7 miles are dirt and paved greenways. I look forward to trying Komoot for my next adventure.
Thanks Ryan,
You rock brother!
Cool that you have a nice commute to work! Happy trails
Distracted (aka, phone enslaved) drivers scare the piss out of me. These idiots have drastically altered my road enjoyment and routes taken. And no end is in sight...it has only gotten worse! Arrrgh!!
I’m right there with you!
Komoot doesn’t work in my country, Panamá. Goggle map is better because has more details. Anyway great explanation
Interesting, I didn't know that.
Ryan, I’ve recently discovered your channel and applaud your campaign to encourage more people to cycle! I’m approaching 80, 20 years ago cycled a lot everyday (didn’t, however, give up my car in DC area), but haven’t cycled much since. 4 weeks ago I purchased an e-bike and, like your mother, love it. I’m getting out more and exercising more than I have in 20 years! I’m on a roll to now do the limited shopping I need to do using my bike as well as utilize our local Lynchburg, VA trails. (we recently moved into a local CCRC community)
Komoot tip: WHILE YOU HAVE WIFI: Save your Route for Offline Use:
Bring up the Route; scroll down by LEARN MORE- "Store for offline use" TOGGLE ON
Phone Tip: Use Airplane Mode or Battery saver. You won't have service anyway until you reach a town.
Yes! Thank you
Hey. When is your big run? Coming up?
I'm on my 2nd bike touring
Darn good info. I have both Komoot and a Wahoo but I haven't explored their use much. You gave me some incentive.
Thanks, I was curious about this.
Great video Ryan. Practical advice. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I'll just say Locus map Classics 3 is a great version. It cost like $8 bucks to download but you can download their OFF LINE maps. So you can see routes with no wifi signal. Its great when you have no wifi you can still see where you are.
As both a driver and a avid mountain bike rider, it is very annoying when anyone as headphones( of any description). Pedestrians Cross the road without any situation awareness, cyclists cannot hear what is happening behind. And cycling clubs block the lanes (so they can talk to one another). If you ride anywhere you should have all of your senses on full alert. Even if it is to listen to the birds. It can also alert you to anything going wrong with your bike. Rant over sorry guys and galls.
I agree 100%! We all gotta be more mindful of one another
Can we see gradient in unplanned riding?
I’m surprised you don’t use a mirror. I love having reference to what’s coming up behind me on my ebike tours.
GCN have the best NC500 vlog featuring Mark Beaumont incorporating more obscure roads...in case you're interested...while you're over visiting Sweden. 😜
In the intro you mentioned distracted driving and the phone, along with too many cyclists getting killed these days. I agree with you. In San Diego I had a period of almost getting hit every week. I was on my touring bike, yellow highway vest, daylight visible blinkers, yellow helmet, and I used to be an LCI trainer. The "I didn't see you" immediate response was so common that I delved into reading NHTSA and GHSA reports on traffic deaths in the U.S. I also spoke with Highway Patrol, SDPD, and Sheriffs, all of which told me they no longer perform regularly scheduled traffic patrols, "We only respond to emergencies" I was told bluntly. According to the reports not only cyclists, but pedestrians, and driver deaths have all increased by 10% in recent years. Recalling the number, around 41,000 deaths for 2021. Reasons: increased miles driven due to better economy, distracted driving, high speeds, aggressive driving, and reduced traffic law enforcement. Reports stated that DUI has increased after years of decline. Practically speaking, we need more traffic cops writing tickets to reduce the mayhem on our public roads. But that's just my opinion.
I honestly think we need to re-engineer our traffic systems from the ground up using lessons learned over the last century, and then split the police so that there’s traffic enforcement and other police separate, so there’s always dedicated traffic enforcement. People get away with way too much on the roads these days - clearly we haven’t got adequate enforcement.
@@babybirdhome Agree on re-engineering. Starting with intersection cameras to enforce red lights, and speed zone cameras to calm traffic. Narrowing lanes, adding roundabouts, and updating pedestrian crosswalks are all good starts. In Netherlands they even have separate lights at intersections for cyclists. Happy trails!
Now that weed is legal in many states a lot of drivers think it's a green light to smoke and drive
Lovvve komoot.... can't get enough...
It’s really well done
My current navigation setup: Garmin Edge Explore GPS, Garmin Varia Rear Tailight+Radar. Auxiliary: My cell phone with Kamoot, Maps etc and a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt. The cell phone is good but when I used to drive, I always had a dedicated gps unit like a Garmin "Nuvi" or similar. Freeing up my phone for more "phone" tasks and not having to worry about running out of data or a cell signal, slow connection speeds etc. My dedicated gps links up in seconds and so far has never had a problem finding a link. The radar is also a nice addition, I don't have to keep turning my head around to see what's behind me. I won't ever trust it 100% but it helps.
Komoot is a great tool, it will take us to interesting places and it will facilitate avoiding f car drivers
It’s great!
How is it looking for RAGBRAI 2022?
When you started talking about Google Maps did you mean to say Komoot? I don't get it.
I use them both
Ryan , do you Edd Costner ??
😂🤣😂 “take a jacket and sunscreen” or she will hit you with the chancla 🩴 😆😆
Thanks Ryan this was useful and giving me more confidence to start bikepacking! Short question is it correct that you have to start on the path, to activate the Wahoo, in my case Sigma Evo? You are not being navigated to the route are you? So you have to start from the start locations or somewhere on the route? Thanks, you explain things well!
Ryan, just wondering if you have any recommendations for charging/power banks for phones and equipment when on the trail? have you had success/positive experiences with any of the solar powered ones? I've been re-skimming your Gear videos but figured asking a question might get me there a bit quicker. thanks in advance for any insight.
I like the Anker brand, usually get the ones with highest capacity. I haven’t tried solar yet, power banks do the trick
@@duzer thank you Ryan. I figured it there was any that could hold up to what you put them through, they would be worth checking out.
NIce.. Thanks for sharing. I just downloaded the app and signed up. You know what I will use it for :)
I’ve just got to come meet you before I expire, in 10 years or so
Come to Boulder!
Thanks for sharing! I’m in the Denver metro area and always wanted to check out some long rides!
Nice! There’s lots of good stuff in this area
It's all fun and games until you have a really cheap phone that cannot accurately tell your location. Then it's super fun because you have to get better at navigating yourself. That's my situation because if I get lost, my phone might not be able to tell me where I am and how to get back on route so I have to ask for directions or figure it out myself. I get more and more tempted to get a bike computer just to have a bit better navigation.
Your phone must not have gps. But if you do have phone GPS it chews up lots of energy, in which case you'll need auxiliary power for the phone. You're probably better with a separate gps device
Have you ever thought of riding along the old Route 66?!
Someday!
Thanks for the helpful information.
Glad it was helpful!
I like using my phone like a bike computer, and just plug it into a rechargeable battery pack.
do you find tha komoot, strava or other systems tend to send you along the same paths?
I actually don't know because I've never compared...I bet it's similar.
You had me sold when you said it'll tell me where Mexican restaurants are!!🤣🤣❤❤❤
Haha!! That’s very important information!
Are going to Sweden?
Books are good! I liked the Cuba trip so much that I found a used copy of the book you read on the plane ride. LOL
Ryan-
This was very helpful, thank you.
can you tell me what size WTB saddle you use
I actually don't know the width, I think it's the stock size
Thanks Ryan. Burrito supply often overlooked, but necessary.👍
Vital information!!
Thanks for the navigation advice!
You got it!
Very timely. Just bought a navigation device. Agree. I need to figure out how to use it.
thankyou ryan fo your advice.....
@Ryan Van Duzer
Perfect.
Thank you
Ryan, great vid, you are 100% on point, love it!
Komoot #1.... instead Ryan #1!!!
:)
Have you consider being a guide lead for a group of amateur bike packers or for people that has never done bike packing before but is on their bucket list?