I Gave My BMW M Handling With This!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I show you how to upgrade your E9X or E8X BMW with M3 control arms.
This is only for RWD models. I show you the kit and show you how to install it.
Your car will have a sportier ride and have more on center steering feel and more precise handling.
I install this kid on my E90 335i but this kit fits all RWD E90s. If you want to give your car more of an M car feel this kit is a nice upgrade.
It costs less then piecing together the original control arm bushings for your car so if you have over 100K miles this would be a nice upgrade just for maintenance.
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Teach your kids this and they will never have money for drugs.
Eh not true. I'm do both. Although it's just weed
@@JackRR15 Buy more car stuff.........there, problem solved 😉
@@JackRR15 same
@@dennisanglin1116 Ayyy . Holy shit 2 years ago I made that comment.... time flies.
@@JackRR15 Did you quit smoking weed tho?
Again my friend. The e90 series content is world beating. Hat's off to you
Thank you!
No cap
I bent my stock control arm from race track so i decided to upgrade it to this and let me tell you guys this will change your car handling so much that it felt like i am driving a different car, the steering is so much better than before, its really ideal for windy road like mountain pass or complex race track.
If u guys have not upgrade yet to this control arm i would highly recommend it specially doing a high speed corner.
What a coincidence! I also just did this upgrade along with the rear control arms as well and m3 subframe bushings. After the alignment it’s crazy how glued to the road the car feels. Ride isn’t harsh at all in fact even better than before since the stock stuff was all worn out. Turn in and handling has gotten siginificantly better. And the car feels planted even switching lanes at highway speeds. If your in doubt of this upgrade don’t be! It’s worth it!
You're killing my bank account! :)
So crazy how a part that I need to replace on my e90, you always come out with a video for it the next day lmao
For future reference I'd like to encourage a road test after you do such phenomenal work and detail thank you very much
Thanks for the feedback.
@@VehicularDIY hey is there any disadvantage to spraying my intercooler in a different color than it originally came in
@@lukelmiller2489 I don't think so people paint it I paint mine with vrsf logo
@@lukelmiller2489 no lol.
@@lukelmiller2489 might car mods done a whole video on how painting affects the cooling of an intercooler, u should check it out
wish I'd seen this in the summer. Ill have to do this next year for track days.
Thank you including the torque specs in you videos! So many forget that.
I am watching this with my set of front and rear trw arms sitting next to me in their boxes.... This video couldn't be any more well timed!!! So stoked to get mine on!!
if u need much more camper at the front, buy M3 e36 3.2
suspension strut top mount and install it sideways :)
We fitted these to our E82 135i and also fitted the rear TRW M upgrade and it all makes a MASSIVE difference.
I literally just did this the other day but with upgraded bushings. Definitely get a sway bar w/black powerflex bushings ties EVERYTHING together
did you get the bushings on ECS?
Better to do both ends and rear subframe bushings and both anti-sway bars at once.
@@machtschnell7452 people say you shouldn't touch rear subframe at all until you're about to install a proper LSD. Front's okay.
Can anyone clarify what alignment to get? I've been getting various answers. Just installed m3 control arms for front and rear. 335i spec or M3?
$344 at fcp euro for same thing.
ANOTHER ONE!. dude you make your car even more reliable. What's next?
You have probably saved me 10k In labor following your channel.
You really know your shit. I Hope my subscription helps, and TH-cam is taking care of you 👍🏼
continuously video on N54..we still need you...thanks and apprecite
Remove the pins from the strut tops, to give more neg camber
E9x also? Thought that was just an e46 thing
I changed front and rear arms to M3 and Dinan suspension parts including all subframe bushings a few years back and it does make a difference. Less boaty.Currently running Koni Active Shocks with Eibach ProKit Springs... Perfect balance.
sounds awesome mate
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! I was just wondering which bushings to replace on my 135, this is amazing. Too bad i just got an alignment last week
Generally you have 30 days to get it realigned for free... maybe?
@@Objectional_Opinion good to know
Was waiting for you to do a DIY on this! Thank you!
You have the best TH-cam Channel! I have a 2011 Bmw 328i Xdrive 4dr sedan! If I have any questions I hope to hear from you! You give so much knowledge out for free & that’s the best part about it!
Do a video on the rear end m3 arms
You could also pre-align the toe, theres some predetermined turns on the tie rods to make the toe as before so you can dry safely until a real alignment. On E90post forum I think. Dont remember but worked fine on my car after this upgrade 👍
3.5 turns in I think
I gotta ask, what do you do for a living? Or maybe I should ask, what did you do for a living before this channel? I've been watching your vids a lot, deciding if I want to buy an N54 project car and you have given me a lot of confidence to take the plunge. Thanks for taking all of the extra time/thought to do the videos for the rest of us.
Thanks! I work on the IT power industry.
This would be a nice upgrade with the kw suspension v1 i got. Already have powerflex bushings in the rear. (I will eventually also do subframe). I had some wheel hop issues which is kind of solved for now.
After that im going to do the shifter, mine has become worn out. Need to change the oil in the transmission to, doing the diff also
Its getting expensive to watch your videos :)
Very cool vid, cheers, was hoping you'd complete the video with a test drive and your thoughts on the difference if there was any.
I did the upgrade this year, set to -1° of camber.
245 tires on a square setup, handling is fantastic
I'm stock at -1.1 lol
The real difference is the rear axle...
You could easily go 255 all around
This man should have over a million subs.
He’d have more views & subs if he actually titled his vids to match the content rather than the generic titles like “This one thing transformed my BMW!”
Very few of his videos come up in searches because of it. As an example, search “E90 control arm replacement” or “E90 upgraded control arm” or even any combination of words for what is going on in this video and it doesn’t even enter the list despite it being so superb.
@Purple Troll in my opinion talking about 335i he is the best like #1 nobody creates a better content than him
Here I am still in the process of reassembling my subframe after replacing the turbos (and assorted related maintenance) on my '09 E82 - with my struts and hubs sitting on my garage floor here. I was preparing to clean-up and reuse the original factory arms this weekend... until I saw this video! I actually was holding off on upgrading to M3 arms next year, but when I saw the price for these TRWs, and the fact that they are the OE manufacturer - well damn, it made too much sense to grab a set now. Besides it would probably have taken me a sh*tload more time to clean the crud off the originals than it would to just swap them out. 😉 I got to say once again, the ideas, information and content you present here are excellent. Much appreciated!
this guy is a better version than chrisfix!!
On xi you can modify the M3 tension strut bushings to fit into your stock arms. Its cheaper than both buying new arms or new oem bushings
Hey Great video!! This is the kit I JUST bought and was preparing to do over the Christmas break. I think I'll post mine once I get done too. Great work and you should have 100K subs by now with the quality of workmanship in just the videos. The info quality you provide, you should have 1M subs! Keep up the great work.
8:13 „Negative 1,5 to Negative 2,0“ ? Why they write negative camber 0,75 at the linked page?
Good stuff, another project to add on my list. Thanks!
This guy should move to florida
So he can be my neighbor
I have a e90 N54 but I have bc racing extreme low on the car can use that kit
dont forget to do the m3 rear upgrade as well :)
Yeah I'm afraid to go back there and see how worn everything probably is lol.
@@VehicularDIY I second the motion to see a future video on upgrading the rears. I already have TRW M3 rear arms on my wishlist for next year...
This set up with bilstein OE 4 shocks n struts. And OE spring coils. Will work with out any suffering to ride quality. Which should be done first control arms or shocks n struts.
Looks hella beefier! Must really feel like you're on rails now. How's it drive? Does it feel more planted?
Haven't had a chance to put miles on it yet but I'll report back after I have a chance to get an alignment. So far I've ready really positive reviews.
Bump 👀
It’s a shame I didn’t think of this before I got my 335i Xdrive as this was in my future plans, Do you think there are any Xdrive M control arms or after market ones for the AWD platform?
I don't think so but from the comments it seems like someone should make it.
Turner makes them. I installed them on my 335xi and they work great.
FYI, the ball joints on the M3 control arms are not "more robust", in fact they are identical to the standard 3-series control arm ball joints. I just did this conversion on my 330i, thanks to this video.
I need to tell you, I appreciate all of your videos. Without your video series going over your serpentine belt explosion and aftermath, I would never have taken this task on myself. I just finished the task on a 2006 530XI. Even though you had an N54, and I have an N52, your help proved to me - priceless. I also had the extra complexity of having the differential and drive shafts going through the oil pan. I think it is your camera quality and the soothing tone of your voice throughout that set me at ease before starting the task.
Again, I say thank you for your videos. Please keep making them.
so theres a set for E60/61 aswell?
Just curious if you replaced the control arm bolts and nuts or reused them? Let me know, thanks!
Hi.
Thanks for your efforts. This is very helpful for me and I will follow you further. I have a Z4 E89 with N54 engine. Most of your mods apply for me as well. Thanks
I have also upgraded to these arms and got 1.9 degree front camber with the strut tower placement pins removed.
got these a week ago still waiting to receive
I'm gonna do this to mine. Top quality video. The hits just keep on coming.
Hello :) why didn't you raise both hands and then tighten ? And if I understood correctly, those new shoulders lowered him?
I know you say pretty much all E8x and E9X models buy I wanna double check, will it fit an E88 ? Mine it's 2008 135i convertible, I hit a bump yesterday and my lower control arm bend so I'm planing in do this upgrade right now
You mentioned that it will fit the e82 as long as it's rear wheel drive.
Following the affiliate link and inputting my e82 135i as a vehicle type it states it won't fit my vehicle. Soooo not entirely sure who to believe here, can't risk importing these if they of no use.
great video . Thanks!
Great find! Thanks for bringing this up. I would like you to make a follow up review of how the car feels after the upgrade. I am thinking that I'll have to do my suspension some time down the road...but would be mightful not to add more harshness to the ride...as the roads in my region are not the best :)
Yeah I'll definitely give you guys my driving impressions once I get it aligned.
no post-install impressions?
Hi and thanks for the video. I was just starting to look into this as I'm doing a suspension refresh.
Can you post a part number for the headlights sensor arm? I can buy the arms cheaper separately and I can't find the xenon arm:(
You can also try upper camber plates for more camber and for the rear, whiteline subframe bushing inserts. There's a bloke in England on the forums names Ian(THETYRANT) that manufacturers the camber plates.
Sure this link has the arm and the two nuts you would need. The nuts are designed to not vibrate loose. bit.ly/2L4QQn0
Hi there. Are the corresponding parts you mention in this vide the same on the E46 M3 and can be used on the E46 non-M to obtain the same enhanced M series performance?
I don't believe there is a similar retrofit available for the E46 but I'll take a look.
What is your driving experience after change this suspension parts?
If only mine wasn’t xDrive. Planning to do the rears but not sure if it will make much of a difference
Yeah doing only the rears might just upset the balance of the car.
If only there was an aftermarket solution for us xdrive guys 😭 what would be even better is an aluminum subframe just like rwd instead of the shitty stamped steel
Did you need to remove or drill out the alignment pin of the strut assembly to get your car properly aligned after installing these parts?
Have you done your rear control arms yet? Best done when you replace your subframe bushings too for stiffer ones.
No yet but I'll be looking into it.
Do the rear subframe bushings too. I went with the bimmerworld solid aluminium, one of the best upgrades on these cars. Keep up the good work 👏👏
I did the whiteline racing bushings for the body/chassis on my 135 a couple year ago. They are rubber but feel as if they are solid. In my opinion its way to stiff now lol, feels like a stiff box. But thats ok because... racecar!
@@Spirited_Driver I love mine, I also use the car for road course racing but I still have full interior. It makes the car more predictable/safe and easier to correct when losing control.
Hi I have a bmw 325xi 2006 will this work thank u great vid …
Hi I don’t suppose you have the part number for the headlight adjuster arm ? I did the arms but forgot the adjuster
Also I think you need to extend the tie rods about 2 turns to get it close enough to drive to the alignment place
I made a link that includes the arm and the two nuts : bit.ly/2IhpcCr
Sweet does this work for xdrive?
I did this on my E90 335i and it made such a huge difference. The steering is more precise and turn in is faster and funny enough throttle response is faster too which i think it because my original bushings were toast and had so much play.
Yeah I didn't realize how bad mine were until I removed them. I'm expecting a huge difference. I'll give my driving impressions after I get it aligned.
@@VehicularDIY yea the difference was night and day and my friend who also has an E90 was just as surprised lol definitely needs an alignment after though it was undrivable lmao.
@@OTechnology By undrivable, do you mean it had like excessive play when turning? I just finished this job and need to get it aligned badly. After I turn my wheels 20° or so, I have to make I have two hands on the wheel, because the car feels like it wants to keep pulling to that side
So this won’t for for the xdrive versions of the E9X?
What can I do to improve the handling of my 2004. X3
Does this work on all e90s or just the 335?
I did this upgrade so worth every penny
Does this with stock 335i suspension make a difference??
I have a 2011 335is with stock suspension and its just too bouncy when I floor the car and in corners for my taste having had a E93 M3 before.
Would you rechnend just doing M3 control arms alone? Will that make a dramatical difference by itself?
What about the head light level ?
Having an impact would of helped me so much. I just finished doing this 3 days ago.
Got this done over the summer front and rear control arms. Ohlins coilovers and ground control camber plates. The difference is night and day. Still a bit splashy in the rear, next upgrade will probably be swaybars.
Big sway bar in the rear will make the rear more drift friendly. If you don't want it to feel so lose try aluminum rear subframe bushings👍🏽
@@iG4MERs I was thinking about the swaybars. The aluminum subframe bushing are new to me. A gentleman had mentioned aluminum subframe inserts helped too. Either way you have to drop the sub, not completely, to even get the swaybar in and out.
Did you get Swift springs also? Do you recall your spring rates and damper settings?
@@machtschnell7452 I have no idea that information. I got the kit from modbargins if that helps any.
Looking forward for you to get that alignment done and make the update video!
How much power are you making now? Did you get a custom Wedge tune?
Yeah I have a custom wedge tune, I was making 540 WHP but have since swapped to manual and asked Wedge to turn things up so I'm not exactly sure how much it's making now but I plan on taking it back to a dyno.
Vehicular DIY video series on BMW convinced me after 3-4 years of constipating getting myself an N54 powered 335i. Most others I watched before finding this channel were just kids only going fast. Once I started shopping I went through videos showing his work with technical explanation and in depth review of each maintenance fix or upgrade, I know now I have good references to use as guides as I spend the next year going through my car. Three weeks into ownership and only driven the new ride once, then tore into cooling system rebuild. Was going to be my first task, but a pinhole leak appeared during delivery. But will be wrapped up tomorrow. Now finish buying parts to redo the entire turbo system. Bought a second set of factory turbos, Turbo Lab rebuild kits and waste gate kits. New outlets and relocate inlets from ARM Motorsports. Will finish buying the rest while I rebuild the turbo assemblies and plan a time to test it down, clean the engine compartment completely before installing. Hopefully within a year or so I will have a like new 2009. My only worry is maybe I shouldn't have gotten the Xdrive version.
Are there any options for XDrive e90s?
Be careful. My lower front control arms gave me bump steer. Had to buy original and replace those, because it was very dangerous with bump steer. For example my car steering into opposite side traffic when running over manhole covers that were slightly dipped.
All the other arms are changed though except two in the back. Ok mine is an E91, but its very similar to an E90 in a lot of ways.
Take care, and thanks for awesome videos!
Thanks, are you running stock suspension?
It meants your alignment isnt correct. happened first time in installed them, then i adjused the toe and it was fine. nothing wrong with m3 control arm upgrade :)
If I keep up with you, can I put an “S”
on my trunk badge?
Only if you have a 335is.
Would these parts be an upgrade, to my 2011 335IS?
I also didn't see you how you hooked up the headlight bracket
Nice. Great work. Respect. Hey if anyone knows any lmk please. I'm having a hard time getting my secondary air to get ready on my BMW drive cycle so I can go get this smog emissions test finished and passed. Any info on WTH I can do to get the secondary air ready is appreciated. Thanks
Do they have these for the F30 328i
I did front and rear, with rogue engineering rear tie arms. Very great investment
do you have to have it realigned ??
I take it it’ll be the same for the f32 ?
Did you not buy the new bolt and nut set with it?
Great video thank you!
Will this work with 15mm spacers? If it doesn’t, will it feel weird to have 20mm and none in the front with these control arms? Ty
What about for. Xdrive car?
Stop spinning the shaft when you counter hold. You’re supposed to counter hold the shaft and spin the nut
Did you just remove the headlight level sensor? If I understood that correctly, how does that impact your headlights when driving up or down the hill?
Do you know if I could do this upgrade on a 320d 130kw/177 ps?
Best upgrade I've done on my E82..car is on rails through corners...so solid and positive.
Can this be done on a F30? Would I just buy a M control arm and that’s how you do it??
I saved myself over $400 in labor by DIY
I did the front and rear control arms on my 2008 328i. I felt like the front honestly didn't make that big of a difference, but once I did the rear guide rods and wishbones. Wow! It literally felt like a brand new car. Such a huge improvement. Now I'm thinking about upgrading the toe arms and trailing arms too!
Hello there, do you have part numbers for rear arms upgrades please?
@@justas6686 Sure, they are:
33322283545
33322283546
33322283547
33322283548
And the two plastic ABS Cable Brackets you'll need are:
34522283017 (x2)
I would recommend ordering it from FCP Euro if you're in the U.S. They have a kit which has all the parts together so you don't have to worry about ordering the wrong stuff. Also their kit uses the TRW control arms (TRW manufactures the arms for BMW) so they are much cheaper than ordering the "actual" BMW control arms. The TRW part numbers are:
TRW-JTC1428
TRW-JTC1429
TRW-JTC1430
TRW-JTC1431
Hope this helps!
Get the kit from FCPEuro.com, not ECS! Much better company
Watching all your videos and paying a shop to do the work ;)
Imma put a single turbo on my e92
Imma need these as well to not break anythg😂