@@77edwilsonoriginally, this was gonna be using a bunch of cheap parts and have an entry level medicino or i3 chip, for 280usd. Unfortunately, the 6800u happened.
I dont even like Ayaneo, but youre comparison makes zero sense. There are tons of PC gamers who would love to play portably, but didnt like tht almost every handheld was underpowered or had some kind of gimmick to keep interest. Also the ecosystems would always close off buying software outside of Sony and (mostly) Nintendo offerings, where once the console was dead in 5-7 years all the money you used to buy software was now gone Devices like the Ayaneo, Steam Deck, etc solve all these problems, and don't try to penny pinch you for every $ after you buy the hardware one time, and each piece of software one more time. On top of that, they solve the lack of legacy software support due to emulation being available without jailbreaking. None of them aim to sell 10s of millions of units, only Valve could potentially keep up with that demand. 90% of Nintendo fans who love their Nintendo handhelds since the Gameboy are ok with the console life cycle/power restraints and like an easy experience. Nothing wrong with that. But dont be telling these portable PC manufacturers they gotta dumb down their products. Even at $300 an Ayaneo isnt selling millions of units from Indiegogo campaigns shipped from Hong Kong lol
look at The Phawx videos about ROG Ally, before you fall to much for the marketing... It's really not going to be what people expect since they are overselling what a handheld GPU can offer by using specs and clever wording.
@@PixelShade sure it won't do 120 fps (people expecting that are just fooling themselves honestly) and Asus marketing is... well it's Asus marketing. However. What will be really interesting to see is how it does at 5watts, 7 watts and 10 watts. Because perf per watt should be quite a bit better with that rdna3 iGPU. Personally don't care for that device, have plenty of gaming gear and I don't like the look of the Ally, but I'm certainly curious about the progress in perf per watt. For example since it's a game in this video: Ori and the will of the wisps should be playable at under 10 watts on the Zen4/rdna3 APU where here with the 6800U you have to pump it up to at least 15 watts to have good enough performance. Same with Control if you can have it at 15 watts for a 720p60 instead of having to go for 28/30 watts. This is where the main advantage will reside, not in providing that much power, but providing same power at a much lower wattage.
@@Allyouknow5820 I'm with you mate. I'm extremely curious about the performance/watt improvements as well. Unfortunately I am getting a feeling it actually won't be as much as people expect. Looking at the difference between Zen2 and Zen3 in some cases there's only ~12% IPC improvement, with blender showing a result of 5%. which is still great as both were 7nm chips, But ultimately it wouldn't do a massive performance difference on a low TDP chip in gaming. I am actually very curious of what will happen between RDNA3 and RDNA2, since the current RDNA3 chips draw A LOT of power. So question is what kind of efficiency improvement we can expect. I honestly think Valve and AMD went with Zen2 since it could be much easier scaled down into a low powered APU. AMD had Zen3 design ready but still figured Zen2 would be better for the Steam Deck. Whatever they choose the APU would still be developed on TSMCs 7nm node, causing any efficiency gain to be quite small.
@@PixelShade regarding the CPU, it actually doesn't matter that much, and Valve rightly recognized that, betting on a more performant GPU and bandwidth (because bandwidth is the absolute most important thing in those mobile chips). Whether RDNA3 is really efficient, I think it is, because once you scale down the clocks the efficiency curve goes back in your favour. The problem is that both Nvidia and AMD have now took the habit of just pushing those clocks for basically bragging rights. Just look at the recent 4070 which does about 3080 performance, but while consuming 100/150 watts less. We'll see with the Ally and others, but given it is on a 4nm process and that RDNA2 was already an efficiency champ, I think it will deliver good surprises on that front. But again if people are expecting more performance as opposed to better perf per watt, they will be disappointed.
@@PixelShade The phawx was only talking about how the marketing could build unrealistic expectations. The ally will still probably have a very competitive price, be the most powerful handheld and maybe also powerefficient, and the customer support will be miles ahead of what these companies should realistically do.
The huge price increases are what really spoils it for me. Regardless of the reason, heavily promoting products at a certain price and then substantially changing it is very disappointing, i was looking forward to the lower spec model. it just becomes impossible to recommend this at $800. also just cements the steam deck as the best value period.
A direct comparison between this and the GPD Win 4 is gonna be very interesting. I've been loving my Win 4 so far, but I gotta say it is a bit of a thiccer device. A tad chonky even. So I'd love to see them compared in ergonomics and stuff.
i own this device for about 3 months. I have to say... its not good at all. Although better spec than my steam deck. The temperature is extremely hot after 15mins of game play, i contact ayaneo thinking its a defect but they say its... normal and advise to play with charging plugged in. It can't play most AAA games without flickers. I tried the lowest setting in Resident evil 4 remake and it crashes and reboots when the temperature gets too hot. Battery is also a joke, the device drains much faster than it charges. i can't finish a hour of game play without constantly checking the battery health. Stay away..
I hope this doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, but I just want to say the artist who tattooed the irezumi on your arm did a wonderful job! I can make out the intricate details even with just brief glimpses. The haikei behind the ryu is exceptionally well done with various gradients of bokashi, both subtle and bold.
Thanks, yeah I'm very happy with it, and it looks great even though it's about 10 years old now. Believe it or not, the artist did it freehand as well; he sketched the dragon initially and then just filled in the rest on the fly.
I wish all these new competing x86 handheld would also compete with the steam decks controls. While a more powerful and smaller handheld seems nice. I'm not sure I want to give up trackpads and especially gyro for them. It's also looking like Valve made some really smart choices when it came to what's in the deck and price. I'm disappointed we're not getting a $300 ayaneo's anymore more. I want really considering a mendocino one as something more portable than my deck.
I like the size of devices like this over tbe Steam Deck (as a Steam Deck owner this thing is massive) but the price plus the fact that the Deck is made by a huge American company I feel is better
Thank you for doing the performance review at reasonable TDPs / frame caps. There's no use in something being portable if it isn't practical to use it portably, and battery life forms a significant part of whether or not a portable device is practical. It's nice to have the option to crank everything up when connected to a power source, but since these devices are not marketed as 'stationary gaming handhelds', it doesn't make sense to review them that way either. That's not to say that I think the maximum performance of these devices shouldn't be demonstrated, but rather that the bulk of the performance review should focus on the more realistic use case.
This is why I still haven't been able to get interested in x86 handhelds. To get any real performance benefit over Android the battery life drops so much that it's barely even portable anymore.
I really like having USB-C ports at both the top and the bottom. That way I can just stay plugged in when I want to crank up the settings but am still able to avoid the power cable getting in the way!
This basically outlines why most of us, even with money went and got a Steam Deck instead.... $1299 for a well spec'd Ayaneo is more than an ASUS Tuf RTX 3070 ti laptop right now, on top of the fact that this will often have to run things in 720p and achieves barely 5-15 more fps in games than the SD....I just cant get myself to pay those prices....maybe the Rog Ally will change that. Plus it has back paddles/buttons which is a must for some gamers....
Well if you think about it, steam deck is community driven nd supported even before steamdeck was a thing, proton db allowed most of the games to run on linux. Yes Steam deck is not as powerful as the others but the amount of support from community will allow the development of the software longevity. Ayaneo and other competitors are pushing spec like smarphone but once a new iteration of it comes out the support for the software will be forgotten.
Nice review, Russ. For me, i'm out when it comes to PC-Handhelds, they are too pricey. The Upper End for me are Linux/Android Handhelds like the RP3+. I still hope for a 7"-Device to materialize from Anbernic or Retroid. I'd never pay more than €250 for a Handheld, though.
I've been following the handheld PC market, pretty closely, since the GPD Win 2 and I just can't help but be amazed at how many fantastic options we have now. It really feels like a whole different market or like we're entering some sort of golden age.
I know that chinese companies are more into flooding the market with copies of the same product than any kind of innovation, but I'm here wondering why didn't anyone try out a damn right trackpad now the Steam Deck (and the Steam Controller before) proved is essential for a decent PC gaming experience
We really need Phoenix. 6800U is getting long in the tooth by now. Hopefully the Ayaneo 2 Next with the 7840u will launch this month, and we also have the AOKZOE A1 Pro with Phoenix. Most importantly we have the Rog Ally with its supposedly imminent launch, and alleged price of just $650 to match the steam deck highest model (But ofcourse it will obliterate it with a Phoenix Apu in terms of performance).
It's worth noting with the button diameters, since you're more concerned with the actual area of the buttons, and area is proportional to radius squared, that 0.5mm increase in radius should result in about a 30% increase to the area - which is definitely a noticeable jump.
AYA and AYN are never going to dominate the market. It's too expensive all the time. Steam Deck will never be beaten unless they can learn to take a hit and sell it a lower cost.
The problem with undercutting Valve is it’s going to be near impossible for any competitor to even match the value the Deck provides. Valve can lose a lot of margin on each Steam Deck, given the platform is built on Steam and they’re going to make back that margin through software sales. I was a beta tester for Steam before its full release and while I know they’ve had their problems, they are the ubiquitous platform for PC gaming and it’s unlikely they will ever lose the top spot. Long story short, I completely agree that the Deck is likely to never be dethroned as the most affordable, price versus performance handheld. Even Asus’s new handheld has a tough battle to fight.
I have an Odin pro and loved it but it made me crave a more powerful device. When I started looking at the Windows based handheld I was checking the Loki first but without any clear release date it was hard to settle on it. The SteamDeck is too big for my taste and the Ayaneo 2 is way too expensive for the features. I too went with the GPD Win 4 in the end. You never realize how useful a physical keyboard can be for PC games until you don't have one. I put Windows 11 on my Odin and it can run Skyrim decently. I had to plug in a physical keyboard just to name my character at the start because it can't be done with a controller and I couldn't get the on screen keyboard to work in games.
@@chamoo232 Same. I had the Loki preordered on a discount since I purchased the Odin Pro. I’m glad I switched. AYN hasn’t even started shipping while GPD caught up. I also own a steam deck and I constantly had to plug it in because the on screen keyboard is not a great option.
The "budget models" might as well not exists, if you can afford one of those you can also throw away the money on the expensive one. 300€ was a stretch for what these things are, at that price they can just shove it up their arse and be done with it. We'll see if one of the other companies can do a better job, but I rather doubt that any of them can really compete with the steam deck in the long run.
I haven't been following emulation or portables for a while but the fact that you can run Switch and PS3 games at near full speed on a relatively cheaper portable is crazy to me.
I'm waiting for one of these handheld PCs to have a Sega Saturn style d-pad. It seems like a lot of them (including Steam Deck) have either a so-so d-pad or they're absolutely horrible.
Battery life is the unsolvable barrier for x86 handhelds. Steam deck is still the best in that regard and it's getting old. One thing to consider is something like local streaming on an android handheld if you already have a gaming PC. I optimized my network for it and played about 6 hours of Elden Ring at max settings 60 FPS downsampled from 1440p on my Retroid Pocket 3+ yesterday, one room away from my PC, and the latency was perfect with no stutters, with the battery still at 30% after those 6 hours of playing a high end PC game. Sure it's not really portable, I can't leave the house and do this, but I don't play anything when out of the house anyway and if I do it's something quick like Vampire Survivors or GBC/GBA emulation which will run on ARM fine, so...
Battery life will get there with zen4/rdna 3 hopefully. With a 50% increase performance per watt(heres hoping), full steam deck 15w performance on those devices at 10w with 50-60+wh battery should easily put future x86 devices in the 4-5hr battery range. I sold my deck, because even at 7-9w, 800p 30fps cap, lowest settings, fsr performance, i was getting 2-2.5hrs of battery life at best for aaa games. Battery is farrr from "being there" even on the deck imo.
1080p resolution on such a small screen?! Why people are still so obsessed about things that they wont see nor experience ... Considering how much output this hogs the same could be utilized to actually run things better and more things also save on battery life just by reducing the screen output. Even 720p or laptop notebook resolutions are overkill for such a small device. This was a thing for years now ever since 4K became a thing people bragging about having a 4K monitor even tho the size of the damn thing is like a tablet ... It's a waste of power and performance for such a small screen. For the same money you could buy a big screen 1080p monitor that actually utilize your PC capability and you don't waste electricity for nothing.
I agree, I don't generally play PC games in 1080p on this. But an upscale of retro systems to 1080p is definitely noticeably sharper than 720p, and I also prefer the sharper text from 1080p when using it for Windows PC tasks or navigating menus. So it is nice to have the option, even if I mostly game in 720p.
You mention about having to change TDP/ Resolution/FPS to butter the performance, depending on the game you're playing - is it possible to save "Profiles" for this, so you can just load a saved performance preset as and when needed, rather than menu dive? Many thanks for your content - love the calm vibe of this place ❤🙏🏻🍻 London UK
We're evolving a lot slower now. I thought we would be at $500-600 for devices at this power level by now. I would love the Win4 at that price. If I could get a good Windows experience on my Steam Deck, all these devices would be obsolete. I'll continue to monitor the used market for now.
We're not going to get Steam Deck prices for a while. The Deck is cheap because Valve is able to sell them at cost or even at a loss since they can make up the difference with game sales. The Deck also uses a custom chip with a cheaper CPU paired with a better GPU. None of these other companies can sell at a loss or make a deal with AMD for custom chips. We won't get Steam Deck prices until another big company like Microsoft starts to make their own handhelds like the Steam Deck.
@@KingOfMadCows _"None of these other companies can afford to sell at a loss"_ That's why I was initially so excited when I first heard the "new Sony handheld" rumour - my mind instantly went to cracking the thing and running emulation; because Sony _is_ one of those companies that can make a loss per unit, so we subsequently see some of the nicest tech on the market from them, so it would almost de-facto be probably the best (pure gaming) handheld on the market I'd *really* love a new, high end, premium af Sony handheld but apparently its just gonna be a PS streaming device, mainly 😪
@@unbearifiedbear1885 If Sony dared to make a proper handheld again I still doubt it would be better than the PC handhelds we have because they would target a 250-300$ price. Selling at a loss still mean we have a 400$ worth device. As much as I loved the PSP and the Vita, if Sony made a proper handheld again it would have to run PS4 and maybe even PS5 games straight out of the box for me to get one. The device itself downscaling PS4/5 games without any patch needed would mean giant library at launch and secured games for the future. You could have the most powerful device ever but without developers bothering to make games it's pretty useless.
Don’t know if it’s relevant or not-but can you produce a piece exclusively exploring the difference between Windows and SteamOS in terms of sustained performance as the battery drains? Word on the street is that Windows handhelds suffer the typical Windows power tax when the battery percentage drops low enough, and I’m curious what kind of real-world implications that holds for actual play time. For example, is there a “cut-off” percentage at which the unit still functions but performs degrades enough to restrict higher tiers of gaming otherwise possible with more juice (or plugged into the wall)? Not sure if I’m articulating that clearly, but essentially I’m curious about how these handhelds are sustaining that advertised performance in the face of notorious power saving throttling, even when such options are turned off? Less a hardware comparison proper and more an OS comparison of power management and sustained performance?
It's not about a specific % of battery as much as when you hit the point where you are draining more than what the battery can give. For example a 3.7v battery fully charged will give 4v and for most device it will work until it's down to 3.4v. I have an Odin Pro with Windows 11 installed. When I started gaming on it I would get 30min out of Skyrim before the screen would dim to minimum and performance would get terrible. At first I thought it was overheating but I realized that at 40-50% battery I was draining more than what the battery could do and Windows would go into a power saving mode to lower power consumption. An easy solution was to go in power settings and limit my CPU to 80% usage and lower screen brightness to 50% instead of the 65% that I used before. No more power saving problems after that until I was down to 10% battery.
I have it now since 5 days or so. But did not find so much time yet to get into it because of TOTK 😂 but i upgraded already the SSD which was quite complicated and i understand ayaneo‘s statement that this will void the warranty. Now fighting with windows… 🤢 hopefully chimeraos will be compatible with the air plus soon.
@@devinrobertson5251i also have a steam deck. And from my point of view steamos works really nice on that (working sleep function, working tdp control). But I got my steam deck when it had been out already for a while. And i know there had been many bugs in steamos in the beginning (which i missed, as it seems).
@hadouken2123 windows always had a working sleep function. This is a misnomer spread about by the Linux fanboys. Also, tdp control is possible on windows too. Literally anything you can do in steamOS, you can do on Windows, AND more
Thank you for the thorough review. I had pretty bad eyesight (-9.5) so even though I really liked the Air Pro, I had to sell it because it's very hard to play some content heavy games. I currently have the Ayaneo 2 and can read everything pretty easily but it's too big to carry around. I'm wondering if the content/fonts are readable on the Air Plus.
I'm probably not the target audience for this device since I'm only interested in emulation rather than PC gaming, but I am really looking forward to seeing what Aya Neo has to offer with the upcoming Android based Pocket Air! If they end up offering it with a Snapdragon 888 or similarly powerful chipset that can play the entire GameCube catalog full speed at 2x resolution then I'd certainly be willing to fork over $500+ for something that like =)
I feel like a bit of a n00b saying this. I've had a Steam Deck for about a year and I've never adjusted the TDP. Is the point JUST for battery? I mostly play 5-10 year old PC games that run great at max settings and when I play AAA titles from the last couple years I adjust the graphics to the highest settings that get at least 40fps. The battery can drain very quickly but I play mostly around the house. So the only reason to reduce the TDP would be if you travelled / were away from power sources?
Russ, Russ, Russ... You absolute fool. You could have put a scaled picture of the Win 4 on the screen or even printed on paper for the comparison. Tsk tsk tsk But anyways, great review dude lol
Stick out of your back pocket people cellphones .,Steam deck is not favorite for there crappy customer service I try make account on valve twice message I get email verify twice I song in email not found steam deck will never get money, they make to many handhelds in one year
I think they hit this out of the ball park but they also seem to be making alot of these devices. I'm getting confused with these models that have the same sounding name theme they have going on lol
Yes! One of the major reasons I haven't invested in a new device (already have a JB Vita), is the frequency of release; seems that every fortnight a new one comes out, each, slightly better than the last in some ways and also slightly worse! lol get it together, guys! All the pieces are there now for the perfect, _single_ Emu device, they just haven't all been unified..
AYANEO should have went budget friendly with the specs of the lower end models. I3/Mendocino chips 8gb ram, 2x 4gb ram cards(upgradeable) 128gb ssd nvme(upgradeable) 38wh-40wh battery 720p screen The lower end models should have been an Indie/low spec pc gaming dream machine. With up to 6th gen emulation on a real budget price. AYANEO dropped the ball and the Air Plus IGG will be AYANEO least successful project to date. They got too ambitious with the Air Plus.
I have an rog ally and an ayaneo air pro. I use the air pro when I'm out and about and the rog ally as my couch system. Should I upgrade my air pro to the air plus? I noticed it's $670 now on the aya site for 1tb 32GB
From 269 to 599 That's just too much If the price increased by $50 or $100 I'll probably understand but over doubling the price is unacceptable To me noo words can be used to explain what happened
Hey man if you could help me by answering. Im thinking of buying the rg405m and want to know how well Pokemon revolution online plays on it. Im looking for a handheld that plays online games. My phone does the job but i miss all the clicking. Or anyone out there using a handheld to play these pokemon online games
My Aya Neo air plus 6800u will no longer output to hdmi any solutions for this? I'm about to factory reset but if there's another option I'd love to hear it
Personally I feel that 5 1/2 inches is a great size, and I'm almost offended that you think 6 inch screens are better. There's basically no difference.
I already have the rg351p and for the next handheld console I get, I want a larger screen around 6 to 7 inches, and consoles that can at max play GameCube and the ps vita as it updates. :D
I think that this device shows that theres still room for ARM devices for those seeing better battery life. My red magic 8 pro can play ps2 all day at 3x. A lot better than the steam deck or any handheld pc that I own... Including my gpd win max 2
Just imagine if Sony took this sort of level of chip set and got good custom firmware out of it. They might even be able to get decent PS4 level playability running natively. The whole PS5 over wireless support on their new rumored handheld is just so unappealing. You can use other devices like your phone with a bluetooth controller to stream it already, so it seems really redundant if it's streaming only. But something that could natively play PS4 level? That would be amazing. O_o;
So yeh i watch your video lately, love it but except the battery test! I think you should test those device on the same game, same watt for more accuracy comparison. Look, try those device on god of war, gta5, elden ring, emulation-stuff and retro game for more easy compare, first video you play god of war this video you play ff7 last you play elden ring which this way make me more confuse. Still love your work, keep it better mate
Hey Russ!, love your video, but i am gonna give you some feedback. First i love the intro setting you do since the beginning of this year. The retro vibe of your couch and shelf are really cool, but i don't like when you are explaining the specs for this video. First you are to centered so we can't see the device, second you need to put some infographics in post production because that is really helpfull (you always did it on your green matt). So yea that is my feedback, hope you production improve for next. thanks
Hopefully, specs, pricing and release date for ROG ally drops soon. There is no way I would pledge $800+ for an indiegogo. At least buying from Bestbuy is easier to buy, return, service. Too risky to buy from ayaneo or ayn.
Hi Russ, hope this gets to you. Needed your guidance to factory restore my Ayaneo air plus 7320u model. Went thru some comments from Reddit but they don't work. Thank you in advance
If the upcoming ASUS handheld price and availability rumors are true Ayn is in trouble, especially the so-called budget models. I plan to buy the $400 Steamdeck model as the screen is easier for me to see.
Any help would be appreciated I use the Aya Neo Air Plus as my main pc now and the handheld's microsd card reader slot has stopped detecting my SanDisk Extreme Plus 1tb microsd card. Any ideas?
I REALLY wish it retained its original pricepoint. I wanted a smaller and cheaper windows handheld but I guess i will just go for the bigger handheld, the upcoming rog all which im hoping will be reasonably priced and well stocked so the filthy scalpers wont ruin the launch.
If Ayaneo could drop the price on the 6800u version to $600-$650 I’d drop my Ally preorder and get this instead. I want this for the size but I can’t pay more than the Ally at this point.
Honestly, I’d love to get this, but the price is pretty high so I’m gonna hold off until my income is better. Beside with how many handhelds ayaneo were made, they’ll probably make another iteration next year. Then I’ll see if I get that.
I love this review. These types of lighter, smaller x86 handhelds are exactly what I want in the future. I'm just waiting for the perfect one. This one is pretty close but not quite there. Hopefully their next iteration hits the mark.
it will be interesting to see what these "small" companies do now that big companies are focusing the handheld market, the phawx has a point that they will not have much space if they focus on indiegogo's campaings and the other companies can shell out on a best buy or a walmart.
Agreed. Like the Phawx said, devices which have different feature sets (e.g. Aya's NEXT 2 having a dedicated GPU) or exotic form factors (the Win Max 4's slideout keyboard) with comparable performance are probably going to be their only recourse, since straight power and price are going to be out of reach.
You hit the nail on the head in this video, that being performance vs battery life. For me, Valve got it right with the Steam Deck 800p screen and a more efficient custom System on a Chip over the more expensive Chinese competitors.
I disagree. The better the resolution of a screen you have, the more options you have available as a consumer. The screen is by far the worst part of the steamdeck. Companies didn't start increasing the resolution and quality of their displays for nothing. Consumers love a crisp screen with good accurate colors that pop. And if you are near an outlet, you have an option to play at the 1080p resolution. How is that bad?
@@rawdiggitydog I prefer native resolution and I don’t want to have to think about charging or having to be by an AC socket. Yes, the SD screen quality is iffy, but that’s not down to resolution, more about a cheaper LCD used to fit the price point. In my opinion, OLED is where it’s at (quality pixels over quantity) and that would have pushed the price too high.
@@modestyblaise4167 well it's your preference, but having the option to adjust your resolution will always be better. I get that y'all enjoy the steamdeck, but knocking a device because it has a better screen just doesn't make sense to me.
@@rawdiggitydog 7" 800p is quite crisp, to high resolution to small of a screen has the opposite effect. I can tell you don't have a steam deck if you think the screen is bad lmao
damn, I intend to use my heldhelds for fighting games 50% of the time, do you think the button issue is bad enough to avoid getting the Air+ then? or even a possible fix I could implement?
I really want one of these handheld PCs but as someone who pretty much knows nothing about PCs I'm worried about dropping all this money on something that's going to be outdated in a few years
Budget models aren’t so budget rn
This would’ve been the best device of the year if it started at $269.
What do you mean bro? It's just a small budget of $780!
The gpu market in a nutshell
To be fair, the budget model is higher spec'd than the high end deck.
@@77edwilsonoriginally, this was gonna be using a bunch of cheap parts and have an entry level medicino or i3 chip, for 280usd.
Unfortunately, the 6800u happened.
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It doesn't matter how powerful the handheld is. It usually comes down to price and the games you want to play.
I dont even like Ayaneo, but youre comparison makes zero sense. There are tons of PC gamers who would love to play portably, but didnt like tht almost every handheld was underpowered or had some kind of gimmick to keep interest. Also the ecosystems would always close off buying software outside of Sony and (mostly) Nintendo offerings, where once the console was dead in 5-7 years all the money you used to buy software was now gone
Devices like the Ayaneo, Steam Deck, etc solve all these problems, and don't try to penny pinch you for every $ after you buy the hardware one time, and each piece of software one more time. On top of that, they solve the lack of legacy software support due to emulation being available without jailbreaking. None of them aim to sell 10s of millions of units, only Valve could potentially keep up with that demand.
90% of Nintendo fans who love their Nintendo handhelds since the Gameboy are ok with the console life cycle/power restraints and like an easy experience. Nothing wrong with that. But dont be telling these portable PC manufacturers they gotta dumb down their products. Even at $300 an Ayaneo isnt selling millions of units from Indiegogo campaigns shipped from Hong Kong lol
Sweet review. Thanks! I’m probably gonna wait for the ROG Ally. I’m pretty happy with my modded Switch currently.
look at The Phawx videos about ROG Ally, before you fall to much for the marketing... It's really not going to be what people expect since they are overselling what a handheld GPU can offer by using specs and clever wording.
@@PixelShade sure it won't do 120 fps (people expecting that are just fooling themselves honestly) and Asus marketing is... well it's Asus marketing.
However. What will be really interesting to see is how it does at 5watts, 7 watts and 10 watts.
Because perf per watt should be quite a bit better with that rdna3 iGPU.
Personally don't care for that device, have plenty of gaming gear and I don't like the look of the Ally, but I'm certainly curious about the progress in perf per watt.
For example since it's a game in this video: Ori and the will of the wisps should be playable at under 10 watts on the Zen4/rdna3 APU where here with the 6800U you have to pump it up to at least 15 watts to have good enough performance. Same with Control if you can have it at 15 watts for a 720p60 instead of having to go for 28/30 watts.
This is where the main advantage will reside, not in providing that much power, but providing same power at a much lower wattage.
@@Allyouknow5820 I'm with you mate. I'm extremely curious about the performance/watt improvements as well. Unfortunately I am getting a feeling it actually won't be as much as people expect. Looking at the difference between Zen2 and Zen3 in some cases there's only ~12% IPC improvement, with blender showing a result of 5%. which is still great as both were 7nm chips, But ultimately it wouldn't do a massive performance difference on a low TDP chip in gaming. I am actually very curious of what will happen between RDNA3 and RDNA2, since the current RDNA3 chips draw A LOT of power. So question is what kind of efficiency improvement we can expect.
I honestly think Valve and AMD went with Zen2 since it could be much easier scaled down into a low powered APU. AMD had Zen3 design ready but still figured Zen2 would be better for the Steam Deck. Whatever they choose the APU would still be developed on TSMCs 7nm node, causing any efficiency gain to be quite small.
@@PixelShade regarding the CPU, it actually doesn't matter that much, and Valve rightly recognized that, betting on a more performant GPU and bandwidth (because bandwidth is the absolute most important thing in those mobile chips).
Whether RDNA3 is really efficient, I think it is, because once you scale down the clocks the efficiency curve goes back in your favour.
The problem is that both Nvidia and AMD have now took the habit of just pushing those clocks for basically bragging rights. Just look at the recent 4070 which does about 3080 performance, but while consuming 100/150 watts less.
We'll see with the Ally and others, but given it is on a 4nm process and that RDNA2 was already an efficiency champ, I think it will deliver good surprises on that front.
But again if people are expecting more performance as opposed to better perf per watt, they will be disappointed.
@@PixelShade The phawx was only talking about how the marketing could build unrealistic expectations. The ally will still probably have a very competitive price, be the most powerful handheld and maybe also powerefficient, and the customer support will be miles ahead of what these companies should realistically do.
The huge price increases are what really spoils it for me. Regardless of the reason, heavily promoting products at a certain price and then substantially changing it is very disappointing, i was looking forward to the lower spec model. it just becomes impossible to recommend this at $800. also just cements the steam deck as the best value period.
I personally ordered one because of the small size compared to the Steam Deck.
I can understand your disappointment with the lower spec model, I was really excited to buy one.
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A direct comparison between this and the GPD Win 4 is gonna be very interesting.
I've been loving my Win 4 so far, but I gotta say it is a bit of a thiccer device. A tad chonky even.
So I'd love to see them compared in ergonomics and stuff.
i own this device for about 3 months. I have to say... its not good at all. Although better spec than my steam deck. The temperature is extremely hot after 15mins of game play, i contact ayaneo thinking its a defect but they say its... normal and advise to play with charging plugged in. It can't play most AAA games without flickers. I tried the lowest setting in Resident evil 4 remake and it crashes and reboots when the temperature gets too hot. Battery is also a joke, the device drains much faster than it charges. i can't finish a hour of game play without constantly checking the battery health. Stay away..
I hope this doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, but I just want to say the artist who tattooed the irezumi on your arm did a wonderful job! I can make out the intricate details even with just brief glimpses. The haikei behind the ryu is exceptionally well done with various gradients of bokashi, both subtle and bold.
Thanks, yeah I'm very happy with it, and it looks great even though it's about 10 years old now. Believe it or not, the artist did it freehand as well; he sketched the dragon initially and then just filled in the rest on the fly.
I wish all these new competing x86 handheld would also compete with the steam decks controls. While a more powerful and smaller handheld seems nice. I'm not sure I want to give up trackpads and especially gyro for them. It's also looking like Valve made some really smart choices when it came to what's in the deck and price. I'm disappointed we're not getting a $300 ayaneo's anymore more. I want really considering a mendocino one as something more portable than my deck.
I like the size of devices like this over tbe Steam Deck (as a Steam Deck owner this thing is massive) but the price plus the fact that the Deck is made by a huge American company I feel is better
Thank you for doing the performance review at reasonable TDPs / frame caps. There's no use in something being portable if it isn't practical to use it portably, and battery life forms a significant part of whether or not a portable device is practical. It's nice to have the option to crank everything up when connected to a power source, but since these devices are not marketed as 'stationary gaming handhelds', it doesn't make sense to review them that way either. That's not to say that I think the maximum performance of these devices shouldn't be demonstrated, but rather that the bulk of the performance review should focus on the more realistic use case.
This is why I still haven't been able to get interested in x86 handhelds. To get any real performance benefit over Android the battery life drops so much that it's barely even portable anymore.
I really like having USB-C ports at both the top and the bottom. That way I can just stay plugged in when I want to crank up the settings but am still able to avoid the power cable getting in the way!
This basically outlines why most of us, even with money went and got a Steam Deck instead.... $1299 for a well spec'd Ayaneo is more than an ASUS Tuf RTX 3070 ti laptop right now, on top of the fact that this will often have to run things in 720p and achieves barely 5-15 more fps in games than the SD....I just cant get myself to pay those prices....maybe the Rog Ally will change that. Plus it has back paddles/buttons which is a must for some gamers....
Well if you think about it, steam deck is community driven nd supported even before steamdeck was a thing, proton db allowed most of the games to run on linux. Yes Steam deck is not as powerful as the others but the amount of support from community will allow the development of the software longevity. Ayaneo and other competitors are pushing spec like smarphone but once a new iteration of it comes out the support for the software will be forgotten.
Nice review, Russ. For me, i'm out when it comes to PC-Handhelds, they are too pricey. The Upper End for me are Linux/Android Handhelds like the RP3+. I still hope for a 7"-Device to materialize from Anbernic or Retroid. I'd never pay more than €250 for a Handheld, though.
I've been following the handheld PC market, pretty closely, since the GPD Win 2 and I just can't help but be amazed at how many fantastic options we have now. It really feels like a whole different market or like we're entering some sort of golden age.
I know that chinese companies are more into flooding the market with copies of the same product than any kind of innovation, but I'm here wondering why didn't anyone try out a damn right trackpad now the Steam Deck (and the Steam Controller before) proved is essential for a decent PC gaming experience
"wait for something else from them in the future" with Aya isn't that just a 10 minute wait before the next one? 😀
This is on sale for $269. We thinking it’s worth it now? I’m very intrigued to have a device like this!
rather than faff about finding optimum settings regarding FPS and battery life, to save all the bother why not just connect it to a powerbank?
We really need Phoenix. 6800U is getting long in the tooth by now. Hopefully the Ayaneo 2 Next with the 7840u will launch this month, and we also have the AOKZOE A1 Pro with Phoenix. Most importantly we have the Rog Ally with its supposedly imminent launch, and alleged price of just $650 to match the steam deck highest model (But ofcourse it will obliterate it with a Phoenix Apu in terms of performance).
It's worth noting with the button diameters, since you're more concerned with the actual area of the buttons, and area is proportional to radius squared, that 0.5mm increase in radius should result in about a 30% increase to the area - which is definitely a noticeable jump.
Genuinely I understand this most when it comes to watches. A mm doesn’t sound like much, but in practice a mm or two really seems like a lot.
AYA and AYN are never going to dominate the market. It's too expensive all the time. Steam Deck will never be beaten unless they can learn to take a hit and sell it a lower cost.
I agree!
The problem with undercutting Valve is it’s going to be near impossible for any competitor to even match the value the Deck provides. Valve can lose a lot of margin on each Steam Deck, given the platform is built on Steam and they’re going to make back that margin through software sales. I was a beta tester for Steam before its full release and while I know they’ve had their problems, they are the ubiquitous platform for PC gaming and it’s unlikely they will ever lose the top spot. Long story short, I completely agree that the Deck is likely to never be dethroned as the most affordable, price versus performance handheld. Even Asus’s new handheld has a tough battle to fight.
Here's hoping for ROG Ally to come in the $600-900 market and make AYA irrelevant.
With the feature set you get with the GPD Win4, I canceled my Loki preorder and bit the bullet. I'm happy I did. The keyboard is a game changer.
I have an Odin pro and loved it but it made me crave a more powerful device. When I started looking at the Windows based handheld I was checking the Loki first but without any clear release date it was hard to settle on it. The SteamDeck is too big for my taste and the Ayaneo 2 is way too expensive for the features. I too went with the GPD Win 4 in the end. You never realize how useful a physical keyboard can be for PC games until you don't have one. I put Windows 11 on my Odin and it can run Skyrim decently. I had to plug in a physical keyboard just to name my character at the start because it can't be done with a controller and I couldn't get the on screen keyboard to work in games.
@@chamoo232 Same. I had the Loki preordered on a discount since I purchased the Odin Pro. I’m glad I switched. AYN hasn’t even started shipping while GPD caught up. I also own a steam deck and I constantly had to plug it in because the on screen keyboard is not a great option.
The "budget models" might as well not exists, if you can afford one of those you can also throw away the money on the expensive one. 300€ was a stretch for what these things are, at that price they can just shove it up their arse and be done with it.
We'll see if one of the other companies can do a better job, but I rather doubt that any of them can really compete with the steam deck in the long run.
"Hey everybody, this is Russ from Retro Game Corps" have become my favorite words to hear while having a cup of coffee in the morning.
I haven't been following emulation or portables for a while but the fact that you can run Switch and PS3 games at near full speed on a relatively cheaper portable is crazy to me.
Ouch. Way too much money. Thanks for the review.
I'm waiting for one of these handheld PCs to have a Sega Saturn style d-pad. It seems like a lot of them (including Steam Deck) have either a so-so d-pad or they're absolutely horrible.
Battery life is the unsolvable barrier for x86 handhelds. Steam deck is still the best in that regard and it's getting old.
One thing to consider is something like local streaming on an android handheld if you already have a gaming PC. I optimized my network for it and played about 6 hours of Elden Ring at max settings 60 FPS downsampled from 1440p on my Retroid Pocket 3+ yesterday, one room away from my PC, and the latency was perfect with no stutters, with the battery still at 30% after those 6 hours of playing a high end PC game.
Sure it's not really portable, I can't leave the house and do this, but I don't play anything when out of the house anyway and if I do it's something quick like Vampire Survivors or GBC/GBA emulation which will run on ARM fine, so...
Battery life will get there with zen4/rdna 3 hopefully. With a 50% increase performance per watt(heres hoping), full steam deck 15w performance on those devices at 10w with 50-60+wh battery should easily put future x86 devices in the 4-5hr battery range. I sold my deck, because even at 7-9w, 800p 30fps cap, lowest settings, fsr performance, i was getting 2-2.5hrs of battery life at best for aaa games. Battery is farrr from "being there" even on the deck imo.
How are you streaming to your Android? I have a razer blade and I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
jesus the steam deck looks ridiculously big in comparison all while the screen isn't actually bigger
1080p resolution on such a small screen?! Why people are still so obsessed about things that they wont see nor experience ...
Considering how much output this hogs the same could be utilized to actually run things better and more things also save on battery life just by reducing the screen output.
Even 720p or laptop notebook resolutions are overkill for such a small device.
This was a thing for years now ever since 4K became a thing people bragging about having a 4K monitor even tho the size of the damn thing is like a tablet ... It's a waste of power and performance for such a small screen. For the same money you could buy a big screen 1080p monitor that actually utilize your PC capability and you don't waste electricity for nothing.
I agree, I don't generally play PC games in 1080p on this. But an upscale of retro systems to 1080p is definitely noticeably sharper than 720p, and I also prefer the sharper text from 1080p when using it for Windows PC tasks or navigating menus. So it is nice to have the option, even if I mostly game in 720p.
You mention about having to change TDP/ Resolution/FPS to butter the performance, depending on the game you're playing - is it possible to save "Profiles" for this, so you can just load a saved performance preset as and when needed, rather than menu dive?
Many thanks for your content - love the calm vibe of this place
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Nevermind! Just got to the Jelos section and per core/per game settings... when will I learn to watch the whole video before asking a question? 😂🤦♂️
I watch these reviews like i can afford these devices 😂
this thing was not designed for human hands. anyone with taste can immediately see that.
The steam deck looks massive in your hands, is it really that big?
Russ saying that every international plug is for Antarctica is my favorite running joke right now.
Did he just say an outlet adapter was for "Antarctica"? 😂
We're evolving a lot slower now. I thought we would be at $500-600 for devices at this power level by now. I would love the Win4 at that price. If I could get a good Windows experience on my Steam Deck, all these devices would be obsolete. I'll continue to monitor the used market for now.
We're not going to get Steam Deck prices for a while. The Deck is cheap because Valve is able to sell them at cost or even at a loss since they can make up the difference with game sales. The Deck also uses a custom chip with a cheaper CPU paired with a better GPU. None of these other companies can sell at a loss or make a deal with AMD for custom chips.
We won't get Steam Deck prices until another big company like Microsoft starts to make their own handhelds like the Steam Deck.
@@KingOfMadCows _"None of these other companies can afford to sell at a loss"_
That's why I was initially so excited when I first heard the "new Sony handheld" rumour - my mind instantly went to cracking the thing and running emulation; because Sony _is_ one of those companies that can make a loss per unit, so we subsequently see some of the nicest tech on the market from them, so it would almost de-facto be probably the best (pure gaming) handheld on the market
I'd *really* love a new, high end, premium af Sony handheld but apparently its just gonna be a PS streaming device, mainly 😪
@@unbearifiedbear1885 If Sony dared to make a proper handheld again I still doubt it would be better than the PC handhelds we have because they would target a 250-300$ price. Selling at a loss still mean we have a 400$ worth device. As much as I loved the PSP and the Vita, if Sony made a proper handheld again it would have to run PS4 and maybe even PS5 games straight out of the box for me to get one. The device itself downscaling PS4/5 games without any patch needed would mean giant library at launch and secured games for the future. You could have the most powerful device ever but without developers bothering to make games it's pretty useless.
@@unbearifiedbear1885 Don't you know Sony? It's probably going be aheavily limited experience.
Don’t know if it’s relevant or not-but can you produce a piece exclusively exploring the difference between Windows and SteamOS in terms of sustained performance as the battery drains? Word on the street is that Windows handhelds suffer the typical Windows power tax when the battery percentage drops low enough, and I’m curious what kind of real-world implications that holds for actual play time. For example, is there a “cut-off” percentage at which the unit still functions but performs degrades enough to restrict higher tiers of gaming otherwise possible with more juice (or plugged into the wall)? Not sure if I’m articulating that clearly, but essentially I’m curious about how these handhelds are sustaining that advertised performance in the face of notorious power saving throttling, even when such options are turned off? Less a hardware comparison proper and more an OS comparison of power management and sustained performance?
It's not about a specific % of battery as much as when you hit the point where you are draining more than what the battery can give. For example a 3.7v battery fully charged will give 4v and for most device it will work until it's down to 3.4v. I have an Odin Pro with Windows 11 installed. When I started gaming on it I would get 30min out of Skyrim before the screen would dim to minimum and performance would get terrible. At first I thought it was overheating but I realized that at 40-50% battery I was draining more than what the battery could do and Windows would go into a power saving mode to lower power consumption. An easy solution was to go in power settings and limit my CPU to 80% usage and lower screen brightness to 50% instead of the 65% that I used before. No more power saving problems after that until I was down to 10% battery.
@@chamoo232 thank you for that insight, much appreciated!
Am just crazy to dislike the rounded buttons of the steam deck/Xbox controller? They hurt or are at least uncomfortable to press.
I have it now since 5 days or so. But did not find so much time yet to get into it because of TOTK 😂 but i upgraded already the SSD which was quite complicated and i understand ayaneo‘s statement that this will void the warranty.
Now fighting with windows… 🤢 hopefully chimeraos will be compatible with the air plus soon.
Windows over Linux any day. I took that nasty shit off of steam deck after a month of BS. Windows is SO much better, cleaner, etc.
@@devinrobertson5251i also have a steam deck. And from my point of view steamos works really nice on that (working sleep function, working tdp control). But I got my steam deck when it had been out already for a while. And i know there had been many bugs in steamos in the beginning (which i missed, as it seems).
@hadouken2123 windows always had a working sleep function. This is a misnomer spread about by the Linux fanboys. Also, tdp control is possible on windows too. Literally anything you can do in steamOS, you can do on Windows, AND more
Hey Russ, excellent review! What software do you use to get the overlay with your FPS and other readings?
MSI Afterburner/RTSS
Thank you for the thorough review. I had pretty bad eyesight (-9.5) so even though I really liked the Air Pro, I had to sell it because it's very hard to play some content heavy games. I currently have the Ayaneo 2 and can read everything pretty easily but it's too big to carry around. I'm wondering if the content/fonts are readable on the Air Plus.
I'm probably not the target audience for this device since I'm only interested in emulation rather than PC gaming, but I am really looking forward to seeing what Aya Neo has to offer with the upcoming Android based Pocket Air! If they end up offering it with a Snapdragon 888 or similarly powerful chipset that can play the entire GameCube catalog full speed at 2x resolution then I'd certainly be willing to fork over $500+ for something that like =)
If money isn't an issue, you should definitely get a RM8 Pro. It's amazing at emulating and native android games.
I feel like a bit of a n00b saying this. I've had a Steam Deck for about a year and I've never adjusted the TDP. Is the point JUST for battery? I mostly play 5-10 year old PC games that run great at max settings and when I play AAA titles from the last couple years I adjust the graphics to the highest settings that get at least 40fps. The battery can drain very quickly but I play mostly around the house. So the only reason to reduce the TDP would be if you travelled / were away from power sources?
I like how they have the name in the wallpaper so they can tell what it is when shipping it out
I'm gonna try to keep this video as short as possible.
40+ minutes.
Still love your videos :-)
Russ, Russ, Russ... You absolute fool. You could have put a scaled picture of the Win 4 on the screen or even printed on paper for the comparison. Tsk tsk tsk
But anyways, great review dude lol
Stick out of your back pocket people cellphones .,Steam deck is not favorite for there crappy customer service I try make account on valve twice message I get email verify twice I song in email not found steam deck will never get money, they make to many handhelds in one year
Not worth it at all in my opinion.
Love your approach on reviewing products
I think they hit this out of the ball park but they also seem to be making alot of these devices. I'm getting confused with these models that have the same sounding name theme they have going on lol
Yes! One of the major reasons I haven't invested in a new device (already have a JB Vita), is the frequency of release; seems that every fortnight a new one comes out, each, slightly better than the last in some ways and also slightly worse!
lol get it together, guys! All the pieces are there now for the perfect, _single_ Emu device, they just haven't all been unified..
AYANEO should have went budget friendly with the specs of the lower end models.
I3/Mendocino chips
8gb ram, 2x 4gb ram cards(upgradeable)
128gb ssd nvme(upgradeable)
38wh-40wh battery
720p screen
The lower end models should have been an Indie/low spec pc gaming dream machine. With up to 6th gen emulation on a real budget price.
AYANEO dropped the ball and the Air Plus IGG will be AYANEO least successful project to date. They got too ambitious with the Air Plus.
Playing game at 30fps on 120hz display ... Totally worth it
I have an rog ally and an ayaneo air pro. I use the air pro when I'm out and about and the rog ally as my couch system.
Should I upgrade my air pro to the air plus? I noticed it's $670 now on the aya site for 1tb 32GB
From 269 to 599
That's just too much
If the price increased by $50 or $100
I'll probably understand but over doubling the price is unacceptable
To me noo words can be used to explain what happened
Hey man if you could help me by answering. Im thinking of buying the rg405m and want to know how well Pokemon revolution online plays on it. Im looking for a handheld that plays online games. My phone does the job but i miss all the clicking. Or anyone out there using a handheld to play these pokemon online games
Would this be worth it in 2024 for the 6800U/16GB/512GB? I am looking to play games like God of War/Devil may cry/Persona 5 Reloaded at 720p.
My Aya Neo air plus 6800u will no longer output to hdmi any solutions for this? I'm about to factory reset but if there's another option I'd love to hear it
Hello, for you it is worth it 900€ ?... This is the price I will have to pay to import it in my country (base price + 21% VAT and customs fees...)
Personally I feel that 5 1/2 inches is a great size, and I'm almost offended that you think 6 inch screens are better. There's basically no difference.
I already have the rg351p and for the next handheld console I get, I want a larger screen around 6 to 7 inches, and consoles that can at max play GameCube and the ps vita as it updates. :D
lol I certainly hope having boot options is unlocked in the final unit, otherwise you're fully boned for any system drive upgrade or recovery options.
Does anyone know if the FX audio app is available to use on an android device, specifically the Odin Lite. Asking for a friend
The OLED is superior.
$780!? OUT YO DAYUM MIND!
I find 2 hours is kind of the max playtime for me as a busy dad. This looks neat, but the price is off putting.
Parang namanifest ko to bigla kasi nakita ko ung lumang ps2 namin at nilaro ko, cracy how this world works
i dont buy too many units and this isnt a big enough jump from what i got.
The review that i was waiting for !!! i want to have my handheld fast, i just bought the "advance" version, cannot wait to play PS2 on it.
I think that this device shows that theres still room for ARM devices for those seeing better battery life.
My red magic 8 pro can play ps2 all day at 3x.
A lot better than the steam deck or any handheld pc that I own... Including my gpd win max 2
I don't recommend ordering anything from AYN, I doubt I'll ever see my Loki Zero 😆
hello, i have a bug when starting games on steam the imagen turns upside down. Any way to solve it?
why would you stick any handheld in your pocket and destroy the joysticks. Think people think!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE BATTERY LIFE TEST HOLY SHIT
You are one of the few rare tech youtubers who do battery life tests
I mean right. How could they miss one of the most important aspect of a handheld device ? Lol
Why do they even bother making the lower end model if nobody is buying it at that retail price.
He reminds me of the guy from Interstellar. The one that got hit by that big tidal wave.
Just imagine if Sony took this sort of level of chip set and got good custom firmware out of it. They might even be able to get decent PS4 level playability running natively. The whole PS5 over wireless support on their new rumored handheld is just so unappealing. You can use other devices like your phone with a bluetooth controller to stream it already, so it seems really redundant if it's streaming only. But something that could natively play PS4 level? That would be amazing. O_o;
Excuse me I would like the games are included if download free or not please help me🥺
So yeh i watch your video lately, love it but except the battery test!
I think you should test those device on the same game, same watt for more accuracy comparison.
Look, try those device on god of war, gta5, elden ring, emulation-stuff and retro game for more easy compare, first video you play god of war this video you play ff7 last you play elden ring which this way make me more confuse.
Still love your work, keep it better mate
10k mAh battery so nice man. Industry standard!!! Cmon!!!! So. Nice.
Hey Russ!, love your video, but i am gonna give you some feedback. First i love the intro setting you do since the beginning of this year. The retro vibe of your couch and shelf are really cool, but i don't like when you are explaining the specs for this video. First you are to centered so we can't see the device, second you need to put some infographics in post production because that is really helpfull (you always did it on your green matt). So yea that is my feedback, hope you production improve for next. thanks
Hopefully, specs, pricing and release date for ROG ally drops soon. There is no way I would pledge $800+ for an indiegogo. At least buying from Bestbuy is easier to buy, return, service. Too risky to buy from ayaneo or ayn.
At 21mins in is that PWM we are setting on the Pro?
Hi Russ, hope this gets to you. Needed your guidance to factory restore my Ayaneo air plus 7320u model. Went thru some comments from Reddit but they don't work. Thank you in advance
If the upcoming ASUS handheld price and availability rumors are true Ayn is in trouble, especially the so-called budget models. I plan to buy the $400 Steamdeck model as the screen is easier for me to see.
Any help would be appreciated I use the Aya Neo Air Plus as my main pc now and the handheld's microsd card reader slot has stopped detecting my SanDisk Extreme Plus 1tb microsd card. Any ideas?
I REALLY wish it retained its original pricepoint. I wanted a smaller and cheaper windows handheld but I guess i will just go for the bigger handheld, the upcoming rog all which im hoping will be reasonably priced and well stocked so the filthy scalpers wont ruin the launch.
Our 512gb + 16gb GPD Win 4 is on the way (dhl tracking has it will land to Cincinnati today). Did you receive your tracking number to Hawaii?
If Ayaneo could drop the price on the 6800u version to $600-$650 I’d drop my Ally preorder and get this instead. I want this for the size but I can’t pay more than the Ally at this point.
Honestly, I’d love to get this, but the price is pretty high so I’m gonna hold off until my income is better. Beside with how many handhelds ayaneo were made, they’ll probably make another iteration next year. Then I’ll see if I get that.
I love this review. These types of lighter, smaller x86 handhelds are exactly what I want in the future. I'm just waiting for the perfect one. This one is pretty close but not quite there. Hopefully their next iteration hits the mark.
it will be interesting to see what these "small" companies do now that big companies are focusing the handheld market, the phawx has a point that they will not have much space if they focus on indiegogo's campaings and the other companies can shell out on a best buy or a walmart.
Agreed. Like the Phawx said, devices which have different feature sets (e.g. Aya's NEXT 2 having a dedicated GPU) or exotic form factors (the Win Max 4's slideout keyboard) with comparable performance are probably going to be their only recourse, since straight power and price are going to be out of reach.
I feel like you're trying to sell me the ROG Ally 🤤
Do you ever do giveaways of your million devices? Asking for a friend 😂
You hit the nail on the head in this video, that being performance vs battery life. For me, Valve got it right with the Steam Deck 800p screen and a more efficient custom System on a Chip over the more expensive Chinese competitors.
And for performance, the ally is coming anyway. Who knows cost tho
I disagree. The better the resolution of a screen you have, the more options you have available as a consumer. The screen is by far the worst part of the steamdeck. Companies didn't start increasing the resolution and quality of their displays for nothing. Consumers love a crisp screen with good accurate colors that pop. And if you are near an outlet, you have an option to play at the 1080p resolution. How is that bad?
@@rawdiggitydog I prefer native resolution and I don’t want to have to think about charging or having to be by an AC socket. Yes, the SD screen quality is iffy, but that’s not down to resolution, more about a cheaper LCD used to fit the price point. In my opinion, OLED is where it’s at (quality pixels over quantity) and that would have pushed the price too high.
@@modestyblaise4167 well it's your preference, but having the option to adjust your resolution will always be better. I get that y'all enjoy the steamdeck, but knocking a device because it has a better screen just doesn't make sense to me.
@@rawdiggitydog 7" 800p is quite crisp, to high resolution to small of a screen has the opposite effect. I can tell you don't have a steam deck if you think the screen is bad lmao
Hey loving your videos. What would you recommend for an emulator that looks neat and plays PS2 & GC but not too expansive like $800?
damn, I intend to use my heldhelds for fighting games 50% of the time, do you think the button issue is bad enough to avoid getting the Air+ then? or even a possible fix I could implement?
I really want one of these handheld PCs but as someone who pretty much knows nothing about PCs I'm worried about dropping all this money on something that's going to be outdated in a few years
22:18 А что , как ты изменил цвет у steamdeck , виниловые наклейки ?
Расскажи пожалуйста.