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Transport Fleet of Indian Airforce - Problems & Solutions
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Yes and the air force will buy one of these type in speed ki light before 2090 👍🏻👍🏻
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❤️de tera baap ke pass paise ka ped hai?
Tu jyada janta hai ya IAF?
Something tells me even Alpha’s grandchildren will still be discussing on this aircraft procurement 🙂
Yeh Speed ki light ka Chakkar kya hai
@@prashuryaprotimboruah4928 speed of light is the fastest speed ever measured and recorded. He is making fun of our defence procurement.
You missed one point here. South Korea is developing Strategic Heavy Lift 80 Ton category aircraft. We need to partner with them for this project.
For the next 8-10 years, our priority in terms of Air Power would be more tilted towards building up Sq. numbers via Tejas Mk2 & MRFA (which will eat almost 80% of IAFs budget). Apart from Sq. numbers, IAF is looking at acquiring more second hand Refuellers & AWACS (which I genuinely feel is a good idea). Add to that building on Air Defence capabilities by acquiring XR SAM & Akash NG.
Other areas where we would be spending good sum of money include the Super Sukhoi Programme, development of AMCA & IMRH etc.
Keeping all this in mind, we have very little funds left to acquire big strategic Aircrafts like A 400 & even if we do, it won't likely be in big numbers.
I guess we can use the same Mig 29 route, also being planned for Su 30 i.e Comprehensive upgrade Avionics & EW Suite of IL76 being done by DRDO while negotiating with Russia for upgradation of engines of IL 76.
It's important to keep IL 76 in service for another 10-15 years & for that Engine Upgrade is a must. Engine upgrade would also improve it's serviceability quite a bit.
IL 76 along with C 17 will take care of our Strategic Airlift capability, specially while facing a 2 front threat for the next 10-15 yrs.
Indian govt should invest heavy in aircraft manufacturing be it fighters or transport military and civilian. We are one of the largest consumers we simply cannot let our consumption be used against us.
More and more new airlines are opening and military requirements are also growing
Boss this is the time to explore the possibility to make statagic airlifter .where we can have leap series engine if we can make fighter aircraft so we can make airlifter . And we have requirement at least 50 for transport fleet 15 to 20 for air to air refeuling and 10 - 15 for awacs but all this requires political power and no defense dallal jai Hind
@John Hero 🤡 ok ex-fart
Ideally Russia should sign an MOU with 2-3 private Indian companies to produce all their engines in India. This will help them in a big way.
It takes a large ecosystem to build engines. Its not a simple device.
@@prashanthb6521 heard of Godrej building the Kaveri engine for testing ??
C-17 Globemaster is the best heavy transport aircraft in the world. But C-17 Globemaster production has been already stopped. In spite of it, Indian Air Force can purchase used C-17 Globemaster from US Air Force. Because more than 100 C-17 Globemaster are existed in US Air Force fleet. So India Govt should purchase more 20 used C-17 Globemaster heavy transport Aircrafts from US Air Force fleet. I think it's only one solution to increase fleet of C-17 Globemaster heavy transport aircrafts in Indian Air Force transport aircraft fleet..
Only if US wants to sell them
only if usaf will sell them, which is not happening they want to it more.
The USAF are wanting 20 more and you are saying they will sell us 20
This is good, make more "Problems and Solutions" videos, perhaps start a series on this theme, also ask subscribers to provide suggestive comments on Problems that Indian Military is facing!
This Embraer the best in the market
India should anyhow dodge the sanctions and comprehensively upgrade the IL 76 work horses.
No. They're unreliable as hell. Many personnel have stated this. The airforce itself uses the C-17 for everything it'd use the Il-76 for. We need to avoid them like the plague
JAI HIND 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
Very food video of showing transport fleet of Indian Airforce..
Jai Hind Jai Bharat
Very well explained
Govt and private sectors both are facing financial crunch. Better is SPV model for heavy investment where everyone will contribute financially and Technically.
The problem is, there aren't much heavy lifters. There was C-17 whose doors are closed. New IL-76 probably not after russian invasion and reliability issues.
Another good option was AN-124.
then there are super heavy lifters, C-5 galaxy and AN-225 which are probably unnecessary and too expensive for IAF.
AN 124 is the only choice with availability.
Have a que , we know C17 production is stopped but we know there r 100s of such aircraft present in boneyard and its said they r maintained with time so that they can be used in emergency , so cant we buy some from there and modify with things that are required ?
C17s are not in the "boneyard". Only old aircraft which the USAF does not use anymore are kept their. But the USAF though they have almost 150 C17 want even more and are not going to retire their C17s any time soon, thus you won't find any in the boneyard
We should choose Emberer
And make this in India like TATA making C 295
Hope we will soon "learn" the art of reverse manufacturing.
We should avoid IL76 like the plague. Low availability and unreliability is not a good sign.
Every time we hear of airlift and cargo ops by our armed forces we always see the Globemasters and Hercules.
We should seriously consider going for the Airbus co production on the lines of C295. We have the expertise with Tata and Airbus..
@SRDR availablity and quality spares is a problem with almost every Russian aircraft. Ever wonder why there is no commercial aircraft in Russia.. I will tell not for lack of trying... Russians knew thier commercial passenger jets would not last and in past can't even pass safety checks
Airbus/ Embraer k sath c17 category ka plane co develope karna chahiye.
C295
@@marcusaureliusanonymous lol Sukhoi has already made it but it seems like you don't know about lobbying. Sukhoi also offers its jet with American and European engine but Airbus and Boeing have lobby and they don't allow the agencies to allow to sell thier aircrafts in European and American market. China also made but it's more or less copy of Boeing aircrafts and they both struggling to get safety checks due to lobby. Except few countries like India, China, and Russia whole world follows American and European Air safety agencies thats why they know developing a Commercial jet is not profitable due to lobby
@@sparkly3989 10 rubles from the topless horse rider 👍
Our only options for stratagic lifters are A400M or Il 476
either we can upgrade our current fleet or buy new airframes however in the current situation this russian solution is not possible..one more option is we buy c17s from USAFs storage but its highly unlikely.
@John Hero cost maybe an issue with japan like US2
In Light Catagory Transport Aircrafts like Abro and AN-32 has a Good Alternative...
C-295 is One of the Best in its Class...
For Medium catagory Aircrafts
If Super Hercules is not Ordered In Additional Numbers,
Then Embraer C-390 will be Best Option for IAF.
The Problem is with Heavy Lift Aircrafts...
Only 11 GlobeMasters are in Service...
We need to search for Local solutions to Upgrade IL-76/78
If Those get Upgraded then It will Provide a Big Punch to Our Air Force...
👍 Jay hind 🇮🇳
Only way to upgrade them is now to retrofit them with comparable western engines similar to D30 of IL76 or just get new engines from Russia,rest for avionics,subsystems replace them with compitable western subsystems.
Next,IL76 are already 35+ years old & soon they are scheduled to be retired by mid of next decade,so time to search for alternatives now.
Now,no other platforms are available in its category,so India need to buy the entire design of An 70 from Antonov,(An 170 variant)which is cash stripped for now & manufacture them locally,using Indian & western components,with western engines,avionics & subsystems.
It will have a payload capacity of 47-50 tonnes with minor modifications.
36 units locally produced to replace the entire fleet of IL76 & IL78,also to add numbers.
Next,in Tactical Airlifter category,we need to mantain the fleet of
36 C130J Hercules (24 purchased from Royal Airforce & upgraded)
72/80 C390/C2 locally produced here to replace the entire fleet of An 32.
120 C295 Transport (Additional 60 units ordered later)
72 units for Airforce,36 units for Army,6 units for Navy/Marines & 6 units for Coast Guards.
***Out of 36,12 units modified to act as Gunships.
Have to say .....the navy is far better at finishing projects than the Airforce 🙄🙄🙄
Navy is my favourite because they were working on
57 under construction ships and
20will be started in 2024-2025
They acknowledged this
What is the progress of 7 new defence PSU aka old OFB.
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Waiting eagerly for Conflict X videos🤩
Agar hum Airbus ya Boeing ke commercial planes ko modified karke strategic airlifter ni bna sakte kya
Ya us ke stock se kuch c 17
Ukraine se An 70 ka design or IP right kharid Lina chaye. Mere hisab se Antnovo Company ko hi kharid lena Chahiye Kaya Kate ho bhai
Embrayer brazilian company kharidnay ki baat chal rahi thi. Kya hua usska?? Ching pong country nai kharid liya kya?
Jai hind🇮🇳🇮🇳
We need medium capacity transport planes in numbers,. latest one from Embraer matches requirement.
India shall keep 5% of annual outlay for Defence, 5% on education and 7-8% on Health for next 10-12years. It helps to integrate and co-operate Military, Tech Education and Private Sector.
Can we have a Tanker-AWACS combination in a single aircraft? Can IAF opt for AIRBUS A330 MRTT based AWAC aircrafts which is already on the cards, and have the first half dedicated for AWACS controls and the later half be fixed with a fuel tank, since the fuselage of A330 is very long.
What about heavy lift helicopter like Mil Mi -26 ,etc?
What should I do to take at least one flight in IAF transport aircraft?
There are two projects from Antonov an178 &188 (20t&40t) which are failing to find partners and now since the possibilities are slim due to war. If possible we should buy them with tot and ip instead of buying from West or Russia .cargo aircraft is as important to fighter jet and we must be self reliant it.
C17 is actually beast
Will be good if you could show the stats you are mentioning as an image in the video too
First upgrade what you have and get new one, and getting new one is a very very long and time consuming process.
You forget about hindustan 228 it's also lift 4000 kg
I presently think a joint venture with usa , yes they are also playing to retire c 5 galaxy
We will get 0 % technology but made in india, strategic aircraft by Tata, what else you want ?
Yeah in a way they are good for troops transport
Hey Alpha Defence, u were saying that India will buy old C130 from Royal Air Force. Any update on that
Na !! They seems to be avoiding that
Shouldn't India try and develop a strategic air lifter for itself? I know it might take like a decade or 2 but considering there's literally next to 0 other aircrafts of such type it could be a huge export opportunity 🤔
🇮🇳🤝🇷🇺🤝🇮🇱🤝🇯🇵 jai hind jai bharat ❤️👍🙏🌍💪
Is there a possibility of signing a contract with American firms to get the C-17s lying in Boneyards in the US up and running and in new condition?
Der is nothing lying in boneyard
USAF has 18 reserves and they kind want those reserves.
Sir,agar Boeing 747 air India ke aircraft ko military cargo me convert kare to🤔
ADA can start work on design phase for Heavy lift category and once the comprehensive design review is completed, they can ask tata for production, as tata might have already gained experience in production of c295 by then.
C295 is light to medium category. Strategic airlifters are heavy category aircrafts
@@hrushikeshavachat900 it's about experience, every company starts small and makes big, tata can manufacture heavy lift category aircraft in future.Please read my comment properly, I was talking about a new heavy lift aircraft only, not about additional c295.
@@keepcalm963 I know it cam. But C-295 is starting point. Next point will ne A400-M
@@hrushikeshavachat900 It's better to make one ourselves if proper commitment is there, c295 negotiations started first 20 years back, our acquisition procedure is pathetic, if the feasibility study and design phase can be completed in 5-6 years, tata would most likely have finished production of c295, then it will be a smooth run. If a similar agreement like c295 can be made for A400 on a G2G basis, it's alright.
@@keepcalm963 Not on G2G basis. The numbers we need are very high so no G2G. But yes I agree the acquisition procedure of India is very long and time taking
Forget about purchasing new transport aircraft .........
Indian Air Force is not using its existing transport fleet that is
recently purchased c-17 aircraft to its full capacity
Comptroller and auditor general has already pointed it out.....!!!!
Best solution in same or better than IL76 is the Japanese C-2 or Airbus A400. Embraer C390 is smaller and more analogous to C130.
A400 M and C2 aren't in globmaster category
C17 can carry twice as payload as A400M
@@AlphaDefenseHindi C17 Globemaster is no longer in production and we are talking about replacement for IL76… so my comments holds good.
Airbus milltary transport plans
Sir why c 17 globe master production stopped
Sir agar Boeing ko c-17 globe master ka order agar acche number's me diye Jaye tho Boeing poori nahi kar sakta 🙏
Buy an off-the-shelf western engine model, and locally integrate into IL-76, replacing russian subsystems where possible. Otherwise they will be dead ducks of the IAF
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Is DRDO working on AEWACS that Can Give 360° Coverage..??
@Guddo Never Heard of it By DRDO...
Just TH-cam Experts are Saying it...
Jaihind Jaibharat
We don't need HAL program on transport aircraft. It needs to complete its other programs on time first.
We can convert Air Indias surplus air craft for transport defence use
No too difficult !
Hal.should Just put 4 engines & you have heavy lift cargo plane
In theory yes :)
Is there any possibility that the decommissioned assembly line of C-17 can be moved to India...It will be very useful for India and also USA will earn from old assembly line and also we can covert c-17 into heavy refueller and heavy awacs
Line is closed and used fir other stuff
@@AlphaDefenseHindi Any which ways western aircraft are so reliable so I believe we can keep an eagle eye for second hand c-17 from nato countries which are now adopting Airbus A400
Boeing se c17 k technology leke ya Airbus/Embraer k sath c17 category ka transport plane kiyun nahi banate.?
These techs are costly
Till you wanna order them in 100s it doesn't make sense
Can't we make strategic airlifter with the experience gain during manufacturing of c295
We can absolutely but the Indian govt doesn't want to spend money on any kind of R&D.
It's a typical Indian mindset of extracting every last drop from the barrel no matter the human cost.
What I'm implying by this analogy is that in India we want everything but we don't want to pay that much, it's a result of negotiation-ism
Currently our focus is on accuring fighters
Why not we get antonov an-22 and an 124. Please tell.
You can get them once Russia takes over Ukraine or Ukrain takes over Russia:)
Aapne china ka name kaise le liya
Hamko second hand c 17 purchase karna chahiye
रुसी अवांगार्ड मिसाईल के ऊपर विडिओ पोस्ट करे
Can we but C 17 from US Airforce, used ones and upgrade them ?
Even they don't have surplus
Bro why doesn't India ask USA to give second hand C17
1. They're not on sale.
2. C 17 is out of production.
So,
3.Even US Air Force want to buy some more C 17s, but it's not available. So they not gonna sell what they have untill they find it's alternate.
Hii alfa def.
1 bat btao USA ka jo globemaster transport aircraft hai uska production line agar india me fir se strat kiya jaye to kaisa rhega. Ku ki uska requirement to india ko hai.
Is bare me aap kya sochte ho.
It's completely dismantled.. kafi heavy pade ga pocket pe..
@@AlphaDefenseHindi
Apna desh itna heavy carry kr sakta hai, ku k khud se new aircraft bnane gye to wo isse jyada padega. we can export through Indo-usa partnership.
Technology milegi wo alag.
Government should look to develop civilian aircrafts like we developed car industry in India.Air India is going to order 300 aircraft's that's over 40 billion $, consider how much these can benefit in developing our own aerospace industry.
There Was News In 2020 Embraer Is On Sale At That Time Any Indian Company Should Buy That Brazilian Company Embraer !!!
We should go for A400M i think it can pretty much replace c130 & IL76.
50-60 Units of A400M will fulfill all our needs but Problem is they are very expensive systems. 200 million USD atleast ( which will make deal worth 10-12 billion Usd) thats a lot of money when we are in desperate need of Fighters aircraft & buying a aircraft without its MRO is foolish move instead go for C390 if they allow full technology transfer.
Not an IL76 replacement
@@AlphaDefenseHindi cargo bay of IL76 is 3.45x3.4x24.5
While A400m
Its cargo bay is 4x3.85x23.11 it has wider cargo bay compared to IL76 which is why i think it can pretty much do all operations of Indian airforce. Rest or heavier payloads can be done by C17.
Ask US for 10 more C17 in service with them, later we can buy Embrer and the current lifter they have can be modified by us for 60tn use
Why will they give der C17 ?
I am surprised we haven't bought A400 yet. It was perfect for carrying medium weight tanks.
Tank can be transported with Railways. Who will bare the cost of multiple type inventory for different transport aircraft maintenance? 🥴
@@surojeetvedantic6047 good luck for building a railway to Daulat beg.
@@abhishekdev258
Daulat beg oldie, ur big tanks will not work properly in that terrain, tanks will be sitting duck. Only kamekazi & suicide loiters drone & light Horwitzer or truck mounted cannons, Light tank & L&T movable artillery will work alongwith LCH & Mig29.
@@surojeetvedantic6047 China bought their medium tanks and we took our T-72s to heights they were not designed for. Ofcourse medium tanks are going to work there.
The question is can we maintain the supplies for it.
@@abhishekdev258
Why not with C295 & Hercules is enough. There is no need for different company transport aircraft it increases the inventory & costing to maintain those. Variety should be there in fighter aircrafts.
Jai Hind Alfa defance 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
That is why Atmanirbhar is urgently needed!
First
How many alternatives are there of C-17 globmaster?
0 in theory
@@AlphaDefenseHindi should we make ours?
C17 bnd krne se phle Boeing ne india ko bahut baar bola tha,pr hmare slow decision process ne koi faisla nahi liya
Why don’t Indian collaborator with other countries to develop an aircraft like c17
Kya India khud ka transporter bnane me capable nhi h ??? Plzz btaiyega
Its high time noq. This ecosystem needs to be built in India in next 10 to 15 years. To much dependence on foreign vendors.
Il 76 replace with C5 galaxy ?
Out of production
Lol!
Imagine getting C-5M galaxy!!
Go for Chinese y 20
Lol
But some Y-20s from China..
Second hand globmaster could be a choice
When first C295 will be delivered?
Some time in next year 2023, as announced by the IAF.
@@ShankarGanesh108 thanks, Any Idea when TATAs will be able to deliver first aircraft.
@@bhagatverma4271 well 10+ aircrafts will indicuted at once
Leave it to private industry they can manufacture any size
Its left to them :)
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India can buy some superjambos and convert them into military aircrafts
India should purchase Japanese Kawasaki C-2
India bhi 2050 tak aisa aircraft bana lena🤦
Why don't we purchase c-130j again?
Coz C295 will cover part of its role and issue here is strategic airlifting
@@AlphaDefenseHindi can u make a video on why range is smaller in surface to ship or anti ship missiles. Why only china is having highest range anti ship missile.
Difference Between Strategic & Tactical Air Lifters ???
Strategic airlifter carry 40+ tonnes (in theory)
@@AlphaDefenseHindi Thanks A Lot, Alpha !!!
Bhagwan Jane kya hoga tankers, airlifters, awaks, .......
Tho kya West ke Chalte hamlog apna transport fleet ko bitha de arram se direct deal 🤝 kare Russia se India
Give a huge order of c-17 globe master atleast 30 to 40 planes USA will definately open their assembly line..😊😊
30-40 is little too much 20 to the max
C 5 super galaxy will be good option.
For that you will have to make new runways
What about AN 70?
Let Russia take over Ukraine or Ukraine take over Russia;) till den no antanov
@@AlphaDefenseHindi bruh 😂
Dunno why Boeing has killed it's best aircraft production.