The Massdrop/TJ Schwarz Perpetua Pocketknife: The Full Nick Shabazz Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- Today, we're going to take a look at a very nice knife from Massdrop, Millit Knives, and TJ Schwarz, with a very familiar locking mechanism, and a few very easy fixes for the second generation.
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Looks like they gave you one of the older versions. The model currently available on Drop has relief cuts for the thumb studs as well as an ostensibly improved clip.
That's great to hear, this was done on one of the first gen models, then.
I wonder why they changed the name from Massdrop to simply Drop? Massdrop had a cool sound to it but Drop just sounds dumb.
Nick Shabazz I have one of the first batch ones and it came very very rough. I had to take it apart and clean up all the matting surfaces to even get it to fire reliably. It took hundreds of deployments to get it smooth but now it’s my smoothest axis lock. Also I had to replace my clip with a titanium one because it caught on something while I was walking and broke.
@@sputumtube they changed name ages ago, but still call themselves "drop, formerly massdrop" showing the name really stuck
paul greenwood, drop is Dutch for liquorish.......
"Wish the price was higher" there he goes, nick has lost his mind!
my first one broke an omega spring about 3 months in (and i've owned a mini grip for years without this issue). i wrote millit asking for a replacement spring and never even got a response; i wrote drop asking for the same and they told me they could only replace the entire knife. the replacement they sent had rust spotting on the blade out of the box. when i complained to drop again they told me no more replacements were available. i tried to put the blade from my original knife into the handle of the replacement, and both were completely slathered in red loctite and unable to be disassembled. the design had so much potential, but my experience with both companies involved was pretty uniformly terrible.
I emailed millit about a replacement clip, never got a reply from them.
Really appreciate the extra content Nicky boy, thanks man
Hey Nick. I occasionally check in on your channel and wanted to congratulate you on 100k subs! Keep up the great reviews and stay safe!
I have the new version and really love it! It's in my top five that I carry.
Thanks for the stellar info as always Nick! I've pondered ordering from massdrop before, however, i wasnt sure what to expect. Thanks for "dropping" your opinion on this. It helps me make a future decision :). As always... thanks for carrying it so I don't have to!
My gen 1, has one smooth side on the G10. Like the blank got flipped when they milled it out, and needed a new steel clip. But I so love the hollow grind 😀
Benchmades axis lock patent expiring is a great thing, I am looking forward to seeing some of the knives of the future with the "axis" lock
This looks awesome! The ultimate hybrid of a CRK Insingo blade, a Benchmade lock, and a handle that will readily accept aftermarket scales. Sounds like an all around win to me. I just wish the liners were recessed and not flush to make it look a little cleaner. If they could make a version with a dark acid stonewash I would love that.
Couldn't agree more Nick...i ALWAYS want to see the steel.
When Z Hunter has a better clip than you, you know you've got a problem
Thanks Nick for an as always honest review. It sounds like this is a good opportunity to double my money by folding my money and putting it back in my pocket.
Mine came last week and was totally non-functional out of the box. Lock was not engaging at all and very stiff action despite having blade play. G10 finishing was a bit rough as well along the edges. So I tore it down and once I got the pivot screw out (required a punch as it felt press fit in the liner) the first thing I saw right away was the omega springs were not installed correctly, hence the locking issue. The blade washers were also bone dry. So I cleaned up the scales, installed the omega springs correctly, and properly lubricated the washers. Once back together and giving it some break in time, it is now a good knife with smooth action, nice centering, and solid lock up.
Last I checked these were available right now
Davis Larsen this seems to be a „backlog“ review, meaning this was filmed quite a while ago. Maybe nick uploaded it now BECAUSE they are available again.
In my experience it was a great blade shape with a nice hollow grind, let down by steel that was sub par and the handle was pretty blocky and a tad short.
I like your view on this one, everybody else has been saying the same thing and your view is a little different, I like that
No size comparison? unsubscribed.
before someone comments this is a joke
Yeah. WTF, Nick?!
I finally ordered one and it should be here by the weekend. Hopefully, they fixed the issues.
Thanks for the review
I like mine a lot and I got mine from the first run. It's not perfect, but a great daily user. I just wish there was a touch more room on the handle, move the front finger a third of an inch forward and it'd be really great.
Can you please review the Giant Mouse Ace Clyde in Micarta? It has elmax steel and looks very nice. Good job on your TH-cam Chanel 👍
Mine took a lot of love out of the box, besides a total lack of lubrication the omega springs were not installed correctly. However once given some love, it has become one of my most carried knives.
I have found the knives I have bought that need a little TLC have been my most carried knives. Specially Benchmade.
It should be noted that Millit and TJ Schwartz redid this knife, and fixed your two ugly issues. I don't know if they ever fixed the QC, buy I'm about to find out as mine arrives Thursday
If u don't mind me asking when did u place your order maybe that will kinda let me know when mine will ship 👊
@@David_DY April 4th, so 10 days ago. Took 5 days to ship, iirc
@@Acre00 ordered on 8th probably get mine next week sometime Thanks Brother 👊
So have you received it yet? How is it if so?
I have the second generation and it’s good to go they fixed a lot of the problems
"Best quality controlled one of these ever" indeed. I just got mine and it came with three of the four handle screws completely stripped out. Love the design and execution otherwise.
Yea gods...THIS knife. Besides the six months delayed shipping (long before the days that the Viral Endless Spring Break of 2020 made delays common), this was the worsr assembled knife I had every been sent, including cheap, no-name Chinese junkers. One of the spacers had stripped threads, the hardware was all torqued down out of balance, and the blade so tight I could barely get it opened. When I did, it was so off-center that it clipped a liner; further inspection showed that the pivot iteslf, i.e., the cylindrical metal piece the blade rotated around with threaded openings on both sides for the pivot screws, had been bent by a pair of pliers. You could clearly the lines from the pliers, which the person who assembled the knife had used to squeeze down so hard on the small piece that it collapsed the metal a little, making it no longer perfectly round.
I probably should have sent it back right there, but I'm a masochist who likes projects, so I mostly fixed it with files and some sandpaper. And of course, even though it wasn't technically broken, there was that pocket clip. That awful, awful pocket clip. I was pleased to hear Millit had made replacements, and titanium no less, and excitedly went to their website. I wasn't expecting them to be free, but they cost 30 bucks for a blue anodized titanium version of...exactly the same design! I still bought one because without it the knife was almost useless. But despite the good things ive heard about them, i don't thibk a $500 Millit mid-tech will be on my shopping list any time soon.
Been wanting to pick up the new green one bc it’s ground thinner supposedly just haven’t got around to it because idk if I’d carry it as much as I should. Really impressed with Millit’s work on the Torrent I have so like to get another.
Damn this video musta been recorded 6 months ago
The keen is a great kitchen knife. Beautiful knife I have the purple one.
This knife looks a gem. I really like the blade shape.
ha ha
Best knife reviewer on da planet
The dullness is why I like it so much
The prototype had more prominent thumb studs that got reduced for the production run. Epic Snuggle Bunny mentions this in his preview. The smaller studs interfere less with carrying and use. Or not. The broad range of perceptions in the knife community is always interesting.
The clip isn't even spring steel but fortunately it is compatible with many Kizer and Kershaw and other clips. My Kershaw Barge lives in a tool box so its clip carries my Perpetua which has endured much hard use.
May the Schwartz be with you.
They should call it the "access lock," because you can access it from either side. 😆 Also, The joke works better when you say it out loud for those that don't get it.
Actually I was thinking the exact same thing.
I love the blade shape on it. I've had a lot of omega springs break on my benchmade knives and bought some from a 3rd party vendor or whatever and I'm just not a huge fan anymore. Thanks for the content
Orendz77 your comment here is exactly why avoid all knives with wimpy springs, either assisted openers or omegas on locks...in no way to I want a go to knife to rely on these...one day when you need the knife, that will invariably be the day it quits on you.
@@DavePotokar after the experience I've had with the omega spring I feel exactly as you do too.
Nick, you find this review in the back of a closet while moving? :D
Looks like has a smooth action
"Are rose by any other name" Always considerd this channel Shakespear, Julius Caesar comes to mind especially.
Just picked up the second version on Drop on the 8th waiting for it to ship Second round is supposed to have a much better clip stronger liner's Thumb cutouts and a better pivot head 👍👊
I bought one on the 7th and I’m still waiting on mine to ship as well.
@@charlierunyon1967 Mine shipped..Yours?
Please give update when you receive it
It's the one of the lower reviewed knife collaborations (shame being the only US made knife colab) ! If you order their "in stock" collaboration knives read the overview thoroughly they have some serious delays .You only have two hours after purchase to cancel .
The Mordax is also manufactured in the US, by Pro-tech
thanks for the vidéo
Nice!
Clip position also, ergo and pocketgo.
Thanks Nick, great information. Next Drop ,April 8th..tomorrow. having second thoughts ?
I've never broken a axis,,lock bar omega spring ,price is $90 this
drop .good job !😉🦊😁🐺
Was about to buy one but they’re reselling for $250…
Are those thumbs studs symmetrical?
Waiting for these to hit eBay for like 80-90 bucks. I love the blade shape and design.
They're on sale for $100, and if you open a new account you get $20 off.
Nice knife!
Holy crap! A knife manufacturer who recognize the existence of people who may like to carry on the left
The clip on my magnum by boker is worse can't even take it off to turn it around to bend it
I dont see why axis style lock would be wrong, but isnt the "generic axis lock" style lock be considered a sliding bar lock?
I really think that "we," should just call it an axis lock being that that's what it is and out of respect.
I missed out on the first run, but I'm kinda glad that I did. I can't confirm but I read, heard, saw, that they made improvements on subsequent runs of the knife. I just ordered on the other day finally. I had forgot about it until I saw one on SliceyDiceys live stream. Checked the site out and they had them in stock ready to order. So I grabbed one up while they had them. The design seems very appealing to me and from what everyone has said, overall its a nice knife at a decent price point. I see a lot of people saying its ugly or boring, well I happen to like plain and simple designs like this. It's great that there is such a humongous variety of designs out there to choose from. I almost never like the next "hot fad" knife that comes out. I still think my delica or mini grips are the best looking knives I own. Anyways, To each their own, good video Nick.
Better to buy one of the G-Lock Ganzo knives if you want something cheap with an Axis-like lock. They have decent steel, good overall quality, no problems with pocket clip or thumb studs. Also, they're cheaper than this thing.
I'm not really familiar with Nitro V steel, what is it comparable to?
It is around VG-10 or 14C28N but with unusually high toughness. Cedric and Ada have some interesting test videos about it.
Nitro V is one of those steels that WAY outperforms its "on paper" specs. It's also highly variable based on HRC. Once you get into the 61+ range, it outperforms nearly every steel in a similar price range.
Definitely worth picking up an affordable example, to experience it, and at $100 this knife is a pretty great example.
That being said, the specs state, i believe, 57-59 HRC which would be really underwhelming and nowhere near the potential of Nitro V. My experience with my example leads me to believe its definitely higher than 59 HRC, so take all that with a grain of salt.
I have a Benchmade Bugout with Titanium scales that I paid $149 for
It is lighter (no steel liners) same blade length.
Has a MUCH better clip
If this didn't have steel liners and they offered it in Ti or CF as well as G-10 and possibly Micarta with a deeper carry better designed clip it would be great at $150 ish
Right now they're selling the "improved " version for $100 which doesn't seem bad.
PLEASE R
review 6E6 RATNIK
I can't help but laugh listening to Nick talk about anything. He could be reviewing a turd and I would find humor in it just listening to him. Thanks for the laughs Nick. Your awesome!!! Nice knife too!
I really think the dated nature of this review could be helped by a comparison between the v1 & v2 models. This v1 model isn’t being sold anymore so I think the timing of this videos release may come off as misleading to potential buyers.
4:15 proof that old is new again. Dusting of vintage films
Reminds me of a Rockeye
I always hear it like "the Coney Garius"
Nick,please always do ,measurements and weight.i wont consider a knife over 3 oz.
Sweet piece...
Bad clip...
Great review...
Bonjour de France 🇫🇷 j’adore ce couteau mais introuvable en Europe vraiment dommage 🤨 toujours sympa les vidéo merci A salute
You can buy this right now for 100bucks???
Not everyone objects to billboarding on a blade. As a matter of personal preference I’m not a fan of an endless sea of boring grey. That’s part of why I don’t accept the screw holes argument against provision for left hand carry on other knives.
This is really bland. It looks like a ganzo knife after ganzo recognised that they had to make their own designs. It looks like a factory prototype/proof of concept of the mechanisms and they forgot to finish the aesthetic design. It's just boring....
tidge879 Is ur mom boring
@@hugedickerinokripperino5299 haha, my mother is a saint! 🤣
You and Nutnfancy would get along well. Only way I can watch is at 1.75x.
Hi
Nick I agree with you short studs and a weak clip it’s a pass
Did this knife maker run out of ideas and say, meh, let me take Chris reeves logo and copy it with a small change?
Still no deka review? Come on!!
As they fixed your two ugly issues with the second gen (no more perpetua-ly rebending the clip), my main concern with this knife would be getting new omega springs when they inevitably fail. I'll put up with it from Benchmade because I can always send in the knife for new springs. However, (Mass)drop isn't renowned for its customer servie and there is no telling how long Millit is going to continue support for this model.
With the second gen they also offer a new color, so you can chose between grey and greenish-grey. Hurray for choice. I'd imagine the grey scales would dye nicely though.
I know this was a year ago but I would just like to add something incase it helps you or anyone else. I had a spring break on my 940-2 and didn't want to wait another 7-8 weeks for Benchmade to make it right so I just went on amazon and bought a pair of springs. They were a little too stiff but it was easy to tweak and they honestly look like higher quality springs anyway. Later I got a Hogue Deka which also uses omega springs but they are made by Wolff (they manufacture springs for firearms) so it might be possible to contact either of those companies quicker than Massdrop, or even Benchmade for that matter.
Good info! Sadly, Drop (formerly massdrop) has gotten out of the knife market entirely, so aftermarket is probably the only option now.
I've had enough failures on Omega springs that it has soured me on the axis lock design. I only own two knives with the lock and I've had three failures. It's kept me from buying knives (the perpetua and the hogue rsk specifically).
I may give the hogue design a try to see if the problem is just Benchmade's springs, but it probably won't be soon.
@@dm3639 I'm sorry to hear that but I completely understand. My omega failure was my first Benchmade experience and within a couple months so I'm on the same page. That being said, I loved my Hogue Deka so much that I bought a second one in wharncliffe and just ordered a mini-RSK due to my experience with both. I think if anyone can do it right it would be Wolff.
I can't blame you for being skeptical though. Spyderco looked like they did a really good transitional variant with the Manix but I can't say personally. I think the irony is that Benchmade already improved their design with the Anthem, but it's $450 and discontinued. So it seems they just don't really care.
I love the ball bearing lock, especially the covered version in the manix 2 (the exposed ball in the dodo and other models is harder for me to use with gloves on). I wish Spyderco would use it in more designs. I've used my manix heavily for years with no issues. I was interested to try the similar spring design of the anthem, but I'm just not willing to pay the price premium for an integral. It's too bad Benchmade let that variant die with the anthem.
You've given me a reason to reconsider a hogue, which I appreciate. I like to support domestic manufacturing when I can, so another option would be good.
Nick , your latest videos seem zoomed in too close. Including this one.
This is super old
Noice
its not a thing but for me it as a thing. I should start collecting these "Nickisms" of "Shabazzisms"
You reviewed this booty meat but you haven't reviewed the gavko thresher🧐
Haven't watched this review yet but this is one knife I'd recommend skipping. Mine has blade play and a clip that is bent out just from simple carrying and light use.
Wow I'm early for once
There is a second generation of this knife. Thumb stud and clip issues have been resolved. The pivot was changed as well. I don't think it's fair to review the original version at this point.
No size comparison? That’s bad karma, dude ;-)
So glad to see Massdrop finally selling knives that are made by full grown adults who earn a real salary for their work. Instead of being made in a sweat shop in China by children. I like the blade shape but don't care for the blade finish or the clip.
They also have the Mordax made by ProTech. Do you happen to have any evidence that WE has poor labor practices? I assume it takes relatively skilled workers to manufacture high end blades.
@@SANDALxCORE I don't criticize anyone for spending their money how they want. I only speak for myself that i cannot in good conscious buy a knife made in China. Yes, I know, my TV, my computer, and phone, etc. are all made in China or has Chinese parts. I also know that there are industries that China has monopolized through unfair labor and trade practices, and that their communist government has for generations been guilty of inhumane human rights violations. The fact is, if I want any electronic device, I have to purchase something with Chinese parts. I know that General Motors is in the process of making cars in China to be transported back to the USA for purchase. If the trend continues, China will have completely destroyed all competition on every single item that is manufactured everywhere. This is the same country that lied to the world about the Covid 19 virus. This is the same country that murdered it's students for asking for a change in the human rights laws. I am sure WE knives makes excellent quality knives, but at least part their profits goes to a government that is a big problem for both our country and the world. Do I have any evidence that WE knives has poor labor practices? The answer is no. Whether they do or not, I know that there is a chance that they might, or they might not. I also know that both Chinese businesses and the government that controls those businesses has a long, long history of not telling the truth. BTW, I do choose to buy knives and other items from countries that are our allies, including Germany, South Korea, Italy, Japan, and Taiwan, so I'm not a "USA only" type of person. Also Taiwan, our ally, is a country that China still refuses to accept as a Country in it's own right. Once again, spend your money where you like. I myself see China as, if not an enemy, then at least a country I have huge issues with. I really believe the Covid 19 virus, should make the USA and the rest of the world re examine, and ask the question, "Who are and who are not our friends".
@ablackprep True.
Lol that clip is made out of butter.
Eh it’s a dull knife. Kind of generic boring. For the price though it’s decent
How much could they have really saved on making the clip terrible. I mean seriously?
Nice review Nick... but the clip is really , really, BAD...
The lack of imagination with these knife makers is disturbing , with the exception of Spyderco I see nothing but a series of rip offs with one or two very minor changes this is really an old new knife and I dont get why they even bother making it . To say they are lazy and a plain disappointment is a serious understatement.
That is one of the fugliest knives I've ever seen.
The clip really does suck. It is pure garbage.