A video of this tool vs the various Leathermans would be cool. Using the modularity to match or beat each Leatherman tool for tool for the use case. Especially interested in seeing the goat go up against the signal.
Thank you for your in depth and honest review on this multitool. I really enjoyed this because you showed all sides and did not hide anything. I think Goat Tools is into something really good, but it will take time. We are so critical on companies that come out with such a unique item that might have a few small issues. I see a lot more good than bad in this one, and can’t wait to see what they do in the future. Maybe they will kick the larger companies into gear 😂.
That modularity is still pretty cool. It seems nice as a lightweight, incidental use tool. You're not going to beat on it, but being able to customize an incidental tool like this is awesome. No longer have to waste space on tools I will never use. I hope they make a kind of swiss army knife version where you just have that one half. Little disappointing about the locking being weak. Having that be replaceable would be nice. And really hope they improve that file.
Yes, that x100 😆. I'm definitely going to try the"One Legged Goat" (coining the phrase now) mod when my tool gets here. The really cool part is that with removable tools that you can buy separately, you can build 2 "One Legged Goats" per tool, making the cost comparable to a regular Swiss army knife.
What I get from this review is that the Goat Tool might be good for modding to specific purposes, for instance boating, (one guy below mentioned a Marlin spike - capitol idea!) or possibly for cycling. (I know that there are dedicated cycling tools.) The scissors really sells me on the Goat Tool. Also love idea of using other 5mm pivot tools for donors, and really like the brass washer idea. Might be fun to adapt it to the scale tools from SAK, & see if there's a way to stick a very small flashlight to it (maybe just lanyard something to it and skip trying to engineer.) I carry several lights on me anyway, but SOMETIMES having a very small light on board can facilitate a quick, one-handed fix, repair, or rescue. Just taking out stuff I don't use and putting in washers to make it light is an idea... Also modding it to take the only 2 keys I use and make it my "everything tool." Would love a "lightsaber mod" for Goat Tool, but probably have to wait until the new Force awakens...
The crazy thing is anyone commenting negative things on this this man’s video is TH-cam is free make a channel and make the content you want to watch don’t criticize other people on the content they want to make it’s their channel if you don’t want to see their impression or their content don’t freckling watch it make your own!!!!!!!
I think you hit the nail on who this is potentially for. Speaking personally this is exactly the thing I was waiting for, and backed it as well. I probably won't ever need to do hard work much in my life and a lot of other existing multitools that exists before this didn't really speak to me without feeling like I'm wasting my money on tools I won't use. With something like that I can take out or add to suit my needs, even if I'm more paying for the platform itself. And hey when I realized I do need a harder use multitool / proper tools, I'll get that later as needed. Looking forward to your tests and forth ER reviews.
Ended up backing the project cause of your videos. Not the biggest fan of the design aesthetics, but a HUGE fan of the concept and have been wanting multi-tool companies to embrace modularity and customization for ages.
Me too. I bet 80-90% of people who're backing on indigogo are backing the concept and potential future of the platform rather than the initial tool itself. I think goat tools will succeed or fail based on how much community engagement and good will they can muster up from users and aftermarket vendors.
Well I’m really glad I ordered mine. I think the first edition will definitely become a collectors item because I think this company is going to take off.
@@leowolfgang2831 yeah I would keep the box and all associated paper work for authenticity. Perhaps even the shipping box. Not saying don’t use it though. Imo use makes tools even more valuable. It adds character.
Yeah, I backed the indigogo for 2 so I have one to use and one to trade/sell/gift in a couple years 😁. Even if the company doesn't make it (here's hoping it does though). I'm sure they'll be worth at least the purchase price in a couple of years 👍.
Excited about future of this platform, despite not wanting to get in yet. Good first start suggests future improvements... GOAT XL, customized scales, more new unique instruments, third party addons. Hopefully they shake up market and encourage innovation from the big players.
Love this. Being able to customize it to the tools that will be most useful for each individual is brilliant. I’m getting a black one with brass scales. Might wait, but there is a pre order sale.
First and foremost I believe in GOAT TOOLS Mission Statement. I purchased one and did “my QA test” on my goat and sorry to say it failed. Basically I put on a chain mail glove and put pressure on each tool to see if it the locking mechanism is good to go. Surprisingly and completely caught off guard; the blade and saw literally snapped at the base. I had the Lexus to the Pinto of multi tools and NONE of the ever snapped NEVER! I still support GOAT TOOLS and expect 2.0 to be a 1000% better.🤞🏾
In addition to whatever wire you're already cutting, I'd like to see what the cutters do to CAT5 cable, because cutting that stuff cleanly with wire cutters is surprisingly difficult
I appreciate you being a pioneer in reviewing the GOAT tool. For the 1st gen I think the weak lock bar design is a no sale for me. Tool already has a strong following and the modularity design is great so I don't doubt they will improve the design. Looking forward to more blade styles, jig saw blade adapters, scalpel blade adapters etc. Maybe do a sawzall blade mod video like you did with the wave in the near future for the goat tool?
Want. Want. WANT. WAAAAANNNNTTTT!!! :D. Here's hoping that they do a diamond file. One thing about the saw blade, it looks like the saw plate hasn't been thinned down enough. These multi-tool sawblades don't have any actual set to the teeth, so to achieve the same functional benefit of set teeth, the plate (the portion of the saw blade behind the teeth) needs to be ground thinner. I have a Charge+ G10 in my hand right now and the difference in the thickness at the spine of the blade vs the thickness of the spine of all three of the other blades is substantial. I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of mods the tinkerers across the world come up with for this tool.
Wow! I loved your review! Nice work! Way to be the first out there with a review on the device! II’m looking forward to learning more about the device. I have been wanting a general purpose reconfigurable platform for years. I thought Leatherman would do it with the wave platform. Yes, I want one! I’m looking forward to The GOAT going into production!
I have to admit Maxlvledc, im not really a pliers based multitool guy but this Goat Tool is pretty neat. The customizable feature of it and the ability to easily replace broken or damaged tools might just get me to pull the trigger on one once its solidly in production.
I like this review but it might be a good idea to get a second tool 2 or 3 months after release to see how this tool looks as a non backer and see the consistency of the product.
Excellent review! No sir... No wasted material at all. And you focused on important points... I am so sick of people spending ten minutes measuring and weighing tools lol. I agree with your comments on the locking system... As someone who spends a lot of time evaluating knives for dangerous situations, I try to get people to understand the joint of any instrument is usually an inherent weakness. Just as no folder I know of has the stability of a full tang blade, people have to recognize the elements that determine what a multi tool can achieve safely and consistently. For this tool (the GOAT) specifically, we are looking at a solid medium sized tool. I would compare it to many SOG tools but not a tool like the Gerber Multi Force, or the Leather man you made a similar comparison with. It is what it is... They could make a larger platform with more robust tools, or they could improve design reliability through newer versions, perhaps a clip that shuts down the modular tool where there is open space... And as you say, I would focus a lot of attention to the chronic instability of a locking system that always has one open area that can be stressed. I also agree and you are one of the few people that make this point: Stainless is great material... Do I really need my multi tool to last 3 generations? But making that steel so that function is optimal is important and when a tool has a flimsiness to it, that is troubling. BiBury seems to recognize this, the saw comparison you made was a great example. An aside: it is interesting to me how Chinese innovation sometimes is not noticed. Tools like the latest Roxbury and the BiBury are well made muli tools. Alas GOAT is in the right direction. They seem destined for great things... already that scissors and the xacto type blade stand out, as well as (perhaps) the wire cutters. I look forward to subsequent reviews.
with both the file and saw potentially being duds a tshank holder is screaming to be made haha. so excited to see the gut hook tested if it is sharp as
One of the real challenges for a wire cutter is cutting a coat hanger. It may likely damage the cutter. My SOG has a nick in the pliers when I cut one in the middle of the cutter (and not the inner-most section).
I'm backer #51 and haven't heard anything about mine shipping yet, so your comment at the end about no more than 50 out there is almost certainly accurate. Though unfortunately for the rest of us it seems like there is only 1 released, and it's yours. I haven't seen a single post anywhere of anyone else getting one yet, and there's already a bunch of comments with no real responses on the Kickstarter page about when in the world these are ACTUALLY shipping.
For wire cutting, it would be helpful to see testing with galvanized hard wire (to simulate garden/agricultural fencing). 14 gauge is most common, but you’ll sometimes see as thick as 12 gauge.
Modular multi tools are such an exciting idea, can't wait for it and others to go from the Kickstarter stage to public sale. I do wish that there was a larger variety of scales available, to get the comfortable, rounded edges we see on proprietary tools. Part of the reason I'm excited for the modularity is that I was considering the bibury 22 in 1 recently, but was hesitant because of the 2 in 1 blade and since screwdrivers are a big part of my use case, the lack of a bit driver caused my hesitancy. If there was a way to get a plane edge blade and bit driver on that, the tool would be basically perfect for me, and modularity would fix that without needing to mod the tools, which I don't always have the time to mess with.
This is basically my dream tool, although it has a bit of a prototypey vibe. I could literally add just about any specialized tool I ever need. The phosphor bronze washer idea sounds great.
totally. I'm also a sucker for those colors. Really, the tool can get the annoying feeling lost that I'm always carrying something around I will never need. (currently I have a Wave+ with me and it has something that I totally hate and think is worthless weight)
Give it a few years and the "rough edges" will surely be smoothed out...not many add-ons currently but if if successful I'm betting there will be more add-ons 👍
A reasonable review for sure My question at first was going to be what the difference was in the locking and non-locking options for the blades. But I think I understand it now after you pointed out the locking system, as poor as it might be.... Thanks!
I think it's a game changer as a multi-tool, especially for the UK, given our more stringent knife laws, the ability to carry a knifeless modular multi-tool that I can customise is really appealing, granted, I don't think it would replace my existing pocket carry given how much functionality I've got, although as a lightweight alternative, I can see a use for it, which is worrying because I really shouldn't buy another multi-tool lol. I'm curious what Ben from TX Tool crib and Jon Gadget would have to say about it actually.
@@patrickbledsoe2176 my current carry consists of: Knipex 4" Cobra XS, the Victorinox bit set, Titanium Pry Bar and Victorinox Pioneer Alox 2022. I opted to take a divergent approach, as inspired by Ben Vallack. It works really well for me, and means zero anxiety on legality.
@@IlmarBeekman we can have them, we just need a good reason to carry one in public space. "just in case, it comes in handy" isn't good enough. If it's used for work then it's fine.
A very pragmatic review. Thank you. There seems to be one reality that might be eluding all of us multi-tool aficionados though: this is a portable, compact and EDC-type tool. It is NOT a dedicated tool for a specific task. None of these (types of multi-tools) from any reputable company will ever replace a proper tool: the folding knife will never measure up to a full tang quality knife like a Gerber StrongArm Fixed Blade Knife, or even a Morakniv. None of them will ever replace a 16oz DeWalt anti-vibe hammer. Etc. (You get the point, I hope.) These items are designed to get us out of a pinch, not to replace the tools of a trade - no insult to the G.O.A.T. name.
Not an electrician, but a general tradesman. I’d test stranded copper, solid copper, some kind of soft iron wire like bailing wire, or rebar tying wire, stainless steel lock wire, and high tensile wire. Great video, and super excited to see where this tool goes in the future!
Firstly, your "Wire for testing the cutters" question - you need to get hold of some aircraft-grade "Nyvin" electrical cable - which comes in a multitude of diameters from tiny to monstrous - think approximately one-sixteenth to half-an-inch diameter - with a multi-layered, fire-resistant outer covering, then the insulation, then a stainless steel stranded conductor in the centre. Secondly, and also related to the pliers, it appears as though there is another, additional tool feature here, which is a flat "crimper" section behind the plier pivot area. This could be useful in several situations.
Maybe I missed it in the first video. Reconfigurable for LEFTYS! I know we are a small % but welcome by me. Keeping my eye on this to see if some of the issues are addressed. But that exacto blade!! I’ll stick to my Spirt X that’s been at the bottom of my pocket for 8 years and finally has a Victorinox clip. New lease on life.
I hope/think future GOAT tools are going to epic. They need mad testing and reviews to fine tune. They clearly have listened to complaints we all have about existing MTs and hopefully will improve the ‘flaws’ in their first releases. The only thing I don’t like so far is the squareness of the handle scales.
Yep, I told Goat Tools the plier side of the scales should also be rounded but they said the square-ness was necessary as that end is suppoe to be a hammer of some sort
I need this in my life! Putting money aside for it rn. It's like 200 bucks for the tool plus the extra goodies. Although, I think I'll wait until they fully launch, get the kinks fully worked out, come out with more tool options, and refine all the tools individually. Maybe I'll wait for the V2 or 3.. but I am getting one! I'd really love to see a t shank adapter for jigsaw blades like the Leatherman surge has.
For the clumping issue, if it really is a problem, you could always add a lubricant to reduce the friction, and reduce the possibility of the tools sticking together.
ill be honest, ive been trying to find a multi tool that actually gets me excited, something that can ACTUALLY be useful and not just a whole bunch of tools youll never use which is why im subbed to this channel. this might be the first one that actually gets me pumped about the idea of having a custom MT. though i am a gamer, so i know better than to get excited for something before it ever hits the market especially something on kickstarter/indiegogo (still remember the ouya hype) but i hope a ton of companies get behind this and starts making custom attachments honestly i dont know why no other companies thought of this before given tools in the modern day are all about the addons and the razor blade business model, with things like crkts deabolt why not lol
I can see with a little of tinkering this Goat tool can become THE 🐐 Tool... Just imagine when this becomes perfectas and then they launch a L and Mini sizes... The 🐐
What I like most about this tool is that it might shake up established brands to also think of modularity. Thís, in my opinion, is the change Letherman should have implemented instead of the Free series.
What would be nice is if GOAT could put stuff in the skins like Victorinox. Ex=. Tweezers. 3” long stainless pin. Toothpick. Ferro rod or sharpening rod. The cutting pliers screws seem like they interfere. Great video
I'm sure GOAT or someone else will come out with a spacer to fill any empty slots. You could probably 3d print something that would do the job for a bit less weight.
I hope they do well and stick around. However, I will wait until another iteration or 2. That way they can work all the bugs out. Like you said it's an amazing first attempt and I see the value of it but I will wait to see what happens. I would agree 100% that it would be so nice to not have to carry tools not needed/used and the idea of this is amazing.
Given the softer steel for the frame, how does that affect the "hammer"/persuader's performance? I don't use my multitool too frequently, but when I need it I really appreciate having it. This means that the wear and lock issues aren't a huge problem for me, and the modularity lets me avoid carrying other things to cover the shortcomings like I need to do with other tools. More importantly, I gotta support anything that makes the industry more open, repairable, and customizable. Sick of multitools sitting unused in drawers because the toolset wasn't quite right.
Because of the lock bar limitation....I think a cool test would be to compare the force needed to unlock a tool with some other non locking multi tools. Maybe a luggage scale would work.
On the subject of flex, for what it's worth, plenty of full sized, dedicated pliers have flex in the handles too. I have a pair of Knipex linesman pliers,(03 02 180) that I can make flex. Same goes for a pair of 250mm cobras. Solid steel handles, but there is still flex!
Hello USA😉👋, Thank's a lot for your great review. I definively get one. I got the Surge who was the first to allow changing/replacing tool, one swistool spirit, and the last gerber dual force (for his wide opening jaw and his screw driver ). I think the Goat will just be got better with user's retex as yours. They can improve or create tools upon demand without charging customer to buy a new full frame. It is one of kind multitool I have dreamed for. For me I will buy two screw driver bit. I hope they thought of longer and cranked screw driver head. I waiting to see a big wood chisel, a strong pry bar, a socket for all type of bit's nut (of course in metric version🤣). Thanks again from France😉.
How well would the wire cutters work on bicycle shifting and braking cables. Also, cable housings and hoses for hydraulic brakes would be nice to see. Tubeless reaming tool as after-market add-on would be nice to have.
Just pre-ordered 2 today. Awesome deal for $85 each...assuming GOAT comes through with orders. BTW I love the GOAT cutout. Thanks for showing us details. I ordered the file but already planning to grind down the useless end parts
Electrician USA. Multi tools are not used by electricians as much as you think, because they are not insulated. Standard residential wire is 14-2, 12-2, 10-2 romex. That's14, 12, and 10 AWG solid copper. Anything larger then that is beyond a multitool. You can cut these wires individually or cut the romex of 3 wires at one time. I have cut 14-2 romex with my Leatherman PST and Kick. But you need to cut from one side of the wire and then the other because the cutters are not wide enough to cut the whole romex or all 3 wires at one time. I do not cut more then 14 AWG solid copper wire with my multitool. Stranded wire is a good test for multitool cutters to see if you can get a clean cut through all the strands. Regular lamp cord up to 14 gauge stranded. I do not cut steel wire with my multitool. That would be up to the indiviual. Hope that helps.
Thanks for answering so many questions (yay lefties:P) And many of the negatives like the locking bar, clumping etc i have seen coming. Would still like to have one, but the shipping cost, taxes and paying options make it a nogo for me right now:/ As for never coming out with a product that good the first time, the Swisstool came out in 97 and still kicks ass:) But of cause they got a 100 years or so headstart creating multipurpose tools:P Anyway, looking forward to see where the Goat tool goes, hope it succeeds, love the custom aspect of it very much.
4ack yeh, i wait for review on this multitool maybe year, from moment then i saw it first time. Thank you for this video, and thanks Holly TH-cam algorithms what show this video to me)
Dominick you know what you should have in your multitool arsenal or at least consider is the SOG Paratool and Power Plier. I'm a huge Leatherman fan but I like a couple of tool from each company. The earlier SOGs are very well made. Not saying they're bad now. They had a nice weight and a useful toolset. I can have appreciation for almost any multitool. The 90's brought good competition to market. People love Leatherman's breakout Original Pocket Survival Tool which can out in 1983 and the Super Tool in 93 or 94, I love the tip up design of the Paratool, very unique and was designed by knife maker Blackie Collins. The Power Plier introduced the "compound leverage" designed by SOG founder Spencer Frazier. What makes the Power Plier different to is it came with a Robertson square bit driver. Gerber had the Multi Provisional Tool for the Army and Mr. Kincaid from HVAC BUDGET told me the Multi Plier was very well made and popular. I'm not a fan of the Gerber Sliding plier design but that's just me. In your opinion, is the GOAT multitool as well made as some of the tools I have mentioned? Does it have the capability of making a firm statement to the multitool industry?
I think it's better (quality than some..most SOGs, better than some gerber tools, and worse in quality than most standard leatherman tools (not sidekick/wingman).
To tell I wish there will be a serious level of MT customization. The problem to me is when you are in MTs you indeed need 2 MTs and try to find the best complementary tools. And in most cases there a Leatherman brand MT or Gerber or Victorinox SAK as a sort of main MT and a cheaper model with things that aren't present with the main tool and then add mini screwdrivers and wrenches to the mix. To be honest I would love to see insulated MTs then a more ajustable wrench based one a bit like the dual force or with something with knipex style plier heads like those plier wrenches and cobra wrenches. Then I have the ultimate combination of MTs for a lot of tasks. Sometimes specialized MTs can be a must, mostly something designed for a particular job or a mix of jobs that works well together.
The reason I think other companies haven't done this is because then all of their other models become useless. Or if they launch an updated model like the Wave plus.. I'm not gonna buy an updated Leatherman wave plus (for the bit driver) and the surge for the t shank adapter if I can buy the tool and just pop them in and out. I'm actually surprised Leatherman didn't offer to buy them out, then mothball the design. This will certainly give them some competition.. maybe they'll actually put some of those millions into R&D for new ideas and designs?
I ain't a sparky but if you could throw some 1/8 inch stainless TIG wire at the wire cutters that would be a hell of a test. I cut that with my letherman OHT but they do not like it.
Not an electrician but if your looking for a hard wire to cut bore tracing wire is a good test for a multitool. If interested I could probably send you a bit of it
Imo they should have have blank scales available, no goat heads on their pouches, really just change their name, include a toothpick & tweezers some how, improve the saw & file, then it would be the ultimate multitool
God damn I wish I had known about this in time for the Kickstarter. Now I have to wait till at least June because I got mine from Indiegogo. I'll probably send my scales to get a royal blue ano job
I'm not typically an early adopter, but the Kickstarter price is compelling. Projected retail price, not so much. At THAT price, I'd more likely support American made. Interesting innovation nonetheless.
Great tool to have around but with all that extras does it rattles? It seems a bit loose when attached. Also how do we carry the extras? Like you said it would be great for mods & even maybe for outdoors usage. Great presentation mate. Can't wait for the mod vids.!?
How disappointing is it that the scissors can't work independent of the frame? They seem so good I could see buying multiple to stick in various places.
A video of this tool vs the various Leathermans would be cool. Using the modularity to match or beat each Leatherman tool for tool for the use case. Especially interested in seeing the goat go up against the signal.
Dom could mod it to compete with leatherman and GOAT and community could respond with the tools to do so
@@jquantum23 that's what I'm hoping for 😁.
Thats the multi tool I have but the issue I have is usually the knife and having this with the ability to have the exact tools I want would be amazing
It would have to be a massive game changing improvement to replace the leatherman warranty for me personally.
@@flankman9385 the goat also has a warranty.
Thank you for your in depth and honest review on this multitool. I really enjoyed this because you showed all sides and did not hide anything. I think Goat Tools is into something really good, but it will take time. We are so critical on companies that come out with such a unique item that might have a few small issues. I see a lot more good than bad in this one, and can’t wait to see what they do in the future. Maybe they will kick the larger companies into gear 😂.
That modularity is still pretty cool. It seems nice as a lightweight, incidental use tool. You're not going to beat on it, but being able to customize an incidental tool like this is awesome. No longer have to waste space on tools I will never use. I hope they make a kind of swiss army knife version where you just have that one half. Little disappointing about the locking being weak. Having that be replaceable would be nice. And really hope they improve that file.
A completely customisable SAK type tool would be awesome 😍🤤
Yes, that x100 😆. I'm definitely going to try the"One Legged Goat" (coining the phrase now) mod when my tool gets here. The really cool part is that with removable tools that you can buy separately, you can build 2 "One Legged Goats" per tool, making the cost comparable to a regular Swiss army knife.
What I get from this review is that the Goat Tool might be good for modding to specific purposes, for instance boating, (one guy below mentioned a Marlin spike - capitol idea!) or possibly for cycling. (I know that there are dedicated cycling tools.)
The scissors really sells me on the Goat Tool. Also love idea of using other 5mm pivot tools for donors, and really like the brass washer idea. Might be fun to adapt it to the scale tools from SAK, & see if there's a way to stick a very small flashlight to it (maybe just lanyard something to it and skip trying to engineer.) I carry several lights on me anyway, but SOMETIMES having a very small light on board can facilitate a quick, one-handed fix, repair, or rescue.
Just taking out stuff I don't use and putting in washers to make it light is an idea...
Also modding it to take the only 2 keys I use and make it my "everything tool."
Would love a "lightsaber mod" for Goat Tool, but probably have to wait until the new Force awakens...
ooo, keys..thats a clever idea...
The crazy thing is anyone commenting negative things on this this man’s video is TH-cam is free make a channel and make the content you want to watch don’t criticize other people on the content they want to make it’s their channel if you don’t want to see their impression or their content don’t freckling watch it make your own!!!!!!!
I think you hit the nail on who this is potentially for. Speaking personally this is exactly the thing I was waiting for, and backed it as well. I probably won't ever need to do hard work much in my life and a lot of other existing multitools that exists before this didn't really speak to me without feeling like I'm wasting my money on tools I won't use. With something like that I can take out or add to suit my needs, even if I'm more paying for the platform itself.
And hey when I realized I do need a harder use multitool / proper tools, I'll get that later as needed.
Looking forward to your tests and forth ER reviews.
Ended up backing the project cause of your videos. Not the biggest fan of the design aesthetics, but a HUGE fan of the concept and have been wanting multi-tool companies to embrace modularity and customization for ages.
Me too. I bet 80-90% of people who're backing on indigogo are backing the concept and potential future of the platform rather than the initial tool itself. I think goat tools will succeed or fail based on how much community engagement and good will they can muster up from users and aftermarket vendors.
Well I’m really glad I ordered mine. I think the first edition will definitely become a collectors item because I think this company is going to take off.
love that idea!
@@leowolfgang2831 yeah I would keep the box and all associated paper work for authenticity. Perhaps even the shipping box. Not saying don’t use it though. Imo use makes tools even more valuable. It adds character.
Yeah, I backed the indigogo for 2 so I have one to use and one to trade/sell/gift in a couple years 😁. Even if the company doesn't make it (here's hoping it does though). I'm sure they'll be worth at least the purchase price in a couple of years 👍.
@@IlmarBeekman so you would buy a tool or item that is beat to hell over a new item because of character?
@@idontno0 I use my tools. I don’t beat them to hell. And yes I actually collect old axes and a well used (and cared for) tool adds character.
we are all excited and looking forward to the future of this awesome company.
Excited about future of this platform, despite not wanting to get in yet. Good first start suggests future improvements... GOAT XL, customized scales, more new unique instruments, third party addons. Hopefully they shake up market and encourage innovation from the big players.
Yeah, with the open source tools and scales there's a lot of room for community involvement in tool development.
Love this. Being able to customize it to the tools that will be most useful for each individual is brilliant. I’m getting a black one with brass scales. Might wait, but there is a pre order sale.
Very good explanation of the product, I had my doubts, but now I am convinced to buy it. Thank you.
First and foremost I believe in GOAT TOOLS Mission Statement. I purchased one and did “my QA test” on my goat and sorry to say it failed. Basically I put on a chain mail glove and put pressure on each tool to see if it the locking mechanism is good to go. Surprisingly and completely caught off guard; the blade and saw literally snapped at the base. I had the Lexus to the Pinto of multi tools and NONE of the ever snapped NEVER! I still support GOAT TOOLS and expect 2.0 to be a 1000% better.🤞🏾
It's nice to see some real innovation in a multitool and cooperation with the audience carrying it
In addition to whatever wire you're already cutting, I'd like to see what the cutters do to CAT5 cable, because cutting that stuff cleanly with wire cutters is surprisingly difficult
CAT6 is more difficult to cut than CAT5.
I appreciate you being a pioneer in reviewing the GOAT tool. For the 1st gen I think the weak lock bar design is a no sale for me. Tool already has a strong following and the modularity design is great so I don't doubt they will improve the design. Looking forward to more blade styles, jig saw blade adapters, scalpel blade adapters etc. Maybe do a sawzall blade mod video like you did with the wave in the near future for the goat tool?
I ordered the GOAT Tool and cannot wait to get it 😅
I think this will be pure joy 👍
Want. Want. WANT. WAAAAANNNNTTTT!!! :D. Here's hoping that they do a diamond file. One thing about the saw blade, it looks like the saw plate hasn't been thinned down enough. These multi-tool sawblades don't have any actual set to the teeth, so to achieve the same functional benefit of set teeth, the plate (the portion of the saw blade behind the teeth) needs to be ground thinner. I have a Charge+ G10 in my hand right now and the difference in the thickness at the spine of the blade vs the thickness of the spine of all three of the other blades is substantial.
I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of mods the tinkerers across the world come up with for this tool.
Wow! I loved your review! Nice work! Way to be the first out there with a review on the device! II’m looking forward to learning more about the device. I have been wanting a general purpose reconfigurable platform for years. I thought Leatherman would do it with the wave platform. Yes, I want one! I’m looking forward to The GOAT going into production!
I have to admit Maxlvledc, im not really a pliers based multitool guy but this Goat Tool is pretty neat. The customizable feature of it and the ability to easily replace broken or damaged tools might just get me to pull the trigger on one once its solidly in production.
I like this review but it might be a good idea to get a second tool 2 or 3 months after release to see how this tool looks as a non backer and see the consistency of the product.
Excellent review! No sir... No wasted material at all. And you focused on important points... I am so sick of people spending ten minutes measuring and weighing tools lol. I agree with your comments on the locking system... As someone who spends a lot of time evaluating knives for dangerous situations, I try to get people to understand the joint of any instrument is usually an inherent weakness.
Just as no folder I know of has the stability of a full tang blade, people have to recognize the elements that determine what a multi tool can achieve safely and consistently. For this tool (the GOAT) specifically, we are looking at a solid medium sized tool. I would compare it to many SOG tools but not a tool like the Gerber Multi Force, or the Leather man you made a similar comparison with.
It is what it is... They could make a larger platform with more robust tools, or they could improve design reliability through newer versions, perhaps a clip that shuts down the modular tool where there is open space... And as you say, I would focus a lot of attention to the chronic instability of a locking system that always has one open area that can be stressed.
I also agree and you are one of the few people that make this point: Stainless is great material... Do I really need my multi tool to last 3 generations? But making that steel so that function is optimal is important and when a tool has a flimsiness to it, that is troubling. BiBury seems to recognize this, the saw comparison you made was a great example. An aside: it is interesting to me how Chinese innovation sometimes is not noticed. Tools like the latest Roxbury and the BiBury are well made muli tools. Alas GOAT is in the right direction. They seem destined for great things... already that scissors and the xacto type blade stand out, as well as (perhaps) the wire cutters. I look forward to subsequent reviews.
with both the file and saw potentially being duds a tshank holder is screaming to be made haha. so excited to see the gut hook tested if it is sharp as
its SOLID AF, love that gut hook..wish it was 440c as well.
One of the real challenges for a wire cutter is cutting a coat hanger. It may likely damage the cutter. My SOG has a nick in the pliers when I cut one in the middle of the cutter (and not the inner-most section).
I'm backer #51 and haven't heard anything about mine shipping yet, so your comment at the end about no more than 50 out there is almost certainly accurate. Though unfortunately for the rest of us it seems like there is only 1 released, and it's yours. I haven't seen a single post anywhere of anyone else getting one yet, and there's already a bunch of comments with no real responses on the Kickstarter page about when in the world these are ACTUALLY shipping.
This is why I'm going to hold off on more content till more ppl get them.
For wire cutting, it would be helpful to see testing with galvanized hard wire (to simulate garden/agricultural fencing). 14 gauge is most common, but you’ll sometimes see as thick as 12 gauge.
Another great review, Can’t wait for more details. At long last a mulitool I can carry here in the UK without the fear of being arrested!
Needs a t shank adapter and those square corners rounded off. Game changing system.
Watching your video again. I have my finger on the trigger but haven’t purchased yet. Maybe I will today. I’d like some being used videos tho. :)
Modular multi tools are such an exciting idea, can't wait for it and others to go from the Kickstarter stage to public sale. I do wish that there was a larger variety of scales available, to get the comfortable, rounded edges we see on proprietary tools.
Part of the reason I'm excited for the modularity is that I was considering the bibury 22 in 1 recently, but was hesitant because of the 2 in 1 blade and since screwdrivers are a big part of my use case, the lack of a bit driver caused my hesitancy. If there was a way to get a plane edge blade and bit driver on that, the tool would be basically perfect for me, and modularity would fix that without needing to mod the tools, which I don't always have the time to mess with.
Hi, looking forward to see overall scissors performance. And if it would perform SAK-like then may be to try to feet it into my Charge.
This is basically my dream tool, although it has a bit of a prototypey vibe. I could literally add just about any specialized tool I ever need. The phosphor bronze washer idea sounds great.
totally. I'm also a sucker for those colors.
Really, the tool can get the annoying feeling lost that I'm always carrying something around I will never need.
(currently I have a Wave+ with me and it has something that I totally hate and think is worthless weight)
Give it a few years and the "rough edges" will surely be smoothed out...not many add-ons currently but if if successful I'm betting there will be more add-ons 👍
Ok, I'm convinced. Just bought one, with can opener add on
A reasonable review for sure My question at first was going to be what the difference was in the locking and non-locking options for the blades. But I think I understand it now after you pointed out the locking system, as poor as it might be.... Thanks!
Both blades come in both locking and non-locking varieties.
You’ve given m me a tool to consider. I’m in the market to buy a new multi tool. Thank you for the review.
I ordered mine, it's set to get here around June
Nice to see yet another option for EDC, exited for the outcome
So far the possibilities looks great!
Thank you for this video
I think it's a game changer as a multi-tool, especially for the UK, given our more stringent knife laws, the ability to carry a knifeless modular multi-tool that I can customise is really appealing, granted, I don't think it would replace my existing pocket carry given how much functionality I've got, although as a lightweight alternative, I can see a use for it, which is worrying because I really shouldn't buy another multi-tool lol. I'm curious what Ben from TX Tool crib and Jon Gadget would have to say about it actually.
They offer non locking slip joint knife options for the uk!
I am also looking forward to both those guys to review this tool.
Also what do you carry now?
I feel bad for you guys not being able to have locking knives. Ridiculous.
@@patrickbledsoe2176 my current carry consists of: Knipex 4" Cobra XS, the Victorinox bit set, Titanium Pry Bar and Victorinox Pioneer Alox 2022. I opted to take a divergent approach, as inspired by Ben Vallack. It works really well for me, and means zero anxiety on legality.
@@IlmarBeekman we can have them, we just need a good reason to carry one in public space. "just in case, it comes in handy" isn't good enough. If it's used for work then it's fine.
A very pragmatic review. Thank you. There seems to be one reality that might be eluding all of us multi-tool aficionados though: this is a portable, compact and EDC-type tool. It is NOT a dedicated tool for a specific task. None of these (types of multi-tools) from any reputable company will ever replace a proper tool: the folding knife will never measure up to a full tang quality knife like a Gerber StrongArm Fixed Blade Knife, or even a Morakniv. None of them will ever replace a 16oz DeWalt anti-vibe hammer. Etc. (You get the point, I hope.) These items are designed to get us out of a pinch, not to replace the tools of a trade - no insult to the G.O.A.T. name.
get it 100%
Great video on a true innovation. As an aside you sound exactly like Josiah Lambert, a host on the XMU Sirius XM channel.
Not an electrician, but a general tradesman. I’d test stranded copper, solid copper, some kind of soft iron wire like bailing wire, or rebar tying wire, stainless steel lock wire, and high tensile wire. Great video, and super excited to see where this tool goes in the future!
Firstly, your "Wire for testing the cutters" question - you need to get hold of some aircraft-grade "Nyvin" electrical cable - which comes in a multitude of diameters from tiny to monstrous - think approximately one-sixteenth to half-an-inch diameter - with a multi-layered, fire-resistant outer covering, then the insulation, then a stainless steel stranded conductor in the centre. Secondly, and also related to the pliers, it appears as though there is another, additional tool feature here, which is a flat "crimper" section behind the plier pivot area. This could be useful in several situations.
Maybe I missed it in the first video. Reconfigurable for LEFTYS! I know we are a small % but welcome by me.
Keeping my eye on this to see if some of the issues are addressed. But that exacto blade!! I’ll stick to my Spirt X that’s been at the bottom of my pocket for 8 years and finally has a Victorinox clip. New lease on life.
I hope/think future GOAT tools are going to epic. They need mad testing and reviews to fine tune. They clearly have listened to complaints we all have about existing MTs and hopefully will improve the ‘flaws’ in their first releases.
The only thing I don’t like so far is the squareness of the handle scales.
Yep, I told Goat Tools the plier side of the scales should also be rounded but they said the square-ness was necessary as that end is suppoe to be a hammer of some sort
Very interesting. I’ll be watching this tool. Not throwing away my WAVE just yet, but I will be watching.👍
I need this in my life! Putting money aside for it rn. It's like 200 bucks for the tool plus the extra goodies. Although, I think I'll wait until they fully launch, get the kinks fully worked out, come out with more tool options, and refine all the tools individually. Maybe I'll wait for the V2 or 3.. but I am getting one! I'd really love to see a t shank adapter for jigsaw blades like the Leatherman surge has.
Thanks for the update, disappointing about the saw, I use mine on my 23 year old wave a lot, hoping to replace my wave with this.
For the clumping issue, if it really is a problem, you could always add a lubricant to reduce the friction, and reduce the possibility of the tools sticking together.
ill be honest, ive been trying to find a multi tool that actually gets me excited, something that can ACTUALLY be useful and not just a whole bunch of tools youll never use which is why im subbed to this channel. this might be the first one that actually gets me pumped about the idea of having a custom MT. though i am a gamer, so i know better than to get excited for something before it ever hits the market especially something on kickstarter/indiegogo (still remember the ouya hype) but i hope a ton of companies get behind this and starts making custom attachments
honestly i dont know why no other companies thought of this before given tools in the modern day are all about the addons and the razor blade business model, with things like crkts deabolt why not lol
They did..but they also known it would crater their own sales of other tools in their linup.
I can see with a little of tinkering this Goat tool can become THE 🐐 Tool... Just imagine when this becomes perfectas and then they launch a L and Mini sizes... The 🐐
What I like most about this tool is that it might shake up established brands to also think of modularity.
Thís, in my opinion, is the change Letherman should have implemented instead of the Free series.
Super clever construction! I need one!
What would be nice is if GOAT could put stuff in the skins like Victorinox. Ex=. Tweezers. 3” long stainless pin. Toothpick. Ferro rod or sharpening rod. The cutting pliers screws seem like they interfere. Great video
I'm sure GOAT or someone else will come out with a spacer to fill any empty slots. You could probably 3d print something that would do the job for a bit less weight.
not even needed, you can buy them stock, because of 5mm pivot size.
I hope they do well and stick around. However, I will wait until another iteration or 2. That way they can work all the bugs out. Like you said it's an amazing first attempt and I see the value of it but I will wait to see what happens. I would agree 100% that it would be so nice to not have to carry tools not needed/used and the idea of this is amazing.
Incredible and genial multitools....thanks for this wonderful discovered....
Given the softer steel for the frame, how does that affect the "hammer"/persuader's performance?
I don't use my multitool too frequently, but when I need it I really appreciate having it. This means that the wear and lock issues aren't a huge problem for me, and the modularity lets me avoid carrying other things to cover the shortcomings like I need to do with other tools. More importantly, I gotta support anything that makes the industry more open, repairable, and customizable. Sick of multitools sitting unused in drawers because the toolset wasn't quite right.
The frame material shouldn't have any impact on thr hammer.
Because of the lock bar limitation....I think a cool test would be to compare the force needed to unlock a tool with some other non locking multi tools. Maybe a luggage scale would work.
oh..its not a competition..its 3x or 5x as much force to close vs a non locking blade.
On the subject of flex, for what it's worth, plenty of full sized, dedicated pliers have flex in the handles too. I have a pair of Knipex linesman pliers,(03 02 180) that I can make flex. Same goes for a pair of 250mm cobras. Solid steel handles, but there is still flex!
Hello USA😉👋,
Thank's a lot for your great review. I definively get one. I got the Surge who was the first to allow changing/replacing tool, one swistool spirit, and the last gerber dual force (for his wide opening jaw and his screw driver ).
I think the Goat will just be got better with user's retex as yours.
They can improve or create tools upon demand without charging customer to buy a new full frame.
It is one of kind multitool I have dreamed for. For me I will buy two screw driver bit. I hope they thought of longer and cranked screw driver head. I waiting to see a big wood chisel, a strong pry bar, a socket for all type of bit's nut (of course in metric version🤣).
Thanks again from France😉.
How well would the wire cutters work on bicycle shifting and braking cables. Also, cable housings and hoses for hydraulic brakes would be nice to see. Tubeless reaming tool as after-market add-on would be nice to have.
On your wire cutting test cut 12/2 Romex & #12 stranded, if it cuts both of them fine then you probably don’t need to do any more testing.
will look into both.
Don't know those but if it cuts SHIMANO gear-cables for my bike the cutters are gold standard.
@@mooseman6226 the wire I mentioned is copper wire, if you’re trying to cut some super tough steel cable a multi-tool probably isn’t what you need.
Waiting on mine
Just pre-ordered 2 today. Awesome deal for $85 each...assuming GOAT comes through with orders. BTW I love the GOAT cutout. Thanks for showing us details. I ordered the file but already planning to grind down the useless end parts
Very interested!
Thank you 😊
Great concept, great review.
Electrician USA. Multi tools are not used by electricians as much as you think, because they are not insulated. Standard residential wire is 14-2, 12-2, 10-2 romex. That's14, 12, and 10 AWG solid copper. Anything larger then that is beyond a multitool. You can cut these wires individually or cut the romex of 3 wires at one time. I have cut 14-2 romex with my Leatherman PST and Kick. But you need to cut from one side of the wire and then the other because the cutters are not wide enough to cut the whole romex or all 3 wires at one time. I do not cut more then 14 AWG solid copper wire with my multitool. Stranded wire is a good test for multitool cutters to see if you can get a clean cut through all the strands. Regular lamp cord up to 14 gauge stranded. I do not cut steel wire with my multitool. That would be up to the indiviual. Hope that helps.
I'd love if I could even swap the pliers for primary scissors.
Needs a saw holder like the Leatherman Surge.
Thanks for answering so many questions (yay lefties:P) And many of the negatives like the locking bar, clumping etc i have seen coming. Would still like to have one, but the shipping cost, taxes and paying options make it a nogo for me right now:/ As for never coming out with a product that good the first time, the Swisstool came out in 97 and still kicks ass:) But of cause they got a 100 years or so headstart creating multipurpose tools:P Anyway, looking forward to see where the Goat tool goes, hope it succeeds, love the custom aspect of it very much.
"There is some Flex in this". (:
And there is some GOAT in the Flex.
:D
Happy coincidence.
I'm sold now.
4ack yeh, i wait for review on this multitool maybe year, from moment then i saw it first time. Thank you for this video, and thanks Holly TH-cam algorithms what show this video to me)
Dominick you know what you should have in your multitool arsenal or at least consider is the SOG Paratool and Power Plier. I'm a huge Leatherman fan but I like a couple of tool from each company. The earlier SOGs are very well made. Not saying they're bad now. They had a nice weight and a useful toolset. I can have appreciation for almost any multitool. The 90's brought good competition to market. People love Leatherman's breakout Original Pocket Survival Tool which can out in 1983 and the Super Tool in 93 or 94, I love the tip up design of the Paratool, very unique and was designed by knife maker Blackie Collins. The Power Plier introduced the "compound leverage" designed by SOG founder Spencer Frazier. What makes the Power Plier different to is it came with a Robertson square bit driver. Gerber had the Multi Provisional Tool for the Army and Mr. Kincaid from HVAC BUDGET told me the Multi Plier was very well made and popular. I'm not a fan of the Gerber Sliding plier design but that's just me. In your opinion, is the GOAT multitool as well made as some of the tools I have mentioned? Does it have the capability of making a firm statement to the multitool industry?
I think it's better (quality than some..most SOGs, better than some gerber tools, and worse in quality than most standard leatherman tools (not sidekick/wingman).
To tell I wish there will be a serious level of MT customization.
The problem to me is when you are in MTs you indeed need 2 MTs and try to find the best complementary tools. And in most cases there a Leatherman brand MT or Gerber or Victorinox SAK as a sort of main MT and a cheaper model with things that aren't present with the main tool and then add mini screwdrivers and wrenches to the mix.
To be honest I would love to see insulated MTs then a more ajustable wrench based one a bit like the dual force or with something with knipex style plier heads like those plier wrenches and cobra wrenches. Then I have the ultimate combination of MTs for a lot of tasks.
Sometimes specialized MTs can be a must, mostly something designed for a particular job or a mix of jobs that works well together.
Looks good enough for minor everyday tasks 👍🏽
The reason I think other companies haven't done this is because then all of their other models become useless. Or if they launch an updated model like the Wave plus.. I'm not gonna buy an updated Leatherman wave plus (for the bit driver) and the surge for the t shank adapter if I can buy the tool and just pop them in and out. I'm actually surprised Leatherman didn't offer to buy them out, then mothball the design. This will certainly give them some competition.. maybe they'll actually put some of those millions into R&D for new ideas and designs?
For the saw I really hope they the way of the surge to use jigsaw blades. So weather it’s by goat or by open source mods please make it happen
I went with this instead of a new Charge+. Hopefully I will not be disappointed...
Very different tools imo.
I ain't a sparky but if you could throw some 1/8 inch stainless TIG wire at the wire cutters that would be a hell of a test. I cut that with my letherman OHT but they do not like it.
This is the LEGO of multi tool, i assumed 😎🤩😁
Not an electrician but if your looking for a hard wire to cut bore tracing wire is a good test for a multitool. If interested I could probably send you a bit of it
Sadly is made in China.USD 125 not me.Thankyou for review Max
Just a question, why GOAT doesn't stand for what I think and the company logo stands for what I think?
I'd like to see how it handles coax cable and regular extension cords
U could try to cut some fiber optic cable like 1j drop, the cutters must be even and sharp to do it ;)
Those titanium scales need blow torch took to them will look great flamed
Imo they should have have blank scales available, no goat heads on their pouches, really just change their name, include a toothpick & tweezers some how, improve the saw & file, then it would be the ultimate multitool
God damn I wish I had known about this in time for the Kickstarter. Now I have to wait till at least June because I got mine from Indiegogo. I'll probably send my scales to get a royal blue ano job
I'm not typically an early adopter, but the Kickstarter price is compelling. Projected retail price, not so much. At THAT price, I'd more likely support American made. Interesting innovation nonetheless.
Great tool to have around but with all that extras does it rattles? It seems a bit loose when attached. Also how do we carry the extras? Like you said it would be great for mods & even maybe for outdoors usage. Great presentation mate. Can't wait for the mod vids.!?
no rattle thankfully.
It's been 2 days since you posted, and I am having withdrawal symptoms...
The fact that the wire cutter has a replaceable blade set is one issue I have had with EVERY other multi-tool!
Excellent pros and cons review
How disappointing is it that the scissors can't work independent of the frame? They seem so good I could see buying multiple to stick in various places.
hmm, it could work...
This ticks all my boxes. No redundancy, insert what I want, legal where needed and then some and more....
The fixing bolt of the plier cutting blade is too large, so it seems to affect the cutting of the iron. I hope to see it next time I test it.
It's a big critique we need to test for sure.
Hello Dominic. Any chance of providing a link to the replaceable cutters for the Gerber? (Metal ones, not original)
Good breakdown
First thing I’m making is the one tool that every multi tool lacks yet should have standard, a 4 mm bit driver, FFS
seems simple enough. you could also just load it up with a 4mm converter and bit..there is plent of space in front of the driver.
@@maxlvledc good to know! Thanks!