Nice vid sir !!👏👍 I would have include the Surge which is for me the biggest compétitor of the Goat due to the switchable saw/file plus the screwdriver bit holder.
Bit driver on the Sog is a gimmick. Have to keep constant grip pressure even when you are at the "happy days" stage and have the screw actually loose. Can be solved by using a magnet between the handles but then you have a magnet and separate bits to worry about. Better to have the the proper drivers built in 🤔
The screws are ridiculous. Almost to very edge of cutters. I fixed my goat cutters. They are cutting everything I have. I have a lot of vids on the goat. :)
I like my Curl, I've been alternating it with my Bond as my EDC since late last winter. I'm not a fan of a serrated blade or wood saw so both models meet my needs perfectly.
@@hvacbudget8600 very sorry! I was not subscribed. Thought I was. Now I am. I fixed the cutters. They are cutting all the wires that I have been trying to cut. Cutting good. Thanks again good sir!:)
@@andrewfett142 LoL. No problem! So did removing the coating fix everything? Or did you change the cutting angle. I removed some of the coating on mine after watching your video but I'm not sure it did too much. Perhaps I didn't remove enough of the coating.
@@hvacbudget8600 I’m not seeing my first response to your question. The big fix was removing material from plier head so wire had room to let cutter go thru said wire. :)
Sure im drinking and relaxing and enjoying your videos lol but im i missing something again the mp400 its around 70 now and the mp 600 and 600 pro scout are around 70 now i thought higher model numbers more $ 🤔
Great observation. Unfortunately, I think supply and demand causes the MP400 to be more expensive because it is more popular. Sort of like when my kids small shoes cost just as much as my large shoes which doesn't make sense to me, LoL!
Very nice overview, thanks!😊 I would say that if you want more tools, then save a bit more & get the Wave...I love mine....you would be getting more bang for your buck...if you do not, then it makes a great EDC carry when you are out & about, as I do with my REV... I am not convinced that magnets & multitools mix, especially in a shop that generates metal filings...the XC is a beauty, yours is older than mine, it has the V cross & shield stamped on the plier head..nice! V does not make these anymore, sadly, their offering is now the Swisstool Spirit X, which has the regular straight blade...the Gerber is just right for a pocket carry & the clip you put in looks perfect!😊I also like way the plier head is set up...I like the SOG because of the very smooth "industrial" looking pliers...I understand it gives the user a greater grip...the GOAT is the modders dream...how do you think they will make adjustments for folks like yourself who have it & want the cutters fixed? Thanks!
It seems like the eventual fix for the GOAT may be to reshape, remold, and recast the pliers head. Maybe the current pliers head can be used and then just reshaped drilled etc but it sounds like it could be such an expensive process it could hamper the company. Hopefully it isn't that bad.
Tbh i expect at a point, maybe GOAT mk 2 to have optional plier head replacements such as a bigger scissors/pruner, or electricians wirestripper/ wirecutter head for added modding flexibility. And be modular like the rest of tools but diferent hinging slots as the head needs more force. May loose hammering option because of less structural risk to a modding head but may be able add a socket in the back for a rachet or such. Now before someone asks"and go plierless?" The idea is i think having a pair of GOATs would allow you to have totally different tools on every slot of the pair alltogether but still this would leave you with 2 pliers but with a modding head...can opt for one of the other heads for second GOAT see?
I mentioned it at 11:20 and also at the beginning the other tools available for this on Goat's website. What is your favorite tool you would like to see made for this?
Is there a way to buy the frame without any tools in it, so one can build a load out that’s…modular? I can’t see it in the site, but it might not be listed? The whole point of this is it’s customisability and if it comes with a load of tools that’ll never be used, just sit in a drawer replaced by something else, then it’s not much more use than buying and modding a leatherman or similar.
Howdy. You don’t want any of the tools? What kind of stuff would you put in it? I’m liking my goat and being able to switch out things. Just wondering. Thanks
@@andrewfett142 I’ll never use the saw, scissors or spanner so I’d replace them with the file and the Allen key and the scrapper from their current lineup or by any one of the hundreds of .stl file offerings or whatever. I like the idea of the goat, I just don’t really want a drawer of stuff I know I’ll never use…I’ve got enough crap lying around already ;)
@@kettchuk918 👍🏼 o hey the goat file is terrible currently. Barely do finger nails. I ground one end and have been using for a pry tool. It was a nothing thing now it’s a something thing:)
@@andrewfett142 I’m looking forward to the tool options from Wish which are going to be many, varied and of dubious quality but buying something crap for modding for 10p is better than £10 ;)
I’m having a bunch of fun designing new tools for the GOAT. It’s great to tinker with.
That sounds great!
👍🏼
What ideas do you have so far?
@@metallakid14 slingshots, fork, better bottle opener, tripod, and others.
@CircuitsAndStrings Wow! That's cool!
Hey goat people. I did get my wire cutters to cut good. It’s my #15 goat video.
Nice vid sir !!👏👍 I would have include the Surge which is for me the biggest compétitor of the Goat due to the switchable saw/file plus the screwdriver bit holder.
Bit driver on the Sog is a gimmick. Have to keep constant grip pressure even when you are at the "happy days" stage and have the screw actually loose. Can be solved by using a magnet between the handles but then you have a magnet and separate bits to worry about. Better to have the the proper drivers built in 🤔
Oh... that Goat. I thought you meant the Surge.
My SOG Power Access Deluxe is a great tool, but the Swisstool Spirit seems like very tough competition for Goat at this price point.
GOAT cutters also have too big wide screw head (hat) what may interfere during some cut
The screws are ridiculous. Almost to very edge of cutters. I fixed my goat cutters. They are cutting everything I have. I have a lot of vids on the goat. :)
I like my Curl, I've been alternating it with my Bond as my EDC since late last winter. I'm not a fan of a serrated blade or wood saw so both models meet my needs perfectly.
I was wondering why I was getting some subs all the sudden. Gotta be you! Thanks again😁
No problem!
@@hvacbudget8600 very sorry! I was not subscribed. Thought I was. Now I am.
I fixed the cutters. They are cutting all the wires that I have been trying to cut. Cutting good.
Thanks again good sir!:)
@@andrewfett142 LoL. No problem! So did removing the coating fix everything? Or did you change the cutting angle. I removed some of the coating on mine after watching your video but I'm not sure it did too much. Perhaps I didn't remove enough of the coating.
@@hvacbudget8600 I did also do a lot of sanding on back surface of cutters and sharpened edge more too.
@@hvacbudget8600 I’m not seeing my first response to your question. The big fix was removing material from plier head so wire had room to let cutter go thru said wire. :)
I have serious doubts about the overall quality of the "Goat" and it's tools .
Sure im drinking and relaxing and enjoying your videos lol but im i missing something again the mp400 its around 70 now and the mp 600 and 600 pro scout are around 70 now i thought higher model numbers more $ 🤔
Great observation. Unfortunately, I think supply and demand causes the MP400 to be more expensive because it is more popular. Sort of like when my kids small shoes cost just as much as my large shoes which doesn't make sense to me, LoL!
@@hvacbudget8600 ahhh I see Damn s&d lol ya i bet the kids stuff is worse then the tool game
Very nice overview, thanks!😊 I would say that if you want more tools, then save a bit more & get the Wave...I love mine....you would be getting more bang for your buck...if you do not, then it makes a great EDC carry when you are out & about, as I do with my REV... I am not convinced that magnets & multitools mix, especially in a shop that generates metal filings...the XC is a beauty, yours is older than mine, it has the V cross & shield stamped on the plier head..nice! V does not make these anymore, sadly, their offering is now the Swisstool Spirit X, which has the regular straight blade...the Gerber is just right for a pocket carry & the clip you put in looks perfect!😊I also like way the plier head is set up...I like the SOG because of the very smooth "industrial" looking pliers...I understand it gives the user a greater grip...the GOAT is the modders dream...how do you think they will make adjustments for folks like yourself who have it & want the cutters fixed? Thanks!
It seems like the eventual fix for the GOAT may be to reshape, remold, and recast the pliers head. Maybe the current pliers head can be used and then just reshaped drilled etc but it sounds like it could be such an expensive process it could hamper the company. Hopefully it isn't that bad.
@@hvacbudget8600 thanks for the info! Could you let us know what the solution is?
Tbh i expect at a point, maybe GOAT mk 2 to have optional plier head replacements such as a bigger scissors/pruner, or electricians wirestripper/ wirecutter head for added modding flexibility. And be modular like the rest of tools but diferent hinging slots as the head needs more force. May loose hammering option because of less structural risk to a modding head but may be able add a socket in the back for a rachet or such. Now before someone asks"and go plierless?" The idea is i think having a pair of GOATs would allow you to have totally different tools on every slot of the pair alltogether but still this would leave you with 2 pliers but with a modding head...can opt for one of the other heads for second GOAT see?
Swisstool spirit wins in my eyes
It is amazing!
@@hvacbudget8600 it has been my main multitool for over 5 years with no signs of wanting to give up.
yes, my SwissTool MXBS even though it is a behemoth is my number 1 multitool. All else are a distant 2nd.
Did I miss the bit where you mention swapping out tools on the GOAT?
I mentioned it at 11:20 and also at the beginning the other tools available for this on Goat's website. What is your favorite tool you would like to see made for this?
Is there a way to buy the frame without any tools in it, so one can build a load out that’s…modular? I can’t see it in the site, but it might not be listed? The whole point of this is it’s customisability and if it comes with a load of tools that’ll never be used, just sit in a drawer replaced by something else, then it’s not much more use than buying and modding a leatherman or similar.
I don't think you can buy just the empty frame as yet.
Howdy. You don’t want any of the tools? What kind of stuff would you put in it? I’m liking my goat and being able to switch out things. Just wondering. Thanks
@@andrewfett142 I’ll never use the saw, scissors or spanner so I’d replace them with the file and the Allen key and the scrapper from their current lineup or by any one of the hundreds of .stl file offerings or whatever. I like the idea of the goat, I just don’t really want a drawer of stuff I know I’ll never use…I’ve got enough crap lying around already ;)
@@kettchuk918 👍🏼 o hey the goat file is terrible currently. Barely do finger nails. I ground one end and have been using for a pry tool. It was a nothing thing now it’s a something thing:)
@@andrewfett142 I’m looking forward to the tool options from Wish which are going to be many, varied and of dubious quality but buying something crap for modding for 10p is better than £10 ;)
it won't. So disappointing.
👍🏼Wow! Thank you so much Hvac!!!