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I have no idea why TH-cam has marked this as “inappropriate” - I am investigating.
My dad used to say. Speak the truth, shame the devil. These days it's Speak the truth, be shamed by the devil.
I'm guessing that YT finds factual information (AKA, the truth) to be offensive, inappropriate and incompatible with its agenda.
More likely TBH, an EVangelist cried foul and YT consoled the poor wretch by flagging your video.
Any opposing or negative views on the climate change narrative = banned / flagged….
- scary = terrified, bad words matter....
Probably an EVangalist not happy with your video and trying to get it deleted by reporting it inappropriate...
Why are TH-cam issuing a warning about this video? Surely this content is promoting public safety? Well done MGUY!
You Tube puts up warnings that goes against anything the WEF, the virtue signaling Nazis are pushing.
That's because TH-cam doesn't care about public safety, they only care about making money out what they're fully invested in. TH-cam obviously have no engineering experience so they can't prove this wrong so that's way they have turned to censorship. they only follow the money.
More replies censored. The toob is afraid of something.
You know your on the right track if utube is censoring😮
Because the truth is hate to those that hate the truth.
And they’re worried about cows farting 🙄
Someone teach eco cultists the Great Plains was FILLED with American Bison for hundreds of years. Funny how indigenous species of beef are now a threat to muh planet.
@@1Electricman I think you should really try calming down!!!
This comment was a perfectly good comparison. It is Suggesting that the powers that be have got their focus wrong if they think the natural gas product of bovines comes anywhere close to concerns about planet damage!!!
You’re welcome x
It's because some cows fart louder and quicker than a ford mustang as they try to run more quickly RRRRRRRRRNNRRRRRRR 😂
They're not worried about cows farting, they're worried about humans eating nutritious food. So, by eliminating cows, they will weaken us physically and intellectually. They want to sedate us with grains and starches.
@@1Electricman A typical human fart is composed of ~59% nitrogen, ~21% hydrogen, ~9% CO2, ~7% methane, ~1% H2S & mercaptans. The sulfur compounds produce the stink.
Manufacturers of such batteries need to be investigated because it is extremely hard to imagine that they were not aware of these toxic dangers!
im pretty sure they are aware but it comes down to
A) if the battery dont receive shocks/damages it can be considered "normal operation" (discharge-recharge)
B) to swap out the specified chemical that releases said gases upon heating up could cost millions and the new chemical might not be so efficient as current. so until the new battery chemical is tested developed again for possible errors/efficiency in smaller form like tablet/phone batteries they will be hard pressed to re tool their entire lineup for EV batteries
C) lots of chemicals can be considered "safe" as in it wont explode/release certain gases on their own, and in certain conditions they can react and combine with others to make dangerous chemicals (there are videos here on youtube explaining how you can make chemical weapons from 1-2$ home cleaning solutions)
All lithium batteries have this chance of failure. My RC cars run on these batteries and have caught on fire.
@@mercdragonsNo, that's completely wrong lithium iron phosphate and lithium titanate do not suffer from thermal runaway.
That is they will not burn vigorously if at all.
It has to do with the cathode material and whether it produces oxygen when decomposing.
Sodium ion also are very hard to get burning.
I used to work for a lithium company in the US. We produced lithium metal and lithium chemical compounds. If a material become problematic we took it to an open place and let it "weather". Sooner or later it would decompose or detonate. In many cases we never new when or how long these reactions took, but we had the time and distance to let it cook off without injuring anyone. We also had a water reaction system that quenched materials and we recycled the lithium containing solutions. I witnessed a very health detonation there one time and was knock off my feet by the shock wave. Twice during my years there we stopped making products that were uniquely dangerous. One detonated if crushed, the other was hyper toxic. The process for the hyper toxic material was sold to an overseas company and product goes into batteries. Knowing what I know about lithium I drive a petroleum fueled vehicle and invest in oil companies.
@@HiwasseeRiver Really? What specific chemical used in lithium ion batteries was so toxic it was outsourced to foreign countries?
You mentioned no specific chemicals except lithium metal which is not present in lithium ion batteries.
You don't sound like a chemist was it your job to take dangerous stuff outside?
Chemical companies are dangerous without any lithium needed even raney nickel processes can go badly.
Holy crap. Another HUGE reason to steer clear of EVs
Always was the main reason.
Depreciation anxiety, reliability anxiety, range anxiety, insurance anxiety, burned alive when you least expect it anxiety...
I can easily see why the government want us all to have them now.
Here is your new EV, and here is your 10 year supply of Xanax.
@alasdair4161, Excellent comment.
@@grndzro777, muito bem.
@edwardoretardo6855, ICE cars burn because accidents or lack of maintenance, EVs burn because of bad conception.
@edwardoretardo6855 @ edwardoretardo6844 -- a "maroon" ? Are you trying to say he's a "m o r o n" ? Not true. We have been force fed EV's by politicians with their own agendas and naratives, all done without proper testing procedures including safety.. it's us against them, and it's not us who are the m o r o n s. You are and the band of corrupt public officials are.
Lithium batteries are not allowed in the cargo hull of passenger planes! There's the tip right there.
They shouldnt even be on Cargo Planes. Many accidents amd incidents have occurred already and some even covered up, because we are at the whim of different State and Country regulators. Industry has pushed the carriage for years not listening to the evidence.
@@clintthomas1854 No they do not!
well spotted. like many people i failed to make that connection.
But you can take a laptop onboard and everyone has a phone.
Don’t worry about it.
@@1Electricmancheck out next time you go to a post
Office and see what its asks about batteries in your declaration when posting a package. That should ALSO give you a clue. And when you check in luggage you are given a card that asks you if you have packed any batteries (amongst other things that don’t like) in your luggage? Why’s that I wonder?
I'll start parking well away from EVs from now on. Thanks for your videos.
Problem is you cannot control where they park! I went to the shops last night and came back to a Tesla parked alongside. And it was making ticking noises like turbo cooling but ofcourse no turbo
Happened to us on 11/26/23. Back up lithium battery for my brother, a veteran with ALS. Battery was not plugged in & was only used in case of a power outage. It overheated on its own & exploded @ 4:52AM. Everyone escaped unharmed except for me. Was treated for physical injuries & was treated @ the hospital for smoke inhalation. My brother’s room was completely destroyed even though the fire department arrived within minutes. They had to use chemical foam to extinguish the fire. There is no legal recourse because lithium ion batteries are made in China. China does not have quality control like we do in the US. Buyer beware. Lithium batteries are a tragedy waiting to happen.
Oh shit.
Jesus ..... thank god you all made it out and still have each other.
God speed your recovery bro.
Great comment; every one of which angers these EV parasites even more. Good luck to you and yours.
One Obvious Fact of this Is DON'T EVER BUY EV'S OR STORAGE BATTERIES FROM CHINA.
Now imagine being stuck in a vehicle that does this because you can't get out since the manufacturers decided that door opening should be electrically operated push buttons rather than mechanical levers.
@@diecastb
No, there are plenty of frameless windows on other cars without electrically operated doors. BMW, Audi….
@@diecastb "They of course have mechanical levers to open the door manually also." They only have them for the front passengers in most tesla's so the rear passengers are fecked.....
@@hudsonbear5038 And not everyone knows about them, this guy had to break his Telsa's window to get out when it caught fire th-cam.com/video/dQxm6n7SdvE/w-d-xo.html
Every car has mechanical door openers.
@@hudsonbear5038Not everyone knows about them, if you search for "Telsa fire window" you'll find a video of someone that broke his Telsa's window to get out when it caught fire
Thanks for spreading the truth about EVs!
@@badchefi No, you just won't accept the truth. The evidence is here.
@Sonya_Makepeace I agree 👍 he's living in liberal LA LA land, and you're pretty 😍
@@badchefisay hi to the children who are slaving away to mine lithium ion around the world so you can feel good about your insecure self
@@Sonya_Makepeace th-cam.com/video/4IObb6bGrGw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MhbfwT2kHzdyHZKP
@@badchefi We don't have to study anything. The evidence is in the endless videos of these vehicles catching fire. I am amazed at how condescending people like yourself can be even though they are obviously in the wrong.
The stupidity of government leaves me speechless!
I expect that now days it would be shocking if gov actually did something smart
@@pmp2559 Indeed!
I didnt realise that lobotomies were so common???
Not stupidity, evil. They know exactly what they're doing.
Then the stupidity of this channel should mute you for life.
lmao keep excusing them with stupidity. Most governments (and for sure all of those from developed countries) know what they do, anything considered an error is never one, they have all the information we have and more. Don't be as arrogant as to think you are smarter or better informed than people that have every single piece of information at their fingertips, you are only creating an excuse for their evil intents
I'm a 65-year-old retired electronic tech. I have a man cave in the basement of my house here in Pennsylvania, USA. This is also my shop where I build small electronic gadgets. I use 18650 lithium batteries and had just purchased some new ones a month earlier and had one sitting on my bench under my big TV. All of the sudden, as I was watching TV, I heard a hissing and looked down and one of the batteries just spontaneously started to combust. I grabbed it with a towel and ran outside and tossed it on the ground. I couldn't believe it. Now I keep my Lithium batteries inside one of those fireproof lock boxes to provide more safety.
you should reconsider what you are doing.......like maybe a different hobby.
i had a 13650 start fizzing
i was soldering a wire on
fizzed went bang
contents stuck to every facing surface in the room
Hi there. I just watched Stuart Fillingham's channel. He reported that EV parking charges were rising by1,800% in
inner London, reason being "Lifetime Emissions". This includes, mining, production and service. Proof positive
that EV's were never meant to replace ICE cars, but to stop private ownership.
That sounds about right!
Wow! So instead of 10 pounds to park it’d be 180???
Just look at what remains of the Luton Airport multilevel car park after the ev car fire…
Agreed
It's either that or promoting needless and pointless consumption.
“Ignorance is bliss” - Ev owners quote.
"I can't afford an EV"-ICE owners on this channel quote
@@Plisken65 “I don’t want an EV” - rational ICE owners that don’t want a massively devaluing and disposable rolling virtue signal.
@@Plisken65lol. Ok there EVangelist. 7.3L truck costs as much as your 2 electric firecrackers.
@@Plisken65As if they even want one. If they could afford an EV, they would spend the money on a quality ICE car instead.
Bring back leaded gas
I have known this danger since 2013 when the entire fleet worldwide of Boeing Dreamliner aircraft was grounded! This came about after exactly these kind of fires had been experienced in lithium-ion battery packs onboard the aircraft, causing clouds of gas and in some cases fires! The very idea that authorities today are pushing hard for mass acceptance and adoption of EVs is shocking indeed and in my not at all humble opinion, actually criminal, since the problem has not been remedied even today!
Above a certain size they can't be shipped on passenger planes so remedies have been implemented.
@@ghz24 You misunderstand. The Dreamliner used lithium-ion batteries as part of it's standard equipment to power ancilliary devices installed onboard. I was not referring to something that was carried on to the airplane by passengers or loaded onboard as cargo!
@@stewartw.9151 My mistake. But I still posit that it has been addressed with slightly heavier safer batteries like LiFePO and lithium titanate.
If they want us to accept E-cars they need to use safer batteries and make them cheap enough to own that a second (gas) car is affordable.
Or a removable ICE genpack for cross country so it can have a battery only range of ~100 miles like a plug in hybrid that you can leave the ICE home when not needed.
E-Volkswagens instead ot E-corvettes.
EVs should be go to market cars not cross country cars
Or go plug in hybrid except nobody bothers to use them correctly.
@@ghz24 Will not disagree - and glad to see that developments continue in this field, for if not we are looking at a pure catastrophe to come!
@@stewartw.9151 Yeah we need to reevaluate the direction of all transportation.
We will never have sustainable options until guys stop using cars as a display of manhood and the girls are just as guilty for judging manliness based on a guys vehicle.
Beyond that cafe stadards are the real bane to society you can't even buy a small truck anymore.
They are the good intentions paving this road to hell.
How long can they keep burning? This is truly terrifying. Thank you for this very important information.
In the old days journalists would have jumped on this information. Alas, not today as its against the "Narrative" - shame on the media. I also think the honeymoon period is over for EV's.
Journalists are nothing but propagandists now, they don't report on anything independently they report on what they are told to.
Honeymoon? Its more like divorce atm.
In the usa it was just admitted that the rating system for EV's was rigged from the beginning. They are less effecient than engine vehicles and all of the tax credits the companies received were bascially a scam on the public. This is only the tip of the iceberg IMO. I expect solar to finally get its day soon as well
No there are safe battery chemistries to use but range is reduced a little and the consumer is all sbout yhe range not safety.
The new standard range tesla will not burn due to LiFePO batteries being used.
I'll get an EV when they use lithium titanate batteries and can be charged at -30 with zero chance of burning. But I'll still keep my 29 year old Delta 88.
In truth I wouldn't like ANY new car too much newfangled crap to go wrong even on a gas car.
Don't want onstar or a car that thinks it knows better than me.
I want it to obey controls not second guess me. I may have a valid reason to ram the car in front of me.
The good batteries are too expensive, each one costs 100k right now
So not only do we NOT want one ourselves, we have to worry about who we park next to!
That is my concern now for a while. We no longer allow any on our property. But in public no one keeps us safe from that risk.
True, I avoid them like they are already on fire, I wont park my truck anywhere near one.
@@hamaarahof5712 I'm worried that one of my neighbours buys an EV (not a case of if, but when maybe), it ignites and the fire spreads to my house (small land blocks here, so very close proximity of dwellings) which would be a 'best case scenario' ... however a 'gas cloud explosion' in a garage could be even more catastrophic. I envisage that not only vehicle insurance costs will rise, but general house insurance (building & contents) will go through the roof to the point where people won't insure, and then the insurance companies will start to charge even more for those people who actually purchase insurance. And it may not even be an 'EV' that causes the disaster; think of scooters & power tool batteries. Just recently, I saw a TH-cam clip of a Milwaukee battery being crushed in a hydraulic press ... then I suddenly realised why Milwaukee brand their batteries as 'fuel'. Scary stuff.
And all the stupid electric scooters and bicycles in the households are dangerous too. Its crazy
Here in FL after these last couple of floods from hurricanes has illustrated this problem with Teslas and EVs.... Plenty of them burned to the ground!
As a tow truck operator who has had to deal with this.
I can tell you the main reasons this happens are as follows.
#1, Defective bateries.
#2, Rapidly discharging the batteries below ten percent.
So if you go from one hundred percent charge all the way down to ten percent in a very short span of time and you keep going hard on the battery beyond ten percent.
You get thermal run away.
In an electric vehicle , if you're down to ten percent and you're not too far from home and you're still on the highway.
What do you do?
Most people don't even think about it.
Most people don't know the dangers of driving below 10% battery charge. After you've been running it hard the whole way.
A lack of education and proper safety equipment to shut down the car and prevent it from running below ten percent battery charge after it's been running hard.
Would greatly mitigate the problem.
Then rapidly charging the battery after it's been fully discharged or nearly fully discharged immediately after heavy use.
Fast chargers are great for convenience.
But they are bad for battery stability.
Leading to more explosions.
It also does not help that battery packs are massively oversized.
Leading to battery cells being packed very closely together.
Preventing proper cooling of the cells.
Most people don't need more than 50 to 100 miles of range.
Leading people to have to buy a massave 500, 600 or 700 mile range battery.
Then they forget to charge it.
Until it's very low.
So you have them driving around with a low charge. State batthree and then they run it below ten percent while they're running hard.
Then they immediately charge it once they get home on a fast charging station , leading to the ideal conditions for a battery explosion...
It’s incredible how even most scientists give me a blank stare when I ask if they’ve ever heard of a battery “C rating” or “Maximum burst C rating”. LiPo batteries are far too finicky and complex to manage for the average punter who use it mindlessly like you would a toaster.
Why do you keep. Putting periods in.
The middle of your sentences.
@@dingo7055 Not if we get a proper education system in place... and get auto manufacturers to stop trying to get 500+ mile range cars on batteries.
50 to 150 should be more than enough for most people.
@@GeorgeSukFuk Because speach to text is not perfect.
Thanks for the info.
The irony of an ev car ad before this video.
Might not be so bad if the garage containing the EVs are under the house of commons
Guy Fawkes revenge!
No chance of politicians driving EVs
At least until the next election
I DON'T THINK THAT Government cars are EV's
yeah, really.......Great place for it !
I’m no chemist, but as a retired firefighter I recollect the numerous secondary toxic gases produced from the burning of primary gases and chemical. It’s likely there are still unknown risks from these EV fires.
There are firefighters that bring you new updates. It's scary now for firefighters. And I get the info from Germany too, much more strict and those cars can only be moved and decontaminated by specialized firms now in Europe. Wait till that comes here too...
I feel very sorry for the firefighters who now have more dangers to face
Cool story brah.
As a "retired firefighter" you are very much aware of risks produced from metal fires.
Well, i always say; there is a benefit too:
You wont have mood swings after that.
(lithium is the medication against bi polar disorder.)
Ofc if you are dead, you also dont have mood swings.
@@theengine1xWell it's not a "metal fire" it's a hydrocarbon fire.
Also fight tge fire from the upwind side like any normal fire and the toxins will be blown the other way.
Wow. This video was a bit of an eye opener. My son, who is a first responder, was telling me a little about this, but seeing the video really brings it home. I have another son who works in the funeral industry, and has dealt with the lethal results of these fires first hand. Sadly, the car accident in question was little more than a "fender bender," otherwise perfectly survivable. Unfortunately, the driver of the electric car was unable to exit the car before it bursts into flames and he ultimately perished. I'm actually having second thoughts now about buying an electric car. Imagine if it blew up in your garage in the middle of the night. If your family survived, you might still lose everything else due to the fire!
This video and the video you presented should be mandatory viewing by the Attorney General of every country if they have one.
The first question from the home insurer this year was if I still owned the EV...
😂😂
And? How much did/would it have cost you? Or would have they “non-renewed”?
bet you a kopec it was non-renewed @@sirifail4499
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
Now imagine a multi-storey car park filled top to bottom with these.
That's bad.....
But even worse, is if everyone had these cars. I have a few scooters. And I still get leary.....
Like Luton for instance !!
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
or Gasoline + fire or sparks = unexploded bomb
We have that in Norway already. No need to imagine. Like 20%~40% of the cars at the nearby shopping mall parking garage are EVs.
An airport parking garage went up in flames here recently. Started by an ICE car, of course, as is common. The garage had several EVs in them.
Do you want to guess how many EV battery packs ignited? Zero. Not a single one started burning despite the hell-fire around them fuelled by gallons and gallons of extremely flammable gasoline.
So you want to imagine a parking garage full of EVs? Maybe one of them catches fire for some reason. A freak accident. But it can happen. What next? Nothing.. the fire would most likely not spread at all. Maybe the interior of the cars next to it would start burning. But that’d be small fires that wouldn’t spread very fast.
So the fire department would have plenty of time to get to and deal with that one EV fire. They would have to douse it in water for a long time, but that’s manageable. On the other hand, if gasoline starts to burn in a parking garage the entire place will quickly become a lost cause.
There’s a reason Hollywood uses gasoline for the explosion effects: it’s a perfect recipe for huge fireball.
i worked with Lithium battery's for a E-bike battery repair shop , and i did the welding of the battery's
after doing it for 3 years i started noticing the dangers i was facing by even welding them together by hand and my collegues without any good or real protection, even E-bike battery's burn like crazy or can explode, we also did a few motor cycle battery's and car ones they were HUGE compared to e-bike battery's i pointed out it's not right to do those by hand , the way we were doing them, noone in the whole country is doing car battery's by hand , welding them etc. they never took my complaints serious,even after their first building burned down to the ground
i quit that job, it had nice pay, not to bad , but the stress surrounding safety and other work related stress , i couldn't do it no more
I just posted a comment, no profane language, etc. I just stated what I thought of this network and they didn't post it. Love your show and keep up the good work.
It's all about control, they're desperate to keep their jack boots on our necks! 😢
the boots have cleats on them.
They dont want us to have vehicles that can converted to run on water : “Stanley Meyers Hydrogen fuelled car technology “ , - Hydrogen produced on demand , just as the water enters the head of the engine it is separated into oxygen / hydrogen then almost spontaneously burnt in the combustion stroke - not stored in dangerous high pressure tanks. Conversion of a vehicle under $ 2200 US when in full production. Almost all combustion engines and turbines can be converted to run on water . All transport air and land not to mention power stations.Check out His book” Birth of New Technologies 222pages “. Free download and share - Stanley Meyers request - for the betterment of society!.
Was patented- working Vehicle- fact.
What's all about control?
@@boembo6627nothing at all, as you were.
I worry they are pushing everything to electricity and then through "Social Responsibility Scoring" they will decide how much electricity we may have. We're headed down a dark path. Let's turn around and go back to freedom.
Yet another great upload from our hero MGUY in Stralia!
As soon as the professor started talking, I instantly thought, that man's a Geordie!
Low and behold, Newcastle Uni experiment!
Massive respect to one of my local universities.
That is astonishing.The way that scooter exploded in mere seconds blows the mind.Anyone who is thinking of any transport using battery power,this is a must see.Gob smacked.
It is happening far more than is being reported. I am aware of one couple who ;lost their house to a scooter fire and they barely escaped because it happened at night.
Last year there were over 135 E-bike related house fires in London alone.
Many in NYC with fatalities.
@@robertkubrick3738 likewise in London due to them being charged up in hallways but I'm sure it was the fumes that killed them 1st.
@@1Electricman you need 3 elements for a fire :-
1 Combustible material.
2 ignition source .
3 Oxygen.
Without all 3 elements you won't get a fire.
Now with lithium batteries they can self ignite they produce their own oxygen burn more ferociously and at a vastly higher temperature than petrol also it can reignite itself some time after the original fire.
Notwithstanding lithium batteries fires are more problematic to put out than your communal garden petrol lawn mower.
It's time to ban these stupid things!
There's a freedom lover! Make everyone do what I want!😂
@Pliisken65, but you have no problem banning ICEs because of the plant food they emit. Think about that. Oh wait, you can't.
They will, once all the ICE cars are taken off the road, then will wont be able to go anywhere . unless we use peddle power .
@@Plisken65Dude, you were on a troll run today. You've got like 90 comments bashing people about what they believe. And how dare you come on here and tell other people what to believe.😂
Stephenmason, queen of cancel culture
Im loving this channel MGUY, the content is thought provoking and interesting. Keep it coming : )
But all of what he's saying is absolute bs
Been driving Uber here in Southern California, using rental cars. Several other people showed up yesterday at a Hertz dealership to rent cars. Everybody else wanted a Tesla. People want to be cool and do whatever's the coolest thing. A while back I drove a Prius for a week and put it through the paces, driving in each of three modes. I wasn't impressed. Rode in a Tesla the other day, the outside door handles are made for right-handed people. I notice stuff like this because I'm a lefty. You have to press the left side of the handle with your thumb, then grab the right side that pops out with your fingers. If you want to use your left hand, you have to press the left side of the handle with your pinky and ring finger, then grab the handle with your middle and index fingers. Think about it. When you get in and out of a car, the hand you'll use depends upon which side of the car you're getting into. Even the right-hander will use their left hand on the outside handle of a door on the left side. If they use their right hand, the door is right in the way of their body, trying to get into the car. If it's a Tesla, they have to do the two-step every time they get into the car, or open it with their left hand. That's very difficult for right-handed people, who seldom have to accommodate the left-handers world. It's plumb stupid, besides the awful fact of the huge electric battery.
OMG, this has always proved my point. Time to ban all EV from ferries, tunnels, and parking garages. Especially apartment complexs, when are we going to learn...
@gppsoftware That works too, enough of this insanity!
When the quarter of death is
If we will find another safer and more efficient way of storing electricity without expensive rare earth metals then it’s a deal breaker.
You know that the government won't ban EVs or change its policy regarding the forced adoption of EVs unless something extraordinary happens. I know this sounds cruel and a little sociopathic, but we need several massive, devastating fires caused by EVs. If within a short period of time there will be a few catastrophic fires, then, and only then, will there be a massive public outcry against EVs that could force the government to change its policy on EVs.
@masa461 The EV con will be done when President Trump is back in office.
With the rest of the world following hopefully. I don't want to see any mass lost of life. Hence why ALL EV must be banned from tunnels, ferries, parking garages and especially apartment buildings...
THIS video needs to be shared!
People need to know what the real potential is! Thank you!
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
I'm a radio hobbyist and did several months research before buying any Lithium Ion cells. I follow every safety/hazard warning. First, use only the recommended charger, and never leave your residence while charging. I have a fire extinguisher no more than 10 feet away. Hopefully there will be a much safer battery formula coming soon. Great video!
What the hell? Someday? Someday was 2 decades ago we have had LiFePO batteries for decades and they have none of these problems.
Lithium titanate batteries have been around for more than a decade and have zero propensity to burn and can be charged to 80% in 10-20 minutes depending on manufacturers criteria.
They also have a cycle life of 15 to 20 thousand cycles (that's more than 50 years at one cycle per day.
Sodium ion batteries also don't burn like this.
How did you miss these obviously safer more durable batteries during your months of research?
Or did you decide that weight was more important than safety?
I traveled from Indianapolis to Muncie and traffic was halted for several hours. Then we finally started moving and eventually passed a burned out shell of a Tesla. Never heard on the news or anywhere about this incident. If this was a tanker on fire, would have been at least a picture posted.
It's just a matter of time before a family is lost to this madness. If it hasn't already and has been covered up.
It's going to happen. I live in a mult-unit building, 8 units with built in garages, the neighbor next to me charges his Tesla in his garage, The next building, about twenty yards away has a rarely used Chevy Volt stashed in the garage, probably plugged in all the time. The state government here is all in on forcing EVs down our throats with a goal of 2035. It's done with a religious conviction. I think all of them, from the governor on down, will carry the shame and responsibility of all the victims innocently sleeping, yet killed by their blind self righteous fervor.
You wouldn't know in China because the authorities are so corrupt and the people so scared that it could be easily covered up.
There are thousands dead from EV fires. Media is not really allowed to tell the stories...
There are "3 replies" to your comment, but only one was visible before I typed mine.
That should tell you something.
Yup mine was deleted, someone didn't like the truth and reported it, that's how they get deleted. But no worries, I see the truth is coming out anyway. There are lots already dead from car fires, since they could not get out on time. That is not something they will be able to hide for much longer
British Columbia Ferries Corporation needs to pay attention to this. That could take down a ferry ship pretty fast, almost no warning
Yes. Electric vehicles will probably soon be banned from ferries, underground car parks and tunnels.
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
here in norway there are already ferry companies that have banned EV's on the ferrys because fire hazard...
@@DizzyRonson wise
Aussie here...can you imagine The Spirit of Tasmania in this situation. Hundreds of cars ( 500) and people, (1,400) in the Bass Straight? How long would it take to get a rescue servive out in the middle of the journey??? They say 'they will be in a specific area', but I can't find anymore info.
The danger of the explosive vapour cloud needs to be made widely known. Few firefighters are aware as yet of the danger - they go in close with water hoses making the fire worse and are taken by surprise when the cloud explodes. The vapour cloud is far more dangerous than the fire in terms of risk to life and potential damage from explosion. I used to work in an explosive factory and became familiar with the levels of danger in a variety of explosive mixes.
My son is a mechanic and he's about to do his EV cert's. I'm going to send him this. Thank you.
I watched prof Christianson’s video a week or so ago. I recommend everyone to watch it. Ok it’s an academic’s safety lecture at a conference but this should be shown on mainstream tv as a lesson. Bloody scary!
I would recommand to watch the longer webinar version of the video, not the shortened presentation version.
I stopped and remembered the old Jane Fonda movie "China Syndrome". This movie and the small radiation leak (by comparison to more recent events) at Three Mile Island, spelled the end of nuclear power in the United States. Sadly, real life dangers of EVs are being ignored by the media and Hollywood.
@@markthomas207Looking back her film was likely not intended to improve the country
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
We store e-bike batteries at work, the local fire brigade visited to confirm we were storing correctly, outside in separate buildings etc, when I asked them about EV fires all three firefighters said they would never own one. Enough said.
Minneapolis is buying electric fire trucks. LOL
911, in case of fire call back in 6 hours our trucks are charging right now. If this is the fire department, start applying for a job, that station is gone.
Yes, People in the Fire fighting Field Know what a Danger they are. Our Labour Government here in Australia don't know, and Don't want to talk about it. They have just pushed though NEW Taxes on ICE Vehicles to make them DEARER, so that you will buy an EV. I hope when the Liberal National Party get back in, they will RECIND this Stupidity.
agree, regular cars never burn
As you are likely aware the many EVs that had batteries breached by corrosive salt water during Hurricane Ian in Florida. Same issue, that when the vehicles were towed for repair/salvage they often reignited several hours later and the fire would leap & extend to other vehicles parked close by. They learned quickly to build a buffer zone of void space to prevent further extension. This caused a bit of a problem because it took up many more parking spaces. A lot designed to hold 200 vehicles could only place about 25% of that total if they were EV fire risk.
to my maybe not complete information, EV accident cars with battery damage are dropped into a container with the battery under water to prevent further battery issues
Avoid parking near these incendiary devices!!
This is alarming!! Every EV dealer and their salesman staff, including every buyer of Evies should be made aware of these risks!
EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......
They know.
@@arniekando6846you are wrong and your research is flawed. There are 98% more ice vehicles right now that EV's.
@@arniekando6846 if an ICE vehicle catches fire it wont burn like a rocket and can be put out,, when an EV burns, it burns hotter, faster, bigger and cant be put out as easy as an ICE fire... you are 98% more likely to die in an EV that catches fire then you are in an ICE vehicle... its not just about how many that burns, but also how they burn..
The shit will hit the fan when people are being killed because of this madness.
Its like a school science experiment where they tell us "don't try this at home", but that's precisely what does happen
The regime is forcing us to try these wild science experiments at home with their electric car mandates.
Humans should not be used as guinea pigs, or guinea pigs for that matter
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
Gasoline + fire or sparks = unexploded bomb
Oh my goodness! Thank you for sharing.
I believe that your hits are very informative and interesting. Your show might save several lives over the years, keep up the good work and I'll watch you until I die. TH-cam SUCKS.
From CASA (on planes) for the know it alls “ You can't carry lithium batteries rated at 160Wh or more unless they're for wheelchairs and other mobility aids.. For all other lithium batteries rated at 160Wh or more, you must transport these batteries as dangerous goods cargo.” Note the words ‘DANGEROUS goods cargo’. So they’ll have to be packaged a certain way and it will depend on quantity.
How did any of this pass safety standards and get onto our roads?
They can't keep burying the truth forever.
One major tragedy that results in a few dozen deaths and these mobile explosive devices will be forcibly retired.
They had no standards. ICE vehicle standards weren't applied. That's why they have a 12 inch iPad on the dash, mostly below eye level.
@@robertkubrick3738Yeah, but it helped sell the car. When was the last time an ICE vehicle was designed with the driver and passenger's seats located on top of the fuel tank?
Everything is corrupted that is how they passed safety standards and got onto our roads.
No, there are thousands dead already. They cover it up...
@@markthomas207 Of course they don't put seats over the fuel tank in an ICE car.
thank you, sir, you are a good tech man, but your footage of these batteries is all we really need, as the data is also appreciated, thank you, shalom
Thank you for your warnings.
Keep it up.
Basically an ev is an unexploded bomb waiting for your complacency.
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
And an ICE vehicle...isn't?
Gasoline + smoke or sparks = unexploded bomb
@@CharveL88 No, it's not.
The usual fuels used in ICEs are quit stable, and they require oxygen to burn.
They are stored energy, but its energy held chemically, released only at high temperatures and when mixed with air.
EVs have their energy stored electrically, it's a electrical charge, like a loaded spring. There is nothing required for it to release its energy. Once you critically damage the battery you can't stop the process. You could put the battery into a vaccum, cover it with water, throw it into a pool of liquid nitrogen, nothing stops the release of its energy, all while it creates toxic fumes.
You can literally just put it into a container and wait till it's burned out.
Every car ice or ev is.
How long before there’s a class action lawsuit against EV makers for this insanity?
The problem are the parasites in government pushing this crap.
When the fanboys start feeling the pain of losing family members to these death traps.
How long before oil lobby gets sued for funding totally false videos like this one you are commenting on?
@@johnn17golf What was false about this video?
@@Thyalwaysseek The risk levels are false, the 2800 number is false, the supposed givernment decree is false, WEF involvement is false.
The biggest lie, though, is his ommission - not mentioning the oil lobby firms that fund his videos.
Brilliant video thank you for the information 👍
Just an ordinary gas cloud... But watch out! Because that's no ordinary gas cloud!
I've heard Prof Paul Christiansen lecture live for the TFS in Hobart. It was eye opening! His lecture has helped inform how my Brigade and Rescue Unit will be responding to and managing EV crashes and fires.
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
I would argue that the scariest part of EVs is just how devastating they are to the environment. As Kermit 🐸 would say: "It's not easy being Green".
@@1Electricman Did you not watch this video , have you never watched how mining and damage to the environment that it take to make an EV battery
"If you want to see how much of a fraud green energy is, take the time to view the documentary Planet Of The Humans."- Dane Wigington.
@@1970pizza don't argue with the stupid person.
@@1970pizza Your right,lithium mines look like asbestos mines, it's freaking, look like XIX th century plans.
@@1Electricman You lose! It's lose... not loose.
Great stuff guys.
Fires in underground car parks - nightmare for firemen. Don't park beside an EV.
This is why I resigned from Fortescue. They just won't take it seriously.
I read somewhere just the other day that in America there was a Hospital worker who’s Tesla burst into flames couldn’t get out as the doors wouldn’t open, people passing by were trying to break the glass to save him but it wouldn’t break. They had to watch him burn to death now they will be traumatised for life, I wouldn’t have an EV if I was given one for free.
That does in no way sound like an urban myth...
Google "man burns to death on mobility scooter in Geraldton WA 2018"
Not the same though. Is it?@@bushy0299
@bushy0299 Because that's being locked in a burning tesla?
@@ghz24 No, he wasn't even locked in and he succumbed to a lithium fire. There was a bloke here in Australia not long ago that drowed in a hire car because he couldn't open the windows though.
The mining for materials for the EV batteries and the disposal of the batteries does more environmental harm than oil and gas. We have corporations already doing "carbon capture" and reusing it to produce more energy. Let's invest in that. You know why they don't push for that? It's all about control, period! They don't care about our environment.
Footage of fires and smoke movement inside of structures is always so interesting
THIS is why M Guy is becoming one of my Top 3 favorite Ozzies, along with Greg Norman and Crocodile Dundee!
Keep it up bro!
Greg Norman moved to America and gave up on Aus many years ago , and Croc Dundee is a figment of Hogans' imagination .
@@beerancher3225 🍻 Top 4 if you include Ozzy Osbourne 🍻
He's not an Ozzie, he's a bloody whinging POM.
@@bruciew50 The only good thing about OZ is its a minor improvement over Pom Land, Wont Last OZ has jumped the Shark and circling the drain
Try John Cadogan as well
EV owners are just plain dangerous.
They're in sane fantasists.
EV-angelists are plane stewpid
@@user-se6ue2pv7p 🤣🤡
@calmdown1973 I've never seen ICE vehicles combust in such a manner. It's also esp ironic;since, they say how EV's are so green, and good for the environment.....
What if I have a couple of EVs and a few ICE vehicles?
JUST THINK BACK to that recent situation with a RoRo ship that had thousands of cars on it! 🤔😮
😎🇬🇧
An EV with degrading battery does not cause a thermal runaway. The BMS prevents this.
Thank you so very much for exposing all the dangers associated with an EV.
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
It's not just breathing the gas, contact with skin can cause permanent disability.
"can cause permanent disability" Seems that happens with EV owners without a fire........
@@hudsonbear5038yep, they are definitely disabled
It's probably absorbed through the skin. Likely the eyes as well
@jazztheglass6139 There are two firefighters that are blind due to fighting EV fire. I mean it is a risky job, that's a given. But all new added problems due to EV fires now.
anybody in the region wlll be affected, hello insurance claims.
Alot of cars catching fire in the U.K, poor U.K...
Great work MGUYA
OK, this is just insane! Watched the whole video you referenced.
Who wants to buy a toxic bomb?
I knew they were bad, but had no idea just how bad.
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
They are REALLY dangerous. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I think they would make a nice mind field for around the house.
Shit you dont want that in your house whilst you sleep
There's a video floating around of a dog that got into some things while the owners were away and started chewing on a backup battery and it to popped and then exploded. Thankfully the fire department were able to get there in time to rescue the dogs but the house was trashed.
Not worried about it as I have never been brain-washed by governments.
I read somewhere they are charging EV owners more for their cars because of their weight. One owners EV would not run while away from home, so they called to get home help, the first help vehicle that came could not carry the weight of the car so a second more robust vehicle had to be called to get the car home. Just imagine all the extra cost.
It's quite possible that tow truck companies will just refuse to carry them. I know if I were driving the truck I would seriously not want to haul away an EV that was damaged in an accident.
I am NOT an EV fan for many reasons, but weight isn't one of them. A fully loaded Tesla Model 3 weighs in at about 4100 lbs. My Lexus GS 350 AWD weighs in at 3700lbs. Now, trying to lift the 400lbs difference may be tough for your or I but for a tow truck, 4100 lbs is nothing. Heck...the venerable F150 can go from 4100-4900 lbs and the three top selling vehicles in the states are pickups that are not light weight.
@@davidpavlich8939The same people complaining about people owning SUVs and driving in them by themselves with no passengers, also would be fine with a single person driving around in an EV that weighs as much as the SUV. That's a bit problematic
@@matthewmosier8439 I can't argue your point. What galls me most about the EV is that we're in a free society but it looks like the government is going to do their damnedest to take away our freedom to choose what we drive and that's just wrong. Now, I'm a geezer and will have assumed room temperature before the mandate is in full force, but I can still raise a stink about it. 😉
@@davidpavlich8939its not about what the tow truck can lift. Its about what the tow trucks rated weight limit is. Gross weights , axle weights, tow limits etc.
This gives a whole new meaning to the "car bomb".
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
That was exactly what came to my mind 😮 this is huge cause some very bad people could use it as a freaking bomb. As u can see initial phase of fire burns like thermite so it could be used for Iron/Estructural Melting. 😐😮
@@lopiyono it really can't do either of those things. Dust can detonate but nobody has weaponized that fact for good reason. It's not dependable and the conditions for it happening are very rare and hard to recreate in a lab and impossible to recreate in the field.
This is a hydrocarbon burning and a can of gas is a million times cheaper and more dependable.
imagine is most people drive ev when carrington style solar flare in our direction
I was reading a study on lithium, and one thing that I found interesting is that when burning, it releases a bunch of different gases, and one in particular is known to deplete the ozone layer
We had a Tesla ignite in the next town over. Luckily the driver got out. The car burned for hours, the fire dept would extinguish the flames but they would shoot back up. THE FIRE CHIEF SAID HE ESTIMATED THE CAR WAS BURNING AT 5000°F, half the temp of the sun.
I seem to recall reading that one of the gaseous products is formic acid, and that breathing it can be severely damaging to the lungs.
Thankfully breathing petrol and diesel fumes adds years to your life and makes your clothes smell lavender sweet!
@@johnn17golf Stop giving yourself a thumbs up
@@trkstatrksta8410 You took 3 days to come up with that false accusation? That's all you could muster?
Deflection is not your strength, tk!
@@johnn17golf And you can't come up with anything but sarcasm. Why don't you just say petrol and diesel fumes aren't that healthy either. And it didn't take me 3 days!!! I only read this item a few hours ago. I notice you haven't got any more thumbs up. People hate sarcasm. It's the lowest form of wit. And saying deflection is not my strength is a pretty irrelevant thing to say as I was not trying to deflect
@@trkstatrksta8410 sorry for your butt hurt! Next time, stop using fake accusations as an 'argument' and you might get some of that attention you evidently crave so much.
Lol ive known this for nearly 20 years ask any RC car ,plain, enthusiast we've been blowing up lipos for years 😂
for this very reason i have stuck with ICE propulsion systems
Because EV batteries and RC cars only differ in size, right?😂
@@Plisken65Yep, pretty much.
And most with lipos have them in flame retardent satchels well away from the house.
@@Plisken65 play with one little
13600 aa battery see what happens
I just happened to visit a rechargeable Lithium battery manufacturer in PRC some years ago, too. I was told the liquid inside is actually kerosene. During manufacturing, water vapour is strictly forbidden, otherwise the active Li compound will degrade very soon and the cell will bloat or burst. The result will be disastrous.
My friend does fire damage repairs for insurance companies.
He said that insurance companies distort statistics.
Some battery fires are recorded as electrical fires.
Especially if they take place in the garage in the apartment.
So there are actually much more battery fires than is known.
You finally found Dr. Christensen...........
I found him and sent in a tip and got no thanks.
I asked our local ferry boat crew on how they deal with this and if they had a plan in place. They told me that they did have a plan and that it basically was a blanket. I told them that passengers should be informed of emergency procedures and that there were a lot of gas cars parked beside electric cars in a confined space. Our ferries hold around 300 cars for a two hour trip. Not exactly comforting to think that something like this could go up in flames with poisonous gas in seconds anytime.
Just like all other laws, it will first take a catastrophe before a law is made to ban EV's. It's coming, perhaps in a week or perhaps in 20 years, but it will happen and I hope you and I are not directly injured by it.
The blankets seem to work to stop the blaze. But as soon as they are removed, it rekindles. Temporary stopgap measure. They should always place them in a spot where they can be pushed overboard for safety. This is what the Navy does with burning aircraft.
@@cvn6555 How you gonna push it overboard when is ignites and it is an inferno in 10 sec. I saw an EV fire on highway from a kilometer away... that is the biggest blaze i have ever seen. Did not know at first it was an EV burning, but i kinda guesed it could be since i have seen regular fires on highway, this was on another level
@@lukasalej5710 Have them positioned in places near openings or automated openings. Throw the fire blankets on them then use a bulldozer to push them out. We didn't push intensely blazing aircraft over the side; it was after the flames had died down that the dozer would shove them off. Fire crew right there, hoses charged to protect the dozer operator. They said it was all the magnesium that caused such problems that they couldn't get them put out and stay out. Those blankets work extremely well to attenuate but not extinguish the EV fires.
Have you ever asked if gas cars explode or catch fire?
That parking lots scene, imagine losing your expensive EV, then you had to pay for the damages, for the other cars too.
Absolutely disasters.
This scares the hell out of me. these are all throughout my home . They are in everything.
And they can explode ANY given moment.
@@svenjansen2134 You can get rid of LITHIUM Batteries at any LOWES.
Thank you for bringing this up.I had a smash repair business for 30 yrs & I’m glad I’m out.These EV plain & simple have the capacity of extreme danger.Imagine one igniting in a smash repair shop with other volatile chemicals there.Insurance side will go through the roof.Sydney.
I can’t believe how fast it exploded and for the cloud to appear - you literally have about 3 seconds to escape!
Not even enough time to put a smoke hood on. Very dangerous.
You can easily google the counter statistics of petrol fires and find its even worse and on top of that EV`s are 98% less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles. these posts are really unintelligent..........This is insurance statistics. An insurance company does not have the luxury to lie to itself because then it will bankrupt on the risk......This post is soooo much full of bullshit.....and lies.....
And the government wants everybody to have one of these inside their garage... 😯😯
Thank you for this excellent educational and cautionary video. I will not even consider an EV after seeing these runaway explosions.
Bruttle , Wow it just gets from bad to worse, very informative thank you.
"Bruttle"?😂
Shit that's horrifying to see what can happen omg...
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I am shocked! I will not park by an EV if I can help it. Brilliant video, should play it in schools.
This entire thing is not about environment, it's about control and money.
Klaus has already taken that inferno in an apartment building into account. Just do as you are told 🤔🤔🤔