The statistics are skewed, BUT, I'll give you that one. Now, how bout the fact that battery fires are AT LEAST 10x more intense than gasoline fires, and take FAR MORE than 10x the effort and material needed to extinguish them. Might want to include that ICE car fires are almost always started in their electrical system, the fuel rarely involved, as opposed to EV fires which are always 100% electrical, and nearly always completely spontaneous. Facts!
Let’s see your source.You must compare apples and apples.Show me your data for spontaneous combustion in the two vehicles.This comparison has to be adjusted for miles traveled,passenger cars only,and spontaneous versus collision.Without this you’ll have a skewing of results
The fires per type are not the first issue of this video. The well founded and expensive fear that the car dealerships have for these monstrosities is. Lithium is death, not just for countries that dig it up, but also for countries foolish enough to think that EV is even practical. The only reason it floats today is by pressure from governments who represent fanatics.
@@hugegamer5988 That's kind of analogous to snorkel kits for ICE-powered vehicles, and it makes sense. No battery will behave well if you short the terminals together. EVs and hybrids both have numerous small cells, all cross-connected. With that many terminals and connections, if you don't hermetically seal it against liquid/salt, those batteries are absolutely going to short out, superheat and catch fire. I once accidentally shorted a 12v car battery with a breaker bar and it burned up it about 5 seconds. EVs are nothing new in that regard.
and people dont realize he's an actual engineer with 20 years of professional experience. He knows what he's talking about instead of a typical youtube rant.
Yep didn’t cave to the pressure for the jab didn’t cave to the pressure for an electric car won’t cave to the pressure for other lunacy that the government governments around the world come up with freedom is awesome
I work as a fraud Investigator for a Canadian insurance company. I deal with engineers and EV fires. They can take hours to extinguish, and can easily reignite. Some F150 lightnings have been spontaneously combusting
The F150 Lighting is switching from NCM batteries to LFP batteries for 2025 model year. LFP has a much lower internal impedance so far less chance of thermal runaway
Oh you are the guys who will pay $60 a day for storage but not $60.03/day or your taking my boss to court lol. Knew a guy who owned another company, he got sued over a tow bill. Bill was like $800. Insurance sued because they didn’t like the rates and storage and dragged it out over months and eventually settled for like 3x the original bill. Poor customers car sat in the towing yard not getting fixed the whole time. I get it that the pirate companies in Toronto are greasy, but a couple insurance companies expect us to roll out a $200,000 truck that’s burning $1.80/L diesel with a driver making $30/hr to do a recovery with an hour of cleanup 200km away for $100 😂
Just watched a video in Australia, about 2 cement trucks burning or exploding . They were new EV and burned on a highway and was a safety hazard with all the chemicals going into the air.the man posting the video was a fireman. And he was mad because the news did not tell it was a EV.
There was only One that burned on the highway - just, just out of a major road tunnel that has tankers aren't allowed through - the second one got thermal runaway in testing
I am beyond amazed insurance companies haven't clamped down on how many very high horsepower cars are being sold. They did it in the 1970's. We are at a point the amount of speed and power available can't be justified for a road going car. Yet on the flipside if you want to buy a small economical car you can't do it because the rules forbid it.
Small correction, the $61,000 bill also covered the install. If I remember correctly, the battery cost was around $56,000, so the owners insurance company wrote-off the one year old vehicle.
If you watched the 2nd MotorMouth follow up and Ionic guy on TH-cam they corrected there statements saying that the cooling system was damaged as well as other items. That’s part of the the added costs.
I can't speak to individual cases but several insurance companies have shown the risk of fire is many times higher with gas and diesel vehicles than battery ones. Add to that fuel storage for lawn mowers and such being another high risk.
@@rayfisher2454 the percentage doesn't matrer as the odds are calculated on per 100k figures. EV'S are proven many times less likely to catch on fire with their volatile fuels. How many ships caught fire do to fuel issues, answer is many more than from batteries. People need to use some common sense. Considering Sodium Ion batteries will soon replace Lithium Ion batteriea and its as simple as removing one battery with the other. Battery technology will change many times over time but they will remain recyclable and able to charge many cycles while burning fuel allows you to only get one use out of it. Most people, about 90% can easily use the curent distance EV'S provide as most people travel less than 50 miles a week.
Another informative video. Tony. I drive a 30-year-old Saturn SL2 and a 35-year-old 88 Ford Ranger. At 73 years old properly maintained. Both these vehicles will ask me the rest of my life. Upside? Great vacations! Lots of toys and don't worry about getting from place to place. Downside, my friends all tease me about my old cars and being cheap. I don't think being smart is being cheap.
Absolutely nothing wrong with this. I'm on the same boat. I own a '98 grand prix & a '96 S10 pick up. While they both we neglected used vehicles prior to my ownership, I repaired both engines for under $700/each. Which both are rumming like a top. My wife owns a '09 Corolla since new which now has over 205k on the clock. Maintenance is the key word here & the car has been paid off several years ago. All three vehicles are servicing their purpose and is saving us money in the long run because we don't have a expensive $600 (or more)/month car payments. Which let's us to pay off our home faster or allow us to buy things that we want (IE: vacation trips, home renovations, etc) Being savvy and resourceful is not being cheap but being smart with your hard earn money is how you go about using it!
In my humble opinion this is what saves the planet. Not constantly upgrading and using resources. I just turned 50 in 2023. I have never owned a new vehicle. I always bought used and kept maintenance up, mostly done myself. In fact the message I am typing now is on a 2018 model phone. Still works, no need to upgrade yet.
Nice thing about being a mechanic is that you have the entire field of vehicles, that everyone gets rid of...dirt cheap. 77 Toyota Hylux.....$200.00 pervious owner had a $800.00 rebuilt engin installed, still smoked! 2 tickets, of $150.00 each pulled off valve cover, started engin, sprayed over head cam with WD 40 Smoked like a WW2 destroyer in a John Wayne movie. Replace the valve steams seals 2.00 each × 8 $16.00 replace Head gasket $25.00 That's 7 years ago. Daily driver. 1960 Ford...F100 4x4... Free 4 flat tires, Lady husband died in 2002 and sat on property, gave it to another gentleman, but couldn't afford new tires for it. That's in 2012, I asked about it for sale, and I am thinking $1000.00 She said if you can get it out of here in an hr, it's yours for free! No problem, ask her what type of beer does she drinks, she sai, Rainier. (Oregon finest😂) Put new battery in it, pulled the plugs, put in first gear, using my starter switch walk it up on the car carrier in 20 min, Sat and finish off that 6 pak, She ask me where you from boy? I said right her in Oregon, I've never seen that done before! Using your starter switch to wallk a truck up on a car carrier. 😊Went back to the store, bought another case for her, $14.50 Done a tune-up, total $60.00 for plugs points, condenser, 2 plug wires, fule filter, pulled the gas tank, 1 bottle of dawn dish soap, .89 1 bag of marbles. $1.00 Rattle the crap out of the gas tank, Flush 3 times,1 case of Rainier beer $14.00 total time 1 day, Drove truck 2 miles to the mail box, Replace all lubricants in Axels repack bearings in the 4x4 unit, change oil, new filter 1 more case of Rainier beer, Total time 2 days 6 cases of beer...cost less than$1000.00 including 4 American Trk tires all weather mud and snow, 1 sweet sweet sweet grany low 4x4 all American truck.😂
After Hurricane Ian in 2022, EV’s that were flooded with sea water started auto-igniting and the fires spread to many other vehicles. It was so bad of a situation that the EV’s had to separated by 100 ft from any other vehicle.
I live in the UK and my home insurance doubled. I've cancelled it because I just can't afford it. This is a very troubling trend. Glad you're on the ball Tony, keep up the great work.
I'm in Florida USA and am having to replace my 16 year old roof to be able to get home insurance. The roof is a bit worn, but has never leaked and the roofers said it has at least a few years of good use left, but I have to replace it to find anyone to insure it. Hurricane insurance here also has a high deductible (2%-10% of the home value so even on a small home it can be $5-$25,000 US). Costs have doubled for many. Of course, we've had a lot of hurricanes recently and building material costs have risen, which explains a lot of it, but my home is inland and on high ground without any claims from many past hurricanes over its 50+ year history. It's a cement block home with a concrete slab foundation, so it's not going anywhere. I'm considering self insuring it and putting the premiums in a savings account in case I ever have damage instead of paying them and still being on the hook for 99% of potential claims (aside from it being obliterated). If I were on the coast it might be different, but inland we rarely see more than category 1 winds which is not a major issue.
@@wyllie4961 I've considered pulling funds from savings to pay mine off so I can drop it. I can buy a liability policy for $550 USD a year. I don't owe a ton on it and it's a rental, so I'd be able to take the rental income that currently pays the mortgage and put it into other investments and the insurance portion of the rent and put it into a storm fund. Still thinking it through....
@@mikelemoine4267 Good plan now implement it and err on the conservative side with your replacement cost estimates. Not only will you be standing up on your own two feet as a responsible member of your community, you will also, with a bit of luck, be building a fat retirement for yourself at the same time. Kudos! Almost nobody had property insurance in Florida prior to 50 years ago yet somehow they managed to thrive and build out a fantastic state in spite of nasty storms undoubtedly warned about to every newcomer from every person who had lived there for a couple of decades. Make sure to let the prospective new neighbor know what they can expect in the coming decades. Sooner or later it will happen.
Sorry, Live in Seneca County, Ohio, which is about 50 miles from Toledo. Most of the news reporting is centered around not EVs and the issues but around jobs and the impact on the UAW. So I simply IGNORE the reporting as they ARE covering up the issues. Around here I believe I have seen ONE Tesla and several other EV's, all with out-of-county registration stickers and unfamiliar car dealer, way outside the county, identifications attached. Oh, by the way, there is absolutely NO Public charge station in the County.@@joshuabaker5712
Now that Musk is being accused of anti- ism there are many hit pieces about Tesla's and EV's. Toyota RAV 4 Prime weighs 4,300 lbs. Model Y, 4500. How many articles do you see about Rav 4 being tough on tires?
Reminds me of when the _Freemantle Highway_ caught fire. They fire officials claimed that no EVs were involved, that all the EVs on board survived...and yet, there's video from CCTV aboard the ship of burned EVs, and when they started unloading, more EVs - some burned to a crisp, others still just starting to go into thermal runaway were caught by the camera. They've been caught lying multiple times now, but until there's a consequence for this dishonesty, it will continue.
Have you seen the maritime insurance industries reaction to that fire? And KXY (I think) who are one of the largest vehicle shipping lines out of Korea have issued a statement about the future options for moving EV's. Likewise the Australian maritime authorities - nothing implicated yet but both a direct result for the MV F H
@@CosmicSeeker69 You are right it is a 'reaction'. We were recently show when 1000s of damaged EVs are totaled in the US the shipped to Ukraine where they are repaired and resold. It would seem shipping 1000s of greatly damaged EVs should be burning lots of ships. Maybe the people with problems shipping EVs need to talk to the people who ships wrecks. We need truth not biased hysteria.
I manage a towing and recovery business in Missouri. On October 11th we were called to a 2 vehicle accident in town. The crash involved a Ford Fusion and a Mercedes EQS suv. The Fusion received damage in the front end and the Mercedes received damage to the drivers side rear door and rear wheel. Both vehicles were undrivable and required to be towed away. We took both to our storage lot to await insurance company instructions. On October 16th at 1:40 am we got an alarm call from county fire about a fire at our lot. I appears that the Mercedes caught fire and it had spread to 9 other vehicles. It took FD over 4 hour to extinguish the fire. They had us drag the SUV out of the lot because they told us it could reignite even hours later. That Mercedes sat in our lot for 5 days. 5 days of no problems or signs of a problem. We were told that the battery was most likely smoldering from inside within minutes of the initial impact and it smoldered for days before getting hot enough to ignite the vehicle. This was what I'd consider a light to moderate impact. If it wasn't for the bent suspension that Benz could have been driven away from the crash.
People like Uncle Tony or anyone who knows how things work can see through the B.S. Unfortunately the average person today are so dumbed down that even changing wiper blades is a challenge for them.
I helped a friend of mine that has large piece of property in south DeSoto County Florida after Hurricane Ian. The junk yard for all the flooded cars from Charlotte County was a mile or so from his place. Every day we saw fires from the area. He found out later that it was the EVs and hybrids. They stored them in separate areas at least 50 yards apart. Then they quit taking them all together.
That seems to be a thing for garages lately. Insurance is telling them if they have an EV on the lot in for repairs it needs to be so far away from another EV or a structure. This limits the amount of EV work a garage can do and it's making it even harder to get them serviced.
Funny how our little EV apologists are avoiding commenting on this real world evidence. It doesn’t fit their desired narrative so it simply doesn’t exist. Typical Democrats.🙄
He also did a video about how you are screwed if you own an EV and there is possibly a major storm, and the power will be off for an extended period of time.
My local beach has fossilised coral and I live in a valley formed by a glacier 15 k years ago apparently a mile thick. Signs of some pretty extreme climate activity both ways in the past .nothing to do with human activity. So if you want to believe the climate morons go ahead. . We are just a few mites on a dog.
@Ad_Blocker_For_TH-cam Lockheed Martin. Raytheon, BAE, and the French company I can't recall - all huge players in the DEW world. That's most likely why L-M have a large office block in sight of the Pentagon.....not bitching but you are at the very least 20years behind what's happening with DEW's and around 60 years with weather manipulation.
I completely agree, if these places don't trust those vehicles in their shops, why should we trust them in our garages or in a parking structure with other people's vehicles and families. That's not even mentioning the thought of a battery failing and cooking off while their family is inside.
Scotty did a similar video a couple days ago. Apparently all these "Totaled" cars are getting sold overseas for pennies on the dollar and fixed. While Americans get stuck with the bill.
That and extracting another 50 to 100 thousand dollars from every dupe who falls for the meme...plus all applicable taxes of course. This EV fad is difficult to even watch from a distance. It's sad really.
@@daveassanowicz186 There are plenty of cities in which a car is unnecessary. Nobody advocates coercing people to live in suburbs, yet climate fetishists commonly back policies that will force people to buy EVs. Free choice is the only moral and ethical path, and choice isn't free when one technology is subsidized while another is suppressed.
I had a friend who was a big fan of the self driving electric car, and we had this argument that the reason why electric self driving cars needed to replace gas powered cars was because cars you have to drive yourself aren't as safe... and people get into too many accidents. He wouldn't listen to me when I argued against his claim with my experience working on cars. The big issue with these electric vehicles is as Uncle Tony stated, people don't know how to maintain their vehicles, why is it a good idea to give them one that is more dependent on needing maintenance? People do not take care of their cars, and auto makers love to cut corners and take shortcuts, so the chance of having volatile electric car fires in the future is huge.
You ought to show the dunce of a friend you have that self driving promised by that snake oil salesman Musk the one that tried to run over a cyclist and is nowhere near working.
Don't forget software issues. Elon would have us believe they're immune, truth is, they're not. Ever have your laptop, tower, or phone "misbehave"? They're presented as immune also.....
Autopilot on cars relies on absolute EVERY possible situation being mapped out and planned for in advance. Computers can't do what humans can, which is to improvise when they hit unforeseen circumstances. The human may not always be right in those situations, but at least they have a chance. A computer in that situation will just follow it's programming, even if it's painfully obvious that's not the right thing to do. Now, an attentive driver might catch this and intervene, but from what I've seen people doing while going down the road in their "autopilot" cars, I wouldn't bet on it.
Here in Northern California government just began removing four hydroelectric plants while mandating we all go to electric cars but at least the salmon will be able to come farther up the river to spawn
I used to work as an autoparts delivery driver then I changed jobs and worked as an auto transport shuttle driver. I noticed that nobody ever ordered parts for hybrid vehicles (prior to electric vehicles). I commented and asked about this till one of my clients from the shuttle job told me that Hybrids run with a series of batteries and they're wired for 600 volts. The reason that most shops don't service Hybrid vehicles is that in order to get one hybrid vehicle into a shop, the shop has to place safety barriers across the two adjacent bays, the hybrid vehicle takes up three bays. there's one service technician with high voltage safety gear on, while the technician performs the job, another shop technician also wearing protective gear stands there and has to watch the service technician while he's working on disconnecting the batteries. If the technician gets electrocuted, the standby technician has to be able to get the service technician safely out of the vehicle to save his life! Shops lose a lot of money when they have to block two empty service bays and they require the extra manpower just to service one hybrid vehicle. I could assume the same thing would apply to servicing an EV
My car insurance went up $260 this year, I asked why and they said I didn’t have the latest safety equipment, automatic break ing , lane divergence etc, stuff that wasn’t available in 2010
im paying $260/mo for.....middling coverage......it used to be $12x - $13x/mo for BETTER coverage. I had to drop down my coverage or it would have been $4xx/mo!!!!!! For what I used to pay $130 And I have never had any claim in 20+ years with this company.... END THE EV MADNESS!!!! END THE EV MADNESS!!! END THE EV MADNESS!!!
What I find interesting is that wrecked wrote off EVs are ending up in Ukraine and being fixed and put back on the road and Americans and Canadians are getting messages from their old cars. What is really going on because here in Canada people are going back to Ukraine because it's better to live there than here. What's really going on?
The Ukrainians have bigger things to worry about. Evidently someone has figured out how to ship these wrecks over and fix them. Statistically you are safer with an EV. But it can go catastrophic. The odds are with you.
Having worked in multiple gov't settings during my career, I can say the "story line" comes from the top, and it has to do with mandates & goals. The folks on top want numbers they can use to say "we are reaching (or exceeding) our goals". All the agency folks that want to rise have to tow the line and "spin" things to reflect the desires of the top echelon ... The ones who tell the truth no matter what have dead ended their careers 🙃
It’s a shame but most Americans,really citizens of virtually every country,are totally unaware of the deception and corruption that infest our bureaucrats and their power brokers.Our politicians are,in general,simple minded pawns just dancing to the music of powerful interests with complex hidden agendas.
So glad you’re putting this out there. People need to know how dangerous this technology is. By the way, isn’t $61k more than the cost of buying the car new?
I'm in NZ and unfortunately the media and Govt. flunkies here are some of the most corrupt on the planet. We've just had a change of Govt. so there's hope that will change sooner rather than later. Thanks for highlighting this.
@@Longtack55 Just what's needed, another woke greenie who thinks EVs will save us all. And the fire investigator was correct because you say so? Go get another booster, renew your Labour party membership and watch the latest from the WEF.
Seems younow have a neofascist right wing government that has decided that bans on smoking adverts are unfair. What nonsense. This rickety so called government won't last long and sanity will be restored.
@@michaelfasherYep, have noticed that. Thought they might have been game enough to test the waters by now but guess they're still averse/wary as to derogatory comments, as in being taken to task for their past actions.
Happened to one of my neighbors, except it was the battery on a golf cart. Went up while charging in the garage, luckily the fire only destroyed the garage by the time the fire department arrived and put it out.
Batteries are capable of holding a lot of heat - even old lead-acid types typical of cars. A particular system I worked on years ago almost had a fire - I happened to catch high temp condition before anything bad happened as part of regular charger checks [system was always on float]. Shut the system down, came back 45 minutes later, and it was still way too hot to handle.. left another hour and a half and by then it was simply hot.
Mine never caught on fire but one time the charger on one of my drivers never kicked off and the battery pack started to melt and got all distorted. I had to chuck it and get a new one. At the time, it cost around 200 bucks, not cheap. @@ripvanrevs
Yeahhhhhh......i dont even leave my dewalt drill on charge unattended,and if in feeling extra special I run an extension cord outside and charge it out there. If a car battery is dead and needs charging and i cant stick around that goes outside too.
There was a guy in Hamilton, Ontario who bought a used 2017 Ioniq. The Ioniq has an 8yr/160,000 km warranty on the battery and transmission. The battery failed not soon after the odometer passed 160,000 km and the Dealer quoted $50,000 to replace (after charging $500 for a diagnostic!). The customer chose to scrap the car; once the media picked it up, Hyundai Corporate saved face by offering the customer either the market value of the car in cash or as a credit towards another Hyundai. The points that Tony makes about Dealers not stocking batteries I've seen play out as well; there is a guy in Toronto and a guy in Montreal with older Nissan Leafs who need new batteries, and they have been told it could take 1 year or longer to get the replacement.
By the time the fire is to the backyard the whole front is completely gone. That neighbor video shows it started from the car. Some big scam happening, more ev more control and more poor
So why is a dent a problem? They can't create a car that has a space between the battery and the undercarriage? A dent? Wow. I've heard stupid, I've seen stupid. This is just insanity.
I am a mechanical engineer. I do not trust battery charging, any where near a building, I am talking about the batteries off of a petrol/diesel car. I speak from experience on this, a damaged garage, through fire. Good video. Thank you.
I believe it is good to be skeptical. There is a VERY big range of skepticism in people, some spend their whole day in overly dangerous amounts of it. The more varied inputs into one’s education, the better off one is to filter out the things that true, or not… or subtly in between. In my life, I tell people alway to consider your sources!
I heard about the EV fire in NZ. I live a few hours away from where it happened. This has been a fear of mine for quite some time. I have a lot of batteries that I use to operate my cordless tools. They're good, but I ensure I store them properly in a rack on the wall where air flow can get to them. We're coming into summer now and the temperature is rising every week. I live in a modern house and during the summer, my garage (internally) is like a sauna. A concern of mine is charging a car in a hot garage. Im also resistance to buying one as the infrastructure is no where near capable of supporting thousands of EV vehicles here in NZ. Thousands of NZers travel all around the country every holiday period. If you forget to charge your EV and run out of juice, you maybe stuck there for quite a while waiting for a tow truck.
I live in The United States, I dont like EV's personally and would be happy for them to be gone period because driving high powered golf carts is just not my thing, people keep taking about this "infrastructure", well, they will build it ,when cars replaced the horse and buggy we had no "infrastructure" E.g, roads and gasoline stations but they built them so infrastructure is nothing to worry about, we built a atomic bomb in a lot full of weeds that had no infrastructure and all of the sudden it was a bustling city, believe me, with money you can build anything and quickly. My best friend has a EV and his sister lives about 800 miles from him and he visits her 3 times a year or so,when he leaves town he plans his trip and checks for stations on the way (EVs have a nice little computer that tells you everything you need to know including were to pee and find electric juice) and gets there with juice to spare,when the EV mass production starts they will have the infrastructure in place,I'm positive about that. What really interest me and I'm absolutely dying to know is what are the thousand of companies that produce parts and service for ICE cars are going to do? roll over and play dead? spark plugs? coolant? oil? belts? pulleys? combustion heads? valves? driveshafts? dipsticks? bellhousings? clutches? AMOCO? Shell,B.P? i can see the headlines already "sorry we are laying off 75 million people cause now we have Golf carts" ha ha ha ha, i dont think so but i wait with anticipation.
Shop is looking good Tony. Exciting. As for the lying media and officials, nothing new there unfortunately. It’s just getting to the point the regular person who doesn’t follow this stuff is finally starting to see it. Thanks to guys like you. Hopefully with enough people seeing behind the curtain to see what the great Oz for what it really is will hopefully start to change the direction of how things have been going for decades.
100% correct. Over here in England everyone's insurance has gone up. Especially Range Rovers apparently due to "theft" ... nothing to do with the fact that a few of their ev's have gone boom and burned down entire car parks full of cars and main dealerships! Yeah right 🙄
According to the DVLA (The UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency), who should know - unless they are all in on the secret illuminati conspiracy of course, Range Rover models were the second most stolen cars in the UK last year, with more than 5200 (both new and used) taken. If I ran an insurance company I would probably put up the fees for Range Rovers.
@@Jimages_ukEven if that's true (and you being a political zealot calls anything you say into question), ICEs almost always catch on fire because - wait for it - a fault in their ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. Stick that up your a** and smoke it. 🙄
@@chrishill6362 it seems you believe every conspiracy theory out there. The registration of the Range Rover was clear in all the videos, a quick check on the “is my car taxed” database tells me it was not even a hybrid, as others suggested when they realised that Range Rover didn’t make an EV that long ago. You see what you want to see, rather than the truth.
Hey Tony I love your segments , keep up the fantastic info on our great old cars. Having said that I would like to comment on some aspects of this story;- firstly, perhaps Hyundai has not YET gotten around to keeping inventory of these components? I assume they will - soon - and once that is the case the cost will be limited to the battery itself which as you mentioned in the initial story was about $14k or so? You are correct in saying that the risk faced by insurance companies will be spread around ,but once it is $14k and not $60k it will be much less of an effect. Okay, this is not to say that we are 'out of the woods' because all EV's will potentially face the same issues but if the costs of batteries reduces over time, so will the cost impact. Now you failed to mention another cost of these batteries and that is the cost of disposing or recycling them. And you should have mentioned the reason for the replacement in the first place - that the physical damage to the battery case means that there is some increase in the risk of a Runaway event starting in that battery. I think Tesla uses multiple batteries so that way only the damaged section needs to be replaced and if they have not done so, all manufacturers should investigate this as an option. BTW I do not compare EV's to ICE cars because to me the ICE car is like a dolphin while the EV is like a shark - both creatures exist in the same environment but one breathes air (is a mammal) and the other extracts oxygen from the water that passes through it gills (or something to that effect). So, as to EV;'s versus ICE's they both drive on our roads and ride in pneumatic tyres but all the propulsion is different. Take care Tom
I for one do follow this English bloke from down under uncle Tony. He's really active on the issue. Thanks for bringing his profile up here in the channel., 🙏 😊
My opposition to this Insane push to go to EVs started with the fact that our infrastructure is highly unable to handle the requirements to charge these vehicles and then the lying has only gotten worse!
@@jamesvandamme7786 my uncle has for 5 years or so. He has a older 80 mile range Mercedes (forgot the model) he plans on selling his v8 5.0 f150 and getting the f150 ev which has over 200 miles range for the base model and more torque than the v8
Charging won't be a problem for me or the infrastructure, you see i am not one of those long range road warriors. Average round trip 20 miles, long round trip 140 miles. No supercharger needed, just charge at home on the "Off peak" program at night when demand is low, @ 5.8 cents a kw.
Hi from New Zealand with regards to the EV fire here in NZ i believe the initial report in the news was that the EV had been towing a boat and after reaching the holiday home was connected to a charger before the battery had cooled down after the effort of towing the boat.
Regarding optimizing of floor space, have you considered a gallery / 2nd floor ? It doesn't need to be for the heavy stuff, only for lighter bulkier items that take up volume. If the rafters are up to it, they could support / stabalize some of the weight. Some 4 inch steel schedual 40 tubing as pillars on the concrete floor, braced to each other, with triangle bracing bellow the deck so it's free standing, you don't need to relay on the walls for support.
I work on the newest PHEV, BEV and mild hybrid vehicles at a dealer. We replace high voltage components like air condition compressors, coolant cooled battery components, AC cooled battery components, battery cells, electrical brush contacts in the EV motors. The idea that we rid ourselves of the evil ICE and replace with simple battery/electric motor combo because it is simpler is false. The systems are very complex. I question what happens to the used car market 3-4 years from now when off lease cars are available. Who will work on these high voltage units?
EVs have been on the market for over a decade. Nissan leaf which is objectively the worst EV because of lack of active cooling and poor quality batteries came out in late 2010 and most are still on the road
The powers that be want you off the road. They will make automobiles so expensive you won't be able to afford them except for the chosen few. If this is about the environment why was the Nordstrom pipeline blown up?
EVs are getting cheaper with longer ranges and faster charging. The original Nissan Leaf only had a 80 mile range and cost $35k closer to $50k in todays money. You can now buy a f150 EV for the same price with over 200 miles range. $50k is the same price as the 5.0L 4x4 f150
This past week I got a letter from my insurance company stating they were jacking up rates for 2024, essentially for everything under the Sun. Here are their stated reasons, verbatim: "...interest rates, supply-chain issues, labor shortages, persistent inflation, and extreme weather." They got a little more honest with this statement: "Ongoing challenges in the macroeconomic environment are significantly increasing the cost to repair or replace cars and homes...." th-cam.com/users/shortshGLaE5YReD4
Cool. So where's my discount for not using those shops or relying on those supply chains for the most part? My jalopys are certainly not driving up anyone's rates...
you're giving us good information don't stop exposing the evil and the corruption is excellent if others on youtube had info and did the same as you more people would wake up to see the corruption corruption !!!!
hyundi is not the only EV with these issues as for the insurance companies they have received memos from the feds to subsidize EV insurance and were made to sign NDA s . police , emergency services ,towing companies, news agencies etc have all been threatened into signing non disclosure agreements , Many companies have refused too allow the EV's on their property after several explosions and fires ,last week one caught fire on a construction companies property , the fired dept could do nothing so the company used an excavator bury it under a few tons of gravel and sand .
I've read the initial report of FENZ (Fire & Emergency NZ.) The fire started at the rear of the property. The garage is at the front. The Hybrid car was not plugged into a charger. The investigation is ongoing but it is believed from observations the fire cause was not the car or charger. Is that good enough?
No, it's NOT good enough when there is clearly video showing ONLY the car and garage on fire and not even a whisp of smoke from anywhere else on the property.
@@UncleTonysGarage Social media posts and a media outlet then reported a witness as saying the fire had been started by an EV in the home’s garage. But Fire and Emergency NZ investigator Ed Hopping said that was not the case. “The investigation is still ongoing ... but I’m comfortable to put it out there in the world that the fire wasn’t a result of the battery in the car failing,” Hopping said. He said the fire started within the home, while the car was parked outside the garage and was not plugged in for charging at the time. Speculation on the district’s numerous community Facebook groups that it had been caused by an EV charger. Both Fire and Emergency NZ fire investigator Ed Hopping and Cooks Beach Volunteer Fire Brigade chief fire officer Brayden Jack said there was strong evidence to suggest that was not the case.
The car in the NZ house fire was initially described as a Mitsubishi plug-in hybrid. The car in the neighbour's video has what looks like a Mitsubishi logo on the front. It's a bit fuzzy, but you can make it out. And the car was definitely IN the garage. The rest of the house wasn't even on fire while the garage was an inferno. Not much doubt at all that the fire started somewhere in the vicinity of the garage. How that fire investigator can claim that he is comfortable that the car wasn't involved is beyond me.
You weren't there, and you're not an experienced fire inspector. We don't even know which way the wind was blowing but it was probably onshore that time of day, so the fire could have started in front and blown to the back. It takes time to reconstruct what happened, so you can't immediately come up with a conclusion then invent a conspiracy theory to match.
@@davidorr6627 on the left as look at the screen. As the person moves from right to left there are a few frames where you can make out the charging cable connected in amongst the bright orange of the flames
@@angleseyandy9110 It's a bit hard to make out. The side mirror is clearly visible and there is possibly something slightly lower behind it which may be the flap for the charger port. The port on these cars is at the rear in the same position as the petrol cap on the other side. It is quite possible that this car was actually plugged in. No doubt someone in the fire service will have conveniently disconnected it and made it look like it wasn't plugged in.
This kind of behaviour by corporations vs vehicle design safety has been going on for many decades. "Unsafe at any Speed", by Ralph Nader, is an interesting book.
Nader is a hack. He purposely made the Corvair look unsafe. Many cars would've been unsafe with the methods of the tests used. It was purely politically motivated to open Naders entry into politics.
Today, if Ralph Nader were to engage in the same advocacy about the dangers of EV'S as he did in the 1960s pushing for car manufacturers to include seatbelts as standard equipment, crumble zones, and airbags in the 70s and 80s, let's just say there's a good chance he'll be found in his home with a fatal gunshot wound, the deadbolt lock on his front door "inoperable", and the official cause of death a "suicide".
Just yesterday! when driving my 2001 extcab Chevy Silverado 5.3 w/223,469mile's, over the Colorado Rocky Mountains on u.s. HW50 [ which always has small to large boulders on the road ] 1 mile from Salida Co. seen a broken/ most likely Out of Power * $80,000+ * Rivian Electric Truck * on the side of the road,w/ it Pretty Flashing lights with just [ 1 mile ] from a charging station . Oh My gas mileage was 22mpg on a 401mile trip w/ 1/4tank gas left in its 26gal tank . Also noticed a few new looking FORDs broken down as well ! Merry Christmas All.
@@JD-yx7be Ive been using MMO in oll changes and i have no lifter issues as of now. Doesnt burn or leak oil, shifts/drives like a dream . Just reinvested in new wheel hub bearing/bushing/linkages/shocks/ball joints/steering shaft-plasic bearing ass/new windshield/AT3 tires/battery/belts & fuel filter. $4100 . Best money spend .
@@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation The first gens didn't have the lifter issues as it doesn't have the DOD (Displacement on Demand) the newer generations have. Chevy also discontinued the v8 5.3 on the single cabs you can only get a turbo 4 cylinder now
Should get a sponsor and get a car lift to stack the cars on out of the way, make tons of space in a small shop plus make it easier to work on the underside too.
ICE cars catch fire 10x more frequently than equivalent number of E.Vs. Those are facts.
The statistics are skewed, BUT, I'll give you that one. Now, how bout the fact that battery fires are AT LEAST 10x more intense than gasoline fires, and take FAR MORE than 10x the effort and material needed to extinguish them.
Might want to include that ICE car fires are almost always started in their electrical system, the fuel rarely involved, as opposed to EV fires which are always 100% electrical, and nearly always completely spontaneous.
Facts!
The leading cause of death, is birth...there's a statistic for your intellect.😂😂 and it sounds less pretentious and more true.
@@UncleTonysGarage Also a lot of ICE fires are arson, in the UK that's one of the major causes.
Let’s see your source.You must compare apples and apples.Show me your data for spontaneous combustion in the two vehicles.This comparison has to be adjusted for miles traveled,passenger cars only,and spontaneous versus collision.Without this you’ll have a skewing of results
The fires per type are not the first issue of this video. The well founded and expensive fear that the car dealerships have for these monstrosities is. Lithium is death, not just for countries that dig it up, but also for countries foolish enough to think that EV is even practical. The only reason it floats today is by pressure from governments who represent fanatics.
After covid we should remember the depths of the dishonesty and protect our families.
It's getting worse
I simply don't believe anything the government tells us. In fact, the exact opposite is usually closer to the truth. The MSM is just as bad too.
People forget fast
Lost 18 friends to covid, they never got the shot here in Florida
@@dogsense3773 Did not happen 😂
@@dogsense3773sure
The real conspiracy theorists are the idiots that believe " the government cares about me and the media would never lie to me".
They will FALL
Most people are well aware that the media is corrupt and most media outlets are in bed with the leftists.
Well, that`s racist. Or antisemetic.
remember ethanol? nothing they said was true, it's just a boondoogle
They are followers - not leaders. They are never prepared for disasters and stand in line for 4 hours to get a FEMA cooky when bad weather hits...
Not just damage from road obstacles, what about deterioration from things like road salt in salt states?
The great salt pimp of the north east will dine on them
That's been happening here since the time cars were 1st driving on pavement
@@michaelnieman6218 salt and electricity don't mix well, bit different to rust problem's.
The batteries are fully sealed, cheaper ones like Tesla glue them shut.
@@hugegamer5988 That's kind of analogous to snorkel kits for ICE-powered vehicles, and it makes sense. No battery will behave well if you short the terminals together. EVs and hybrids both have numerous small cells, all cross-connected. With that many terminals and connections, if you don't hermetically seal it against liquid/salt, those batteries are absolutely going to short out, superheat and catch fire. I once accidentally shorted a 12v car battery with a breaker bar and it burned up it about 5 seconds. EVs are nothing new in that regard.
MGuy is not “over the top”. He’s a realist.
and people dont realize he's an actual engineer with 20 years of professional experience. He knows what he's talking about instead of a typical youtube rant.
No one who didn't get the covid jab regrets it. No one who didn't buy an EV regrets it.
Yes! 😃
T-shirt idea!
Yep didn’t cave to the pressure for the jab didn’t cave to the pressure for an electric car won’t cave to the pressure for other lunacy that the government governments around the world come up with freedom is awesome
I don't regret not getting the jab. I would not not mind owning an EV, however.
@@PETERJOHN101 Um, read what I wrote one more time, slowly. You just agreed with what I said. Derp...
I work as a fraud Investigator for a Canadian insurance company. I deal with engineers and EV fires. They can take hours to extinguish, and can easily reignite. Some F150 lightnings have been spontaneously combusting
A whole new meaning to the badge lightning, huh
The F150 Lighting is switching from NCM batteries to LFP batteries for 2025 model year. LFP has a much lower internal impedance so far less chance of thermal runaway
@@JD-yx7bewhoa! Its all ok then! Were saved haha
Oh you are the guys who will pay $60 a day for storage but not $60.03/day or your taking my boss to court lol. Knew a guy who owned another company, he got sued over a tow bill. Bill was like $800. Insurance sued because they didn’t like the rates and storage and dragged it out over months and eventually settled for like 3x the original bill. Poor customers car sat in the towing yard not getting fixed the whole time. I get it that the pirate companies in Toronto are greasy, but a couple insurance companies expect us to roll out a $200,000 truck that’s burning $1.80/L diesel with a driver making $30/hr to do a recovery with an hour of cleanup 200km away for $100 😂
To be fare F150s have had spontaneous fires way before the lightning EV.
Just watched a video in Australia, about 2 cement trucks burning or exploding .
They were new EV and burned on a highway and was a safety hazard with all the chemicals going into the air.the man posting the video was a fireman. And he was mad because the news did not tell it was
a EV.
That fireman will be glad to know that he won't have to worry anymore because the robots will put out the fires and clean it up.
Those are sort of DIY conversions. Kenworth T410 Gliders converted to electric by Janus.
Only heard of one burning.
There was only One that burned on the highway - just, just out of a major road tunnel that has tankers aren't allowed through - the second one got thermal runaway in testing
@@richy69ify#j.anus
Insurance companies should refuse to insure cars with these known issues.
They just pass the cost on to us real men
The gubmint probably pushes them to insure ev crap......
I am beyond amazed insurance companies haven't clamped down on how many very high horsepower cars are being sold. They did it in the 1970's. We are at a point the amount of speed and power available can't be justified for a road going car. Yet on the flipside if you want to buy a small economical car you can't do it because the rules forbid it.
Electric bicycle shops are having problems getting business insurance renewed, due to fire risk.
Due to battery chemistry. But that is changing. Some cell phones catch fire but I bet you still own one!@@scrappy7571
Why would a fire official lie about a fire? IT'S A CULT!
Small correction, the $61,000 bill also covered the install. If I remember correctly, the battery cost was around $56,000, so the owners insurance company wrote-off the one year old vehicle.
If you watched the 2nd MotorMouth follow up and Ionic guy on TH-cam they corrected there statements saying that the cooling system was damaged as well as other items. That’s part of the the added costs.
The great EV hoax !
The corruption is stagering
China is behind that!
I’m from Australia. I’ve watched the video you’ve spoken about. It really is interesting how the EV is being denied for the cause of fire.
Thankfully I’m from Australia too.
Nz
I can't speak to individual cases but several insurance companies have shown the risk of fire is many times higher with gas and diesel vehicles than battery ones. Add to that fuel storage for lawn mowers and such being another high risk.
Vehicle fires. With more than 90% being combustion engines I would be worried if they weren’t.
So how many ships have sunk due to ev SO FAR
@@rayfisher2454 the percentage doesn't matrer as the odds are calculated on per 100k figures. EV'S are proven many times less likely to catch on fire with their volatile fuels. How many ships caught fire do to fuel issues, answer is many more than from batteries. People need to use some common sense. Considering Sodium Ion batteries will soon replace Lithium Ion batteriea and its as simple as removing one battery with the other. Battery technology will change many times over time but they will remain recyclable and able to charge many cycles while burning fuel allows you to only get one use out of it. Most people, about 90% can easily use the curent distance EV'S provide as most people travel less than 50 miles a week.
Another informative video. Tony. I drive a 30-year-old Saturn SL2 and a 35-year-old 88 Ford Ranger. At 73 years old properly maintained. Both these vehicles will ask me the rest of my life. Upside? Great vacations! Lots of toys and don't worry about getting from place to place. Downside, my friends all tease me about my old cars and being cheap. I don't think being smart is being cheap.
Absolutely nothing wrong with this. I'm on the same boat. I own a '98 grand prix & a '96 S10 pick up. While they both we neglected used vehicles prior to my ownership, I repaired both engines for under $700/each. Which both are rumming like a top. My wife owns a '09 Corolla since new which now has over 205k on the clock. Maintenance is the key word here & the car has been paid off several years ago. All three vehicles are servicing their purpose and is saving us money in the long run because we don't have a expensive $600 (or more)/month car payments.
Which let's us to pay off our home faster or allow us to buy things that we want (IE: vacation trips, home renovations, etc)
Being savvy and resourceful is not being cheap but being smart with your hard earn money is how you go about using it!
No, this is more like "because i am doing it smartly, it gets
cheap" 😊
In my humble opinion this is what saves the planet. Not constantly upgrading and using resources. I just turned 50 in 2023. I have never owned a new vehicle. I always bought used and kept maintenance up, mostly done myself. In fact the message I am typing now is on a 2018 model phone. Still works, no need to upgrade yet.
All I do are old cars man.
My newest car is a 2006 Cadillac DTS....a 1999 Escalade is my daily driver.
Nice thing about being a mechanic is that you have the entire field of vehicles, that everyone gets rid of...dirt cheap.
77 Toyota Hylux.....$200.00 pervious owner had a $800.00 rebuilt engin installed,
still smoked!
2 tickets, of $150.00 each
pulled off valve cover, started engin, sprayed over head cam with WD 40
Smoked like a WW2 destroyer in a John Wayne movie.
Replace the valve steams seals
2.00 each × 8 $16.00 replace Head gasket $25.00
That's 7 years ago.
Daily driver.
1960 Ford...F100 4x4... Free
4 flat tires,
Lady husband died in 2002 and sat on property, gave it to another gentleman, but couldn't afford new tires for it. That's in 2012, I asked about it for sale, and I am thinking $1000.00 She said if you can get it out of here in an hr, it's yours for free!
No problem, ask her what type of beer does she drinks, she sai, Rainier. (Oregon finest😂)
Put new battery in it, pulled the plugs, put in first gear, using my starter switch walk it up on the car carrier in 20 min,
Sat and finish off that 6 pak, She ask me where you from boy? I said right her in Oregon, I've never seen that done before! Using your starter switch to wallk a truck up on a car carrier. 😊Went back to the store, bought another case for her, $14.50
Done a tune-up, total $60.00 for plugs points, condenser, 2 plug wires, fule filter, pulled the gas tank, 1 bottle of dawn dish soap, .89 1 bag of marbles. $1.00 Rattle the crap out of the gas tank, Flush 3 times,1 case of Rainier beer $14.00
total time 1 day,
Drove truck 2 miles to the mail box,
Replace all lubricants in Axels repack bearings in the 4x4 unit, change oil, new filter
1 more case of Rainier beer,
Total time 2 days 6 cases of beer...cost less than$1000.00 including 4 American Trk tires all weather mud and snow, 1 sweet sweet sweet grany low 4x4 all American truck.😂
After Hurricane Ian in 2022, EV’s that were flooded with sea water started auto-igniting and the fires spread to many other vehicles. It was so bad of a situation that the EV’s had to separated by 100 ft from any other vehicle.
No government bailouts for companies doing stupid stuff.
I live in the UK and my home insurance doubled. I've cancelled it because I just can't afford it. This is a very troubling trend. Glad you're on the ball Tony, keep up the great work.
I'm in Florida USA and am having to replace my 16 year old roof to be able to get home insurance. The roof is a bit worn, but has never leaked and the roofers said it has at least a few years of good use left, but I have to replace it to find anyone to insure it. Hurricane insurance here also has a high deductible (2%-10% of the home value so even on a small home it can be $5-$25,000 US). Costs have doubled for many. Of course, we've had a lot of hurricanes recently and building material costs have risen, which explains a lot of it, but my home is inland and on high ground without any claims from many past hurricanes over its 50+ year history. It's a cement block home with a concrete slab foundation, so it's not going anywhere. I'm considering self insuring it and putting the premiums in a savings account in case I ever have damage instead of paying them and still being on the hook for 99% of potential claims (aside from it being obliterated). If I were on the coast it might be different, but inland we rarely see more than category 1 winds which is not a major issue.
@@mikelemoine4267 Insurance companies always make money. When they see where they are not they raise the rates or increase deductibles.
Same deal in Canada, no mortgage no home insurance.
@@wyllie4961 I've considered pulling funds from savings to pay mine off so I can drop it. I can buy a liability policy for $550 USD a year. I don't owe a ton on it and it's a rental, so I'd be able to take the rental income that currently pays the mortgage and put it into other investments and the insurance portion of the rent and put it into a storm fund. Still thinking it through....
@@mikelemoine4267 Good plan now implement it and err on the conservative side with your replacement cost estimates. Not only will you be standing up on your own two feet as a responsible member of your community, you will also, with a bit of luck, be building a fat retirement for yourself at the same time. Kudos!
Almost nobody had property insurance in Florida prior to 50 years ago yet somehow they managed to thrive and build out a fantastic state in spite of nasty storms undoubtedly warned about to every newcomer from every person who had lived there for a couple of decades. Make sure to let the prospective new neighbor know what they can expect in the coming decades. Sooner or later it will happen.
At present you will NEVER see anything negative reported concerning an EV, there is just to big to fail to push behind these train wrecks.
You must not live near detroit. EV issues are on the news often enough. Same as EV plant issues.
Sorry, Live in Seneca County, Ohio, which is about 50 miles from Toledo. Most of the news reporting is centered around not EVs and the issues but around jobs and the impact on the UAW. So I simply IGNORE the reporting as they ARE covering up the issues. Around here I believe I have seen ONE Tesla and several other EV's, all with out-of-county registration stickers and unfamiliar car dealer, way outside the county, identifications attached. Oh, by the way, there is absolutely NO Public charge station in the County.@@joshuabaker5712
@@joshuabaker5712We are all moving to Detroit!!
Now that Musk is being accused of anti- ism there are many hit pieces about Tesla's and EV's. Toyota RAV 4 Prime weighs 4,300 lbs. Model Y, 4500. How many articles do you see about Rav 4 being tough on tires?
@@JetFire9 I escaped from Detroit,. You can have it!
Reminds me of when the _Freemantle Highway_ caught fire. They fire officials claimed that no EVs were involved, that all the EVs on board survived...and yet, there's video from CCTV aboard the ship of burned EVs, and when they started unloading, more EVs - some burned to a crisp, others still just starting to go into thermal runaway were caught by the camera. They've been caught lying multiple times now, but until there's a consequence for this dishonesty, it will continue.
Ships have a 'very' complex liability structure. The final settlement can take years and have more to do with lawyers than truth.
Thank Biden !!!!!
Have you seen the maritime insurance industries reaction to that fire? And KXY (I think) who are one of the largest vehicle shipping lines out of Korea have issued a statement about the future options for moving EV's. Likewise the Australian maritime authorities - nothing implicated yet but both a direct result for the MV F H
@@CosmicSeeker69 You are right it is a 'reaction'. We were recently show when 1000s of damaged EVs are totaled in the US the shipped to Ukraine where they are repaired and resold. It would seem shipping 1000s of greatly damaged EVs should be burning lots of ships. Maybe the people with problems shipping EVs need to talk to the people who ships wrecks.
We need truth not biased hysteria.
@@garyalford9394 Biden?
I manage a towing and recovery business in Missouri. On October 11th we were called to a 2 vehicle accident in town. The crash involved a Ford Fusion and a Mercedes EQS suv. The Fusion received damage in the front end and the Mercedes received damage to the drivers side rear door and rear wheel. Both vehicles were undrivable and required to be towed away. We took both to our storage lot to await insurance company instructions. On October 16th at 1:40 am we got an alarm call from county fire about a fire at our lot. I appears that the Mercedes caught fire and it had spread to 9 other vehicles. It took FD over 4 hour to extinguish the fire. They had us drag the SUV out of the lot because they told us it could reignite even hours later. That Mercedes sat in our lot for 5 days. 5 days of no problems or signs of a problem. We were told that the battery was most likely smoldering from inside within minutes of the initial impact and it smoldered for days before getting hot enough to ignite the vehicle. This was what I'd consider a light to moderate impact. If it wasn't for the bent suspension that Benz could have been driven away from the crash.
Well done, explaining the truth comes quite naturally to you, a breath of fresh air. I’m now a subscriber.
People like Uncle Tony or anyone who knows how things work can see through the B.S. Unfortunately the average person today are so dumbed down that even changing wiper blades is a challenge for them.
I helped a friend of mine that has large piece of property in south DeSoto County Florida after Hurricane Ian. The junk yard for all the flooded cars from Charlotte County was a mile or so from his place. Every day we saw fires from the area. He found out later that it was the EVs and hybrids. They stored them in separate areas at least 50 yards apart. Then they quit taking them all together.
I’m a refugee from hurricane Ian, Punta Gorda, and can confirm that! 😊
Gee, electricity and salt water don’t play well together! Go figure.
That seems to be a thing for garages lately. Insurance is telling them if they have an EV on the lot in for repairs it needs to be so far away from another EV or a structure. This limits the amount of EV work a garage can do and it's making it even harder to get them serviced.
Funny how our little EV apologists are avoiding commenting on this real world evidence. It doesn’t fit their desired narrative so it simply doesn’t exist. Typical Democrats.🙄
Do you want your ICE car sitting in a service center parking lot waiting for repair next to an EV.?
Stay rural.
Stay self employed
Keep your eyes open
Harder for other people to rule you
Only for us that have the abilities to do so. Most folks can’t.
Lying happens alot more... any time there are government grants, subsidies or credits to abuse.
Ain't that the truth. The old government gravy train roaring into life.
The government would never lie 😅. They are stand up citizens till there magical bag of money appears on the side.
@@Ayn-Rand-Is-Dead of course they do but they cannot appropriate money from the citizens by force.
And just imagine the price of electricity when the electric company's monopolize it.....
He also did a video about how you are screwed if you own an EV and there is possibly a major storm, and the power will be off for an extended period of time.
YOU would be screwed. Mine charges with my solar system.
@rjampiolo32 hope the sun is always shining directly on your panels
Fuck your crappy solar panels.
MGUY is well worth watching on a regular basis.
oh dear (that you actually believe that)@@Ayn-Rand-Is-Dead
My local beach has fossilised coral and I live in a valley formed by a glacier 15 k years ago apparently a mile thick. Signs of some pretty extreme climate activity both ways in the past .nothing to do with human activity. So if you want to believe the climate morons go ahead. .
We are just a few mites on a dog.
@@Ad_Blocker_For_TH-cam climate change is real. Whether or not man caused it or can change it, I’m still not convinced.
@@JadeOthen-b8q100%
@Ad_Blocker_For_TH-cam Lockheed Martin. Raytheon, BAE, and the French company I can't recall - all huge players in the DEW world. That's most likely why L-M have a large office block in sight of the Pentagon.....not bitching but you are at the very least 20years behind what's happening with DEW's and around 60 years with weather manipulation.
I completely agree, if these places don't trust those vehicles in their shops, why should we trust them in our garages or in a parking structure with other people's vehicles and families. That's not even mentioning the thought of a battery failing and cooking off while their family is inside.
Scotty did a similar video a couple days ago. Apparently all these "Totaled" cars are getting sold overseas for pennies on the dollar and fixed. While Americans get stuck with the bill.
Overseas are buying them for the correct value. Americans are just stealing from other Americans
They probably will not replace the battery that has a dent and sell them anyway!!!!!
We should protect this channel at all costs
EV's are not about "saving the planet." They are about limiting your ability to travel. Think about it.
That and extracting another 50 to 100 thousand dollars from every dupe who falls for the meme...plus all applicable taxes of course. This EV fad is difficult to even watch from a distance. It's sad really.
Building places that you need a car to survive is control. Think about it
@@daveassanowicz186 There are plenty of cities in which a car is unnecessary. Nobody advocates coercing people to live in suburbs, yet climate fetishists commonly back policies that will force people to buy EVs. Free choice is the only moral and ethical path, and choice isn't free when one technology is subsidized while another is suppressed.
And tracking
Agree. Abolition of individual Mobility is the End-Game (15 Min Cities /open air Prisons )
New Feudalism, yea !
It may be unhealthy that i get so much joy from EV stories!
You and me both!
I had a friend who was a big fan of the self driving electric car, and we had this argument that the reason why electric self driving cars needed to replace gas powered cars was because cars you have to drive yourself aren't as safe... and people get into too many accidents.
He wouldn't listen to me when I argued against his claim with my experience working on cars. The big issue with these electric vehicles is as Uncle Tony stated, people don't know how to maintain their vehicles, why is it a good idea to give them one that is more dependent on needing maintenance? People do not take care of their cars, and auto makers love to cut corners and take shortcuts, so the chance of having volatile electric car fires in the future is huge.
Also if cars are driving themselves it’s less likely to feel a suspension or chassis issue that may cause an accident..
You ought to show the dunce of a friend you have that self driving promised by that snake oil salesman Musk the one that tried to run over a cyclist and is nowhere near working.
Don't forget software issues.
Elon would have us believe they're immune, truth is, they're not.
Ever have your laptop, tower, or phone "misbehave"? They're presented as immune also.....
Let your internet cut out mid drive in auto drive.....
Autopilot on cars relies on absolute EVERY possible situation being mapped out and planned for in advance. Computers can't do what humans can, which is to improvise when they hit unforeseen circumstances. The human may not always be right in those situations, but at least they have a chance. A computer in that situation will just follow it's programming, even if it's painfully obvious that's not the right thing to do. Now, an attentive driver might catch this and intervene, but from what I've seen people doing while going down the road in their "autopilot" cars, I wouldn't bet on it.
Thanks Tony for helping to call these evil people out.
Here in Northern California government just began removing four hydroelectric plants while mandating we all go to electric cars but at least the salmon will be able to come farther up the river to spawn
The video of that car in China that was charging and decided to identify as a Rocket was Heartwarming.
I used to work as an autoparts delivery driver then I changed jobs and worked as an auto transport shuttle driver. I noticed that nobody ever ordered parts for hybrid vehicles (prior to electric vehicles). I commented and asked about this till one of my clients from the shuttle job told me that Hybrids run with a series of batteries and they're wired for 600 volts. The reason that most shops don't service Hybrid vehicles is that in order to get one hybrid vehicle into a shop, the shop has to place safety barriers across the two adjacent bays, the hybrid vehicle takes up three bays. there's one service technician with high voltage safety gear on, while the technician performs the job, another shop technician also wearing protective gear stands there and has to watch the service technician while he's working on disconnecting the batteries. If the technician gets electrocuted, the standby technician has to be able to get the service technician safely out of the vehicle to save his life! Shops lose a lot of money when they have to block two empty service bays and they require the extra manpower just to service one hybrid vehicle. I could assume the same thing would apply to servicing an EV
My car insurance went up $260 this year, I asked why and they said I didn’t have the latest safety equipment, automatic break ing , lane divergence etc, stuff that wasn’t available in 2010
I pay $29 a month😂
Tell them f off
im paying $260/mo for.....middling coverage......it used to be $12x - $13x/mo for BETTER coverage. I had to drop down my coverage or it would have been $4xx/mo!!!!!!
For what I used to pay $130
And I have never had any claim in 20+ years with this company....
END THE EV MADNESS!!!!
END THE EV MADNESS!!!
END THE EV MADNESS!!!
With a car as old as a 2010 you should, if you haven't done it already, be dropping all coverages other than liability.
For the truck I pay 180 for 6 months. For the bike it's 70 a year. For the jeep? 130 a month. Please someone steal it and total it
Totally agree I believe the truth is being covered up to protect this push towards electric vehicles.
The solution is to have insurance companies be required to have coverage pools for EVs be separate from those for ICE vehicles.
Hopefully this video will save a life from these rolling arc furnaces.
I love the EV insanity. Must be insane to buy one
Some people want to be right so bad, they cover their eyes to anything that goes against their narrative.
I think eventually Car Insurance companies will start to refuse EV vehicles. Insurance
Too expensive, dangerous, no charging stations, and on and on! I'd never own one!
What I find interesting is that wrecked wrote off EVs are ending up in Ukraine and being fixed and put back on the road and Americans and Canadians are getting messages from their old cars. What is really going on because here in Canada people are going back to Ukraine because it's better to live there than here.
What's really going on?
Ukraine is an extremely corrupt country, Canada is run by Fidel's son
Somebody's been watching Scotty Kilmer😂😂
The Ukrainians have bigger things to worry about. Evidently someone has figured out how to ship these wrecks over and fix them. Statistically you are safer with an EV. But it can go catastrophic. The odds are with you.
Having worked in multiple gov't settings during my career, I can say the "story line" comes from the top, and it has to do with mandates & goals. The folks on top want numbers they can use to say "we are reaching (or exceeding) our goals". All the agency folks that want to rise have to tow the line and "spin" things to reflect the desires of the top echelon ... The ones who tell the truth no matter what have dead ended their careers 🙃
*Toe the line
@matthewronson5218
I only "toe my own line" and give the "boot" to all of the others!!...😅
It’s a shame but most Americans,really citizens of virtually every country,are totally unaware of the deception and corruption that infest our bureaucrats and their power brokers.Our politicians are,in general,simple minded pawns just dancing to the music of powerful interests with complex hidden agendas.
We need brave people in these agencies and organizations to coordinate, organize, get active and whistleblow.
Sounds similar to CCP China’s “Great Leap Forward”.
I hit something on the road, punched a small hole in the gas tank. New tank $100. Did not rase anyone's insurance rates
ALL EV's pose a significant fire danger until the cells are neutralized. You'll never see old beater EV's on the roads.
So glad you’re putting this out there. People need to know how dangerous this technology is. By the way, isn’t $61k more than the cost of buying the car new?
I'm in NZ and unfortunately the media and Govt. flunkies here are some of the most corrupt on the planet. We've just had a change of Govt. so there's hope that will change sooner rather than later. Thanks for highlighting this.
I'm in NZ also. Whatever fits your narrative - until it doesn't then you'll complain (again.)
The Fire Investigator was correct.
@@Longtack55 Just what's needed, another woke greenie who thinks EVs will save us all. And the fire investigator was correct because you say so? Go get another booster, renew your Labour party membership and watch the latest from the WEF.
Seems younow have a neofascist right wing government that has decided that bans on smoking adverts are unfair. What nonsense. This rickety so called government won't last long and sanity will be restored.
As a New Zealander I concur. The New Zealand media channels have the comments turned off if you noticed.
@@michaelfasherYep, have noticed that. Thought they might have been game enough to test the waters by now but guess they're still averse/wary as to derogatory comments, as in being taken to task for their past actions.
Happened to one of my neighbors, except it was the battery on a golf cart. Went up while charging in the garage, luckily the fire only destroyed the garage by the time the fire department arrived and put it out.
Batteries are capable of holding a lot of heat - even old lead-acid types typical of cars. A particular system I worked on years ago almost had a fire - I happened to catch high temp condition before anything bad happened as part of regular charger checks [system was always on float]. Shut the system down, came back 45 minutes later, and it was still way too hot to handle.. left another hour and a half and by then it was simply hot.
@@flinch622 Yup, lead acid batteries for solar system & golf carts sometimes release hydrogen gas while charging that can catch fire.
My battery powered drills have NEVER caught on fire! Why can't they just put like 2000 of those in a car?
Mine never caught on fire but one time the charger on one of my drivers never kicked off and the battery pack started to melt and got all distorted. I had to chuck it and get a new one. At the time, it cost around 200 bucks, not cheap. @@ripvanrevs
Yeahhhhhh......i dont even leave my dewalt drill on charge unattended,and if in feeling extra special I run an extension cord outside and charge it out there.
If a car battery is dead and needs charging and i cant stick around that goes outside too.
Glad to see the shop taking shape UT, I can see good things coming your way, you deserve it.
The current Hyundai EV's look like they were hit with an ugly stick! Simply terrible
Just think of all the upheaval on the roads if everyone owned an EV?
That was $61,000 CAD. But the cost of a new Ioniq is $55,000 CAD???
There was a guy in Hamilton, Ontario who bought a used 2017 Ioniq. The Ioniq has an 8yr/160,000 km warranty on the battery and transmission. The battery failed not soon after the odometer passed 160,000 km and the Dealer quoted $50,000 to replace (after charging $500 for a diagnostic!).
The customer chose to scrap the car; once the media picked it up, Hyundai Corporate saved face by offering the customer either the market value of the car in cash or as a credit towards another Hyundai.
The points that Tony makes about Dealers not stocking batteries I've seen play out as well; there is a guy in Toronto and a guy in Montreal with older Nissan Leafs who need new batteries, and they have been told it could take 1 year or longer to get the replacement.
The way they build new cars it's cheaper to replace a whole car than to replace a part!
Thanks be to the tax-payers for their generous non-voluntary contributions to ending the mid-life crisis' of American men.
@@Deploraclethe EV isn't the midlife crisis, the mustang was...
@Cerium398 they're simply throw away cars, but too expensive.
I dont think you're a conspiracy theorist, Tony. I think you're spot on!
CONSPIRACY....FACT..
They happen all the time!
Spoiler Alertist is more accurate.
Right wing, is right thinking. Conspiracy theorist is now just a medal of truth. Thank you, great staight forward video
Wrong,. He is a conspiracy theorist making things up without proper evidence.
By the time the fire is to the backyard the whole front is completely gone. That neighbor video shows it started from the car.
Some big scam happening, more ev more control and more poor
Automotive technology peaked about 1972 with the Chrysler slant six, Torqueflight transmission and the Plymouth Valiant. Prove me wrong.
In Germany and EU they call the cimate EV Transformation La Schlaboubve or Die Schlabubvvo ..
All you need to know about this subject is Klaus Schwab.
If the dealership doesn't want to tough it there's a serious problem here! Great video as always 👍
People really need to get their heads out of the sand and listen to these. Uncle Tony only speaks facts
So why is a dent a problem? They can't create a car that has a space between the battery and the undercarriage? A dent? Wow. I've heard stupid, I've seen stupid. This is just insanity.
I am a mechanical engineer. I do not trust battery charging, any where near a building, I am talking about the batteries off of a petrol/diesel car. I speak from experience on this, a damaged garage, through fire. Good video. Thank you.
And the electric Ionic will be in the Ukraine in 5 months totally rebuilt. Right about the insurance scam.
They will just pound out the dent and fill with bondo LOL
I believe it is good to be skeptical. There is a VERY big range of skepticism in people, some spend their whole day in overly dangerous amounts of it. The more varied inputs into one’s education, the better off one is to filter out the things that true, or not… or subtly in between. In my life, I tell people alway to consider your sources!
I heard about the EV fire in NZ. I live a few hours away from where it happened. This has been a fear of mine for quite some time. I have a lot of batteries that I use to operate my cordless tools. They're good, but I ensure I store them properly in a rack on the wall where air flow can get to them. We're coming into summer now and the temperature is rising every week. I live in a modern house and during the summer, my garage (internally) is like a sauna. A concern of mine is charging a car in a hot garage. Im also resistance to buying one as the infrastructure is no where near capable of supporting thousands of EV vehicles here in NZ. Thousands of NZers travel all around the country every holiday period. If you forget to charge your EV and run out of juice, you maybe stuck there for quite a while waiting for a tow truck.
I live in The United States, I dont like EV's personally and would be happy for them to be gone period because driving high powered golf carts is just not my thing, people keep taking about this "infrastructure", well, they will build it ,when cars replaced the horse and buggy we had no "infrastructure" E.g, roads and gasoline stations but they built them so infrastructure is nothing to worry about, we built a atomic bomb in a lot full of weeds that had no infrastructure and all of the sudden it was a bustling city, believe me, with money you can build anything and quickly.
My best friend has a EV and his sister lives about 800 miles from him and he visits her 3 times a year or so,when he leaves town he plans his trip and checks for stations on the way (EVs have a nice little computer that tells you everything you need to know including were to pee and find electric juice) and gets there with juice to spare,when the EV mass production starts they will have the infrastructure in place,I'm positive about that.
What really interest me and I'm absolutely dying to know is what are the thousand of companies that produce parts and service for ICE cars are going to do? roll over and play dead? spark plugs? coolant? oil? belts? pulleys? combustion heads? valves? driveshafts? dipsticks? bellhousings? clutches? AMOCO? Shell,B.P? i can see the headlines already "sorry we are laying off 75 million people cause now we have Golf carts" ha ha ha ha, i dont think so but i wait with anticipation.
Turns out it's a dealer scam.
There's a reason insurance companies are heavily ramping up premiums. (Mine tried to increase mine by 68% this year...)
Yeah joebiden
Shop is looking good Tony. Exciting. As for the lying media and officials, nothing new there unfortunately. It’s just getting to the point the regular person who doesn’t follow this stuff is finally starting to see it. Thanks to guys like you. Hopefully with enough people seeing behind the curtain to see what the great Oz for what it really is will hopefully start to change the direction of how things have been going for decades.
Get off my yellow brick road old man! 😂
100% correct.
Over here in England everyone's insurance has gone up. Especially Range Rovers apparently due to "theft"
... nothing to do with the fact that a few of their ev's have gone boom and burned down entire car parks full of cars and main dealerships! Yeah right 🙄
According to the DVLA (The UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency), who should know - unless they are all in on the secret illuminati conspiracy of course, Range Rover models were the second most stolen cars in the UK last year, with more than 5200 (both new and used) taken. If I ran an insurance company I would probably put up the fees for Range Rovers.
Even though it was an ICE car that caused the fire, but don’t let the truth get in the away of a good story matey
@@Jimages_ukEven if that's true (and you being a political zealot calls anything you say into question), ICEs almost always catch on fire because - wait for it - a fault in their ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. Stick that up your a** and smoke it. 🙄
You believe everything the press tells you? 🤣🤣
@@chrishill6362 it seems you believe every conspiracy theory out there. The registration of the Range Rover was clear in all the videos, a quick check on the “is my car taxed” database tells me it was not even a hybrid, as others suggested when they realised that Range Rover didn’t make an EV that long ago. You see what you want to see, rather than the truth.
Hey Tony I love your segments , keep up the fantastic info on our great old cars. Having said that I would like to comment on some aspects of this story;- firstly, perhaps Hyundai has not YET gotten around to keeping inventory of these components? I assume they will - soon - and once that is the case the cost will be limited to the battery itself which as you mentioned in the initial story was about $14k or so? You are correct in saying that the risk faced by insurance companies will be spread around ,but once it is $14k and not $60k it will be much less of an effect. Okay, this is not to say that we are 'out of the woods' because all EV's will potentially face the same issues but if the costs of batteries reduces over time, so will the cost impact.
Now you failed to mention another cost of these batteries and that is the cost of disposing or recycling them. And you should have mentioned the reason for the replacement in the first place - that the physical damage to the battery case means that there is some increase in the risk of a Runaway event starting in that battery. I think Tesla uses multiple batteries so that way only the damaged section needs to be replaced and if they have not done so, all manufacturers should investigate this as an option.
BTW I do not compare EV's to ICE cars because to me the ICE car is like a dolphin while the EV is like a shark - both creatures exist in the same environment but one breathes air (is a mammal) and the other extracts oxygen from the water that passes through it gills (or something to that effect). So, as to EV;'s versus ICE's they both drive on our roads and ride in pneumatic tyres but all the propulsion is different.
Take care
Tom
I predict that the EV industry will be going Tits Up in this year or maybe next. But at this rate I see it coming in 2024.
I live an hour away from Cooks Beach. Facebook were reporting an EV fire from the neighbours within half an hour of the fire starting.
I for one do follow this English bloke from down under uncle Tony. He's really active on the issue. Thanks for bringing his profile up here in the channel., 🙏 😊
My opposition to this Insane push to go to EVs started with the fact that our infrastructure is highly unable to handle the requirements to charge these vehicles and then the lying has only gotten worse!
Do you know anybody who drives an EV? How has their experience been?
@@jamesvandamme7786 my uncle has for 5 years or so. He has a older 80 mile range Mercedes (forgot the model) he plans on selling his v8 5.0 f150 and getting the f150 ev which has over 200 miles range for the base model and more torque than the v8
Charging won't be a problem for me or the infrastructure, you see i am not one of those long range road warriors. Average round trip 20 miles, long round trip 140 miles. No supercharger needed, just charge at home on the "Off peak" program at night when demand is low, @ 5.8 cents a kw.
Hi from New Zealand with regards to the EV fire here in NZ i believe the initial report in the news was that the EV had been towing a boat and after reaching the holiday home was connected to a charger before the battery had cooled down after the effort of towing the boat.
Regarding optimizing of floor space, have you considered a gallery / 2nd floor ? It doesn't need to be for the heavy stuff, only for lighter bulkier items that take up volume. If the rafters are up to it, they could support / stabalize some of the weight. Some 4 inch steel schedual 40 tubing as pillars on the concrete floor, braced to each other, with triangle bracing bellow the deck so it's free standing, you don't need to relay on the walls for support.
I work on the newest PHEV, BEV and mild hybrid vehicles at a dealer. We replace high voltage components like air condition compressors, coolant cooled battery components, AC cooled battery components, battery cells, electrical brush contacts in the EV motors.
The idea that we rid ourselves of the evil ICE and replace with simple battery/electric motor combo because it is simpler is false. The systems are very complex.
I question what happens to the used car market 3-4 years from now when off lease cars are available.
Who will work on these high voltage units?
EVs have been on the market for over a decade. Nissan leaf which is objectively the worst EV because of lack of active cooling and poor quality batteries came out in late 2010 and most are still on the road
The powers that be want you off the road. They will make automobiles so expensive you won't be able to afford them except for the chosen few. If this is about the environment why was the Nordstrom pipeline blown up?
Where are all the alternative buses, rail, and high speed trains? In China, of course.
EVs are getting cheaper with longer ranges and faster charging. The original Nissan Leaf only had a 80 mile range and cost $35k closer to $50k in todays money. You can now buy a f150 EV for the same price with over 200 miles range. $50k is the same price as the 5.0L 4x4 f150
I totally agree that this ev stuff has gone to far and is a huge problem
This past week I got a letter from my insurance company stating they were jacking up rates for 2024, essentially for everything under the Sun. Here are their stated reasons, verbatim: "...interest rates, supply-chain issues, labor shortages, persistent inflation, and extreme weather." They got a little more honest with this statement: "Ongoing challenges in the macroeconomic environment are significantly increasing the cost to repair or replace cars and homes...." th-cam.com/users/shortshGLaE5YReD4
They had to throw in extreme weather (code word for climate change)AAAAAHHHHHHHH!
My is going up 10$.. I dont drive that much!! No reason...
Cool. So where's my discount for not using those shops or relying on those supply chains for the most part? My jalopys are certainly not driving up anyone's rates...
Actually, there kind of is a discount. My 84 and 74 both cost about half of what it takes to insure the 2001 and 2004 they replace
@@michaelking550someone needs to fund their employee salary increase
electric cars on ferries are a DANGER TO LIFE
“Insurance companies don’t party”. That killed me!!😂
Makes you wonder about EV off road vehicles. Extra ground clearance won’t be enough to protect the battery pack from damage
They don't want you off road
TOO HEAVY FOR OFF ROAD!!! ALMOST TOO HEAVY FOR ON ROAD!!!
@@johncameron6415
Gotta protect the tulips 🤦
@@ssnerd583 lighter than a 3/4 ton diesel
Will chargers be installed off road to charge them? How long will an EV drive in rough off road conditions and how will it get back?
I wouldn't call him "Anti-EV", I would call him "BEV-Realist".... 🙂(MGuy)
you're giving us good information don't stop exposing the evil and the corruption is excellent if others on youtube had info and did the same as you more people would wake up to see the corruption corruption !!!!
hyundi is not the only EV with these issues as for the insurance companies they have received memos from the feds to subsidize EV insurance and were made to sign NDA s . police , emergency services ,towing companies, news agencies etc have all been threatened into signing non disclosure agreements , Many companies have refused too allow the EV's on their property after several explosions and fires ,last week one caught fire on a construction companies property , the fired dept could do nothing so the company used an excavator bury it under a few tons of gravel and sand .
I've read the initial report of FENZ (Fire & Emergency NZ.)
The fire started at the rear of the property.
The garage is at the front.
The Hybrid car was not plugged into a charger.
The investigation is ongoing but it is believed from observations the fire cause was not the car or charger.
Is that good enough?
No, it's NOT good enough when there is clearly video showing ONLY the car and garage on fire and not even a whisp of smoke from anywhere else on the property.
@@UncleTonysGarage Social media posts and a media outlet then reported a witness as saying the fire had been started by an EV in the home’s garage.
But Fire and Emergency NZ investigator Ed Hopping said that was not the case.
“The investigation is still ongoing ... but I’m comfortable to put it out there in the world that the fire wasn’t a result of the battery in the car failing,” Hopping said.
He said the fire started within the home, while the car was parked outside the garage and was not plugged in for charging at the time.
Speculation on the district’s numerous community Facebook groups that it had been caused by an EV charger.
Both Fire and Emergency NZ fire investigator Ed Hopping and Cooks Beach Volunteer Fire Brigade chief fire officer Brayden Jack said there was strong evidence to suggest that was not the case.
What part of "There is actual video showing ONLY the car and garage on fire" are you having a problem understanding. Would it help if I typed slower?
George Carlin told us this 20 yrs ago: "It's a big club and you're not in it".
🎉 And like cell phones it will go up in price every year.
Already heard that multi-storey parking garages are erecting signs refusing entry to EV"s.
They're adding charging stations in parking garages in Albany NY
The car in the NZ house fire was initially described as a Mitsubishi plug-in hybrid. The car in the neighbour's video has what looks like a Mitsubishi logo on the front. It's a bit fuzzy, but you can make it out. And the car was definitely IN the garage. The rest of the house wasn't even on fire while the garage was an inferno. Not much doubt at all that the fire started somewhere in the vicinity of the garage. How that fire investigator can claim that he is comfortable that the car wasn't involved is beyond me.
You weren't there, and you're not an experienced fire inspector. We don't even know which way the wind was blowing but it was probably onshore that time of day, so the fire could have started in front and blown to the back. It takes time to reconstruct what happened, so you can't immediately come up with a conclusion then invent a conspiracy theory to match.
In that video you can even see the car is still plugged in to the charger
@@angleseyandy9110 I didn't see the charger. Which side of the car was it on?
@@davidorr6627 on the left as look at the screen. As the person moves from right to left there are a few frames where you can make out the charging cable connected in amongst the bright orange of the flames
@@angleseyandy9110 It's a bit hard to make out. The side mirror is clearly visible and there is possibly something slightly lower behind it which may be the flap for the charger port. The port on these cars is at the rear in the same position as the petrol cap on the other side. It is quite possible that this car was actually plugged in. No doubt someone in the fire service will have conveniently disconnected it and made it look like it wasn't plugged in.
Insurance rates are going through the roof. It's already happening.
61000? Not even if it was in yen.
This kind of behaviour by corporations vs vehicle design safety has been going on for many decades. "Unsafe at any Speed", by Ralph Nader, is an interesting book.
"Unsafe" was also a total LIE. Any car of the day would have failed the way the "tests" were done.
@@barto6577 Today, Ralph would be telling lies about EVs.
Nader is a hack. He purposely made the Corvair look unsafe. Many cars would've been unsafe with the methods of the tests used.
It was purely politically motivated to open Naders entry into politics.
Today, if Ralph Nader were to engage in the same advocacy about the dangers of EV'S as he did in the 1960s pushing for car manufacturers to include seatbelts as standard equipment, crumble zones, and airbags in the 70s and 80s, let's just say there's a good chance he'll be found in his home with a fatal gunshot wound, the deadbolt lock on his front door "inoperable", and the official cause of death a "suicide".
Ralph Nader was full of crap then and full of crap now.
Just yesterday! when driving my 2001 extcab Chevy Silverado 5.3 w/223,469mile's, over the Colorado Rocky Mountains on u.s. HW50 [ which always has small to large boulders on the road ] 1 mile from Salida Co. seen a broken/ most likely Out of Power * $80,000+ * Rivian Electric Truck * on the side of the road,w/ it Pretty Flashing lights with just [ 1 mile ] from a charging station . Oh My gas mileage was 22mpg on a 401mile trip w/ 1/4tank gas left in its 26gal tank . Also noticed a few new looking FORDs broken down as well ! Merry Christmas All.
newer 5.3 have lifter problems and they got worse on each generation
@@JD-yx7be Ive been using MMO in oll changes and i have no lifter issues as of now. Doesnt burn or leak oil, shifts/drives like a dream . Just reinvested in new wheel hub bearing/bushing/linkages/shocks/ball joints/steering shaft-plasic bearing ass/new windshield/AT3 tires/battery/belts & fuel filter. $4100 . Best money spend .
@@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation The first gens didn't have the lifter issues as it doesn't have the DOD (Displacement on Demand) the newer generations have. Chevy also discontinued the v8 5.3 on the single cabs you can only get a turbo 4 cylinder now
@@JD-yx7be Yes ! i cant stand DODs or these displays etc needless stuff ! Thanks for comments .
Should get a sponsor and get a car lift to stack the cars on out of the way, make tons of space in a small shop plus make it easier to work on the underside too.
Thanks for The good work from NY. Good luck with the new shop.
Keep doing the good work Uncle Tony. Love the channel.