Fully agree, stock for stock in Australia, the n400 is a better bike, having come from a ninja 400 to a cbr650r makes me apprecite how good the ninja actually is for a beginner. Derestricted is a whole other thing though.
Pretty much the same points were used when i bought my cbr500r over the cbr650r, im glad i did it and managed to use that bike to its full capacity for the most part.
yooo thanks for covering up and answering the questions i had about it. Idk if you remember me but i was the one who asked if the 650r was better than the 400 as a starter bike and would like to thank you for making the video on it :) I might start with the 400 or the r3 as a starter bike instead. I really love them both so just struggling with which i'd prefer. Love your content man and can't wait for future uploads
@hkmax721 Yeah I heard that's a great bike too but I think I'm more of a yamaha and kawi guy so I'll get either the r3 or 400 still, although I do think the cfmoto450 is great too!
I remember, glad it was helpful! The 400 is slightly better if you have the budget, but can't go wrong with either. Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate your support!
When I first got my license back in 2010/11 I got a Yammie R15. Wrote that off and didnt ride for a good 6 years. Got my L's again and bought a Ducati 659 in 2018 and was like wtf have I done? Big regrets. Thing was SO heavy compared to my R15, and whilst the power was fun once I got used to it, it was still nothing spectacular even tho its a 600cc bike. I got my fulls and sold the Duke. Stopped riding for 4ish years until recently where I bought an 14' R6. I now tell my mates to start on a 300/400cc. Great mix of comfortability, learnability and power. No need for a bigger learner CC bike because reality is, its still a nugget in comparison to a non-restricted 600cc + bike, and not ideal to learn your roadcraft on that early on, that and the cost of the bigger LAMs bikes are a joke when you compare to non-LAMs.
So while the Ninja 400 is a great beginner bike, make no mistake, it's not just for beginners. I own a ZX6R, VFR 800 Interceptor, both of them will blow the 400 out of the water, but the 400 is the most comfortable of the three and has more than enough power to get you in trouble and find my self riding this machine the most.
SO TRUE, I have a CBR600 & CBR650, however I just bought the new Ninja 500 because its way more comfortable and much easier to flick around in the twisties, In my opinion its more fun to ride a slower bike fast!!!
I prefer the weight and stability of the bigger bikes, the 250 - 400 bikes feel too light in gusty winds on the hwy - hence why I jumped from a ninja 250 to a GSX650F
would you still recommend the 400 for beginners that are out in the country? im from gippsland and am bent between the 400 and 650 as a first bike just because majority of my rides will be highway riding and am worried about being blown away lol although the low speed maneuvers with the 400 sound infinitely better which will probably help with passing my P's
@@gutterrashrides yeah true true, I just realized that the ninja 500 is coming out in march and might just get that considering its basically the same as the 400 just with a little extra torque, and the fact that secondhand ninja 400s are going at the same price as what the 500 is said to be at...
@GutterRash Riders I have a Honda500f and am thinking of replacing it with a Ninja 650 or CBR650r. Which motorcycle do you think is better? In your opinion, is the cbr650r better than the ninja650 for the city and short trips?
Fully agree, stock for stock in Australia, the n400 is a better bike, having come from a ninja 400 to a cbr650r makes me apprecite how good the ninja actually is for a beginner. Derestricted is a whole other thing though.
Yep same, my apppreciation for the N400 went right up after I bought my 650R haha
Pretty much the same points were used when i bought my cbr500r over the cbr650r, im glad i did it and managed to use that bike to its full capacity for the most part.
But it's kinda the same thing tho, the cbr500r is only marginally more powerfull than the ninja 400 but weighs a bit more
yooo thanks for covering up and answering the questions i had about it. Idk if you remember me but i was the one who asked if the 650r was better than the 400 as a starter bike and would like to thank you for making the video on it :) I might start with the 400 or the r3 as a starter bike instead. I really love them both so just struggling with which i'd prefer. Love your content man and can't wait for future uploads
get a cfmoto 450sr. I love mine. haha
hows the swingarm on those? as I've heard some things about it@@hkmax721
@hkmax721 Yeah I heard that's a great bike too but I think I'm more of a yamaha and kawi guy so I'll get either the r3 or 400 still, although I do think the cfmoto450 is great too!
I remember, glad it was helpful! The 400 is slightly better if you have the budget, but can't go wrong with either.
Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate your support!
Thanks man! This was very informative!
Just picked up mine today. 🎉🎉🎉
When I first got my license back in 2010/11 I got a Yammie R15. Wrote that off and didnt ride for a good 6 years. Got my L's again and bought a Ducati 659 in 2018 and was like wtf have I done? Big regrets. Thing was SO heavy compared to my R15, and whilst the power was fun once I got used to it, it was still nothing spectacular even tho its a 600cc bike. I got my fulls and sold the Duke. Stopped riding for 4ish years until recently where I bought an 14' R6. I now tell my mates to start on a 300/400cc. Great mix of comfortability, learnability and power. No need for a bigger learner CC bike because reality is, its still a nugget in comparison to a non-restricted 600cc + bike, and not ideal to learn your roadcraft on that early on, that and the cost of the bigger LAMs bikes are a joke when you compare to non-LAMs.
So while the Ninja 400 is a great beginner bike, make no mistake, it's not just for beginners.
I own a ZX6R, VFR 800 Interceptor, both of them will blow the 400 out of the water, but the 400 is the most comfortable of the three and has more than enough power to get you in trouble and find my self riding this machine the most.
SO TRUE, I have a CBR600 & CBR650, however I just bought the new Ninja 500 because its way more comfortable and much easier to flick around in the twisties, In my opinion its more fun to ride a slower bike fast!!!
I prefer the weight and stability of the bigger bikes, the 250 - 400 bikes feel too light in gusty winds on the hwy - hence why I jumped from a ninja 250 to a GSX650F
I feel ya, my latest vid addresses this about the 650r
I think dealing with that weight while your still getting experience is a good thing though. Will prepare you better for litre bikes
Ooooof, shots fired.
But the right amount of bikes is N+1.
would you still recommend the 400 for beginners that are out in the country? im from gippsland and am bent between the 400 and 650 as a first bike just because majority of my rides will be highway riding and am worried about being blown away lol although the low speed maneuvers with the 400 sound infinitely better which will probably help with passing my P's
I still reckon the 400 is the way to go if you're brand new to riding - can easily sell it and upgrade once you're ready to move up
@@gutterrashrides yeah true true, I just realized that the ninja 500 is coming out in march and might just get that considering its basically the same as the 400 just with a little extra torque, and the fact that secondhand ninja 400s are going at the same price as what the 500 is said to be at...
Great content 👌🏽
Thank you!
@GutterRash Riders I have a Honda500f and am thinking of replacing it with a Ninja 650 or CBR650r. Which motorcycle do you think is better? In your opinion, is the cbr650r better than the ninja650 for the city and short trips?
Ninja 650 would be more comfortable/practical but cbr has more power and is more fun in my opinion
Great information. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Do they come governed in the states?
I don't think they come restricted in the states
or you start on a 1000 like a real man
Can't start on 1000cc as a learner rider in Melbourne, Australia
@@ayhosay oh police state, sorry to hear
unfortunately, any pro rider will disagree with that
Make sure to put me as your beneficiary 😂
Just gonna hope this is sattire 😆
Cfmoto 500sr inline 4 is better than both of Japanese brand
Dun dun dun dun