Yep nope someday you will learn, just like I did, flex isn't everything. Something just beautiful about how a decently tuned droop setup performs. The floppy flex extension just doesn't do it. Might as well not even have shocks. Pen springs under shock piston, and light spring on the outside. Or skip the pens. You ever just go to a hardware store and look through the drawers of springs? I can find any spring, any size, any compression strength.
Very true. I just did a warthog scx24 build using stock shocks and it's my best performer. Just amazing. I like the articulation for the fun factor, but for my real performance focused rigs I don't go to that extreme.
I know I'm considered old school at this point but if I recall from my original AX10 and XR10 days a crazy amount of flex is not everything nor desired.
I guess its ok, im more into the scale aspect of it not belly draggin comp crawlers. I got a trx4m k10 hightrail. Took some stickers off. Threw some injora shafts, crawl gears,hobby park shocks no springs and a couple drops of 20wt to lube the pistons and the injora servo with mount. Looks like a real k10 on a 6 inch lift. Im looking for a decent deckover be it bumper pull or modified 5th wheel for it.
Im new to the hobby and just did my first mod to my trx4m high trail edition f-150...... went with a brass injora steering link bar and got some injora beadlocks with some super sticky swamp claw tires..... it's great really added some weight to the truck! What shocks would you recommend??
I finally after 2 months ran this same set up broke 3 carbon fiber frames at the 2ed shock mount on the lowest setting from injro and Amazon next thing is straight titanium
Is that the best shock placement for the grasshopper chasis if not can you make a video on what you recommend 👍🏻 I’m trying to go low stance but can’t figure a way around it
Love this build! But I do have a genuine question/concern though. Does this much flex (especially considering there is no compression or damping to speak of) ever force the rig into a wierd bind that just works itself into a worse bind when trying to work your way out ?
@@CapeCrawlers eeek typo in my post. Anyway you got the sense that I liked the video! I add an ARB to the back of any trucks that have extreme articulation, seems to help 😎👍🍺🇬🇧
Not a lot of Traxxas left on that thing. Looks sick though. :D I know how that goes. I just built myself an "SCX24". It has a total of three Axial parts on it. Rear body mount and the gears in the rear axle. Eveything else is non-Axial. Is it even an SCX24 at that point? :p
Shock absorbers dampen the rebound from the springs. If you have no springs at all the shocks serve no purpose. Why do you have them on? That link in between the shock and axle is also useless.
They are still oil filled, which provides some dampening. But they're basically dual limiting straps. The link between the shock and axle gives it more drop but also allows the back end to sit lower because it positions the shock behind the axle.
My limit seems to be that the front upper links hit/interfere with the steering servo when at full droop compared to the rear droop. Do you see any hitting or interference on the front upper links? I'm running the same shocks as you as well.
They are flex extensions. You can get them here: www.etsy.com/listing/1370068004/trx-4m-defender-and-bronco-118-scale?click_key=3afc1cc20ac5fb38f2d4e70c8968c952c33f0ba8%3A1370068004&click_sum=6b95e85a&ref=shop_home_recs_1&crt=1&sts=1
I got a question. I got 59mm shocks from Injuro hoping to get a similar setup as yours. but Im running no springs on the shocks so when I compress the socks, they don't go back to full extension, I have to forcibly do it myself. I notice that your shocks are moving freely, any tips?
They make a huge difference. But it flexed hard without them. The Losi shocks are long, 62mm I think, so they made a big improvement as well. The combination is crazy
@@CapeCrawlers I've been trying desperately to find ways to make an RC crawler bounce and move in the same manner that the real vehicles do. That's what interests me so much about them, is recreating that realest on a scale level. So this gives me some ideas. Thanks for posting it.
Flexy and loose, just how I like em' LOL I know what you mean though. I used the shock preload spacers in the rear of my sons Defender for that same reason.
There are two kinds of people: people who wish the stock springs were stiffer, and people who wish the stock springs were softer
So true, for my scx24
And me 😂
It really just depends on what type of crawling your doing :)
No springs is funny to me... I would never do flex plates either but whatever
Me:sees first glance -something ain’t right
Yep nope someday you will learn, just like I did, flex isn't everything. Something just beautiful about how a decently tuned droop setup performs.
The floppy flex extension just doesn't do it. Might as well not even have shocks.
Pen springs under shock piston, and light spring on the outside. Or skip the pens. You ever just go to a hardware store and look through the drawers of springs? I can find any spring, any size, any compression strength.
Very true. I just did a warthog scx24 build using stock shocks and it's my best performer. Just amazing. I like the articulation for the fun factor, but for my real performance focused rigs I don't go to that extreme.
I know I'm considered old school at this point but if I recall from my original AX10 and XR10 days a crazy amount of flex is not everything nor desired.
I’m not even worried about the shocks but the winch and frame is crazy 🤯
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Sick build. I plan on doing a TRX4M drift build when my lhs restocks.
Awesome!
Drift build?
Video or it never happened...
I guess its ok, im more into the scale aspect of it not belly draggin comp crawlers. I got a trx4m k10 hightrail. Took some stickers off. Threw some injora shafts, crawl gears,hobby park shocks no springs and a couple drops of 20wt to lube the pistons and the injora servo with mount. Looks like a real k10 on a 6 inch lift. Im looking for a decent deckover be it bumper pull or modified 5th wheel for it.
Does the body mount in the same way as it would stock?
Yes it does because it maintains the stock bumpers and mounts.
Very cool crawler ❤the vids!
This is the kit for crawling! Keep up the good work ❤ love it
That’s clean.
Im new to the hobby and just did my first mod to my trx4m high trail edition f-150...... went with a brass injora steering link bar and got some injora beadlocks with some super sticky swamp claw tires..... it's great really added some weight to the truck! What shocks would you recommend??
Sweet. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome build! What’s the link for the same plastic shocks ?
Right here: amzn.to/3IHZ141
I love RC 😢
Cool
I finally after 2 months ran this same set up broke 3 carbon fiber frames at the 2ed shock mount on the lowest setting from injro and Amazon next thing is straight titanium
Oh man I wanna see that thing side hill or do any incline over 50°, thing has got to be lifting like nuts 😁
Is that the best shock placement for the grasshopper chasis if not can you make a video on what you recommend 👍🏻 I’m trying to go low stance but can’t figure a way around it
Do a hightrail build
Wow it’s so nice
The commander has to be jealous.🙏💪
Great 👍
Let's see it in action
Nice bronco
What flex blades do you use?
love it! at what point is it no longer a trx4m, but rather a custom buggy with a traxxas shell?
I think it’s pretty much there. I think the only Traxxas component left is the battery tray, drive shafts, and axle housings
Parts list?
Love this build! But I do have a genuine question/concern though. Does this much flex (especially considering there is no compression or damping to speak of) ever force the rig into a wierd bind that just works itself into a worse bind when trying to work your way out ?
I don't feel like it does. It's surprisingly composed on the rocks
@@CapeCrawlers thanks for the reply!
Don't you find it rolls over too easily now, my crawlers always need a bit less flex than I could add... nice to seeninnovtthough 👍🍺🇬🇧
With the width I added and all the weight it’s pretty planted. But yes, sometimes less flex is better!
@@CapeCrawlers eeek typo in my post. Anyway you got the sense that I liked the video! I add an ARB to the back of any trucks that have extreme articulation, seems to help 😎👍🍺🇬🇧
Do you even need shocks at this point 😅😊😂😂. Nice setup as always
Just some limiting straps so my axles dont fall off LOL
I run no springs on my rigs
Is there a way to make the trx 4m wider?
Yes. Injora just recently released some +4mm axles. Meus racing also has hex extensions and wider axle assemblies as well
@@CapeCrawlers thanks
Not a lot of Traxxas left on that thing. Looks sick though. :D
I know how that goes. I just built myself an "SCX24". It has a total of three Axial parts on it. Rear body mount and the gears in the rear axle. Eveything else is non-Axial. Is it even an SCX24 at that point? :p
So true. There’s only 3 traxxas parts left I think!
Shock absorbers dampen the rebound from the springs. If you have no springs at all the shocks serve no purpose. Why do you have them on? That link in between the shock and axle is also useless.
They are still oil filled, which provides some dampening. But they're basically dual limiting straps. The link between the shock and axle gives it more drop but also allows the back end to sit lower because it positions the shock behind the axle.
What's the carbon fiber chassis called. Is it injura?
Furitek grasshopper
Great info Adam , cool short!
My limit seems to be that the front upper links hit/interfere with the steering servo when at full droop compared to the rear droop. Do you see any hitting or interference on the front upper links? I'm running the same shocks as you as well.
You're exactly right. I haven't found a way around this though.
I wonder what the rear axle shocks are fixed to.. Where can I buy them?
They are flex extensions. You can get them here: www.etsy.com/listing/1370068004/trx-4m-defender-and-bronco-118-scale?click_key=3afc1cc20ac5fb38f2d4e70c8968c952c33f0ba8%3A1370068004&click_sum=6b95e85a&ref=shop_home_recs_1&crt=1&sts=1
I got a question. I got 59mm shocks from Injuro hoping to get a similar setup as yours. but Im running no springs on the shocks so when I compress the socks, they don't go back to full extension, I have to forcibly do it myself. I notice that your shocks are moving freely, any tips?
You can try adding more oil to the shock to give it some damping/rebound
Shocks look like they are falling apart 😂
It is super floppy
How d you got the aluminium servo mount on the aluminium axles?
Had to muscle it in. Pinch the axle portion together enough to get the servo mount into place
Is the mini-t and mini-b the same thing, because I’m trying to search for the suspension. But it only shows mini-t.
In the description of the shocks it references both for fitment, so I believe they are the same.
Roughly what was thw overall price for your setup??? I love this style and look to build one.
Yes, I got them on Amazon for ~$20 a pair.
@@CapeCrawlershe ment build cost total. Also what I'm wondering.
same here im now curious i'll b getting my first trx 4m
Those flex extensions make most of the flex huh? Nice
They make a huge difference. But it flexed hard without them. The Losi shocks are long, 62mm I think, so they made a big improvement as well. The combination is crazy
@@CapeCrawlers ok thanks for the info
Who is the maker on those frame rails?
Furitek
@@CapeCrawlers thank you
Flex plates is all just for looks, once you take them out and test them you'll realize what a mistake you've made
Does your bronco tend to lean to one side after flex blades ?
Yes, they amplify the torque twist
What’s the link for the flex extensions?
www.etsy.com/listing/1370068004/trx-4m-defender-and-bronco-118-scale?click_key=2851585722a5c16c76659ca9bb851261da76d5f2%3A1370068004&click_sum=b66e782f&ref=shop_home_recs_23&crt=1&sts=1
Did you try the pink mini t springs or do mini t springs not fit?
I did not! Mini T should fit. Are those super soft springs?
@@CapeCrawlers the softest.
What chassis is that?
Furitek grasshopper
How much has this thing cost total now?
Oh gosh, probably ~$800
So removing oil is essentially giving you a similar effect of adding body weight?
Yes, kind of. It allows them to sit nice and low but still retain some dampening.
@@CapeCrawlers I've been trying desperately to find ways to make an RC crawler bounce and move in the same manner that the real vehicles do.
That's what interests me so much about them, is recreating that realest on a scale level.
So this gives me some ideas. Thanks for posting it.
What kind of servo is that?
It's the NSDRC RS100
Do the driveshafts not pop out?
Not while driving. If I hold it up like this and pull down on the axle it will pop out, but I have not lost a driveshaft when driving it.
I can’t get mine to be soft enough how the firc do you get them that soft I have barely any oil in it and it’s still not soft enough
The weight from the wheels helps pull them down. They're pretty sticky otherwise.
Ok thx
How do you get all the flex without your driveshafts falling off?
Limiting straps. Here’s what I use for a setup: th-cam.com/users/shorts2cFlJfdcZj8?feature=share I do the same for the trx4m
@@CapeCrawlers how can I do it for the back?
How many drops
3-5 I think? I can't remember exactly, but it wasn't much.
Link please ? 😊
For the shocks? Here they are: amzn.to/3DsDo4d
@@CapeCrawlers Yes ! Thanks you !
What servo do you run?
I switch it around but it's currently running the Poorboys RC servo. I like the Injora 11kg servo also
Thank you!
Lol im sure this stuff performs well .. but it looks broke. 😂😅😂
So loosy goosy. I have been trying hard to get my shocks stiffer so my defenders butt doesn't sag
Flexy and loose, just how I like em' LOL I know what you mean though. I used the shock preload spacers in the rear of my sons Defender for that same reason.
Can I get a link for the shocks. Am I hearing low c mini shocks?
Well at least what else is left of it..
I ended up moving this onto my comp setup and went back to the stock shocks on this chassis for a more scale build
At this point just use shoe strings
Would do the same thing pretty much!
@@CapeCrawlers let's see it for the luls hahaha
Looks like it just flops around
It's better when it's planted on the ground, but it is still pretty floppy.
Until it unloads climbing
It's pretty planted. The chassis allows me to mount these to where unloading doesnt seem to impact it much.
overdone
Holy not stock
It escalated quickly!
That thing must head chop going uphill with no springs. This is a dumb idea for climbing. Maybe flatland.
It would surprise you I bet. It climbs really well. Obviously it could be better with a spring setup, but for my driving style this is just right.