Hey man just wanted to let you know as an equipment hauler that I run into that problem a lot but a lot of times you can just put the links through the hole (fold chain in half ) & connect the hook to the other side to the chain & works perfectly fine that way you not having to mess with Carter pins
You win today!!! I’ve never seen or thought of that, but it makes perfect sense. Thank you for the info and teaching me something new today, I’m going to try that next round! 👍
Awesome just trying to help out love the content man I watch you all tow piglet ,hotshot haulers , hotshot adventures ,hotshot Dave haulin cash ect... trying to get out there myself hopefully next year
I remember the first time I picked up one of those small loaders. I would have never thought it was that easy to chain down. Couldn't find the tie downs to save my life at first. Wish you made this video years ago lol. But hey, we all learn everyday right?
As a heavy equipment hauler I would recommend backing the machine on because there's alot of air drag with the bucket facing towards the front. Not sure if you locked the middle but DOT is hard on us about not securing (red locking bar on the driver side that secures the equipment from articulating) all machines that articulate in the middle.
I couldn’t put it on backwards due to the weight distribution. I have to haul the majority of it on the trailer axles. The bucket isn’t dragging much. I’m over 600 miles in with 10.6 mpg. Yes the lock pin is in and I do realize that I forgot to mention that in the video. Check Instagram 👍👍
The easiest means of getting through those tie-downs is to use very short (1-2') of chain with one chain hook. Hook the short chain to itself, hook the transport chain to its tail. They really come in handy for plenty of other things which don't have good tie-down points, and don't weigh much or take much space. They're also a source of spare hooks in case one needs replacement on the normal transport chains.
For pulling the cotter pins out - use a pair of dikes. You grab the cotter pin just behind the 'head' and lever the dikes on the pin. Will pull the cotter pin through easy, even when the cotter pin is mangled up. Thanks for the video. I'm looking to swap from straps to chains and you gave me some ideas/techniques.
Good video. You put out good content. DOT would say you need a strap or chain at mid span where machine articulates. Any articulating equipment needs securement at articulation point.
i keep a set (4 lengths of chain) of chains with only one hook on one side for these situations. realistically the only time i use both chain hooks is when im using a single length of chain as "two" chains, such as the center tie down spot on a boom lift.
Load Mizer, to add to the folding your chains to reduce the headache of messing with hooks, have you looked into the synthetic shackles, they have a WWL of 8,000 lbs each, light weight and don't take up space, also, the red pin under the cab of the loader, does the law require you to lock out the loader from potential oscillation? Any how. Hope 2021 is a profitable one for you.
Yessir and I really wish I would have included that in this video. Any articulated vehicle has to be locked out during transport. DOT loves writing those violations up. I’ve honestly never looked into the synthetic shackles, I’ll check that out!!
My opinion is that the mid series style trucks like that are too much for Hotshot freight and not enough for semi freight. Especially at the price point. For that price and maintenance standpoint you might as well just get a semi.
I used to use clevis loops if that’s what you’re talking about. Some people call them a D ring. I was just showing guys how to chain it up without any other equipment besides a chain.
Is there hook on both ends of the chain? I ask because if is just one side, you could've just threaded the chain ⛓ from the none hook side Yes or No. Thanks again for your knowledge and willingness to teach yourself and us.
That was one of the best things about flatbed. I us to load all my own Equipment . Just for the fun of it. It only got hailing when I pulled a tank once. That they wouldn’t let me drive. Lol
Is there a reason why it’s loaded forward facing instead of towards the rear? It seems it would have more drag that way (forwards) I mean if the weight distribution allows.
It was because of weight. If I would’ve loaded it backwards too much weight would’ve been past the trailer axles. I hated hauling stuff that far back on that trailer. Was like a diving board.
I typically would but there was too much in the way to cross chain the front and in the rear the position of the attachment point would’ve had my chains up agains the diff if I crossed them. Most of the time I try to cross chain though 👍
Yessir, those are also called D rings and clevises. You can absolutely use them and they’re basically the best option in my opinion. Just make sure the WLL on them are sufficient.
Hey Driver Did you have to place cover over the exhaust pipe to prevent it from starting up on you on while driving ? Seen channels where they mention to do that. Just curious if you did or not
You cover the exhaust to prevent the turbo spooling with no oil pressure and to keep rain out. I’ve never heard of one starting. If the exhaust is facing forward I cover it. It’s facing to the rear though on this one it’s fine. No worries of rain or air getting in. 👍
@@martygoble2652 yeah we do the same thing down here. I buy a 20ft chain with hooks, grab the dewalt hand grinder and cut out link in middle and bam you got 2x chains for the price of one and we don't mess with cotter pins. Heck I would probably loose the case of cotter pins ;)
Can you please take the time to explain why are you parked it at that position on your trailer. Not right over both axles and not all the way in the front either.
You have to distribute the weight accordingly. I can have almost 9k on my truck axle and 20k on my trailer axles. This loader weighs 13,100. Most of the weight is going to be where the engine is which is in the rear on this loader. So I make sure the majority of the weight is on the trailer axles. When I scaled I was 7800 on the truck and 17900 on the trailer.
That would have been cool if you turned it around might have gotten a tad better fuel mileage. I bet that bucket caught some wind! New subscriber love your videos man
Hey brother, Great Vid! I’m just getting into the HS box, got 20yrs CDL driving exp. Got a couple questions. 1) would the bucket be too far back (hanging off) if you’d turned it around? 2) what size and how long are your chains, how many do you keep on the truck?
4 CHAINS!! lol my former boss showed me the easy quick way of the 2 chain method, but this was the same loader all day. Hell some days we didn't even use a chain if the run was short enough...im talkin 5-10 minutes down the road, damn thing never moved lol. This was with a lowbed truck though, way more stable on a LowBoy break-away deck.
All jokes and fun aside this channel gives me a lot of inspiration/information on hotshot since all I know is big truck. Thanks for being a source of info 🤘🤘🤘 Not that I was joking about using two chains lol it was done in a way that did the job of 4 chains lol still used 4 binders regardless
I was taught that my equipment that articulates to use the mechanical lock so it can articulate. Don’t think it’s a law but something I just do EDIT. Noticed it was brought up, sorry
I believe the chains are to far out? The way you have it there and I see a lot of it, don’t mean anything against you, just that when you’re that far out, all it’s doing is keeping the tractor from moving forward and backward, not really holding it down. You don’t need much pulling forward and backwards, just enough to keep it from rocking, if you would’ve came in one more pocket, it would serve the purpose of what you intended and holding it down better. If it’s not held down, bouncing on these nice roads we have these days May break a chain. another suggestion is if your chain is long enough, use one chain in the rear and 2 binders. Run the chain across to the other side and up to tractor then secure the way you did with the binders. The chain won’t hurt that tire, if anything help secure the backwards and forward motion should you have to panic stop. Be Safe, Take Care!!
They don’t have to. Most crossed chains are only put on that way because of an obstruction. The only absolute for a cross chain was a coil loaded shotgun. I’ve heard they did away with that too though, not 100% there I haven’t hauled a shotgun coil in years.
Chains are not supposed to be criss crossed, what poor advice, unless like he stated....not enough room or something else is in the way. The way he did it is the best way to tie down most loads. He has the four required tie down points at approximately 45 degree with a ratchet binder. I'm sure the chains are the required min grade 43 rated at 5,000lbs or higher for each corner.
You made one mistake here. Since this in an articulating piece of equipment, you need to have chains on each side of the equipment in the middle to prevent articulation. Its a federal law. Not trying to be that guy but its in the book.
Instead of taking cotter pins out of the hooks you should be using shackles anyway. Guessing you haven't been doing this long. Maybe concentrate on learning to load and tie down machines first before setting a camera up. I have 40 years of this and i wouldn't employ you for a while yet.
Hey man just wanted to let you know as an equipment hauler that I run into that problem a lot but a lot of times you can just put the links through the hole (fold chain in half ) & connect the hook to the other side to the chain & works perfectly fine that way you not having to mess with Carter pins
You win today!!! I’ve never seen or thought of that, but it makes perfect sense. Thank you for the info and teaching me something new today, I’m going to try that next round! 👍
Awesome just trying to help out love the content man I watch you all tow piglet ,hotshot haulers , hotshot adventures ,hotshot Dave haulin cash ect... trying to get out there myself hopefully next year
Also keep a few shackles. Shackle in load tie-down point and chain into shackle
You thought of throwing a few shackles in your tool box? Just an offshore thing.
You are the only hotshot creator that produces quality hotshot content.
Newbie here , running RGN .. Thank you very much ! Literally had to load this and take off hooks on my chain and secure ! Great way of showing us !
I was an 88M in the Army and served over 20 years. I always learn something new watching your videos. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your service, I also served..63B/11B...military does everything ass backwards
jam84 ** thanks man! And thank you for your service brother!
Man, I appreciate your videos. I need all the help I can get.
I remember the first time I picked up one of those small loaders. I would have never thought it was that easy to chain down. Couldn't find the tie downs to save my life at first. Wish you made this video years ago lol. But hey, we all learn everyday right?
I didn’t ask enough questions if I don’t learn something everyday man 👍👍
As a heavy equipment hauler I would recommend backing the machine on because there's alot of air drag with the bucket facing towards the front. Not sure if you locked the middle but DOT is hard on us about not securing (red locking bar on the driver side that secures the equipment from articulating) all machines that articulate in the middle.
I couldn’t put it on backwards due to the weight distribution. I have to haul the majority of it on the trailer axles. The bucket isn’t dragging much. I’m over 600 miles in with 10.6 mpg. Yes the lock pin is in and I do realize that I forgot to mention that in the video. Check Instagram 👍👍
The easiest means of getting through those tie-downs is to use very short (1-2') of chain with one chain hook. Hook the short chain to itself, hook the transport chain to its tail. They really come in handy for plenty of other things which don't have good tie-down points, and don't weigh much or take much space. They're also a source of spare hooks in case one needs replacement on the normal transport chains.
Use D rings or Clevis on those tie down point if hooks don't fit. Easy peazy
gary r I’ve packed clevis loops before, I got tired of keeping up with multiple sizes. Cotter pins are way cheaper lol. That’s just me though.
I learn something every time.
For pulling the cotter pins out - use a pair of dikes. You grab the cotter pin just behind the 'head' and lever the dikes on the pin. Will pull the cotter pin through easy, even when the cotter pin is mangled up.
Thanks for the video. I'm looking to swap from straps to chains and you gave me some ideas/techniques.
Good work good información I have cdl up to how much weight can you hul ?
Thanks man. I can put 16k on this trailer setup.
Good video. You put out good content. DOT would say you need a strap or chain at mid span where machine articulates. Any articulating equipment needs securement at articulation point.
I actually failed to show this on the vid but you are right. I posted the pin on Instagram lol 👍
i keep a set (4 lengths of chain) of chains with only one hook on one side for these situations. realistically the only time i use both chain hooks is when im using a single length of chain as "two" chains, such as the center tie down spot on a boom lift.
Load Mizer, to add to the folding your chains to reduce the headache of messing with hooks, have you looked into the synthetic shackles, they have a WWL of 8,000 lbs each, light weight and don't take up space, also, the red pin under the cab of the loader, does the law require you to lock out the loader from potential oscillation? Any how. Hope 2021 is a profitable one for you.
Yessir and I really wish I would have included that in this video. Any articulated vehicle has to be locked out during transport. DOT loves writing those violations up. I’ve honestly never looked into the synthetic shackles, I’ll check that out!!
Great video always learning. Have any ideas where I can find local work in arizona? 35ft step deck ready to work.
Thanks awesome content !
Suggestion- Upgrade your hook pins to a bolt and castle nut style, or bolt, nut, and hole for cotter pin style, Should be safer.
What's your opinion on using a MV series international truck for a power unit
My opinion is that the mid series style trucks like that are too much for Hotshot freight and not enough for semi freight. Especially at the price point. For that price and maintenance standpoint you might as well just get a semi.
Can you use a torsen pin like a small version of a hitch pin on those hooks?
I used to use clevis loops if that’s what you’re talking about. Some people call them a D ring. I was just showing guys how to chain it up without any other equipment besides a chain.
What are those pins called he changed out on the g70 chain
Cotter pins
@@LoadMizer thank you sir 👍🏾
Great video! My question is, are there a particular size cotter pins to get with your chains? Or they come one size fits all?
Is there hook on both ends of the chain? I ask because if is just one side, you could've just threaded the chain ⛓ from the none hook side Yes or No.
Thanks again for your knowledge and willingness to teach yourself and us.
Yes I have hooks on both ends of all my chains. Situations like this one made me wish I only had one end lol
That was one of the best things about flatbed. I us to load all my own Equipment . Just for the fun of it. It only got hailing when I pulled a tank once. That they wouldn’t let me drive. Lol
Why the load is all the way back, does the trailer swing left and right when you reach 55mph?
How is trailer doing performance, maintenance, breakdowns, etc?
Haven’t had any issues out of it. I’ve been swapping the hub oil every 15k on it.
Can you provide the information where you got it please?
They’re no longer in business. I got it at Dowden Trailers in Tennessee.
Nice 👍 work be safe out there.
Is there a reason why it’s loaded forward facing instead of towards the rear? It seems it would have more drag that way (forwards) I mean if the weight distribution allows.
It was because of weight. If I would’ve loaded it backwards too much weight would’ve been past the trailer axles. I hated hauling stuff that far back on that trailer. Was like a diving board.
Nice work! What was the weight on that bad boy?
Thanks man. This one is 13,100
Hey Man. I understand the way you are doing it. But with the length of chain you are using wouldn't it be easier and better to cross chain it?
I typically would but there was too much in the way to cross chain the front and in the rear the position of the attachment point would’ve had my chains up agains the diff if I crossed them. Most of the time I try to cross chain though 👍
Good video!
Good video brother
What about having anchor shackle With screw in pin to put in and chain to that
Yessir, those are also called D rings and clevises. You can absolutely use them and they’re basically the best option in my opinion. Just make sure the WLL on them are sufficient.
you need whatever many chains you want the one end has hooks the other end with no hooks 5 foot long chains
I use heavy duty key rings. So easy and re useable.
Jason Leger no you don’t! Lmao please tell me you don’t!
Lol..yes
Load Mizer lol why not. My back ground is oil field and it’s osha approved. Lol
Jason Leger don’t tell all the secrets lol
Load Mizer lol sorry
Hey Driver
Did you have to place cover over the exhaust pipe to prevent it from starting up on you on while driving ? Seen channels where they mention to do that. Just curious if you did or not
You cover the exhaust to prevent the turbo spooling with no oil pressure and to keep rain out. I’ve never heard of one starting. If the exhaust is facing forward I cover it. It’s facing to the rear though on this one it’s fine. No worries of rain or air getting in. 👍
Use side cuts to get those pins out, work good. don't cut them just grab them and pull.
Try to get extra keys for all makes of equipment helps also usually same key fits all
Spare on this is in the instruction manual bag 👍
I keep a set of chains with only a hook on one end for that reason
Yessir! I’ve used clevis loops also but you have to keep so many sizes it’s almost not worth it to me lol
Yeah I keep 4 8' chains with 1 hook each
@@martygoble2652 yeah we do the same thing down here.
I buy a 20ft chain with hooks, grab the dewalt hand grinder and cut out link in middle and bam you got 2x chains for the price of one and we don't mess with cotter pins.
Heck I would probably loose the case of cotter pins ;)
What size chain is used here?
I carry 5/16. I can’t haul anything heavy enough to need 3/8
Can you please take the time to explain why are you parked it at that position on your trailer. Not right over both axles and not all the way in the front either.
You have to distribute the weight accordingly. I can have almost 9k on my truck axle and 20k on my trailer axles. This loader weighs 13,100. Most of the weight is going to be where the engine is which is in the rear on this loader. So I make sure the majority of the weight is on the trailer axles. When I scaled I was 7800 on the truck and 17900 on the trailer.
Grab some 7/8 d rings off Amazon..they work great
That would have been cool if you turned it around might have gotten a tad better fuel mileage. I bet that bucket caught some wind! New subscriber love your videos man
Welcome to the channel! It really didn’t catch more than it would have backwards, there was freight in front of it.
Hey brother, Great Vid! I’m just getting into the HS box, got 20yrs CDL driving exp. Got a couple questions. 1) would the bucket be too far back (hanging off) if you’d turned it around? 2) what size and how long are your chains, how many do you keep on the truck?
Where do you buy the chains?
4 CHAINS!! lol my former boss showed me the easy quick way of the 2 chain method, but this was the same loader all day. Hell some days we didn't even use a chain if the run was short enough...im talkin 5-10 minutes down the road, damn thing never moved lol. This was with a lowbed truck though, way more stable on a LowBoy break-away deck.
All jokes and fun aside this channel gives me a lot of inspiration/information on hotshot since all I know is big truck. Thanks for being a source of info 🤘🤘🤘
Not that I was joking about using two chains lol it was done in a way that did the job of 4 chains lol still used 4 binders regardless
Per 390, you need 4 tie point minimum and the bucket is a separate tie down for anything over 10,001 lbs.
Why does the bucket have to be flat?
Helps it sit level and keeps it from digging a hole in your trailer.
Thanks 🔥🔥🔥
Dawm Ricky that cotter pin was kicking your but 🤣🤣, good video my friend
That was ridiculous lol. Only one that had a big kink in it to. The others came right out 🤣
Love the music ;-)
Hey my friend how do I start job do I need my own truck or hot shot will lease me on need help to start hauling job..
So glad you separated from TOW PIGLET
How did you get a Canadian accent at the beginning, aye?
The Canadian wind was coming in strong 🤣
Why not use shackles
I was taught that my equipment that articulates to use the mechanical lock so it can articulate. Don’t think it’s a law but something I just do
EDIT. Noticed it was brought up, sorry
It’s all good man. I hate that I didn’t even bring it up on the video. 👍
I believe the chains are to far out?
The way you have it there and I see a lot of it, don’t mean anything against you, just that when you’re that far out, all it’s doing is keeping the tractor from moving forward and backward, not really holding it down. You don’t need much pulling forward and backwards, just enough to keep it from rocking, if you would’ve came in one more pocket, it would serve the purpose of what you intended and holding it down better. If it’s not held down, bouncing on these nice roads we have these days May break a chain.
another suggestion is if your chain is long enough, use one chain in the rear and 2 binders. Run the chain across to the other side and up to tractor then secure the way you did with the binders. The chain won’t hurt that tire, if anything help secure the backwards and forward motion should you have to panic stop.
Be Safe, Take Care!!
bring it here, I could use it for like an hour..
That cotter pin would have come out far quicker if you weren't trying to show someone!
Man that no joke, I’ve never fought a pin like that 😂
The chains are supposed to crisscross, right side of tractor to left side of trailor and vise versa. It's in the FMCA guide book.
They don’t have to. Most crossed chains are only put on that way because of an obstruction. The only absolute for a cross chain was a coil loaded shotgun. I’ve heard they did away with that too though, not 100% there I haven’t hauled a shotgun coil in years.
Chains are not supposed to be criss crossed, what poor advice, unless like he stated....not enough room or something else is in the way. The way he did it is the best way to tie down most loads. He has the four required tie down points at approximately 45 degree with a ratchet binder. I'm sure the chains are the required min grade 43 rated at 5,000lbs or higher for each corner.
You made one mistake here. Since this in an articulating piece of equipment, you need to have chains on each side of the equipment in the middle to prevent articulation. Its a federal law. Not trying to be that guy but its in the book.
There’s a locking pin on the vehicle that has to be in place. I didn’t show it in the video, I do believe I followed up on Instagram though lol
@@LoadMizer Ok then you're all good.
You don’t secure the center of the tractor..this tractor have articulation ..
Well your almost correct, you need to connect the articulation lock or throw a chain, next time you try and give a tutorial get it right
Skip the most important part
I know I know lol. I didn’t record throwing in the locking pin.
first one lol
🍪🤣
good job man!
Instead of taking cotter pins out of the hooks you should be using shackles anyway. Guessing you haven't been doing this long. Maybe concentrate on learning to load and tie down machines first before setting a camera up.
I have 40 years of this and i wouldn't employ you for a while yet.