Ride a Carbon Frame? Here's What You NEED to know about Frame Clamps!

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  • @trwilliams22
    @trwilliams22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm grateful for having round seatposts on all my bikes. This product makes a lot of sense.

  • @andrewdinin4819
    @andrewdinin4819 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have the Hirobel and it is one of the best tool purchases I have made. Works on all bikes and all frame materials.. Nicely done...

  • @scottbradbury4094
    @scottbradbury4094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When I bought my Madone SL7 a few years back, the guys at the Trek store recommended that I get one of these to protect my frame. The piece of mind is worth the purchase price. Thanks, Josh!

    • @shileitian2083
      @shileitian2083 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Trek actually has their own clamp for Madone. I'm currently using that. It is still a seat tube clamp, but the force that can be applied is fixed.

  • @stuartroberts6272
    @stuartroberts6272 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hirobel let me continue to use the park stand. My dad gave the stand to me for Christmas in 1987. He always said he wished he loved anything as much as I did bicycles.

  • @changrenyong7616
    @changrenyong7616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Owned a Hirobel for a few years and didn't realize the cones could be rotated to fit different top tube shapes. Thanks for the video!

    • @johntonetti1521
      @johntonetti1521 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Same situation, and I was today year's old when I learned it.

  • @n22pdf
    @n22pdf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative dude.. Great product wish it was cheaper 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍

  • @rsd70s
    @rsd70s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love mine! A must-have product especially for bike shops

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant. Nothing else like it. Worth every penny.

  • @winfried6579
    @winfried6579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bought one early this year. It works great, also to transport a carbon bike on a bike rack on the back of the car.

  • @SnaxNoCo
    @SnaxNoCo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to support a tandem is always trickly because neither seatpost is close to the center of gravity--leading to the temptation to clamp the delicate top tube. This seemed like the perfect answer, so I bought one. Alas, it's not long enough for tandem frames. Silca support is checking to see if they can make a longer one, which would be awesome! While I don't know how big the market would be for a tandem-compatible version, the investment in manufacturing would be minimal since the only requirement is a slightly longer piece of extruded aluminum, so no extra tooling, etc. Here's hoping that they can do it!

  • @SamW604
    @SamW604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I own the Hirobel and find that top tubes on my Trek Domane road bike and my Trek Fuel Ex mountain bike and too wide and thus don't fit properly in the Hirobel. The Hirobel's gray silicone contact receptacles should be wider in order to accommodate the wider top tubes that are common on today's bikes.

  • @DanTuber
    @DanTuber 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Can you tweak the price down? it's so expensive for a tube of aluminium and some rubber

  • @nickkambitis5340
    @nickkambitis5340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had my Hirobel for over 8 years now when Brandon Hirowaki owner and inventer of the Hirobel clamp was selling them privately. Now sold to Silca. It still works superbly.

  • @stuartdryer1352
    @stuartdryer1352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Hirobel is the single best thing I've ever bought for bike maintenance, at least after a good set of Allen and Torx wrenches. I love the Silca chain wax, but the stuff I used to make for myself was at least ok. But there's nothing like this bike support anywhere else.

  • @blazacrew
    @blazacrew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought Hirobel few month ago and its been great and easy to use

  • @randallsmith7885
    @randallsmith7885 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent points. Thank you. It is so easy to damage a carbon frame. My last two bike purchases have titanium frames. I still won’t clamp them by anything except the seat tube. I may have to consider this Silca Hirobel.

  • @Wds__99
    @Wds__99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just put a rag in my clamp and rest the top tube on it, without closing the clamp; on the balance point of the bike so it’s stable as I work on it.

    • @LeeBoris974
      @LeeBoris974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what I do too, but I almost knocked my bike out of by accident one day.

    • @djanksey
      @djanksey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same, works for very basic maintenance, but sometimes I definitely need more stability. I’ll likely pick up a Hirobel at some point.

    • @ghawk16-ish
      @ghawk16-ish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This. Yellow MF cloth folded over a couple of times. Then lightly screw the clamp closed where it's barely touching. But that is a cool tool.

  • @scotkudron9537
    @scotkudron9537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why don't you design a work stand with the Hirobel integrated?

  • @pinkyfull
    @pinkyfull 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:13 interestingly my clamp actually does clamp front to back. I've not had any issues clamping aero seat posts and that is probably the reason why.

    • @sbccbc7471
      @sbccbc7471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is fine for almost every seatpost, except über lightweight ones like Darimo, MCFK, Schmolke and THM.

  • @miketaylor7678
    @miketaylor7678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great product! I got one this year and love it!

  • @christianemeiners9224
    @christianemeiners9224 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love it; using it since half a year or so! Super engineered ❤

  • @ZiggyMeister
    @ZiggyMeister 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Thanks

  • @paulclark895
    @paulclark895 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interested in this product having seen the video. The video explains the problems of clamping frame/post but is looking at work stands that clamp in a front to back axis. Mine clamps top to bottom or side to side, as do many. This being the case I cannot see how the jaws would be able to fit around this device. Would you please let me know whether and how this is possible?

  • @noelpapelera1025
    @noelpapelera1025 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought one when I bought my first carbon bike in 2020. So expensive, but so worth it. I also use it to store my bike

  • @peterbielert8933
    @peterbielert8933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please, can you suggest how to secure a carbon road bike when transporting on a bike rack on a car? We use a Thule one which sits on the trailer hitch of a passenger car. Obviously, we need to secure the bikes somewhere, so we try to clamp them as close to the intersection with the seat tube as possible, but still on the top tube. We do add Thule's sleeve to further distribute the forces and don't tighten the clamp strongly. We only secure it so much that the bike is save, we don't wait for the torque to be limited by the clamp.

  • @hobbyhaas
    @hobbyhaas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video explaining to handle your bike(s) carefully. I do not use a workstand anymore.
    I always work on my bikes (race, MTB, NLcitybike) while hanging on 2 ropes. I do not use hooks but use two looped ropes which I throw over a 4”x2”. Both ends of one rope I loop around the saddle. The other rope loops around the handlebars. Works like a charm. Torquing BB can be done while hanging but I prefer to put the bike back on the floor. Hope this makes sense.
    Many bikeshops in the Netherlands use hanging method (with hooks).

    • @mrjakobt
      @mrjakobt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great solution for bike shops. Unfortunately not very practical for many people at home. The hirobel clamp and similar products are a great solution.

  • @GummeeH3
    @GummeeH3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my Feedback stand, but they don't do anything other than round tubes very well. My van' has a Park clamp. My home shop has a Park stand with the steel base. Last shop had an EVT stand.
    I like the Park 100-3D clamp the best
    I have a Hirobel for when I have to use the Feedback stand in the field for the reasons stated in this video

  • @CatManDoSocial
    @CatManDoSocial 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love my Hirobel!

  • @robotwhybot
    @robotwhybot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An thought give to adopting this to create a nice wall mount for bike, to hang them off walls?

  • @mlegrand
    @mlegrand 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this channel. 🚲

    • @SnaxNoCo
      @SnaxNoCo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do as well--even though it means I send all of my money to Silca.

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a very happy owner of the Hirobel frame clamp, my only issue is that my bike stand (which is old and very cheap) does not hold the Hirobel frame clamp securely no matter how tight I clamp it down. Yep, that is my own problem for not buying a better stand....the Hirobel frame clamp is brilliant.

  • @Andryk123
    @Andryk123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:13 Do you have any recommendations to prevent the Hirobel from rotating/spinning in the bike stand clamp? Whenever I put in heavier frames it tends to slip/sag and I will have to re-clamp the Hirobel back into the stand. Thanks!

    • @SILCAVelo
      @SILCAVelo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This happens in some of the older style clamps (like the one I have at home) with round jaws.. if yours has grooves for cables to pass through (as all of the older Park stands do) you can drill a hole in the Hirobel and screw in an M6 socket head cap screw on the top and/or bottom of the bar.. the head of the screw then locates in the groove of the clamp and prevents rotation. I'll make a video on this!

  • @einundsiebenziger5488
    @einundsiebenziger5488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is of course a Silca commercial promoting the Hirobel frame clamp. Good idea, useful product, no question. The hidden message is to frame manufacturers to finally skip their stupid proprietary seatposts: A standard-diameter, round seatpost allows you to easily replace it with a cheap aluminium one and clamp it securely your bike into your old, otherwise pefectly good workstand.

  • @littleshadyify
    @littleshadyify หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does it work when washing the bike?

  • @bubby372
    @bubby372 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will this clamp work on a '23 Trek Madone with the Iso flow?

  • @antoniodallerive2446
    @antoniodallerive2446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fair Point! What about bike Mount on Cars? Roof or trailer hitch porter?

  • @coachjohn
    @coachjohn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Went strait to Amazon and bought one

  • @Yurkevich22
    @Yurkevich22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you are not clamping, but just resting it on the clamp like on a hanger? Not actually squeezing the two sides of the clamp but just resting the top tube on the bottom clamp half.

  •  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The day my bike arrived I mounted it in the frame to assemble it and feel bad for that one time ever since...

  • @__marshie
    @__marshie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fork mounted workstand even better.

    • @idlerfang
      @idlerfang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, in that case bike is mounted at it's strong points which are designed to handle not just static load but also heavy impact. Unfortunately it takes maybe 30secs more to mount the bike so bike shops don't like it 😂

    • @SILCAVelo
      @SILCAVelo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fork mounts are great for bike washing and derailleur tuning, but are limiting for shop environments as you can't really do any front brake or headset work when using one, so you end up needing a frame clamping stand as well.

    • @idlerfang
      @idlerfang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SILCAVelo Indeed. For my home workshop, I made myself an adaptor to support both front and rear so I can also work on my front wheel with the stand. For headset work I use my Wahoo Kickr 😎 Brake bleeding is another scenario I found that a frame clamping stand works better since you can easily tilt the bike.

    • @rtwktFam
      @rtwktFam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Had a fork mount system but got rid of it as it has limitations such as trueing front discs, I had to take my bike off of the stand and mount the front wheel and hold it by hand and spin the wheel to look at the disc flatness. Moved to a standard mount and can do more maintenance.

  • @lookingdown8290
    @lookingdown8290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For what many of us spend on carbon bikes these days, this seems like a very sensible investment.

  • @WiseOneSun
    @WiseOneSun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While watching your highly informative video, I cringed at the idea of placing my newly acquired bike ( carbon fiber frame) back onto my bike rack which is similar to the traditional bike stand because it holds the bike horizontally via the top tube. Can this hero Bill product be used on my frame when I'm placing it on the bike rack or do I need to get an entirely new bike rack where the bike sits on the rack via the wheels and tires? Thank you

  • @bluesthemoose
    @bluesthemoose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want one of these posters. Please. 😅

  • @Chris-iv2ud
    @Chris-iv2ud 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yea, Giant distributor in my place has 3 work stations non of them are using the clamping station, they are using the one that can lock the thru axle of the bike onto the station. They mentioned although the chance of you actually damage the tubes by clamping is really low, but due to how modern carbon bike was constructed, saving weight and reduce the thickness where force doesn't apply when riding aka the top tube, they don't want to risk it as they got to be the one who warrant the frame if they damaged it. Lmao.

  • @boothinator
    @boothinator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting topic and great explanation. I don't even own a carbon bike

  • @fabienvillain
    @fabienvillain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ​​is it okay to sit on the frame when you're waiting for your friends along the road?

    • @philadams9254
      @philadams9254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell no. I've never understood why people do that. Frame damage is one thing but the crotch damage must be horrible too.

    • @frybait0626
      @frybait0626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its not a chair bro

    • @fabienvillain
      @fabienvillain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frybait0626 All pros do it when they're waiting at the start line. So it's worth wondering if it's okay or not.

    • @frybait0626
      @frybait0626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fabienvillain bro. Not everything you see on pro scene should be done by us normal people. If a pro somehow cracked his/her frameset, they have a lot of spare to replace it on the spot. Us mere mortals don't have such luxury.

  • @Gufolicious
    @Gufolicious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woul be nice if you make a hirobel for bike car racks so we could put our expensive frames on the back of our car.

    • @UloPe
      @UloPe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thule sells something similar for that purpose.
      It’s called Thule 982 frame adapter.

  • @turner02
    @turner02 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think silca should come out with a fresh new take on bike stands........come on Josh, you can do it.

  • @aluminati9918
    @aluminati9918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great product. But honestly I don’t even trust this. For carbon bikes I only use front fork attachment stands. I see that goes for some pro team mechanics too. Keep up the great vids!

  • @jimbo9030
    @jimbo9030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic product but at a crazy $330AUD it's unrealistic for home mechanics 🤷

  • @mitmPL
    @mitmPL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about bike car racks?

  • @makantahi3731
    @makantahi3731 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have cheap columbus slx frame

  • @lizhengzhang
    @lizhengzhang 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it’s like shopping channel😂

  • @xvdifug
    @xvdifug 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just tighten until the frame 'Clicks'.

    • @GummeeH3
      @GummeeH3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you forgot the step after: tighten it till it creaks, then back off a quarter turn

    • @xvdifug
      @xvdifug 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GummeeH3 A cone wrench between the clamping surface and the frame may be employed if slipping is a problem, Emory cloth is also useful in this situation.

    • @xvdifug
      @xvdifug 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is humor,don't worry 😉

  • @michamotulewicz4331
    @michamotulewicz4331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How many watts it saves?!!

  • @endtimeslips4660
    @endtimeslips4660 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the safest way to clamp your bike is you clamp it on seat post but both of tire are touch the ground. that is what i do.

  • @PoulHansenDK
    @PoulHansenDK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good idea but 200 euro??!! I used some polymorph plastic that is mouldable when hot. pressed it against the bike and the clamp simultaneously so now I have the perfect shape and I made one for each different tubeshape.

  • @aswd911
    @aswd911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it’s expensive to be honest

  • @emilegoguely4032
    @emilegoguely4032 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always clamped my top tube, never cracked and as far as I know : I don't know anyone who has broken a frame on a stand.

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We still see World Pro Team mechanics clamping carbon top tubes. Moral of the story... being a pro mechanic doesn't make you a good mechanic.

    • @RyonBeachner
      @RyonBeachner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Virtually every world tour team is using fork/BB mounted stands from what I’ve seen.

    • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
      @user-cx2bk6pm2f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RyonBeachner Come to think of it, that's what I've seen recently too. Maybe it's becoming less common.

    • @frybait0626
      @frybait0626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if they do somehow manage to crack the frameset, they have a lot of spares to replace it with.

    • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
      @user-cx2bk6pm2f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frybait0626 And at no cost 😅

  • @theillegalimmigrant9314
    @theillegalimmigrant9314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A 15 minute advert.

  • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
    @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A solution for a problem that does not exist: just use the standard stand clamp with the minimum force required to hold the bike by the seatpost without slipping.
    PS It is aluminium not aluminum, this is how you say the name of the element with the atomic number 13 correctly.

  • @davidbee8178
    @davidbee8178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not all that pretty but certainly functional :-) if it can save just ONE frame it pays for itself in one fell swoop

  • @SuperDodoe
    @SuperDodoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stop the fear mongering to sell this crap and clamp the seat post like every other person who works on bikes in a stand does.

  • @whynotride327
    @whynotride327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buying the rights to a product does not make it a Silca product.
    You did not invent it (and I suspect you do not manufacture it now).
    You glossed over that very quickly.

    • @SILCAVelo
      @SILCAVelo  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You mean at 9:54 when I say the words 'I didn't invent it' and then name the guy who did and discuss buying it from him? Also, we don't mention anything about manufacturing, but the tool is assembled in the SILCA factory in Indianapolis and uses 100% USA manufactured content..

    • @whynotride327
      @whynotride327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SILCAVelo That is exactly what I meant when I said that you glossed over it VERY quickly.

  • @Maxpower88888
    @Maxpower88888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    More bullshit whaaaa?

    • @SnaxNoCo
      @SnaxNoCo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Doesn't look like BS to me.

    • @GummeeH3
      @GummeeH3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Let me guess: you''re one of those 'I always clamp my bike by a frame tube and have never had anything happen' types.

    • @marcdaniels9079
      @marcdaniels9079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GummeeH3
      That’s me ! Road and MTB And in the car roof bike carrier. But only 20 year’s experience with no issues so I guess it’s not really convincing 😅😅😅

    • @SnaxNoCo
      @SnaxNoCo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcdaniels9079 You carry your bike by its top-tube on the roof rack? ;)

    • @Maxpower88888
      @Maxpower88888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GummeeH3 ur guess is wrong whaa?