Perfect! I will be installing a 4m x 8m pool in a few months and wait to purchase a solar power system. I was told to wait for the pool and pumps to be installed before installing a solar power system. This would mean I'd need both AC and DC pumps; like yours. Our electric bill (in Thailand) is already too high and adding a pool will be more expensive! A off-grid (no batteries) solar power system seems to make (cents) sense.
I know this video is a year old, but I'm looking to do a solar set up for my pump. Looking at the solar pump also. My question is, what keeps the pump from getting too much charge/ power from the panels?
I was wondering the same thing, since there is no separate charge controller. Keep in mind the breaker will trip if there is too much coming in from the panels. I wonder whether there is a built-in controller on the pump. The other issue is sags/minimum pump voltage.
why would you need to run pumps at night? I have a 40,000L 10566 gallon pool, and I only need to run the pump for 6 hours a day summer and 3 hours in winter. do you have a link to the the pump you purchased please? I have 3kw of spare panels I can put to use doing this.
Hi I live in CA and I have a pool that takes 39,000 gallons, my pool is about 19'by 38' and rectangler. right now our electric bill is over 500 a month. I do have solar but only about 10 panels, but I have been wanting to do this to my pool, I like that you don't use a converter. but I don't have the wall that you have but I have a make-shift patio, but would like to know the cost but I also know that I would need more than 3 panels I would really like to do this have any ideas of how many panels I would. need. you did an awesome job and I need to do something like this. thank you so much, Rafaela Sandoval aka Thumper
Confirmed my need for a proof of concept, thanks. I have recently replaced the house solar system with a new system after 11years. The system worked fine and has more than paid for itself, I just wanted a more modern and more efficient system with WIFI monitoring. What to do with the old system? Run the pool pump DC to DC from the old system's panels. I have 14x190w panels or 2.6kw to play with and a roof that faces in the direction to get midday to late afternoon sun so it all seems to stack up as a good plan. I am just checking with the ENERGY provider to make sure that I will not break any laws etc and incur their wrath. I've been told by the recent solar installer to check with them first because if they notice a drop in my usage and then perform a photo audit of my rooftop and see the extra panels, even though the extras are DC to DC for the pool pump, the energy supplier will remove my generous feed in tariff and then ask questions later. Then I will get audited and faf around to prove my innocence. Its a mad, mad world.....
Hi from Spain. I am really impressed with your practical knowledge, application and how hard you work. You are fortunate in the US that electricity costs "only pennies" off peak. In Spain right now I have to pay 0.32 Euro / Kw. ( 35 US cents per Kw.) off peak, the high tariff is 0.54 Euro /Kw.( 60 US cents per Kw.) Electricity prices have increased nearly 3 times in the past year. It is now very expensive to run a pool pump and that is why I was interested in your presentation. Thank you for being so honest at the end, at the outset I thought 3 was insufficient, I have been told I need 6 and the capital cost in total about Euro 7,000 (8,000 US). I need to give serious thought to Solar Panels for the pool pump. In Spain we also experience very high Summer temperatures very similar to the 111 F.(44 C) you mentioned. Kind regards, John.
Question: what if the panels generate too much amps and voltage? With this system burn the motor out? If one needs to add a component to limit the high end and prevent burn out, what would that component be?
At Video marker 6:09 - 12:26 I reference the positive wire routed to the positive terminal and the negative routed to negative terminal on the pump. However, after having a great conversation over the phone today with Michael, the owner of solarpool.com, Somehow I missed the instructions on wiring the motor in reverse polarity as the impeller inside the pump needs to run in the opposite direction for proper water flow. DC motors can turn in either direction by simply changing the polarity of the wiring.
I am attempting to set up a electric generator system attached directly to my inground pool filter pump water outlet side. I want to use it to generate enough 220v 60hz current to feed back into the system to slightly offset the cost of running the pump during filtering of the pool.... Or.... generate enough 110v 60hz current to power an electric heater to help heat the pool cutting down on propane pool heating costs. So, what I think I need: 1. is to find a reasonably priced high-volume/low resistance water pump (possibly centrifugal), 2. tied to or mounted on a pump motor or car alternator and somehow converted to a generator, 3. Run that current through an appropriate inverter that can also output either the 220v or 110v AC at 60hz. 4. Then use that current to either run an electric pool heater at 1500 - 2000w or 5. Used in conjunction with 3 or 4 car 12v batteries, 6. back-feed the captured current back into the system.???? Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated!!!! I am trying to do this on a budget. I also realize and understand energy loss and entropy and the 1st and 2nd Laws, so I am only trying to recapture a portion of energy that is currently wasted. So far, I have thought about employing the use of a "jet well pump", or a centrifugal pump and running them in reverse of designed flow???
Question with all the respect, is it really worth it to do all this investment in time and money when a simple whisper flow 2.6vs by pentair would cost about 3 to 4 dlls a day to keep that 25thousand gallons pool, the pump is only 1400 bucks …. To me is not worth it , I’m a new pool builder in Houston Tx
I have a old 1 speed 3 hp 1996 challenger and the motor need replacement . Is it wise to buy a 2 speed motor to replace the one speed motor for energy saving when I just want to circulate my chemicals in the water???? BTW. I have an 8 jet spa and when valved off the spa has one separate jet that acts as a pool a overflow water fall while the pool is in valved for circulation and skimming. I also have a return separately valved for my polaris pressure side cleaner that i run as needed . In this 15000 gallon pool with a 10 person spa.
Were the panel specifications in the video the open circuit voltage and short circuit current? Also do you have the electrical specifications of the pump please?
Hello Lou, all the specifications of the pump can be found on the manufacture website. Natural current is the name of the company. The kit comes with everything you need. I hope this helps. Please like and subscribe if you find my constant relevant. Thanks for the comment.
I know this is an old video, but I was wondering what type of filter you paired with this pump? I was told I needed a cartridge filter to use it. I currently have a sand filter that has a max flow rate of 60 gpm. What gpm are you getting out of the pool pump when it is running at full speed?
Here's hoping you can help or someone can help. I am looking to get a solar pool pump with requires 2 - 330W panels with 36V series. Per the information on the pump it says it can run right off the solar panels without using a battery or inverter. Can anyone answer this question. Can the panels ever produce more power than needed?
well, even with our high californian electricity rates ($0.43/kWh in worst-case scenario) running a 200W pool pump for 8 hours a day costs me ~$.68 per day. If I run it full year in the same mode, it will make $4000 after ~16 years -- this is a pretty long break-even period. But actually winters require much less circulation, and I doubt the solar pump can work 8 hours per day full year at full 200W, so the real break-even period will be easily >20 years, probably exceeding the panels lifetime.
@@TheRainHarvester 200W is not an installed power, but the power consumed at the most economic low RPM. I have a variable-speed pump and I run it at a lower speed but longer time, which is the most optimal mode.
Love it! Do you have it running through the filter? Or just recirculating?
Perfect! I will be installing a 4m x 8m pool in a few months and wait to purchase a solar power system. I was told to wait for the pool and pumps to be installed before installing a solar power system. This would mean I'd need both AC and DC pumps; like yours. Our electric bill (in Thailand) is already too high and adding a pool will be more expensive! A off-grid (no batteries) solar power system seems to make (cents) sense.
A link to the solar panels and pool pump would be helpful.
Vick, did you ever get a response to your question? Please share the details.
@@almodovar0066 hes not reading them
Great detailed video. Thanks for sharing!! Will definitely refer back to this when I’m ready to install my own system
I know this video is a year old, but I'm looking to do a solar set up for my pump. Looking at the solar pump also. My question is, what keeps the pump from getting too much charge/ power from the panels?
I was wondering the same thing, since there is no separate charge controller. Keep in mind the breaker will trip if there is too much coming in from the panels. I wonder whether there is a built-in controller on the pump. The other issue is sags/minimum pump voltage.
why would you need to run pumps at night? I have a 40,000L 10566 gallon pool, and I only need to run the pump for 6 hours a day summer and 3 hours in winter.
do you have a link to the the pump you purchased please?
I have 3kw of spare panels I can put to use doing this.
Maybe if it's cloudy?
Hi I live in CA and I have a pool that takes 39,000 gallons, my pool is about 19'by 38' and rectangler. right now our electric bill is over 500 a month. I do have solar but only about 10 panels, but I have been wanting to do this to my pool, I like that you don't use a converter. but I don't have the wall that you have but I have a make-shift patio, but would like to know the cost but I also know that I would need more than 3 panels I would really like to do this have any ideas of how many panels I would. need. you did an awesome job and I need to do something like this. thank you so much, Rafaela Sandoval aka Thumper
Excellent work!
If anyone needs such a system please feel free to contact me.
Why don’t you connect it to the filter? Then you don’t have to run the other pump/filter on grid power at night.
Nice. How is the electrical secured for windy or rainy days?
I'm building my own swimming pool .. my question is if I install solar powered motor do I need to bond the the equipment??
I think it would have been beneficiary for you to make your solar panels adjustable for winter sun in Phoenix.
Confirmed my need for a proof of concept, thanks. I have recently replaced the house solar system with a new system after 11years. The system worked fine and has more than paid for itself, I just wanted a more modern and more efficient system with WIFI monitoring.
What to do with the old system? Run the pool pump DC to DC from the old system's panels. I have 14x190w panels or 2.6kw to play with and a roof that faces in the direction to get midday to late afternoon sun so it all seems to stack up as a good plan.
I am just checking with the ENERGY provider to make sure that I will not break any laws etc and incur their wrath. I've been told by the recent solar installer to check with them first because if they notice a drop in my usage and then perform a photo audit of my rooftop and see the extra panels, even though the extras are DC to DC for the pool pump, the energy supplier will remove my generous feed in tariff and then ask questions later. Then I will get audited and faf around to prove my innocence. Its a mad, mad world.....
Hi from Spain. I am really impressed with your practical knowledge, application and how hard you work. You are fortunate in the US that electricity costs "only pennies" off peak. In Spain right now I have to pay 0.32 Euro / Kw. ( 35 US cents per Kw.) off peak, the high tariff is 0.54 Euro /Kw.( 60 US cents per Kw.) Electricity prices have increased nearly 3 times in the past year. It is now very expensive to run a pool pump and that is why I was interested in your presentation. Thank you for being so honest at the end, at the outset I thought 3 was insufficient, I have been told I need 6 and the capital cost in total about Euro 7,000 (8,000 US). I need to give serious thought to Solar Panels for the pool pump. In Spain we also experience very high Summer temperatures very similar to the 111 F.(44 C) you mentioned. Kind regards, John.
Have you thought of adding solar heating?
Question: what if the panels generate too much amps and voltage? With this system burn the motor out? If one needs to add a component to limit the high end and prevent burn out, what would that component be?
charge control unit
Get a Jintai pump instead... it uses an MPPT controller to solve that problem, and fee the pump either 48v or 72v depending on the model.
After researching their website I found that the pumps do have DC current controllers in them.
At Video marker 6:09 - 12:26 I reference the positive wire routed to the positive terminal and the negative routed to negative terminal on the pump. However, after having a great conversation over the phone today with Michael, the owner of solarpool.com, Somehow I missed the instructions on wiring the motor in reverse polarity as the impeller inside the pump needs to run in the opposite direction for proper water flow. DC motors can turn in either direction by simply changing the polarity of the wiring.
Nice what size is the pump hp
@@hiree12 1hp pump
Why in reverse?!
Do you have a link to purchase this solar power pump, how much did it cost?
I am attempting to set up a electric generator system attached directly to my inground pool filter pump water outlet side. I want to use it to generate enough 220v 60hz current to feed back into the system to slightly offset the cost of running the pump during filtering of the pool.... Or.... generate enough 110v 60hz current to power an electric heater to help heat the pool cutting down on propane pool heating costs.
So, what I think I need:
1. is to find a reasonably priced high-volume/low resistance water pump (possibly centrifugal),
2. tied to or mounted on a pump motor or car alternator and somehow converted to a generator,
3. Run that current through an appropriate inverter that can also output either the 220v or 110v AC at 60hz.
4. Then use that current to either run an electric pool heater at 1500 - 2000w or
5. Used in conjunction with 3 or 4 car 12v batteries,
6. back-feed the captured current back into the system.????
Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated!!!!
I am trying to do this on a budget.
I also realize and understand energy loss and entropy and the 1st and 2nd Laws, so I am only trying to recapture a portion of energy that is currently wasted.
So far, I have thought about employing the use of a "jet well pump", or a centrifugal pump and running them in reverse of designed flow???
Does the quick disconnect somehow stop the load before breaking the connection? Tesla panel says do not disconnect wires while the load is powered.
How the pump holding up? What size is the pump HP? I’m looking into this
what is the before and after video for ?
Where can i get Solar panels?
amazingg video content
Question with all the respect, is it really worth it to do all this investment in time and money when a simple whisper flow 2.6vs by pentair would cost about 3 to 4 dlls a day to keep that 25thousand gallons pool, the pump is only 1400 bucks …. To me is not worth it , I’m a new pool builder in Houston Tx
What HP motor did you get?
Those poles seem thin. Fill them with concrete for strength?
Filter?
what watt was the panels
Can you give an update on your solar pump system. Is everything still working?
I have a old 1 speed 3 hp 1996 challenger and the motor need replacement . Is it wise to buy a 2 speed motor to replace the one speed motor for energy saving when I just want to circulate my chemicals in the water???? BTW. I have an 8 jet spa and when valved off the spa has one separate jet that acts as a pool a overflow water fall while the pool is in valved for circulation and skimming. I also have a return separately valved for my polaris pressure side cleaner that i run as needed . In this 15000 gallon pool with a 10 person spa.
Was your cleaner walking fast and did it had enough suction to pickup leaves and dirt
I don't get it... on sunny weeks it run all day (too much wear and tear) and on cloudy weeks it doesn't run at all (dirty pool)?
Is there a way to just buy a solar panel and connected to an already existing (sand) pool pump?
Were the panel specifications in the video the open circuit voltage and short circuit current? Also do you have the electrical specifications of the pump please?
Hello Lou, all the specifications of the pump can be found on the manufacture website. Natural current is the name of the company. The kit comes with everything you need. I hope this helps. Please like and subscribe if you find my constant relevant. Thanks for the comment.
Why don't you just mount those solar panel to that mountain? LOL
thank you for sharing it with us
Is that a variable speed DC pump? If so, what is the brand?
I know this is an old video, but I was wondering what type of filter you paired with this pump? I was told I needed a cartridge filter to use it. I currently have a sand filter that has a max flow rate of 60 gpm. What gpm are you getting out of the pool pump when it is running at full speed?
must watch video guys
can u add subtitles please?
Do you need to bond/ground a solar pool pump system?
Here's hoping you can help or someone can help. I am looking to get a solar pool pump with requires 2 - 330W panels with 36V series. Per the information on the pump it says it can run right off the solar panels without using a battery or inverter. Can anyone answer this question. Can the panels ever produce more power than needed?
Not if your panel is matched for max output...unless the sun gets brighter, or a big mirror directs more light onto the panel (don't do this).
Do you have the specs on the pump please..
Why not install solar panels on your roof and power your entire house as well as your existing pool pump?
costs a lot more to do with a mains inverter and a lot more panels.
This is so cool!!!!
Same question as V
i had no clue such things happen as well
looks good nice job.
done subscribed to ur channel
from where did u learn this?
cant wait for ur next upload
so much of information at one go
this is news to me
you spoke really well man
you nailed it buddy
those pumps are so expensive
How much did it cost?
$4,000 for the kit he has... shipping is free though😉
well, even with our high californian electricity rates ($0.43/kWh in worst-case scenario) running a 200W pool pump for 8 hours a day costs me ~$.68 per day. If I run it full year in the same mode, it will make $4000 after ~16 years -- this is a pretty long break-even period. But actually winters require much less circulation, and I doubt the solar pump can work 8 hours per day full year at full 200W, so the real break-even period will be easily >20 years, probably exceeding the panels lifetime.
@@onebronx a 200W pool pump is very very small. Are you sure its not really 2000Watt?
@@TheRainHarvester 200W is not an installed power, but the power consumed at the most economic low RPM. I have a variable-speed pump and I run it at a lower speed but longer time, which is the most optimal mode.
first time learning how to install the solar panel
Waste of money... vps pump is all you need.
Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh .