Should Ben White be open about his World Cup exit? 🤔⚽️ Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton have their say!

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  • Ben White posted a message on social media for first time since leaving England’s World Cup camp. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton discuss!
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  • @reggieperry4606
    @reggieperry4606 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    If you’ve ever heard Benjamin speak, you know he has zero Fs to give about what the media may want.

    • @TheKh65
      @TheKh65 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@ss4462 yet you are here

    • @menubuje
      @menubuje ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ss4462Clearly you do 😂

    • @Alan_Wigz
      @Alan_Wigz ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ss4462 You're obsessed with him

    • @samiulhuda4001
      @samiulhuda4001 ปีที่แล้ว

      hes mcguire 2.0 in the making.

    • @nqobilengema2165
      @nqobilengema2165 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samiulhuda4001 do you even watch football? Lol what an ignorant thing to text

  • @bg7393
    @bg7393 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    He can do what he likes. The media is just upset because they don’t know 😂

    • @Smiffy-72
      @Smiffy-72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spot on

    • @temitopeemmanuel2735
      @temitopeemmanuel2735 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly 😂😂

    • @BridgeStamford
      @BridgeStamford ปีที่แล้ว

      So players can just walk out of World Cup squads. Yeah right

    • @gladgan
      @gladgan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BridgeStamford I mean, they can. Obviously

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well he can but it won't be funny if he's not selected ever again for England

  • @hypnotics7886
    @hypnotics7886 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I’ve always found Dean Ashton eminently sensible. Hope he’s on more.

    • @mixedmitchell9178
      @mixedmitchell9178 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was a quality player too, if injuries didn't ruin him and force him to retire at 26 then he really could have been a top top player.
      He injured his ankle whilst on England duty at 23 years old and gave up the fight 3 years later unfortunately. Was being touted for a move to a big club at the time so his career was very much about to take off.

    • @yakedup
      @yakedup ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Completely agree, he’s refreshing when compared with Mills, Pearce, Keown etc

    • @robertmason6366
      @robertmason6366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally.

    • @tdevine3730
      @tdevine3730 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well spoken and insightful for sure

  • @mattswinnerton9892
    @mattswinnerton9892 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The whereabouts of John terry at the time of Ben whites departure from the England squad will leave great clues as to solving this mystery methinks 🧐

    • @michaeloliver7825
      @michaeloliver7825 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Only if John terry likes men now

    • @tobagogooner2187
      @tobagogooner2187 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@michaeloliver7825 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @adamfletcher3975
      @adamfletcher3975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaeloliver7825 freezing cold 😁

  • @creativitycell
    @creativitycell ปีที่แล้ว +38

    He complained about "casual relaxed attitude in training" saying the mentality, intensity and focus at Arsenal was far higher! Southgate took it as a criticism of his methods! The young players won't challenge Southgates methods! White said it was like a holiday camp!! Probably why they lost to France, Southgate to pleasing, Kane and Maguire were not fit, but Southgate has no balls for big decisions that Winners make!! 🤨

    • @FoxunitedFC29
      @FoxunitedFC29 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What utter nonsense 😂😂

    • @Never_Wr0ng
      @Never_Wr0ng ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FoxunitedFC29 You have evidence to prove it's nonsense ?

    • @marcoar4042
      @marcoar4042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Never_Wr0ng do you have evidence to substantiate the initial claims?

    • @Never_Wr0ng
      @Never_Wr0ng ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcoar4042 I never said I backed what the OP said.
      I'm questioning someone who's claiming Ben White wasn't good enough to play & needs to 'man up' - if they have any evidence to make such claims.

    • @FoxunitedFC29
      @FoxunitedFC29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Never_Wr0ng the evidence is that he either walked or got booted from the camp because he thinks he’s better than he’s is !!! He’s instagram post was embarrassing as well btw

  • @reisssato902
    @reisssato902 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Why can't we just "Respect his privacy" ? It's obviously a personal issue 🙄

    • @TheLeeBonner
      @TheLeeBonner ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I don’t even understand why this is in discussion. He’s not a politician, he doesn’t receive any tax power money and therefore is not obliged, just like everyone else, to discuss his matters publicly. If Gareth and Mikel are okay with it then I’m sure it’s not a big deal.
      Journalists are just digging at this in the hope that there’s a story here. ‘Ben White turns his back on England in midst of World Cup ’ being the headline they’re grasping for.
      It’s private and should remain so unless Ben decides otherwise. Simple. Are we that lost as a society to truly suggest otherwise?

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A footballer today asking for their privacy to be respected is hilarious. They spend their whole lives promoting themselves on social media, doing interview, TH-cam videos, Instagram posts, Twitter posts, sharing every opinion they have and every detail of their lives, every political opinion as well of course. Everything except how much tax they pay and who they vote for is made public. And then they ask for "privacy" when the public is curious about something actually football-related. Lol.

    • @reisssato902
      @reisssato902 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cockoffgewgle4993 you don't really believe that crap, surly? Nobody can be that thick 🍞

    • @AJP321
      @AJP321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on.

    • @vincineratev9183
      @vincineratev9183 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was 1 guy who had personal issue, nobody believes him even when he had a 2 part show on TH-cam.

  • @shamorshamor7609
    @shamorshamor7609 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Bro he just posted ‘he’s back’. I’m trying to figure out how that is interpreted as him wanting to talk about what happened at the camp

  • @alfieb6711
    @alfieb6711 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Dean is a great pundit get him on weekly start a petition

  • @kay-dc8495
    @kay-dc8495 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Those personal reasons are no one else's business. If he wants to keep it private let it be

    • @Matt-pn1ce
      @Matt-pn1ce ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is on Duty and the nation depends on him , he needs to apologise and come clean .

    • @Never_Wr0ng
      @Never_Wr0ng ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Matt-pn1ce Nation depends on him? What a joke 😂😂 He's been given ZERO competitive minutes in over 2 years. I wouldn't even have bothered going if I were him. Sitting on the bench while the likes of Maguire & Shaw start?? No fkin thanks!

    • @Matt-pn1ce
      @Matt-pn1ce ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Never_Wr0ng called up to represent a country isn't a club competition you div. You explained why , he would never get in over those players who are established internationally and he has blown his chance for good anyway . Ben white isn't good at centre back and isn't good at right back , what is his actual position instead of being a jack of all trades , he is a clown and let the country down , he can't just turn up and expect to start given the fact he isn't world class and was always a rotation player at Leeds.

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do we know they're no one else's business? Did you get clues from somewhere?

  • @user-bu9nb8wr6e
    @user-bu9nb8wr6e ปีที่แล้ว +62

    He asked Southgate if he had a chance of playing, Southgate said no so he left.

    • @roydixon1762
      @roydixon1762 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Definitely not the answer that's just to unprofessional

    • @isaacjacobs3785
      @isaacjacobs3785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Nope

    • @roydixon1762
      @roydixon1762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@isaacjacobs3785 never that's scandalous anything is possible

    • @craigoliver8712
      @craigoliver8712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn't back himself against the likes of Maguire-bottled it

  • @itzgmedmr9iceguy513
    @itzgmedmr9iceguy513 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    In the first case Southgate doesn't even want to call him and Maddison, he did that cause of media. thought!!

    • @paulgray7669
      @paulgray7669 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Totally agree.

    • @peterjoe530
      @peterjoe530 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correct

    • @harrydawson7986
      @harrydawson7986 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And Trent

    • @craigoliver8712
      @craigoliver8712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep spot on had feeling that was going to happen like calling Ivan Toney being called up for them 2 pointless nations league games(last 2 Internationals before W.C) then not playing him+plz stop with the he got a good feel for the place+how well he fitted in+such shite(he's not a foster child being placed in a new home)

    • @kyekyeeminah8734
      @kyekyeeminah8734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@craigoliver8712 you made me laugh with your plain honesty. 🤣 😅

  • @tonyejiro7641
    @tonyejiro7641 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This is why england will always dissapoint in big tournaments because of too much chat about nothing ,media should focus on how to solve the deep lack of self esteem in that squad not talking about ben,from the outside looking in it just feels like too much talking ,misplaced priority.

    • @leewainwright3526
      @leewainwright3526 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deep lack of self esteem what the hell you smoking kid they were narrowly beaten by France who it might have escaped your attention are the world cup holders and were there for the taking if Southgate had any tactical intelligence

    • @brianjackson8657
      @brianjackson8657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you

  • @MrSitemaster2
    @MrSitemaster2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It was obvious he wasn't going to play, so he may as well go and prepare with Arsenal.

    • @wawaw1194
      @wawaw1194 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is gay

    • @craigoliver8712
      @craigoliver8712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree

    • @deadlydizzle3942
      @deadlydizzle3942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not how it works when you're picked for your country. Look at Kolo Muani for the French team, he could've said the same thing but ended up playing a big part in the last game, scoring with his first touch.
      If true, Ben White was definitely that kid that said 'I'm taking my ball and going home because no one is passing to me' 😭

    • @MrSitemaster2
      @MrSitemaster2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deadlydizzle3942 The difference is Ben white was never going to play.

    • @deadlydizzle3942
      @deadlydizzle3942 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrSitemaster2 half the squad are doubtful of playing, they never left. Even at Arsenal, half of the first team are not guaranteed to play, should they not turn up for training either? That's the dumbest excuse I've heard for a player who is arrogant enough to walk out on his country because he's not guaranteed to play. Why not impress the manager by staying, putting in performances in training and forcing your way into his plans? How are you going to impress anyone if you only turn up when you're guaranteed playing time? That's just entitlement to the max

  • @mabozza85
    @mabozza85 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ultimately Ben you just need to back the courage of your convictions. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck its probably a duck.

    • @bluesEvanskro
      @bluesEvanskro ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Complete dollars for doughnuts imo

    • @benjamincorbett
      @benjamincorbett ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Like Southgate has ducked against every team which has players who all play at a pro level?

    • @Roger-Bacon
      @Roger-Bacon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You complete berk.

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And if it turns like a fridge and it stinks like the back of a fridge it's definitely Harry Maguire

  • @michaeltaylor4395
    @michaeltaylor4395 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Dean Ashton was a breath a fresh air on the show today, you could see it was debates between the three without it becoming a slanging match. Good watch/ listen today. Unlike the other day with Mills

    • @gladiatorscoops4907
      @gladiatorscoops4907 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Was gna comment exactly the same comparison of Deano vs Mills. More Deano, less Mills please TalkSport!

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They might just bring back Mills for the clickbait fireworks. 😁

    • @paulrichards6894
      @paulrichards6894 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      agree dean ashton was excellent......cant watch martin keown anymore......man talks garbage

    • @JayloT93
      @JayloT93 ปีที่แล้ว

      so much better than mills. bloke is a tool and I don't understand why he gets the air time

    • @roathripper
      @roathripper ปีที่แล้ว

      footballer pundits, manager pundits, they're all like skittles to Simon. all of them just an echo chamber, buzzing and droning their ass-covering excuses with no accountability assigned except to lunatic owners.

  • @clemo85
    @clemo85 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Argentina just won the World Cup with Aston Villa's keeper playing every game and a Brighton midfielder only missing one.
    Perfect example that picking based on REPUTATION or WHO THEY PLAY FOR is why England will never win a thing. Until they change their selection strategy...

  • @tawandamadzikanda604
    @tawandamadzikanda604 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    With how the British media treats their stars I understand fully his silence

    • @claudemurphy5035
      @claudemurphy5035 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes he should it was tax payers monies he went there with , we need to know

    • @007feck
      @007feck ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@claudemurphy5035 saying “tax payer money” doesn’t entitle you to everything you think it does

    • @SleepingDragon1
      @SleepingDragon1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@claudemurphy5035 Is it? I thought the FA paid for it with the £100,000,000+ they make each year

    • @panchopuskas1
      @panchopuskas1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SleepingDragon1 true.....and with all the crap that goes with it, I sometimes wonder why players don’t follow Eric Cantona’s example and tell them all to FO.....enjoy the international breaks in the comfort of your own home...

    • @Matt-pn1ce
      @Matt-pn1ce ปีที่แล้ว

      stop attacking Britain he owes the nation an apology and explanation in full . He will never appear for the national team again

  • @benmccarthy9180
    @benmccarthy9180 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Deans been good in the clips I’ve seen of him on the show, someone who attempts to give sense and reason👍🏻

    • @sirprintalot
      @sirprintalot ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yep really rate him now, especially against the loudest dissenting voices talking absolute rubbish.

    • @bobbypukes605
      @bobbypukes605 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that you Dean

  • @sugoshiyer1540
    @sugoshiyer1540 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    He could not digest the fact that he was a bystander despite bursting his gut for Arsenal who are top while Maguire gets a free pass in the team..he was not willing to wax lyrical about Southgate and the camp but wanted to play...respect his attitude which could have been useful vs France...

    • @rubens6619
      @rubens6619 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao he would offer Nothing more against france. Maguire wasnt ever a problem in the tournament. How you imply he was at fault says it all, gooner

    • @craigoliver8712
      @craigoliver8712 ปีที่แล้ว

      They already have a kit man

    • @blackkid128
      @blackkid128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rubens6619 Maguire scored an own goal. Plus he’s nowhere as good as Ben White

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please stop saying "wax lyrical". only Simon and grandmothers above 80 can pull it off.

  • @Ben_Gunner
    @Ben_Gunner ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Shouldn't media speculators be accountable for their own private behaviours and affairs to at least give substance to their opinions on the subject matters they offer with impunity?

    • @42shredda
      @42shredda ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Facts he dont need to say anything. too many weirdos feel entitled for a man tell them any and everything..who they dont even know like that is mad ..they need toget off his nutss and get money lool

    • @tonyejiro7641
      @tonyejiro7641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grown men some in their 60s ,type of stuff you'd expect from teenage girls ,I m sure they're been forced to be petty.

  • @kamaljitwadhawan191
    @kamaljitwadhawan191 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If white is not selected in future for England then you know it is problem with the coaching Team

    • @jziffi
      @jziffi ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't know the nature of the problem, mate.

    • @772364327rhdhqwag
      @772364327rhdhqwag ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jziffi thats why he said IF he's not selected in the future THEN you know it's a problem with the coaching team.

    • @amasim86
      @amasim86 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe, just maybe, white is THE problem

    • @palatialpetals
      @palatialpetals ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no, it's because he's a liability bailing on his country.. somebody else could have gone

    • @Smiffy-72
      @Smiffy-72 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@palatialpetals shut up you know f all of whats gone on..?

  • @carter3369
    @carter3369 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    He’s been brilliant for Arsenal this season. England’s best defender by a mile.

    • @Do27gg
      @Do27gg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Okay thanks

    • @Dman_199
      @Dman_199 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      His been playing at RB, and surely Trippier has been as good, if not better. No?

    • @ojvic7297
      @ojvic7297 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maguire is still the best defender for England…

    • @footballtalk5798
      @footballtalk5798 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's that good at centre back he got moved to right back

    • @stephenmccann3407
      @stephenmccann3407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ojvic7297 magiures dreadful tomori and white should have bee the two cbs

  • @JY-100
    @JY-100 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They clearly have nothing better to talk about, this is the biggest reach ever.... AN INSTAGRAM POST? Bloody hell.

  • @theundefeatedclub885
    @theundefeatedclub885 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He is under no obligation to explain to no one! Zip it! He chose to say what he wants to say whenever or wherever

  • @abiodunodeleye7984
    @abiodunodeleye7984 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why does anyone think Benjamin has to let anyone into his privacy?

  • @finding_aether
    @finding_aether ปีที่แล้ว +6

    British media is the worst. Respect his privacy!

    • @Trailhiker1
      @Trailhiker1 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was a newspaper called The news of the world. They hacked a young teenagers phone who mother & sister was murdered in front of her. Absolute scum of the earth. The paper collapsed 😁👍 UK press went from No1 in the world to absolute pond life.

  • @AdaptStudios
    @AdaptStudios ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Manager: Respect the man’s privacy.
    Media: Is that a threat?! Oh we finna show you now…

  • @mchammer1982
    @mchammer1982 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Good to see Simon coming to work with flu like symptoms

    • @nebbyscumbold
      @nebbyscumbold ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's always ill.

    • @MrHOUSEOFSILKTV
      @MrHOUSEOFSILKTV ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's not flu symptoms, he was on the packet the night before

    • @phoenixreborn6065
      @phoenixreborn6065 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rumour has it, he has a 98% survival rate but don't tell anyone!

    • @AndyDwyerSpeaks
      @AndyDwyerSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@phoenixreborn6065 i think its 99.9 😉

    • @phoenixreborn6065
      @phoenixreborn6065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AndyDwyerSpeaks Ah! I stand corrected, 99.9% it is! Sorry for the misinformation! 😉

  • @TwistedSoul2002
    @TwistedSoul2002 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    He’s saving it for his book…

    • @registame2878
      @registame2878 ปีที่แล้ว

      They all do

    • @sugoshiyer1540
      @sugoshiyer1540 ปีที่แล้ว

      Piers Morgan would have already called him...

  • @paulwilliams5296
    @paulwilliams5296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He's been seen at Thorpe arch discussing personal terms for a sensational return to the club he loves. Saw Bielsa in Wetherby Morrisons yesterday too. Also had to wait at the pedestrian lights in Boston Spa for Kalvin Phillips to cross the road.
    I'm on the carlsberg tonight 🤣🤣

  • @craigdoc6656
    @craigdoc6656 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know why he just doesn't come out as gay and be done with it

  • @mallyy1251
    @mallyy1251 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ben White doesn’t give af bout the media think tbf. Think he’s just happy to be back with the Arsenal team

    • @haimainjauo242
      @haimainjauo242 ปีที่แล้ว

      He will care if Southgate never calls him up again

    • @CurtisShawTv16
      @CurtisShawTv16 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haimainjauo242 Fraudgate will be gone sooner than he gets the chance to not call Ben

  • @101Verminator
    @101Verminator ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Have I missed the point that they were making about Ben’s insta post? Is he not just happy to be back at Arsenal with his teammates again??

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No. He's just promoting himself like all footballers do.

    • @101Verminator
      @101Verminator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cockoffgewgle4993 What is he promoting though?

    • @arranmelaugh5606
      @arranmelaugh5606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@101Verminator that he’s gay

    • @mf289
      @mf289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arranmelaugh5606he has a fiancée

    • @mf289
      @mf289 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ss4462 a footballer doesn’t conform to stereotypes. Must like men!

  • @shinpads3453
    @shinpads3453 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ben was told by Southgate that he wont be played and that Fridge Maguire will be the main CB for England in the knockout stages. So Ben said nope I wont be part of a loser team😂

  • @Cbart23
    @Cbart23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ben White is better than Harry Maguire.

  • @gr4303
    @gr4303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who business is it. International duty is not for everyone. Carragher said he never liked International duty hence retired early from it.

  • @Ben_Gunner
    @Ben_Gunner ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He gives 110% wearing my clubs badge and I've seen enough of his character to back him in however way he wants to conduct his private affairs in the manner he chooses. I couldn't care less what happened at the WC with my country. Ben imo is far from the usual conveyor belt of young talented sycophant players. If he's talented, profesional and trusted enough for Arteta to blow 50m on a must pick positional player and one of the first on the team sheet still, there should be no doubts of the players conduct during internationals.

  • @tanman966
    @tanman966 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I don’t think we’re that bothered about Ben White’s exit, are we...

    • @kygodragon4782
      @kygodragon4782 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      When Ben White plays for his club: They top the league and top the European league
      When Ben White doesn't play for England: They win nothing and go home.
      Clearly Ben White was needed.

    • @scottevans5689
      @scottevans5689 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@kygodragon4782 England always never win and go home

    • @kygodragon4782
      @kygodragon4782 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scottevans5689 Exactly... How many time was Ben White playing in them times when England didn't win?
      Zero. My point stands.

    • @scottevans5689
      @scottevans5689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kygodragon4782 So does my point, with or without Ben White England go home

    • @kygodragon4782
      @kygodragon4782 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottevans5689 Where is your proof with Ben White England go home? I have multiple pieces of proof that without Ben White England go home... Litearrly 4 days ago is my latest proof.

  • @mirrors23
    @mirrors23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a personal matter by all accounts, leave it be!!

  • @abhijeetdora6902
    @abhijeetdora6902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dean Ashton and Simon Jordan needs to be on the regular.... We back baby😎

  • @Red-Eyez420gaming
    @Red-Eyez420gaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Transparency to who? He owes no one anything....

  • @garypearson4007
    @garypearson4007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤧🤧good work Simon 👍

  • @christophernicolson5086
    @christophernicolson5086 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He probably left because he told Maguire he wasn't good enough to represent and was going to be put on loan to Wigan to get 1st team experience.

  • @layeththesmacketh
    @layeththesmacketh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not too sure why this is even a topic of discussion. Like any one of us, Ben too has every right to keep the reason(s) for his WC exit private. Irrespective of the "it's in the national interests" thing, clearly Ben feels that he does not (at this time) wish to discuss it. I'm sure we have all had a moment where we felt more comfortable keeping something quiet, regardless of the issue and if he felt comfortable to discuss it, he would have done. Respect his privacy, as you would want yours respected.

  • @pacbynz6496
    @pacbynz6496 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NO HE SHOULDNT!! F.. what you guys think!! He said PERSONAL which means NONE OF YA DAMN BUSINESS

  • @hicks3749
    @hicks3749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He won't want to go to the Caribbean either where its also illegal.

  • @dapz7763
    @dapz7763 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Timori at home like wtf

  • @phichau90
    @phichau90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If its a personal matter. Keep it dont spread it.

  • @rob_h_7
    @rob_h_7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If we had made the WC semi-final then we would have been playing tonight. He played for Arsenal yesterday. Would he have returned to the England camp?

  • @cassisbrook
    @cassisbrook ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll patiently wait for the Piers Morgan interview.
    /s

  • @roydixon1762
    @roydixon1762 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope it wasn't that though because that would be really sad state of affairs

  • @17scottymufc
    @17scottymufc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Makes no difference anyway, was never starting centre half, was never starting right back. Cycle for alot of those players is coming to an end so will probably go 24, but depends on how early southgate starts to move out players

  • @Manc268
    @Manc268 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    a pint with white & vardy might reveal some things about the camp :) ofc we'd like to know bcos we were a bit poor throughout the tounrnament. the sterling thing was strange aswel.
    The armbands & political nonsense before we left was also nothing to do with football & when minds needed to be focused properly i felt that was a sideshow. Hard to say if its bad management or pressure from the FA & Gov & media. We all saw there was something missing from the sqaud.

  • @Tipps72
    @Tipps72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No body else’s business! Why do people think they should know the in’s & out’s of everybody’s lives?

  • @jskyes8291
    @jskyes8291 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbh I doubt white would have played a single minute.. don’t think it’s that important

  • @DALFY100
    @DALFY100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like listening to dean

  • @rawthentictruth
    @rawthentictruth ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You know, in order to stay true to who you are and achieve your goals; just do what you are passionate about even if popular opinions don’t agree with you.
    Few months again, there were rumors at Man U about Ronaldo wanting to leave and not showing up for preseason. Many in the media, including former teammates, said Ronaldo needs to say something. Few months later, he says something from the bottom of his heart and gets crucified by the media for speaking out. Let Ben White do what he thinks best for him in this case and not what is “appropriate” to do.

    • @TheLeeBonner
      @TheLeeBonner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said! Imagine you going home from work knowing you know and your boss knows why but when you come in the next day everyone is saying you should tell everyone why you went. Absolutely not, it’s obviously a private matter and should remain so. This discussion is madness in my opinion. Nobody, no matter how privileged or famous, is obliged to discuss anything publicly unless you work in the public sector for tax payer money, then and only then should someone be obliged to explain their absence publicly.

    • @rawthentictruth
      @rawthentictruth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheLeeBonner Hahaha 🤣 You know why I’m laughing 😂? It’s always in the club’s interest to make it public but as soon as it has to do with the player, then it becomes a private matter. It’s it right that those who pay their hard earned tax dollars to follow and support a team be told exactly what’s going on instead of covering up and scapegoating someone?
      I rest my case

  • @johndev9286
    @johndev9286 ปีที่แล้ว

    The timing of these personal situations have been curious when someone gets benched...personal situations just popping up randomly while at the wc every four years

  • @yogatreeoflife
    @yogatreeoflife ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn’t agree more.

  • @rohanpatel307
    @rohanpatel307 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the words of Wayne Rooney when he got called up to the Everton first team and trained with the players, Benny Blanco probably looked at Southgate and Hollands' football know how and thought "you'se are crap".

  • @djackson2212
    @djackson2212 ปีที่แล้ว

    man these can be so stupid sometimes. It could be as simple as him finding comfort in his teammates so he is happy to be back...he doesnt need to explain anything thats personal

  • @Franklin8701
    @Franklin8701 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    James Maddison went to the World Cup with this England squad without kicking a ball even for the fact we all know he is a better player than Mason Mount, he was humble enough to stay calm on the bench, that was something White could not take, White knew very well that he was physically in good form and mentally in good shape ahead of the unfit Walker but Walker was chosen to play and start games ahead of him, so he left the bias coach and came back home, Simple.
    White would have been very useful in that England team especially when they came up against Oliver Giroud who has a great strength advantage in the air with his head.

  • @chazzmo1
    @chazzmo1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s no one’s business but his own …

  • @ERROL007
    @ERROL007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like whatever Ben posted would have been an issue even if was just a blank post with no text. This just seems like three men trying to play Inspector Morse and failing miserably. As much as I like Talksport this was just a show looking for a story.

  • @tanomsakkhacharoen1387
    @tanomsakkhacharoen1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    But when can he start posting on Instagram again? Who are you to judge him when is OK or not OK to post

  • @farhansa4546
    @farhansa4546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't realise he had left the squad

  • @theone7033
    @theone7033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He plays for the other side

  • @addeyaddey5608
    @addeyaddey5608 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the coaching team and teammates are quiet about what happened why should Ben? Please move on everyone.

  • @goonern4644
    @goonern4644 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it was a deeply personal family issue.
    England would openly give him their blessing.

    • @pasteygee71
      @pasteygee71 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He argued with one of the coaches at England I heard

    • @Redman680
      @Redman680 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It could be that Qatar are intolerant to certain things & Mr White likes to indulge in those very things. Not a judgement on him, but if he felt uncomfortable......

    • @Matt-pn1ce
      @Matt-pn1ce ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Redman680 exactly

    • @theone7033
      @theone7033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maby his gay

  • @markfromuk4812
    @markfromuk4812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Falling out with Southgate's assistant

  • @gaddafiedgar5995
    @gaddafiedgar5995 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what because Gareth Southgate been playing in those games

  • @haroldkane9714
    @haroldkane9714 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If he's come out of the closest then good luck to him

    • @RocKnRolla2471
      @RocKnRolla2471 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He ain't gay is boyfriend is vo

    • @markmorrid8144
      @markmorrid8144 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RocKnRolla2471 🤣🤣

    • @pzee9732
      @pzee9732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But why is he gae?

  • @hmq9052
    @hmq9052 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Qatar was just not Ben's kind of country. The Arsenal lads will welcome him back with open arms.

    • @Do27gg
      @Do27gg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂?

    • @davidsummer8631
      @davidsummer8631 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lifestyle choices

    • @EubulusKane3259
      @EubulusKane3259 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidsummer8631 He's still in the region mate, if your implying he's made personally uncomfortable by the local politics. And if he is, good for him.

    • @registame2878
      @registame2878 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Do27gg you and me both 🍎🍓 each to their own

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arsenal are in Qatar lmao
      Not to mention their stadium is called The Emirates Stadium lol. If this is about "principles" then do me a favour.

  • @ssmufc9941
    @ssmufc9941 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    His truth will come out soon in an 'interview' with Piers Wimfrey 😂

    • @likishowsummer5470
      @likishowsummer5470 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This not manchester united
      Your dressing room got more leaks than the roofs at old Trafford

    • @ifynna4306
      @ifynna4306 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@likishowsummer5470 haa facts

  • @azapro911
    @azapro911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it's personal and not a breach of the law, then it's none of our business if he doesn't want it to be.

  • @Creees
    @Creees ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben White probaly got unfairly forced out.
    Southgate i dont think would allow players to speak up so White was booted out

  • @tundescope
    @tundescope ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:33 disappointed by the quality of discourse here. Posting “we back…” means issue’s resolved and he’s back at training. Does he need to stay dark forever or give a press conference afterwards? C’mon guys….

  • @markchandler5095
    @markchandler5095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The story for England is their number one player choked!!! That's the story not Ben, Southgate was never going to play him because he loves who he loves and that's who he plays.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

  • @nicknackpaddywhack2159
    @nicknackpaddywhack2159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a positive for Benjamin White. He has been used the same as James Maddison in the expanded squad from 23 to 26. The 2 of them were selected through merit (as well as stopping media hounding). Once Maguire rediscovered his excellent form as a RCB, Trippier performed well as a RB and Walker became fit again for both those positions, maybe there was no need for him to stay. He was never in the FA youth team club and possibly couldn't wait for the 1 hour flight to get back with Arteta, his staff and the rest of the group
    No one mentioned Partey and Xhaka travelled earlier and separately from their national teams to Dubai. The other unusable players in the manager's eyes were thinking it's their only opportunity due to fitness (Wilson), Nicest man in football (Coady) and Maddison who is on for a move. White has 4 years left and has quickly become one of the most intelligent and adaptable defenders 25 or under in the Prem. Guy didn't even play football until his mid- late teens, he'll be called on again for an effective role. Probably in 18 months at RB/RCB at the Euros tbh.

  • @andythoms8130
    @andythoms8130 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rumours he didn't fit in made me wonder wth.

  • @leedsunitedoldschool2837
    @leedsunitedoldschool2837 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let it be 💥

  • @mkfge7
    @mkfge7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope Dean becomes a regular.

  • @GGMU100
    @GGMU100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Major own goal by white he may not like playing second fiddle to Maguire and stones or even how the coaches talk or whatever but let me tell you maguire is never far from self destruction stones is a liability and them coaches won’t be there much longer sometimes you just need to shut up and know your position

  • @vjaska
    @vjaska ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I stand by White, gives his all for my team and that's all I ask for

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dollar For Doughnuts With This One

    • @sammybeck4855
      @sammybeck4855 ปีที่แล้ว

      LFC Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber

  • @MH-so3yq
    @MH-so3yq ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it really matter…

  • @ash9556
    @ash9556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think it’s anyones business if it’s his personal reason

  • @marktallon9959
    @marktallon9959 ปีที่แล้ว

    He wasn’t going to play - he wasn’t happy - he had better things to do - he left camp - he had a nice holiday with his family - what’s the issue - most people would do the same

  • @paulallen8496
    @paulallen8496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Closed shop so no chance of being picked

  • @CampslewFitnessTraining
    @CampslewFitnessTraining ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No it's not a good point...
    U can have a reason for leaving work dat u dnt want to share..... and now ur bck at work
    ... " we back" ...
    Only the English media would see thst as something to talk about.......
    England are out.... he bck to work ... why cant he like being bck and not tell u wot happen between having to leave and going bck to work🤣🤣🤣 non topic

  • @isthatakingfisher2931
    @isthatakingfisher2931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simon get some Vicks on ya chest lad

  • @ambience2001
    @ambience2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he find texts from John Terry on his missus phone ?

  • @christophernicolson5086
    @christophernicolson5086 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben White has been open previously that he's not from a football family and doesn't really like football or watch it in his spare time. He would have suffered from the wall 2 wall football that is the world cup and the expectation that he was to geek out over his own game. That's not who Ben is and the one size fits all approach of England would have grated. I expect he will win the EPL this year and not get called up again. England want players obsessed with their own mediocrity rather than effortless winners.

  • @MrSlinxy
    @MrSlinxy ปีที่แล้ว

    At the end of the day... it's football... it's not like he's been called up to fight a war...
    It could be something personally and as simply as friend or family member has gone missing or become sick and he was not in the right frame of mind.. something that can be resolved quickly and it seems like it was as he came back for the Arsenal...
    On the flipside Raheem went home to deal with a personal matter then came back; half the comments was digging at him for doing so... personally if I was in that same situ; I would have gone home straight away to make sure that my family was ok... would I go back to the WC... who knows...

  • @anonpls5174
    @anonpls5174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently it was a medical emergency of a close family member. Not going to mention what it was here but leave him be. JFC.

    • @AJP321
      @AJP321 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've not seen that explanation anywhere. Insightful if true. Where did you get that from?

  • @isaacjacobs3785
    @isaacjacobs3785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why can't White be happy to be back at Arsenal. Its his Insta ffs !! Pathetic Talksport

  • @Therealgaz619
    @Therealgaz619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The answer is no.

  • @bridge0370
    @bridge0370 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personal reasons means that its nobody else's business... Full stop!!! Altho we want to know we do not need to know... We just have to accept that

  • @ghettojay3513
    @ghettojay3513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guess they had no content to talk about 🤔 surely there's better headlines 👀

    • @Dercudez
      @Dercudez ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I said the same thing when I read the title