I heard that the interior quality in newer VW cars have downgraded after they lost money from the diesel scandal. Is that true with the new Tiguan? Is the interior not as good as the old one?
I've been waiting for someone to make the comparison of the older and newer generation Tiquan for a long time. I would like a road comparison of both old and new generation Tiquans. That being said, I have to beg to differ with you on the looks. The new one to me looks far better all around and also looks meatier as well. I was surprised to find out from you that the suspension is perhaps firmer on the new one or perhaps less compliant on road bumps. BMW had that problem with the e-90 and had to change the shock rates to make the 2007 more compliant than the first model e90 in 2006 which had a terrible ride on rough roads and could even be jarring. Overall, I'm a big fan of Volkswagen for their innovative and ergonomic engineering approach while still offering handling and driving pleasure, nimbleness and joy at a reasonable price. Good video.
On the road I like the older one better. As far as suspension is concerned VW claims it has nothing to do with comfort, because damping is good. It's just the sound made by the adjustable suspension. I had a similar problem with Volvo XC90. Perhaps it's the same supplier. Anyway, there's no excuse for a car, which costs around 50k euro to have noisy suspension, even if it doesn't impact ride comfort.
Use your head. The engine is EXACTLY the same. The OLD one weighs LESS and the suspension is STIFFER. Which one do you THINK drives better? (HINT: its not the new one) I just got a 2016 tiguan instead of the updated one for this exact reason.
in the last mins of the video you comment on the suspension of the previous gen being better. I actually sat as passenger in a 2008 tiguan, back in 2014 and the suspension and dampening was really good, even compared to my 2006 passat i was driving at the time. I drive a GLA 2021 now and the comfort is nowhere near as good as the tiguan back then. I guess it is the setup of Merc to not want the car to bend a lot in corners with the stiffer suspension, but you really do sacrifice in comfort, especially in consecutive anomalies of the road. It could be also that back then, i was on German roads while now living in Greece (much worse roads with many potholes and bumps everywhere in the cities). Highway comfort is good though but for many cars is the same i guess. I found the new Enyaq more comfortable and think to myself that maybe i should have waited a bit..
So you get a power tailgate, big screens inside, more toys, but.... it has less space, worse suspension, and the same boot which is kind off bigger becouse you dont have a spare tire. Ofc this car, since its new gets a nice price increase from the old model.... Nice review, you should do more new vs old comparisons....
i hope you were being sarcastic, the new has more interior space (measured, not fcked up "opinions"), lighter, stiffer, technology that other brands don t even have as an option, it brakes by itself if it detects a pedestrian, autonomous driving to a certain speed, coasting capability, etc etc etc etc etc
@@jh5kl ur naming bullshit TECH. But the bottom line is, the new one has the same engine, is heavier and has a less stiff tranny. All of that less less driver experiance.
@@genogrinberg6014 you made many mistakes, the new Tiguan is bigger inside and out and weighs less,it has DSG,it has better fuel economy, does not need premium fuel, and it does not have the same engine, the new Tiguan uses a newer TSI engine which is more reliable.
+Marek Drives What trim are these Tiguans? Thanks for the comparison. I've been thinking whether I should get a 2014 Tiguan SEL or something from a newer year. Doesn't seem like there are huge difference though the 2016 one looks more high-techie and wider.
I have no idea, what SEL means by European standards. The black Tiguan is Highline (that's top trim in Europe). The beige one is who knows what, because it was imported from the Middle East.
Realistically speaking - spring. I couldn't go to the launch event, and now I'm waiting for a test car in Poland. I'll be taking a winter break from filming (bad weather), so unless they give me the car within a couple of weeks, I'm going to book a test drive late February/early March.
Alright. Thanks for the info! The new upcoming Civic looks great. What's your thoughts about it? They say it's going to be launched in may or June. Does this apply for Poland, too?
Very nice comparison. Maybe ride and comfort comparison also? Also, dont forget new vs old for other cars. Very useful to know what you really get by spending more.
As far as ride is concerned, IMO the old one is better. I spoke to VW about the issue of suspension noise in new cars. The press office claims this noise is related to Dynamic Chassis Control. Allegedly it does not impact the ride quality, just noise on bumpy roads. I beg to differ, but I will have to verify it by myself in months to come. It's hard to find a VW press car in Poland without DCC.
Mk7 golf (non-DCC) has also suspension noise. Just have to get used to that. Known problem, if it gets too loud, then people have gotten new shock absorbers. Is this MQB thing? Anyways, honest comparison old vs new is very interesting.
I don't like too big cars which chev tahoe, volkswagen tuareg and now of course new tiguan. They eats much petrol 20-25 litres. But I funner about models toyota. Old tiguan is like to fortuner while new tiguan - cruiser. A lot of diesel cars in Europe. On my place diesel only trucks. There are japan cars in Novosibirsk;)
@@Revealthereal_ First it was a diesel and and caught up in the emissions scandal, no compensation from VW. Then 3 expensive stop/start batteries in 4 years. Finally it has a "rubber problem", All suspension, engine, gearbox and drive shaft rubbers replaced at a cost of $3000 after 40,000km.Think it is a lemon. Take care and check it out before you buy.
@@zelemesve possibly, but all of that new tech doesn’t come cheap, so I guess they had to compromise somewhere to keep the price at a reasonable level, that’s just my view
@@zelemesve I can see your point, I’m not massively impressed either, but I hope that’s the only thing you didn’t like about the car as I’m about to buy one 2017 reg
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for now I would still buy the old one
The old one has a nicer look.
I heard that the interior quality in newer VW cars have downgraded after they lost money from the diesel scandal. Is that true with the new Tiguan? Is the interior not as good as the old one?
The old tiguan was coming out with the rear door electronics better in the window switches at least for the driver is better off than the new
I've been waiting for someone to make the comparison of the older and newer generation Tiquan for a long time. I would like a road comparison of both old and new generation Tiquans. That being said, I have to beg to differ with you on the looks. The new one to me looks far better all around and also looks meatier as well. I was surprised to find out from you that the suspension is perhaps firmer on the new one or perhaps less compliant on road bumps. BMW had that problem with the e-90 and had to change the shock rates to make the 2007 more compliant than the first model e90 in 2006 which had a terrible ride on rough roads and could even be jarring. Overall, I'm a big fan of Volkswagen for their innovative and ergonomic engineering approach while still offering handling and driving pleasure, nimbleness and joy at a reasonable price. Good video.
On the road I like the older one better.
As far as suspension is concerned VW claims it has nothing to do with comfort, because damping is good. It's just the sound made by the adjustable suspension. I had a similar problem with Volvo XC90. Perhaps it's the same supplier. Anyway, there's no excuse for a car, which costs around 50k euro to have noisy suspension, even if it doesn't impact ride comfort.
Vw tiguan
Use your head. The engine is EXACTLY the same. The OLD one weighs LESS and the suspension is STIFFER.
Which one do you THINK drives better?
(HINT: its not the new one)
I just got a 2016 tiguan instead of the updated one for this exact reason.
Try to take care of the sun glare next time :)
Very good comparison though.
And a car wash too.
in the last mins of the video you comment on the suspension of the previous gen being better. I actually sat as passenger in a 2008 tiguan, back in 2014 and the suspension and dampening was really good, even compared to my 2006 passat i was driving at the time. I drive a GLA 2021 now and the comfort is nowhere near as good as the tiguan back then. I guess it is the setup of Merc to not want the car to bend a lot in corners with the stiffer suspension, but you really do sacrifice in comfort, especially in consecutive anomalies of the road. It could be also that back then, i was on German roads while now living in Greece (much worse roads with many potholes and bumps everywhere in the cities). Highway comfort is good though but for many cars is the same i guess. I found the new Enyaq more comfortable and think to myself that maybe i should have waited a bit..
So you get a power tailgate, big screens inside, more toys, but.... it has less space, worse suspension, and the same boot which is kind off bigger becouse you dont have a spare tire. Ofc this car, since its new gets a nice price increase from the old model....
Nice review, you should do more new vs old comparisons....
i hope you were being sarcastic, the new has more interior space (measured, not fcked up "opinions"), lighter, stiffer, technology that other brands don t even have as an option, it brakes by itself if it detects a pedestrian, autonomous driving to a certain speed, coasting capability, etc etc etc etc etc
@@jh5kl ur naming bullshit TECH.
But the bottom line is, the new one has the same engine, is heavier and has a less stiff tranny.
All of that less less driver experiance.
The old car sold terribly in the U.S. (compared to its rivals). The new car reflects the things most Americans want.
@@genogrinberg6014 you made many mistakes, the new Tiguan is bigger inside and out and weighs less,it has DSG,it has better fuel economy, does not need premium fuel, and it does not have the same engine, the new Tiguan uses a newer TSI engine which is more reliable.
2 cars 1 shot got me hollering. But yeah love the vid
2014 won them both ^^
The newer car's boot looks small for such a big car. Yes I know it has a spare wheel underneath. it's still small.
+Marek Drives What trim are these Tiguans? Thanks for the comparison. I've been thinking whether I should get a 2014 Tiguan SEL or something from a newer year. Doesn't seem like there are huge difference though the 2016 one looks more high-techie and wider.
I have no idea, what SEL means by European standards. The black Tiguan is Highline (that's top trim in Europe). The beige one is who knows what, because it was imported from the Middle East.
Ok, thanks for the reply!
Thanks for comparison. When can we expect a review of the new Renault Scenic?
Realistically speaking - spring. I couldn't go to the launch event, and now I'm waiting for a test car in Poland. I'll be taking a winter break from filming (bad weather), so unless they give me the car within a couple of weeks, I'm going to book a test drive late February/early March.
Who wants one....
Alright. Thanks for the info!
The new upcoming Civic looks great. What's your thoughts about it? They say it's going to be launched in may or June. Does this apply for Poland, too?
nottoq I suppose it does. I haven't asked Honda about it yet.
This guy down playing the 2012. They didn't have all that shit before.. Hater. I got a 2011 and I love it. 😊 I could only imagine how a 2018 would be.
Two cars and one cup
Looks better
Very nice comparison. Maybe ride and comfort comparison also? Also, dont forget new vs old for other cars. Very useful to know what you really get by spending more.
As far as ride is concerned, IMO the old one is better. I spoke to VW about the issue of suspension noise in new cars. The press office claims this noise is related to Dynamic Chassis Control. Allegedly it does not impact the ride quality, just noise on bumpy roads. I beg to differ, but I will have to verify it by myself in months to come. It's hard to find a VW press car in Poland without DCC.
Mk7 golf (non-DCC) has also suspension noise. Just have to get used to that. Known problem, if it gets too loud, then people have gotten new shock absorbers. Is this MQB thing? Anyways, honest comparison old vs new is very interesting.
madoc Could be MQB. I'll have to listen to the LCI Golf 7, when/if I get to drive it in late winter.
madoc ;
520l is real boot of new Tiguan and 615 are only when you slide back seats all the way to front seats ,but then you cant sit on back seats
Good idea. Powerwise tho?
Any comparison with the drive and fuel consumption?
One is an old 2-litre TSI, the other is a new 2-litre TDI. No comparison to make.
The new one is much better in term of fuel economy, the old one is more sporty to drive.
Thanks
I don't like too big cars which chev tahoe, volkswagen tuareg and now of course new tiguan. They eats much petrol 20-25 litres. But I funner about models toyota. Old tiguan is like to fortuner while new tiguan - cruiser. A lot of diesel cars in Europe. On my place diesel only trucks. There are japan cars in Novosibirsk;)
Alot of petrol cars bacause very cold here in the novosibirsk. Now it's -15
Tiguan is much smaller than Touareg or Tahoe.
Old tiguan smaller theirs
2016 more big?...and what a fuel consumption for 2010?
Terrible. 12L/100 km in the city, 7-8 extra urban.
@@MarekDrives thanks
iLike. Nice video.
when is the review of seat ateca ???????
In due time.
Marek Drives ok thanks
Old one looks better
2012 better
Jeez you don’t half waffle!
Movieland
Where did u learn to speak PERFECT ENGLISH?
School :)
Had bad experience with a 2012 model.
Care to share? I’m considering buying a 2012 Tiguan.
@@Revealthereal_ First it was a diesel and and caught up in the emissions scandal, no compensation from VW. Then 3 expensive stop/start batteries in 4 years. Finally it has a "rubber problem", All suspension, engine, gearbox and drive shaft rubbers replaced at a cost of $3000 after 40,000km.Think it is a lemon. Take care and check it out before you buy.
the 2017 is soooo boring in style . hate it
New one is vary bad...
Why?
@@cassidy0284 for that money final production of indoor not on premium level. Old one better.
@@zelemesve possibly, but all of that new tech doesn’t come cheap, so I guess they had to compromise somewhere to keep the price at a reasonable level, that’s just my view
@@cassidy0284 probably but i drove new one and was not satified comparing the price...
@@zelemesve I can see your point, I’m not massively impressed either, but I hope that’s the only thing you didn’t like about the car as I’m about to buy one 2017 reg