Chandler!!! that's called a sigil! when you take the basic shape of a thing with a meaning and put it together with one or several others to make a new modified meaning! i'm so proud and you did it completely on accident!
Katherine Wilson Technically, when you use runes and combine them, you are making a bindrune xD which he indeed made by accident. A sigil uses a phrase or line turned into basic shapes and then twisted to make a seal
What I like about your videos is they are real. You make mistakes... your pieces fly off the anvil. You have the wrong tongs in your hand and can't find the ones you REALLY want... just like the rest of us!
since ur last forge talk i am now not skipping the adds i dont have alot but if waching the adds to the end puts cash in ur pocket i will wach them all day long love the vids keep up the good work
The Rune you've created by combining three standard Runes is called a "bind-rune", which, as you guessed, combines the magical energies of the individual Runes. And the rectangular shape is also how a Viking-era Rune talisman would be made, because they were usually chip-carved into pieces of wood. Very impressive! You should read a few books about the history and meaning of the Runes, because you seem to have instinctively "re-created" the simplest and most powerful form of Rune talisman!
you've created your first Bind Rune. That is what it is called when you merge a few together, that have meaning to you. You should glass enamel, or ceracoat the rune itself with the colour red. according to SOME, this colour gives the rune a life of sorts. The fact that you forged it yourself.. is just cool.
I have to admit, I was a little sceptical as to how they would turn out, but man was I an idiot. They turned out looking really nice. I reckon they will sell really well. I'd make all different runes and take a laminated sheet of the runes and their meanings with you to wherever you sell them. Nice work chandler!
Hey all, I just recently decided to read up to find out how TH-camrs make money. This is the first time Chandler has mentIoned it to my knowledge and I know he doesn't want to pander so I'll do it for him. The least you can do to support him is to watch the entire short advertisement. It makes a difference and will attract other people to advertise on his show. Our seven seconds added up by the thousands, could mean a lot to him.
i'd like to take a moment here to give you a big THANK YOU chandler :) i've always been a sword and knife collector, but always wanted to try smithing myself, your videos using the RR spikes really got my blood boiling to try it out and a few weeks ago i started to cobble up stuff and made myself a frying pan forge and give it a go... i've recently upgraded to another homemade forge made from a huge stainless steel pot... but your video's inspired and drove me to finally put some serious effort into smithing, your video's demonstrated time and time again that you don't need the fancy workshop and thousand dollar tools to pour your heart into the trade, thank you so much for all the effort you put into these video's and keep up the good work :)
You've probably already been told by someone at this point, but be careful about using stainless steel for your forge pot, as it apparently releases highly toxic fumes when sufficiently heated. (A recurring issue for welders working with stainless, I've heard)
i think you may be confusing stainless steel with galvanized steel... i've done my research on this and i couldn't find anything about issues heating stainless steel... it is used all the time for pots and pans to cook with. there is however what is called galvy fever... where fumes from galvanized steel will make you sick... but even then you need a pretty big amount of it to make you sick and the cure for it is rest, fresh air and a glass of milk :P
even so... the stainless steel is only the container and doesn't receive much heat... i put cast iron plates in a V shape inside the pot to maximize the heat and reduce my fuel usage... that is where my hot zone is located and it never actually touches the stainless steel
Ah yes, I believe you are correct, apologies for the false alarm! I double-checked to make sure and you're right, the only effect of stainless steel fumes is the usual cancer risk if inhaled repeatedly over many years, but I doubt that's much of a problem for a simple forge pot.
I really enjoy your videos Chandler and as a "modern day Viking" this one really excited me. The combination of 3 different runes that you used make an awesome Bind Rune, no bad juju at all. I'm going to share this video with one of my blacksmiths and see if he'd be interested in making something similar. Keep up the great work!
Great to see ya doing well, and I love these little pendents! I've got my first craft show coming up at the end of the month, a hunk of cable, and a little time. Think I will try to forge a few of these up. Thank you, as always, for all of the inspiration.
Just to let you know overlaying runes like you did is know as a rune stave and is common for overlaying the meanings so good on you and I really enjoy your work keep it up
Very cool. I was thinking or maybe you already thought of it. My suggestion is maybe get some off color paper and print the meaning for each rune onto a tag that way someone could give them as a gift and they having the meaning and everything right there.
two things I would like to say first. 1 you are very informative and cover a lot that other videos don't. 2, I am not a blacksmith nor am I starting but I have watched a lot of videos and done research as I would like to try. in one they worked with cable, and to help forge it and weld it they heated it first an then swilled it in a high borax solution (water and borax) so it gets in the whole thing and threw the gaps. no idea if it would help but something I saw and might help.
I suggest that you weld a rod onto each different chisel at a 90 degree angle to use as a handle and that will give you a clear view of the position of your tool. I would also dull the chisel edge a bit and round the the ends of the cutting edge. At the price point which you're looking I would forget the cable and just use hot rolled steel strapping because the pattern that you are looking for simply too fine to stand out. When I watch you work it makes me smile.
Making your own runes by overlaying existing runes is a fairly common thing historically speaking, so no worries there. In fact the term for that type of rune is called a bind rune. the Bluetooth emblem is probably the most common modern example overlaying X and B for Harold Bluetooth.
so, i believe that what you are doing with the runes was an actual thing, taking the runes that you like, about 3 i believe, and making them into one that suited you. kinda like a personal charm of sorts, and with how they all look, creatively, you could get some interesting ones, like the one you have made
Chandler, perhaps you could use something to let run in the cracks after you etch it. It would make the etch stand out more in some areas and really pronounce the patterns. You could even use some thinned paints, clear coat will protect them just fine. :)
Two thoughts for you Chandler: First: You might consider making up a bunch of blank medallions which could then be heated and glyphed for any online orders that come through. That way you you don't have to keep a stock of all of them. It wouldn't work so well for things like trade shows of course. Second: I did a short bit of research and it seems like combining runes was a thing that was done. It even has a name; "bindrune", or "bind rune" if you prefer. And from what little I read it seems that they would often be used as a sort of signature. (besides, language changes to suit the needs of those who use it so go ahead and change it as you want, just don't expect others to understand or agree with it. ;)
hi Chandler, I'd really like to get ahold of one of those necklaces. Even though you made up your own symbol, it makes sense. Thanks for what you do. Semper Fi
Ha I made the Irish runes on wood some years back, burned them in with a hot coin had about 15 of every rune with a bit of paper and a blurb. Was happy once they were done took days. Sold them for around 10$ each. A jeweler even sold them for me. I think you are on to something if it is relevant in your area.
Chandler, Try heat treating the runes before etching. I have found if you harden the metal then etch you can get a better differential look between the metals. Some strands are real hard and don't etch while the softer strands etch quicker.
I used to make cable Damascus in the 90s, if you forge weld it round, like you did here, then let it cool and grind off an 1/8 inch or so all the way around, then forge your blade from that, the pattern looks completely different. You'll see the ends of each wire instead of the sides. If looks like a bunch of little round and oval dots covering the blade.
Another thing you can do with cable is get some Inconel welding rod and knock the flux off and clean them up, then untwist The cable, (fuse one end with a torch or in the forge first so it stays together when you untwist it) then take out some cable strands in bundles about the size of your Inconel, replace those strands of cable with the Inconel welding rod and twist it all back up, then forge weld it all together and when you etch it you've got some beautiful contrast with the nickel and cable. If you make blades you've got to do a san mai sandwich with cable on the sides and a good steel for the edge because you'll get a few spots on the edge with the unhardenable nickel. Not so great for knives but it would be great for these things.
I think a set hammer would have worked to flatten out the initial test piece. One of the big flat square ones that a striker would normally hit? Use the set hammer in your tong hand and press on the piece to hold it down while you strike it with your main hammer, effectively flattening it out while you hold it down
I think you should be able to cut a piece at 45 angle on one end and then flatten the angled part over the horn so that you wind up with a teardrop horn pushed to one side and a more-or-less round slug with a teardrop at the top. Then pound the round flat while holding onto the teardrop piece. The grain at the top would be more ovoid in shape adding a little more character and maybe make it a little easier to forge.
LIKE number 700! I have some wrought iron that might be nice for making these. I need some quick easy sellers, since I tore a tendon in my hammer shoulder
Awesome videos! Have you ever made anything out of some old cam shafts, rods, pushrods etc........ ? Would love to see some. Thanks for all the videos :)
I couldn't help but wonder if you could do the runes at your shows and let people pick their own. I think that would be cool. I know my wife was looking over my shoulder and was all "I want one of those".
Okay Chandler. so 'm sitting here watching your video, and you are having trouble pinning the round rune down long enough to work it. And right behind you, I see a multitude of box end wrenches on the floor. How about drift one out the size that you want your round rune to be, grind it thin as you want the rune to be and there you go. I like the pebbled look of the end grain by the way. Keep hammering big fella, I'm learning right along with you.
I have seen mass produced cast pendants that are somewhat like those you made go for $25 or more, look at getting into some SCA or renfair events with those and some of the knives and herb choppers and you could sell a ton
it would be cool to have blanks pre forged and then let people pick their own symbol. I don't know if that would work at your shows. just an idea. keep it up!
would it be helpful to soak cable rope in something like methylated spirits prior to forge welding so that there is less crap on and in between the fibres?
I think it's fairly legit to combine runes to make personal sigils. Shouldn't have any issue there. Also, I really do like the end-grain on that cable. Would be nice to see that as an inlay, or like...hmm. I dunno. Nice though.
the blades you were trying to forge weld don't know what kind of Steel but they go to an automatic knife and a garment Factory textiles worked in a garment Factory when I was a teenager
You've basically created a bindrune, (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bind_rune), which are basically superpositions of runes (see the bluetooth logo at the bottom of that article). Historical examples I can call to mind are the Geibo-Ansuz bindrune from the Kragehul lance (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kragehul_I), as well as stacked Tiwaz bindrunes on sword blades. So your creation has some historical founding; in case you need an extra selling point at the shows!
I'm no expert, but I would think a good way to hold such a small piece in this way would be to use a flatter. The weight of it on top should help, and then you can hammer to your heart's content.
if there was a way to have finer gauge higher carbon wire between the other bunches, it would be a great pattern. but I doubt anything like that exists..
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You can combine runes to compound their meaning. It's called a bindrune. It's been done for hundreds of years.
Chandler!!! that's called a sigil! when you take the basic shape of a thing with a meaning and put it together with one or several others to make a new modified meaning! i'm so proud and you did it completely on accident!
Katherine Wilson Technically, when you use runes and combine them, you are making a bindrune xD which he indeed made by accident. A sigil uses a phrase or line turned into basic shapes and then twisted to make a seal
What I like about your videos is they are real. You make mistakes... your pieces fly off the anvil. You have the wrong tongs in your hand and can't find the ones you REALLY want... just like the rest of us!
since ur last forge talk i am now not skipping the adds i dont have alot but if waching the adds to the end puts cash in ur pocket i will wach them all day long
love the vids keep up the good work
Thanks for letting us see the prototyping! Cool to watch the process grow. Hope they sold well.
Love it, 2:08 - "get rid of all that shh..stuff on there" almost haha
The cable-pattern was COOL, go with that a LOT, definetly!
Those were cool, and indeed a definite purchase were I around... seems like a fun build to start with too!
The Rune you've created by combining three standard Runes is called a "bind-rune", which, as you guessed, combines the magical energies of the individual Runes. And the rectangular shape is also how a Viking-era Rune talisman would be made, because they were usually chip-carved into pieces of wood. Very impressive! You should read a few books about the history and meaning of the Runes, because you seem to have instinctively "re-created" the simplest and most powerful form of Rune talisman!
you've created your first Bind Rune. That is what it is called when you merge a few together, that have meaning to you. You should glass enamel, or ceracoat the rune itself with the colour red. according to SOME, this colour gives the rune a life of sorts. The fact that you forged it yourself.. is just cool.
Viking dog tags! Nice! They look really great.
The damascus pattern looks like a Petosky Stone. Very cool!
Great video, nice item to sell.
Really enjoying the learning process and developing a real appreciation for your profession :)
I have to admit, I was a little sceptical as to how they would turn out, but man was I an idiot. They turned out looking really nice. I reckon they will sell really well. I'd make all different runes and take a laminated sheet of the runes and their meanings with you to wherever you sell them. Nice work chandler!
Hey all, I just recently decided to read up to find out how TH-camrs make money. This is the first time Chandler has mentIoned it to my knowledge and I know he doesn't want to pander so I'll do it for him. The least you can do to support him is to watch the entire short advertisement. It makes a difference and will attract other people to advertise on his show. Our seven seconds added up by the thousands, could mean a lot to him.
Sweet project man. Great videos glad I found them
bruhahahahaahaahahaaha you made a horse shoe mind teaser.. haven't seen one for so long. I never thought of doing one.. thank you for the ideal sir.,
After the etching it looks like a Petoskey Stone you'd find up here in Michigan! That's awesome man! Keep up the great work!
All your work looks great man. Keep it up I still love the fire pendants you made and these look awesome too!
i'd like to take a moment here to give you a big THANK YOU chandler :) i've always been a sword and knife collector, but always wanted to try smithing myself, your videos using the RR spikes really got my blood boiling to try it out and a few weeks ago i started to cobble up stuff and made myself a frying pan forge and give it a go... i've recently upgraded to another homemade forge made from a huge stainless steel pot... but your video's inspired and drove me to finally put some serious effort into smithing, your video's demonstrated time and time again that you don't need the fancy workshop and thousand dollar tools to pour your heart into the trade, thank you so much for all the effort you put into these video's and keep up the good work :)
You've probably already been told by someone at this point, but be careful about using stainless steel for your forge pot, as it apparently releases highly toxic fumes when sufficiently heated. (A recurring issue for welders working with stainless, I've heard)
i think you may be confusing stainless steel with galvanized steel... i've done my research on this and i couldn't find anything about issues heating stainless steel... it is used all the time for pots and pans to cook with. there is however what is called galvy fever... where fumes from galvanized steel will make you sick... but even then you need a pretty big amount of it to make you sick and the cure for it is rest, fresh air and a glass of milk :P
even so... the stainless steel is only the container and doesn't receive much heat... i put cast iron plates in a V shape inside the pot to maximize the heat and reduce my fuel usage... that is where my hot zone is located and it never actually touches the stainless steel
Ah yes, I believe you are correct, apologies for the false alarm! I double-checked to make sure and you're right, the only effect of stainless steel fumes is the usual cancer risk if inhaled repeatedly over many years, but I doubt that's much of a problem for a simple forge pot.
Really like the rectangular ones... look more authentic, almost like stone.
Gotta admit it was kind of funny to see Chandler trying to flatten that little piece of steel and it just jump around.
I really enjoy your videos Chandler and as a "modern day Viking" this one really excited me. The combination of 3 different runes that you used make an awesome Bind Rune, no bad juju at all. I'm going to share this video with one of my blacksmiths and see if he'd be interested in making something similar. Keep up the great work!
looking good. The small stuff should sell good this weekend. Hope you guys both do good and sell out this weekend.
I've followed you for a yeat now I think and love what you do! There's something about watching a true artist work.
Great to see ya doing well, and I love these little pendents! I've got my first craft show coming up at the end of the month, a hunk of cable, and a little time. Think I will try to forge a few of these up. Thank you, as always, for all of the inspiration.
Wauw !! A new long Chandler vid... Gotta love it !
I would love to buy one of the square ones. They look awesome!
Just to let you know overlaying runes like you did is know as a rune stave and is common for overlaying the meanings so good on you and I really enjoy your work keep it up
Thank you for sharing your idea(s)! I was wondering how you etched the ruins... Awesome job Chandler!
wow, keep up the good work! that looked so cool!
They look great Chandler.
looks like a viking dog tag. awesome!
'Get rid of all that shhhhhhtuff that's in there' lol Great stuff my friend
Very cool. I was thinking or maybe you already thought of it. My suggestion is maybe get some off color paper and print the meaning for each rune onto a tag that way someone could give them as a gift and they having the meaning and everything right there.
amazing pattern mate, great job!
Beautiful video, Chandler.
The Rune-pendants look awesome
Excellent job sir!
If you use a flatter it prevents the piece from bouncing around like that. That's how I make mine from cross sections. Happy forging.
two things I would like to say first. 1 you are very informative and cover a lot that other videos don't. 2, I am not a blacksmith nor am I starting but I have watched a lot of videos and done research as I would like to try. in one they worked with cable, and to help forge it and weld it they heated it first an then swilled it in a high borax solution (water and borax) so it gets in the whole thing and threw the gaps. no idea if it would help but something I saw and might help.
I understand going with the long grain style for time and ease, but I really liked the end grain. It reminds me of a petoskey stone.
Awesome, I would definitely buy it!
yep what you made is called a bind rune when you add them together, good job
what you did with layering the rune symbols is what the Celts/Vikings did so you did it right anyway. no worries.
Never seen that on any runestones where I live, so.. sources on this statement please.
I suggest that you weld a rod onto each different chisel at a 90 degree angle to use as a handle and that will give you a clear view of the position of your tool. I would also dull the chisel edge a bit and round the the ends of the cutting edge. At the price point which you're looking I would forget the cable and just use hot rolled steel strapping because the pattern that you are looking for simply too fine to stand out. When I watch you work it makes me smile.
The symbol you made is called a wolfshook or wolfsangle. Looks great!
Love it, Chandler!
Making your own runes by overlaying existing runes is a fairly common thing historically speaking, so no worries there. In fact the term for that type of rune is called a bind rune. the Bluetooth emblem is probably the most common modern example overlaying X and B for Harold Bluetooth.
for surface grinding on small or flat pieces people use magnet rigs to hold it while they grind
Good job thank you sir keep up the good work and God bless
so, i believe that what you are doing with the runes was an actual thing, taking the runes that you like, about 3 i believe, and making them into one that suited you. kinda like a personal charm of sorts, and with how they all look, creatively, you could get some interesting ones, like the one you have made
U r right up my allie.....i do things like this...lol just do it and fuiger it out as u go the best way.great vid.
It looks almost like wet stone . I dig it
Chandler, perhaps you could use something to let run in the cracks after you etch it. It would make the etch stand out more in some areas and really pronounce the patterns. You could even use some thinned paints, clear coat will protect them just fine. :)
Two thoughts for you Chandler:
First: You might consider making up a bunch of blank medallions which could then be heated and glyphed for any online orders that come through. That way you you don't have to keep a stock of all of them. It wouldn't work so well for things like trade shows of course.
Second: I did a short bit of research and it seems like combining runes was a thing that was done. It even has a name; "bindrune", or "bind rune" if you prefer. And from what little I read it seems that they would often be used as a sort of signature. (besides, language changes to suit the needs of those who use it so go ahead and change it as you want, just don't expect others to understand or agree with it. ;)
hi Chandler, I'd really like to get ahold of one of those necklaces. Even though you made up your own symbol, it makes sense. Thanks for what you do. Semper Fi
Very nice... I want one!
hope we can buy (and chose the rune) those...would be awesome :D
Please start posting some more stuff to etsy! Your stuff is amazing!!!!
Ha I made the Irish runes on wood some years back, burned them in with a hot coin had about 15 of every rune with a bit of paper and a blurb. Was happy once they were done took days. Sold them for around 10$ each. A jeweler even sold them for me. I think you are on to something if it is relevant in your area.
I saw those pendants made by a smith here locally about 3 hours from you selling similar for $35 a piece. Those should sell good for ya!
great video again
Chandler, Try heat treating the runes before etching. I have found if you harden the metal then etch you can get a better differential look between the metals. Some strands are real hard and don't etch while the softer strands etch quicker.
You basically made a wolfsangle rune
Glad i'm not the only one who noticed that
Badass work as always. Cool shit dude.
the first one was amazing man I dug that pattern realy cool man
I used to make cable Damascus in the 90s, if you forge weld it round, like you did here, then let it cool and grind off an 1/8 inch or so all the way around, then forge your blade from that, the pattern looks completely different. You'll see the ends of each wire instead of the sides. If looks like a bunch of little round and oval dots covering the blade.
Another thing you can do with cable is get some Inconel welding rod and knock the flux off and clean them up, then untwist The cable, (fuse one end with a torch or in the forge first so it stays together when you untwist it) then take out some cable strands in bundles about the size of your Inconel, replace those strands of cable with the Inconel welding rod and twist it all back up, then forge weld it all together and when you etch it you've got some beautiful contrast with the nickel and cable. If you make blades you've got to do a san mai sandwich with cable on the sides and a good steel for the edge because you'll get a few spots on the edge with the unhardenable nickel. Not so great for knives but it would be great for these things.
dude that looks awsome
of course you here when I'm gone!!!!
I think a set hammer would have worked to flatten out the initial test piece. One of the big flat square ones that a striker would normally hit?
Use the set hammer in your tong hand and press on the piece to hold it down while you strike it with your main hammer, effectively flattening it out while you hold it down
I'd buy three right now.
Hey dude you could use a powerful magnet to hold runes for sanding, also give them another property. Hope you nuckle is alright
I think you should be able to cut a piece at 45 angle on one end and then flatten the angled part over the horn so that you wind up with a teardrop horn pushed to one side and a more-or-less round slug with a teardrop at the top. Then pound the round flat while holding onto the teardrop piece. The grain at the top would be more ovoid in shape adding a little more character and maybe make it a little easier to forge.
LIKE number 700! I have some wrought iron that might be nice for making these. I need some quick easy sellers, since I tore a tendon in my hammer shoulder
Awesome videos! Have you ever made anything out of some old cam shafts, rods, pushrods etc........ ? Would love to see some. Thanks for all the videos :)
chandler if you made the first pendant thicker you could have a sworl pattern on the sides and dots on front and back
Could've just put a lid on the trash can :) Another great video, Chandler.
In runic magic you can stack runes when making talismans and pendants.
I couldn't help but wonder if you could do the runes at your shows and let people pick their own. I think that would be cool.
I know my wife was looking over my shoulder and was all "I want one of those".
Hah... at about 4:10, it looks like some reallly evil red licorice!
Yes yes it does
I thought it looked like cherry hard candy. Probably tastes pretty evil too. :P
Okay Chandler. so 'm sitting here watching your video, and you are having trouble pinning the round rune down long enough to work it. And right behind you, I see a multitude of box end wrenches on the floor. How about drift one out the size that you want your round rune to be, grind it thin as you want the rune to be and there you go. I like the pebbled look of the end grain by the way. Keep hammering big fella, I'm learning right along with you.
this is good
ive been wanting to try making these with pattern welded quarters, ill end up posting a video of it if i do
I have seen mass produced cast pendants that are somewhat like those you made go for $25 or more, look at getting into some SCA or renfair events with those and some of the knives and herb choppers and you could sell a ton
I would buy one!!
Very cool........!
Runes were sometimes written as compound runes, like the one you created
it would be cool to have blanks pre forged and then let people pick their own symbol. I don't know if that would work at your shows. just an idea. keep it up!
would it be helpful to soak cable rope in something like methylated spirits prior to forge welding so that there is less crap on and in between the fibres?
Please do more stuff like this please
You may want to try doing some with Japanese Kanji as well.
I think it's fairly legit to combine runes to make personal sigils. Shouldn't have any issue there.
Also, I really do like the end-grain on that cable. Would be nice to see that as an inlay, or like...hmm. I dunno. Nice though.
Nice Viking dog tags
Horseshoes, hand grenades...and sometimes tanks.
the blades you were trying to forge weld don't know what kind of Steel but they go to an automatic knife and a garment Factory textiles worked in a garment Factory when I was a teenager
Working man's fingers.
very nice......
You've basically created a bindrune, (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bind_rune), which are basically superpositions of runes (see the bluetooth logo at the bottom of that article). Historical examples I can call to mind are the Geibo-Ansuz bindrune from the Kragehul lance (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kragehul_I), as well as stacked Tiwaz bindrunes on sword blades. So your creation has some historical founding; in case you need an extra selling point at the shows!
I'm no expert, but I would think a good way to hold such a small piece in this way would be to use a flatter. The weight of it on top should help, and then you can hammer to your heart's content.
Do you have a Flatter you could hold on the disc while you hammer?
Great idea
if there was a way to have finer gauge higher carbon wire between the other bunches, it would be a great pattern. but I doubt anything like that exists..