Subtle Signs Of Poor Work Life Balance
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- Subtle Signs Of Poor Work Life Balance - Interview Red Flags. There seems to be a theme in today's workforce. Companies can't hire fast enough, so they put more work on their current workforce. And work life balance is suffering as a result. In this video, I cover subtle signs to look for when you're interviewing for a new company.
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We have had 6 people quit over the past 3 months with no replacements hired. We are told we are not being team players, if you refuse to take on the extra work. Oh well, I am getting ready to retire, so I don't care.
Managers keep announcing how those employees are leaving for fantastic opportunities. I asked why our company isn't providing fantastic opportunities, so people don't have to elsewhere. . LOL
"I asked why our company isn't provide; fantastic opportunity, so people don't have to elsewhere." THIS. 👍🏽
be careful before they pull the plug on you before it’s time to retire
"At _Company Name_ we're a _family_ "
RUN.
I've always found that it's a good idea to drive by the company you're interested in after hours and on weekends to see how many cars are in the parking lot. A full parking lot on the weekends or evenings is a very bad sign of them having a good work/life balance.
I had an employer lead me on for 4 months. They are "so busy" and "need to get back to me on projected capacity". They want me to provide my own PC for work. They are incredibly cheap and a sweatshop. So glad I dodged that bullet.
During an interview a few years back I was asked: "So, what do you usually do when you get home?". Silly me thought they wanted to know about my hobbies and what I liked doing in my free time. WRONG. It was a tricky question to see if I was married or single, and for them to feel less guilty when assigning me overtimes almost every day. They lied to saying overtimes only when they were busy. Turns out they stared at me badly when I left on time the first day, and the second day the manager asked me why I was leaving and not "helping the team". LOL
I would have RAN away
"I like to spend my evenings at home, alone, planning acts of revenge on miserable coworkers."
@@crinkly.love-stick 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a very under-covered topic! If you have devote a fraction of your life to work, don’t let it expand beyond that fraction. Life is way too short for that.
Especially in the time of covid. I think the pandemic and being stuck at home has forced a lot of workers to re-evaluate what's important to them
Currently in this situation. Joined a job that requires ridiculous unpaid overtime and sometimes work on the weekend. 1 month in and I’m extremely burned out. I handed in my 2 weeks notice already. Life is too short to kill myself for a job.
And to incur medical expenses later leaving you in medical debt you can’t pay off
And sometimes they will put u through hell during ur last 2 weeks to make u even worse.
As a former recruiter and HR professional I'm impressed with the insight Bryan provides. He is always spot on! Thanks Bryan, and continue the great work!
I used to work for a small little medical office that had pretty high traffic for paltry wages but acceptable benefits. I was already working 5 days a week and nearly every other Saturday, and during a little pow-wow, the boss floated the idea of opening all seven days, but since we were already looking to hire, I knew additional staff wasn't part of the plan. When I made it very clear that I was absolutely not available 7 days, the boss pretty much stormed out and the meeting ended. I don't regret holding my ground in the slightest.
Was he also going to plan working 7 days straight?
I have been stuck in a job where the average work hours are 14 hrs/day and almost no weekend. This led me to have multiple stress related health disorders and burnouts. Now that I look back, all the signs you just mentioned were there during my interview process. I had to prepare a presentation and worse present it to my manager on the day of Christmas. I am so relieved that I have finally put in my notice. Wish I could have seen your video before I had joined this company. Thank you.
In private industry, full-time job after full-time job I've had required that I stay 'til the work is done. Each day I'd go in, I wouldn't know what time I could leave work. My "workday" ranged from 12 to 16 hours a day, 5 - 7 days a week. Now, if I apply for a job, I would want one that is only part time (three days a week). The only possible exception I'd make is if the job is a city, county, state or Federal job. I believe that there's zero work-life balance in private-industry full-time jobs now, unlike many, many years ago.
And of course they made sure the opposite never happened. There was NEVER such a shortage of work that you could finish early and go home after 6 hours. Right?
My direct manager recently quit for another job so in the meantime I am handling both his work and my own. When you give someone the work of 2 people, only 50% of it is going to get done. I am already working on average close to 50 hours a week. No way am I going to work 60+ hours. I'm not sorry.
I hate interview test projects. We should at least get paid for those if we’re asked to do them.
I recently took a promotion that also gave me a MUCH better work/life balance. It is gonna take a heck of a lot more money now for me to go back to how I used to work. I no longer NEED to stay late, and if I do it is planned well in advance. I am able to flex a lot of my hours into how I want them, and I am no longer stuck covering weekend issues.
Gotta say--I think your interview tips helped me land the new job!!
dude i work in construction and there are plenty of workaholics in my industry. but from my first job, i came in on time and left sharp at 5p. now at my 3rd job i come in a little late (like 10min late). and still leave early or on time. and no one said anything because work still gets done. and if our boss leaves early on friday, we all leave early. and remember work will always be there tomorrow or you won't have a job.
this channel should be better called, A Life before Quitting, because now it's more probable that you will quit your job for another than being fired. Also can you do a video regarding the growing trend of the subreddit r/antiwork?
Honestly just got a new job that I start at soon and was contacted at almost 8pm told to download an app for group chat with my bosses and coworkers and I said no I dont do that unless it’s something urgent or for an emergency. Was kinda forced into it and feel like wow my boundary is already being ignored and crossed… not a good sign.
I dont need to chat with anyone at work outside of work hours unless it’s an emergency.
My job operates 7 days a week. I asked to every other weekend off to co-parent my daughter. In short, they declined my request because “everyone was complaining about having few weekends off”. Needless to say, I’ve only been there 2 months, but I know I’m leaving soon. Of being a present father isn’t a good enough reason, I know nothing else will be also.
This is what I like about my current job. I work M-F 8:30-5, that's it.
When I became salaried I made sure with that offer and every subsequent offer with each promotion that it is specifically called out in the job offer that the salaried amount is based upon a 40 hour work week. I know some people feel the need or desire to work extra hours for free to complete the work assigned to them but I am always very clear about what I can handle and not handle in my 40 hours. Sure I will work a little bit extra here and there but I also take off early here and there so it ends up fair and work for a good company that really does appreciate work/life balance. That way if the company ever tries to expect you to work more than 40 hours regularly you can point right to your offer and say that isn't happening but depending on your personal preferences that you are more than willing to renegotiate the salary for a lot more pay to take up more of your time.
During the hiring process one often has numerous emails with a corporate recruiter and/of hiring manager. I look at timestamp on those emails. It is red flag if I am getting emails at night or on weekends. Also, often the signature of the email indicates if email is being sent from cell phone--- that plus off hours is a double-red flag.
You are right again!! I have been interviewing in the past. 1 of the company 's HR guy sent me email around 1030pm at night. During the interview, i asked the plant controller what he likes about the company. he told that they are very "competitive" and like to set goal that will stretch the employee. In accounting, this will only mean loading extra work onto accountants and run the department "lean"
So I work in the gaming industry, just finished a 8 month Contract position actually, and pretty much 90% of what you said here was true and failed in the work life balance of the last company I worked for.
Thanks for posting these videos. They're very informative.
Thank you for all your great vids!
I'm always so confused with "white collar" work environments. As a technician, I would NEVER work for free. Free work makes more free work, and if something happens I'm not on their insurance if I'm not on the clock.
The corporate environment is a$$-backwards in many other ways too. You've dodged a bullet, consider yourself lucky.
I had a recruiter reach out at 1 am from CA. Not interested.
I don’t understand how employers can get away with not paying salaried employees overtime. Coupled with expecting them to take on other peoples work without pay. It’s ridiculous. All states should be non exempt. None of this exempt bullshit. It isn’t right.
Yeah its so backwards
It's salaried exempt. Which means you're paid your salary without overtime.
Warning sign: positive reviews on glassdoor filled on weekends
Glassdoor screens out negative reviews (or it did mine, anyway; refused to post several different versions.) I recommend Indeed, instead.
Been enjoying these videos. Good info on lots of things I never really considered before. Would like to see a video on what to watch for when your manager gets fired. (Also maybe include small v big business implications).
Excellent advice!! May not always be possible to have serious conversations with existing employees unless you lurk in the parking lot. Then there's the "bait and switch". You're hired for one position, and then after you've been there awhile, the job responsibilities can change significantly under the guise of "additional job security because your existing position may be going away".
My current job as a warehouse picker got no work life balance at all. I am ready to quit one month in. I work Mon Tue Thur Fri Sat(overtime) 5:45AM to 4:30PM, for which i have to wake up at 3AM. And they have mandatory overtime after black friday until end of the year. And they give out useless points and lottery tix for people who picks up extra overtime on top of the mandatory overtime. I get off work at 4:30PM but after getting to the gym( within 1 minute from my home) it's already 5:20PM, when i get home it's already 7PM. Then i only got one hr to cook dinner and meal box for tomorrow, clean, shower. Then head to bed. I am glad i'm single with no kids, otherwise i don't think i can manage this kind of hours.
You helped me answer the question of why I am the best person for the job during the interview! I got the job offer after one interview. Thanks
Wow! This just happened to me, a corporate recruiter called on a sunday with a huge salary gig...
Very correct .. when they call you for an interview on the weekend means something is off
Great video
I disagree with the first point. I've worked the typical Monday through Friday, 9 to 5 for many years. It's a pain to schedule interviews during my working hours. You can only have so many "doctor appointments" before your boss catches on.
You’re going to have to give up your lunch break for interviews or resign ..
Posting for the alg.
I agree with all of this. I work in HR.
In my recent search in my industry a 10 hr day is 12-14 . 😑
I got all the way to nearly the end of an in-depth technical interview with a place once before I learned that they expected everyone to be at work 5 days a week, well before 7AM, and it was a half hour drive away. For a programming job. I'd have had to go to bed sometime before my little kids, which is sort of hard to do. The interview fell apart at that point. Glad I found out after not too much wasted time. Let some nearby bachelor morning person with no family take that one, not me.
Great video I worked for a CEO that believed not in work life balance but rather in worklife integration. Consider that for a second…
So after being in the newspaper business for 20+ years I decided to move over to something that can provide good income with better work life balance than the 12 to 16 hour days 6 to 7 days a week. So I came over to plumbing. Get out from behind a desk, see the family, go fishing… well good to know I didn’t pick well. It’s just as bad with equally terrible expectations. I wish my education degree I could use and be able to make a living wage. But we all know education has no money. Time to reevaluate.
The unfortunately reality is ALL jobs have terrible work life balances right now. Every one of my friends and family members have terrible work loads due to Covid. The way I deal with this issue is by refusing to work more than what's reasonable. At work, I keep a steady pace and carefully plan my day.
I don't want to work for free or unpaid overtime! Just like a customer wont pay extra for nothing in return. I would gladly consider working over 40 hours if im getting time and a half.
What if they expect to meet up after work to go to bars and stuff?
I'm not really interested into that to be honest. I have my own social life
Yes agreed! Spending 40 hours per week together is more than enough, I can’t be giving them more of my time that should be allocated to family and friends
I NEVER do that with a full group of coworkers. I only do it with 1 or 2 that I actually rock with. If my boss looks down on me for not being “social” then whatever
There is a lot of emphasis on how one wrong move such as not staying in a job long enough can destroy your resumé and prevent you from getting another job. So I’m wondering, are there any ways to overcome this? Is it possible to overcome a bad resume?
Out of curiosity, do you have a range to recommend in regards to what a good work life balance looks like? :3
If you become a worker drone for lowpay, work gets in the way of your schooling, or you make less than 50k a year working a 8-5 Monday-Friday, it's time to look for other work.
I am wary of repeated job postings. If in doubt I just ask straight out how many hours are expected from the hiring manager.
Pay special attention to the warning about recruiter or manager reaching out on unsocial hours, weekends, and holidays! If you are not the 24/7 available type, just walk away!
How do you translate your dissatisfaction with your current job's work life balance in to something palatable when describing why you're leaving your current position. Is there a way to make it NOT sound like "I'm lazy"? Is it better to just avoid the idea and focus on a different (perhaps minor) reason you're unsatisfied with your current job?
what happen after you join the company and you found out there is no work life balance? have been working for 12 hr since day one - it has been almost two months since I join - don't know what to do.
The only time its ever good to hear "We work hard, we play hard" is when Homer accidentally took Bart to a gay steel mill/dance club🤣❤
1:52 Actually, I'd consider the opposite of this to be the sign of poor work-life balance. If they're trying to recruit you, but they'll only make time for you during normal business hours, that reflects badly on how they respect other people's time. You might be working those hours! If they're expecting you to take time off or call in sick for an interview, huge red flag. They contacted you, and it's not even a sure thing that you'll want the job or get the offer! I won't entertain interview requests where the interviewer won't make time for my schedule.
As for the 1:11 one before it, it depends on which stage of the process that the recruiter is contacting me at odd hours. An initial contact should be during daylight hours at least, even if it just goes to voicemail, but again it goes back to whether they value my time and work around my availability. It's an unreasonable request for them to want me to make time for them outside my availability.
For 4:17, work-life balance aside, companies sometimes use "interview projects" to get unpaid labor out of people who think it's a real interview, then never hire anyone. If they require you to perform more than part of an hour of real work (you can decide where the cutoff is) before they decide whether to hire you, you can and should negotiate for fair payment for that labor at your consulting rate. You should also be mentally prepared to find out they were lying to you all along, and there was never really a job to interview for.
Any company where the staff is running towards the elevators at the end of the day...
So I’m currently being rehired at old job (laid off due to Covid), and she said she really needs more people working there and she wants me back on board, however she seems to be having trouble getting the the background check company to send me the email to get the digital paperwork done. Last I heard from her was November 8 when she said she just got back from vacation, sorry it’s taking so long and that she’ll be in touch soon. Do I need to be worried? It was not like this when I was first hired on but then again we’re still in the middle of a pandemic so I guess this is to be expected right?
I'd just find a new job. If she can't get stuff sorted, she doesn't want you. Do you really want to deal with that level of (at best incompetence and worst lying)?
Look for a new job. Plus they didn’t respect you enough the first time to lay you off then ask for your help to come back. My job did that to me and I told them I don’t want to comeback to help
@@se2664 well I just spent the last summer working in an un-climate-controlled warehouse as a Cleaner and I’m pretty desperate to leave. It was miserable, and the site I’ll be going back to is a fully climate-controlled corporate office building. I will consider looking elsewhere if she offers me less than $9/hour though.
Plus I just consented to background check and went and got drug tested so I’ll see how things go from here. Thanks for the heads up though
The interview outside working hours might fool people who think it's convenient if they're currently employed and find getting time off difficult.
... or they reach out to you when you're on vacation (that was scheduled months in advance) and then REQUIRE you to work for four of the five days of your vacation ...
How do you find the job posting history?
That’s when you laugh and hang up
What kind of jobs pay good (80K - 100K Canadian) that actually have a work life balance? I work 12+ hours a day for a 91K salary + bonus (~10%) with all training provided by the company and only grade 12 required, but there are more days on the + side of that 12 (34 hours straight is my longest so far) and the stress physically leaves me in pain, but where else can I get this income and have more time with my wife and children?
Oh no. I should have seen the warning signs.
I hate to come to the defense of recruiting, particularly in view of my extreme cynicism, but regarding off-hour contact times, it’s possible that the recruiter is doing this as a courtesy, thinking that it’s easier for a prospective employee to talk during non-working hours. Again, I’m cynical and doubt this is usually the case, but it is a possibility, however remote.
Your correct, it is difficult to reach prospective candidates during daytime hours, because they are at work. Another reason is a lot of millennials do not check their voicemail box or it is full. So I usually will call them after 5-6pm.
In this job search phase in my professional career, in-house recruiters have done nothing but email me outside of any time zone business hours
If they ask you like to do outside of work on weekends, there's a very good chance they aren't asking because they care, they're asking because they want you to work weekends. Do yourself a favor & tell them your weekends are full. Prob won't get the gig, but you'll thank yourself later.
HR people should work after hrs! I have never heard of HR working after hrs ha
Do you have any videos on getting jobs for people who are introverted? And when I say introverted, I mean INTROVERTED (all caps). Almost bordering on what some people may call “antisocial”. The very idea of having to socialize or go through an interview process makes them absolutely sick to their stomach to the point that it has a crippling effect on their life? They are not people-persons and they are definitely not customer-people. People for whom “starting their own business” is NOT an option. People for whom “come out of your comfort zone/just learn to be more social/seek psychiatric help or therapy” are also NOT solutions. They have tried all of these things for YEARS since jr high school and and still dealing with these issues (they are currently in their early 30’s). And yes, I’m asking for someone I know personally. Family has been taking care of them to this day. Are there any other ways to get jobs for these people without having to go through an interview or being expected to be social? Is there hope for them?
As someone on the autism spectrum (no learning difficulties) and scores between 93 and 96 on the introverted section of the personality tests, it's hard.
The way I dealt with it is this ... zero interaction before the interview - even for days. To build up that reservoir of energy which being around people takes. That gives me enough to get me through an interview. Then zero interaction afterwards .. even for days until I can deal with people again. Yes I know that scheduling that much solo time is difficult BUT without it, it's a meltdown waiting to happen.
Personally I find making sure the ongoing JOB is suitable is more difficult. I spent 20 years in customer-facing roles in offices. Now I go in, get my stuff and I'm pretty much solo all night. Heaven. So there is zero point going through the interview if you know you can't do the job itself.
As for types of jobs ... security and truck driving can be pretty solo depending on the role. I'm sure there are many others but those two come to mind and don't require 'socializing' in an office.
My very very best wishes to your friend. Been there and it SUCKS.
Have you looked into truck driving?
@ Henry Dillard Does truck driving require an interview? He doesn’t think he’ll ever be able to get a job as long as there is an interview process to get the job. Even if the job itself is a non social job. Interviews are an absolute no no for him.
@@saulreed5286 Depends on the company. Generally there's a driving assessment but not a sit down interview per se.
No time to live ur life. They'll have u work 6am to 7pm in my retail job. You'll get only 2 hours to enjoy ur life before eu have to go to bed. I'm there every day. I get 1 day off but on that day I'm so burnt out that I have no energy to do anything. This isn't right. Idk how people think this is normal.
Laziness culture
For one job, I was asked to go through several interviews, tests (personality and skill-based), and asked to develop a presentation for an internal interview (to move to a different department)....never an 8-12 hour presentation! What?
I believe it was partially an overly process orientation of a company which acquired us combined with the hiring manager wanting to be able to provide evidence why I was a better fit than someone else who was more experienced in the specific job. They also had the fact that I held other needed skills which weren't sufficiently available with the current staff.
Another thought regarding how a life/work balance issue may arise is that a leader or manager may create the imbalance due to their wanting to avoid some aspects of "real life", and it may not represent the company as a whole (but will likely represent the position).
If a company could provide me with only my current income (or even maybe less) for a 4 day x 8 hour week, that would be great...as long as it still allowed ability to learn and grow to contribute more to the company (not in the limited sense of promotion, but actual means to make more of a difference). I am almost always available for urgent issues either way.
Thanks for sharing the red flags. I particularly pay attention to the repeat job listing one. If it isn't specific to work/life balance then it is signaling another issue. Not currently looking for another job, but I keep my ear to the ground so I am not surprised by current trends/needs should I require refreshing my job hunting skills.
1. reflex able hrs ... MOST jobs from slave trader SUX - that is Y they are OPEN
Work for the federal government
Most of these things are not easily accessible. Why would an over loaded staff person tell you they are that busy if they need you to come in to help them? If I were them I would say nothing. The goal would be to bring someone in ASAP to alleviate work pressure.
But the job posting would be a good sign. How many people have they turned over in a 1 year time span for the same job.
Well I watched Jeff Bezos explain work life Balance, Heres what he said.
"If you are happy with your work, then you will be happy and energetic when you're at your home.. and when you are happy at home, you will get up and be happy at the work.. it's a circle "
Watch "they live"
Bezos is probably a ghoul:)
It's easy to "practice what you preach" when you own the company. Someone like Bezis can take all the time off they want, make a tidy profit, all while complaining about people not happy with their pay and/or work/life balance, or the "worker shortage" they created by not valuing the people that help them have their work/life balance.
Nobody should trust a word people like Bezos say. He's basically the Lizard King
Yet working at Amazon is hell on earth.
Any ideas on how to market an extremely high intelligence? I know this isn't the kind of question that will help a large amount of people; everyone likes to feel like they are smart, but most are to afraid to push to see if they actually are out of fear that they are not. The funniest part of anything you say on the matter is that no matter who hears it they will think it applies to them. The dunning-Kruger effect is extremely prevalent in America and the rampant amounts of unresolved cognitive-dissonances help perpetuate the mental illnesses that we accept as "normal".
It would really help though to have an answer to how to market intellect in the work place or if it is a lost cause.
I'd suggest approaching this from a different angle. Instead of trying to market a high intelligence to a broad audience, it's better to be the best possible fit for the specific job you're being considered for.
Careful resume strategy would be a more preferred option.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff Than you. Not quite what I wanted to hear since my resume is all over the place: I've worked in two dozen different fields, over three dozen different jobs, have degrees in tech and business, but have no specialty... but it is pretty much what I expected to hear.
You are familiar with D/K effect and the saturation of cognitive dissonance so you should probably accept that nobody can be trusted at face value. I'd say don't oversell and just find the particular job that interests or challenges you personally
Here's the problem with this video/advice. Work Life balance isn't the full aspect that people are looking for, we want Work Life balance with High pay. The High pay part takes presidents over Work Life balance for most of us because we know how shitty life is when you're broke and never want that for our spouse and children. I work in a career where i work 14+ hours a day 5 days a week and sometimes have to come in on my days off or vacation and we go on call every other weekend and I'm salary so i don't get paid extra, but i make $90k + bonus (~10%) annually and that affords my family a lot of things. I really miss my family but i grew up poor and want better for my kids.
Really disagree about the after hours segment. I used to make a point to schedule interviews at 7am or 6pm to accommodate folks from having to take a day off from a current job. I would rather meet you at 7 and leave early that day and this is not a warning sign but a sign we are flexible and care about working within your time.
You post these videos as if 9/10 jobs arent as bad as the jobs you think pertain to the topic of these videos.
No such things as work life balance . No work =no money =no life
This so so so reminds me of my first company out of college. A Fortune 500 contractor bases out of Omaha with the acronym PKS for those with an inquiring mind and a knack for google.
They required 10 hr days 7-5 and would give the cold shoulder and shun/bully if you didn’t realistically put in 12 hr days 6-6…. And demanded you work ea Saturday and occasionally Sunday. Zero OT or Comp for all of the 70-90 hour weeks. The way they strung people along was by promising stock options after 5-7 years of employment and being a coveted “stock holder”… who would retire wealthy from the company stock. It was a legal pyramid scheme & all very cult like with the true believers who militantly enforced the company “culture” and what they didn’t offer up was that the 5 year attrition rate was over 75%. All of the old stock holder management types were bitter people who were no better than slaves to the company. I left after 5 years and looking back I dodged a huge life bullet.
My advice is set up firm boundaries. Have a good work ethic and sell yourself, learn a backup trade for a fallback, continuously train and cross train and build skills and resume points, but let no one own you.
These companies that have a mercenary attitude of exploiting and predatory capitalism don’t care if they wreck your family life, if you have adrenal burnout at 40 or other health issue at all after they have used you up. They demand a 2 week notice when you quit but will lay you off by shutting down your log in & security access.
I am a libertarian and believe in the free market and mutually beneficial trade of goods and services. This is much different from predatory capitalism which exploits.