A Hairy Situation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- The plaintiff says she went to the defendant to get Senegalese braid twists in her hair and spent seven hours at the salon. The twists fell out almost right away, so she wants a refund. The defendant says she told the plaintiff the twists wouldn’t last because she had short hair.
Case: 25-151
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I agree with JM. The plaintiffs' cut and face is so pretty. Imaging having three people and still sitting in the chair seven hours? That's wild.
Not seven hours and twists they are slow braiders
Yeah I love this look on her. It’s so beautiful.
@@camarojai6832 but bad braiders because they can't grip.
Right she is like if Malcolm x had a fine ass daughter. I love her skin tone
I was going to say 2 people on my hair was 4 1/2 and they had to dry it lol
Just being realistic, no stylist giving a full refund on a 7hr job. They will only fix them, not give a full refund.
Right!!!
Yes!! We know that!
That’s true for 1-hour services too, and anything in between
She probably will lose edges with the next braid install cthu she'll learn. A good braider and business woman who still had nothing bad to say about that scammer always prospers💜 and the hair was👌
Exactly! As they should until it was a really poor job.
She knew her twists wasn't going to last on her short hair, that's why she asked. The braider should have refused that style and suggested one that would be more suitable.
Nope. She just couldn't do it. I've had shorter hair with braids that last. If the STYLIST couldn't do it she should've said so
@@biancadoss11 I was going to say that too, bc I know people with short hair, and braids.
And miss out in $180??? No ma’am, they going to braid that hair and grip the hell out it til the scalp damn near bleeding!
@@dagerldemsuga lmao
Nope the lady can't braid hair. Gripping hair is important with braiding she can't grip the hair. I know for a fact my Mom had short hair like that the braids never slipped out the braids were gorgeous. Hair is growing and she's still a customer to the braider two years later.
I think the plaintiff is gorgeous and really rocks that short hair!
The defendant is gorgeous too.
@@jennross6466 haha...that is true as well.
Yass I was thinking the same
The plaintiff looks ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS with short hair!!!!!!!
Yes. She is adorable!
Absolutely
I wonder how often her clients have issues with her work to the point where she would *allegedly* have to hang a sign that says “No Repairs After Four Days.” 🤔
that sign seems reasonable, every business has signs disclaiming liability after a set number of days or whatever criteria they use
There's absolutely nothing wrong with her sign. With braids some of them will fall out and you come back and get replaced or don't worry about it. In her line of work you definitely have to make that known.
As a braider you have to have a sign up that says something because clients try and come back to get their hair fixed after they have done things like tie their hair up which cause tension and pulling and pull the braids out themselves. That little pack of hair she had wasn’t out of the ordinary. And they looked more like crochet extensions. The judge should’ve asked her was she pulling her hair up. Her hair was probably too short but I also have had plenty of clients who choose to get their hair braided even when you tell them it’s too short and may come out. I don’t think she refused the braids and even when you’re professional doesn’t mean they can guarantee that braids will not come out on hair that’s too short. And then she wanted a full refund? Not fair to the braider who spent 7 hours to do it. Anytime I have gone into an African braid shop their are more than one braider to a head. I think she knew her hair was too short and just changed her mind. Clients try to get over on the braider a lot. You have to post a limit because they will try to come back two weeks later saying something is wrong with their hair and expecting a refund or repair. If that’s the case clients never stop coming back and getting their hair done for free. One reason I stopped braiding hair for the public. I only braid for my daughters now.
@@cynthiaprice3528 ah, ok! That makes sense that there would also be people that would abuse the services indefinitely. Thank you for that!
It's because people damage their own braids by not taking care of them and then blame the braider
I've seen way too Jamaicans braid hair that was 3 inches long that lasted 3 months with hair still intact afterwards. It's not the length of the hair it's about the grip
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Africans as well and the braids appeared a bit big they should have been smaller, there are two methods twisting from roots and braiding roots then twist she should have braided first they wouldn't have fallen out so fast
based on how the defendants hair looks i wouldn’t have went to her. also she def printed out that sign before she got to court……anywho the plaintiff looks beautiful w/ her natural hair & glasses. she’s gorgeous!!💁🏾♀️
I wasn’t pay attention but your right. By the looks of the defendant’s hair, I wouldn’t let her do my hair either 😂.
Period!!
Is all about competition natural hair verses extensions (weave )
I said the same thing lol...
What's wrong wit the defendants hair???
When I had a really short haircut, I got some Senegalese twist and had some African braiders that gripped my hair so good and it didn’t fall out. Plus I have fine, soft hair and it lasted for months. It was just too short for her to do.
Same here. Certain stylist have a "gift to grip"😅🤣and they can even braid baby hair!😂🤣😅I have used the same African Braiding Salon on and off for years and I adore them.
Exactly she can't braid that's the truth.
She just wasn't good coz her hair was long enough 🙌🏾
ThAts what i Was thinking them Africans grip yo life 😂 ain’t no way they would of fell out she must not be one of the good grippers
Exactly and She knew that, Some People!
Let’s be honest we all know it’s not about the length it’s about the grip. Unless you literally have like a buzzcut if you have the right braider it’ll last for a good amount of time and won’t fall out.
Exactly! And if the hair is that short she should put some ‘support’ hair in it to hold it in place before doing the main braid.
I’m going to echo what others have already said. The plaintiff is lovely and looks great with her short hair.
I don't believe the stylist told her those twists were going to fall out that quickly. I mean two days and 15 twists fell out?
Omg lol I’ve had my hair done by Claudine and women in her shop years ago. Overall their work was good but I do remember the last time I got my hair done I wasn’t satisfied and never went back. That sign is posted in the shop, not in bright yellow and not as big from what I remember but it’s there. I think the judge was fair and assessed this right bc from my interactions with Claudine, I believe the plaintiffs version of events.
Do you still get your hair done there?
I got faux locs when I was growing my hair out from a fade, one fell out in the bck, the nxt day another came out in the front....I txted her and I tld her that they came out....She refused to put em bck in and told me I couldnt pull em up or tug on em....I took them joints out!! I went to someone else a fews later, they startee to cme out on the last day of my vacation, I tld her I offered to put them bck in and sd thank you but its okay....I took them out while drivin hme from the airport
You should have been a witness!
Judge is right, the plaintiff is very beautiful and her hair is perfect the way it is!
If the plaintiff’s hair is too ‘short’ to keep in braids.. the defendant is not a good hairstylist
She should have refused the hairstyle. Her hair was way too short in the back. I had that issue before and for styles like that I waited until my back got long enough for it to last
I agree
The Africans could’ve gripped it 🥴
Agreed the plaintiff should’ve known herself about the grip. Mine is short like that now and I know better
@@madelynpowe8147 so they could still be sued for braiding it too tightly and ripping all her hair out??!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴 she still would be in there suing trying to get some cash!
The defendant told the judge she had two signs in the shop and brought one for court and left the other back at the shop, but when the judge questioned why there wasn't tape, or staple markings, the defendant then said "oh no, I have three of those signs" ...hmmm, sounds a little suspicious 🤔
That makes since. She said she printed out a few and the one she brought was an unused one.
Herbhait was short for braids especially at that thickness she has skills.
For short hair most stylist won’t put in twists as they will slip. Braids are always used for short hair
I believe the stylist warned her. Her deposition in court remembers me of most African braiders. Straight forward but she still was gonna take that money.
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I do too. And the plaintiff’s last comment in the hallway about the stylist not being able to do the job properly solidifies this.
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I'm glad she won. I'm so sick of some of these African braid shops. I had three situations one braider had more than 3 people working in my head and the braids fell out, another incident she was braiding my hair while eating, and the last the braids were so tight I had a tight bump over 20 years later it's still sitting on my nape. If you can't grip the hair just say that my Mom has very very short hair the woman who braids her hair did an amazing job not one braid slipped she's still a customer 2 years later.
Same situation and the judge nailed it. They do say I can do it but don’t want to give some of your money back. Now they got signs, not after 4 days but even then you may not be able to get to them then.
What is a tight bump?
That was a fun and sweet exchange with the compliments from judge to the plaintiff 💚
This is why most braiders nowadays have a requirement for clients to have 2-3 inches of hair for certain styles
She went from one copy to two copies, to three copies. Did anyone else catch that?
7hrs is too long for those kind of twists. That's the amount of time I take to undo permanent locks on my clients
I don’t expect Judge Milian to know (even though she’s watched “the Chris Rock movie” in her words lol) but all black women know if your hair is short the braids are going to come out. Most braids won’t even braid hair that short.
How short is too short for braids like that? I've always loved styles like that & would love to learn more I would also love to be able to do hair like that one day but I know hair styles like that are a whole different level then Caucasian hair or even Latin hair like mine lol
@@nekoabernathy9831 if you have caucasian hair leave it alone. those styles are too severe, let you soft hair be loose and free.
@@marilynwillett804 oh I already know that lol fine hair like that will take severe damage from styles like that, I'm just trying to learn so I can cut & style hair for other people
No it’s about the grip. I’ve had my hair shorter than the plaintiffs and had braids and twists that’s lasted over a month and I still had hair even after I took them out.
@@reneem1660 sis the length of her hair in the court room was not the length of her hair when she got the braids. In the pictures she submitted her hair was too short. A stylist can have the best grip game but as the braids loosen they will slide off if your hair isn’t long enough
Wow for the first time they got a black hair case correct! Correct and fair ruling! Who would get braids done for 7 hours straight only to have them fall out in less than a week?
And I will say this as a braider, even if the hair is short there are still ways to make the hair stay in place and hold for a long time. This woman just didn’t know how to do it.
Same thing I said.
That what I was thinking, hair glue/ bonding maybe. I'm guessing
@@toyajackson556 definitely not glue lol
There was actually a case on the People’s Court where the stylist used glue and it ruined the lady’s hair and Judge Milian ruled against the lady with the ruined hair 🤦🏾♀️
Some use rubber bands. Others start with braiding and then twist with gel.
@@sushimitten I remember that one. The lady with locs
I liked the attitude of the defendant. Seemed nice.
I have short hair and I knooooww the risks. I would never blame the stylist. My hair is short. They will fall out
Exactly. I have my hair braided now and the braider told me she’ll try to catch it. I’ve had about four braids come out in about 2 weeks but I’m not going back to complain. I knew what to expect with my hair being so short. I was just glad they could do it.
& she started by asking could she do it & she said yes... its not that she couldn't its the fact of how long they would last on that short hair.
That’s what I’m thinking especially since she did twists instead of braids
@@camarojai6832 these are supposed to start braided then turn to twists after about an inch. I’m wondering why the braider didn’t make them smaller to make them last. They’re pretty thick to be on short hair.
I understand why, but I laugh everytime Judge whips those rubber gloves out lol
These two ladies are beautiful to me!!😍👑
I agree with the Judge; the plaintiff is beautiful with her short hair and those glasses!!!
I agree with the judge. The plaintiffs hairstyle is absolutely adorable on her!
I dont usually like short hair but the judge is right, she looks very beautiful with her short hair
$180 for 7 hours?
For 3 people?
Nah knowing her hair is too short she can just let it slide, just like the twists!
I believe the defendant! One thing African Shops do is tell you your hair is short and charge extra for the style. They will definitely speak their mind about the length of her hair
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She (client) knew her hair was too short. I believe the stylist told her (client) but went against her (stylist) better judgement. So (unfortunately) she has to pay in the end.
Braiders can GRIP short hair 😅🤣 It's whether could SHE grip the short hair. Not that she wanted it to be gripped. Since it's 100% do-able.
Her hair is not too short that woman just doesn’t know how to grip💀 where are y’all growing up and living that no stylist you know can grip short hair cause that’s pathetic
I love those hair cases
I wouldn't have done the job if I could even suggest that the work won't last long.
Stylist walked right into trouble
She should have received nothing! I have been getting my hair braided and twists on 125 since the 90's. That pic alone with her edges being that short? No way she didn't know those twists could fall out. She could've gotten the perimeter redone; which is what a lot of us do in order to keep the fresh look. But C'mon?
She knew them braids was gone come out! She barely has anything to grab!
She should never have done her hair...
That's for the PROFESSIONAL to say "No, I cannot do it" ... Are you missing that?? 😳
@@TheDreamWife1 But she could do it. And did. So what are you missing? The longevity of the twists is a different story.
@@jennb45 It lasted for 4 days. Barely. Again, you're missing TECHNIQUE To be used to grip short hair 🥴 Did those Senegalese twist look braided at the beginning to you? 🤔🥲 Potentially why they slipped out so fast.
The plaintiff’s red hair is so cute! She is so beautiful!
I agree.
Alot of African braiders have several ppl braiding one person head at one time. Maybe one of the braiders didn't braid like the other ones and it caused them to fall out. I always stick with one person.
You meant one person and yes anytime I am dealing with business I try to stick with one person it's more personable since you deal with just them
Because anyones gonna sit through hours of work on her hair for it to start falling out within days.
The Defendant just didn't know what she was doing... no way should the braids be falling out a couple days later if Defendant had did the braids tight and right
Exactly! Her hair isn’t even that short
Twists though....not braids
Milan doesn’t have a clue. I most definitely believe the defendant told that lady her hair was too short but she told her to do it anyway. It happens all the time.
But she told Milan already her hair was much longer than it was now
every black person knows the braids will fall out once the hair is short....tsk
Case opens…. Looks at defendant’s hair…. Case closed
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looks like ropes coming out of her scalp.
The defendant's credibility was shot with her "no refund" sign. First she said she had two signs, then when the judge asked about staple or tape marks, she changed the number and story. If the plaintiff was one of her best customers, she should have been honest about length being a problem and been more accommodating when issues arose.
plan ahead
Im so glad I can do my own hair.
Me too 🥰👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
A REAL BRAIDER can do any hair length! I’ve seen hairstyles even do braids on people with alopecia and make it work like magic & last months ! Step ya GRIP GAME UP HUNTY
I totally agree
Exactly! Everyone in the comments calling her bald headed and saying she barely got anything to grip are so rude and disgusting and obviously don’t know anything about braiding or gripping.
That's so trueeee
One thing for sure, both ladies look fabulous
I wish I could rock the plaintiffs hair. Very cute!
I agree with Judge Milian, the plaintiff is very attractive just like she is 😍👍
Funny that the judge would say she didn't know why she was getting them because she looks so good as she is - I was thinking the same thing! Beautiful girl just as she is - nothing needed.
Judge M. is right - she's rocking her look - the Plaintiff is Beautiful!
The judge is right, the Plaintiff ROCKS that style!
All African Salons I’ve seen have No Refunds signs.
The judge and the gloves.😮People are so paranoid about germs. Have you looked on top of a ceiling fan blade?😅
Man look…the customer knew her was short yet she wanted that style because she was probably excited about getting braids. The stylist knew her hair was short BUT still did it because she wanted her MONEY.
The fact these plaintiffs really asking a CAUCASIAN woman to understand BLACK HAIR
I believe she did warn her cause I get my hair braided all the time and if a style won't be right they'll let you know and as far as the sign all braid shops have that sign ,the judge told her she doesn't believe she had the sign up she already told her it was a copy.
It is possible to twist short hair and it remain intact for a few weeks. For Senegalese twists it’s recommended that the hair is at least 3 inches in length. Stretch the hair by bloodying for added control. There are various techniques that can be used, it is just a matter of applying the right technique given the circumstances. For short hair it’s best to latch the hair with a braiding technique at least one inch from the scalp then transition into twists. This technique would keep the hair from slipping out. If the hair is latched by twisting from the scalp it will slip within the next few days as the hair begins to relax or is exposed to moisture (sweat, water, scalp oil). If the hair is less than 3 inches but the client is adamant about getting this style done, the hair can be stretched and then use the rubber band technique to create a base to latch the hair. Overall I believe the stylist lacked the proper education and communication skills to execute a successful service.
The judge was so right about her current hairstyle. She looks gorgeous with short natural hair.
Those long braids were not a good look for her at all.
I agree with the judge... She has the perfect head and face for that cut...
I used to get my hair braided all of the time in shops, and it's not uncommon for the shop to have more than one person working on your head. I didn't like that idea, but if I wanted my hair braided, and I didn't want to be sitting there for over seven hours, I just went along with it.
This case is a hard one for me, because I understand both sides of the case.
I'm a little older now, so there's no way I'd put myself through this braiding process with a shop again. I'm too busy, and too tired for this. I just cut my hair into a cute natural style, and called it a day🤣.
Marilyn suddenly decided "Black Is Beautiful". She must be reading Adrian's comments lmbao ajajajajaja
I'm pretty sure she didn't say black is beautiful. lmao
@@dianamedelezbain6382 , I didn't say she said it . 😛
Hahahahaha😂
@@payableondeath9091 , 😛😜😛😜🤣😂🤣
I don't believe the plaintiff. I think "she wanted something different " for the funeral and didn't really listen to the hairdresser, and was disappointed it didn't work out...... get a signature !
She definitely drop the ball on this one Judge . YOUR NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN WITH AFRICAN AMERICAN HAIR TO KNOW. That lady needed them braids and it’s common sense that due to her hair being so short them braids was gonna come out
Girl, “African American hair” sounds weird though. I never said my hair was “African American” a day in my life lol
@@jennzifur Maybe not yours's but mine is. I get exactly what she's saying.
Idk. Some braiders can grip short hair properly.
nobody forced her to go to that particular judge with her hair problems.
@That Tunisian Crochet Life These hairstylists don't want to turn down a dollar. JM has a saying, the cheap because expensive! 😄
There are Senegalese WIGS that exist! Why she waste everyone's time lol! She knew her hair was too damn short
The way the white lady with blonde hair was looking at the plaintiff in the beginning just kills me 😭🤣 I was laughing TOO HARD 0:17- 0:22 like DAYUUUUUM
How about not judging beautiful white women ?
@@marilynwillett804 shut up had nothing to do with her beauty! READ FIRST
Why lose one of your best clients for $180? I would’ve offered a partial refund (refund - whatever I paid the helpers) or a credit and an apology.
The problem is she got TWISTS. Twisted hair does not last as long as braids. Short hair and braids might have worked if done tightly, but short hair and twists has less of a chance. 3 strands are stronger than 2.
I think Harvey called him Kurt. Why does Kurt remind me of Doug? Just as savage😂
There's an old wives tale that says it's bad luck to have 2 or more people in your hair...I guess it's true.
Is it a Jamaican old wives tale? Cause I know that saying 😂
Thankfully there's no such thing as bad luck
5 vs. 10 hours? Yeah I’ll take the chance lol
"Too many cooks spoil the broth"
@@Tahiha I don't know where it originated from.
She knew she was bald headed and them braids was gonna come out!!
The shorter the hair the smaller they need to be . And she should’ve gotten micro braids instead of twists . Twists calls for at least 4” of hair all around . She did deserve the refund but she should’ve never gotten them to begin with . Micro Braids not twists would’ve gripped it .
I wonder how many hairdressers would actually refuse. I've seen people demanding to have it bleached, then it falls out. 🤔
The judge is right, she doesn't need those braids. She is so beautiful without all that. I don't see the reason for the fake hair. The braids took away from her already stunning looks.
She should have asked about the short hair before driving there to get this done. Plaintiff knew darn well it wasn’t going to last
Loved that smirk from the plaintiff at the end lol
She overcharge everyone $150 for 6 cornrows for kids. Never again😊
Wow that's such a low price for 7 hrs of work between 3 women. I can't even imagine
I believe the stylist told her but there is no way for her to prove it. She should have declined to do the style.
The Plaintiff really is quite stunning. I'm all about doing whatever you want with hair and makeup and nails... but I'd give a whole kidney to be so naturally beautiful!
Message to black women because I'm a black woman: please be careful of these braiding styles such as small box braids small added cornrows with braiding hair. The kanekalon hair that is used as braiding hair is known for long periods of time if kept in to literally eat away at our natural hair. Please learn to love our natural hair and do protective styling with our natural hair just trying to drop gems so we can protect and love our hair more!!!
When your best customer asks you for a refund you give them a refund
nahhh the stylist definitely told her lol
The Plaintiff has cat woman vibes, absolutely gorgeus
She couldn't do my hair, those braids r ugly
Yes!!
She's absolutely gorgeous with her current look - boss look
The judge based this on her own 'common sense' based on her white person hair, whereas it is quite usual for braids to take 7 hours or more and I am sure that the defendant did tell her that they might fall out, but I don't think even she thought they would fall out that fast, but every person who has braids put in, knows that it is too difficult with short hair, so the plaintiff must have known that and yet insisted...
Agreed.
Crazy because Milian possibly may have some African decent due to being Cuban. She should know a little bit about our hair.
I’m a hair braider and I can braid twist hair shorter than hers and it stays for longer than 3 weeks. If you can’t do it than you can’t do it, but it’s doable.
She looks fabulous as is-agree with judge M.
Judge is right she looks awesome with that short hair. I hated those twists they didn't look good on her at all
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I got micro braids in 2006, paid $210 and sat there for 10 hours. And within a week half of my braids had fallen out. I just charged it to the game.
She should’ve just asked someone she knew to re-braid them.
Edit: my hair wasn’t short like hers
That person didn’t do your hair properly. They were in a hurry to finish and skipped some steps.
@@sushimitten yeah come to find out she stopped putting the glue at the ends of the braids like about maybe halfway and only put some on closer to the front. I was mad but oh tf well. I just knew never to go back to her.
She lucked out. Most braiders aren't giving a refund on a style..that's common knowledge
IF YOU CANT GRIP, just say that!
She described the women braiding her hair as if it isn’t normal to have three women braiding your hair right as hell for 7 hours 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Don’t show out in front of “other” people.
I was thinking the same thing. Yeah she was putting on a show when she said that because girl we all know that’s normal when you getting twist or braids. She’s was phony for that.
@@Vanessa_Martinez Exactly!
I agree with the judge she has the PERFECT face for her hair and glasses soooo cute!!!
The beautician should have refused to put them in.
Totally 😝especially if there's not enough length of hair to fasten the extensions to
@@payableondeath9091 I took my daughter to a salon to have her hair straighter . She's always had medium curly hair. At the salon they refused. I said I'll sign a contract not holding you responsible. She still said no!!! Her hair well break. We didn't have it done until her hair got healthy. And it was beautiful. But she perfers the natural look. It's ok.
@@annward4149 theres always the option of a good wig while waiting...Mondo on TH-cam does good wigs styles
@@payableondeath9091 ty
One of the clients I have here said : she knows her hair short and they would have fallen out, she ain’t black.. lmao