Here it is - the FINAL Indigo Plateau Elite 4 Special Episode, meaning we are OFFICIALLY DONE KANTO! Don't forget to Comment down below to vote for what trainer we do next week and make sure to drop a Like on the vid to give it a boost! We've got 7 remaining trainers left (listed below) to cover in Phase 2 of the series. NEW CHALLENGE VIDEO COMING SOON! FOR THE TRAINERS WE'VE DONE SO FAR, CHECK OUT THE OFFICIAL TRUE POWER PLAYLIST HERE: th-cam.com/play/PLFdGupe1YxoirUsiWFGTSL4nbF4Tm1tej.html REMAINING PHASE TWO TRAINERS: Morty Chuck Pryce Clair Will Karen Silver
Hi Silph thanks for the awesome videos, don't mean to be a pain but the light level seems to be fluctuating in the video, not sure if that's intentional but I thought it should be pointed out.
It's funny, in the Proffessor Oak and Mew event that happened recently, it revealed that Agatha was Blues grandma. That likely means that once Agatha and Oak were a thing, maybe still are.
Papa Silph is keeping us FED! Thanks so much for the content and congrats on finishing up the Kanto true power saga. Gonna throw in for Clair for next weeks episode shes always been one of my favs
Due to the lower amount of pokémon in Gen 1, I view the Elite 4 as more thematic than strictly element based. Agatha's would be fear, moreso than ghosts. She uses ghosts, but Arbok and Golbat both abuse and instill fear (Arbok with its patterns, and Golbat being a bloodsucking vampire bat which drains ten ounces). Lorelei for cold (Slowbro is found in Seafoam Islands, which is a cold location) Bruno for power (Onix is a 28 foot rock snake that digs at mach speeds) Lance for draconic pokémon (they're not all dragon-type strictly, but they all have a draconic appearance)
Tᕼᕮ GᖇᕮᗩT SᗩGᕮ Oᐯᕮᖇ ᕼᕮᗩᐯᕮᑎ totally agree with this! Personally I wish Pokémon tries to do thematic gyms or thematic elite four members instead of just types
@@SMAnthonyW Same. It's why I don't write off Gen 1 despite its numerous flaws and my lack of nostalgia for it. Even if it was unintentional, gf created a world that has such rich subtext in a rather subtle and lost form of worldbuilding. The hardware limitations ended up working in its favour in a manner that can't be replicated with intent.
Thanks so much Emily! It was definitely a goal I had in mind and I couldn't be more excited to have reached it 😄 With the crazy support you guys have been showing it really makes me wonder what is possible in the future!
I find it interesting to note that before gaining a Misdreavus in FR/LG and due to the sparseness of Ghosts in Gen 1, Agatha was actually a Poison-Type E4 Member, making her the only example of an E4 and Gym Leader (Koga) sharing a type in the same game until BW2.
We actually had this happen back sooner than BW2. In Gen 2, Chuck, a Gym Leader and Bruno, an Elite 4 member were both Fighting-Type trainers in the same game.
@@SilphSpectre No problem Bro, your TH-cam videos are always top quality. Looking forward to Phase 2 which is going to be Great! And the new look definitely suits your channels future which is sure to grow even more. (Also don't worry about replying to this 2nd comment bro, replying to the first comment was really awesome, thanks mate! Really appreciate your time to reply, See you in the discord chat soon)
I think it would be a lot better if Agatha was the one who returned for the Johto games instead of Bruno. She's got a lot more personality that makes her distinguishable from the other Ghost type specialist of the game, Morty, unlike Bruno and Chuck who are basically identical. Plus, the idea of the *oldest* Elite Four member being the only one who still has their position is hilarious.
Man, this video made me realize just how few Pokemon Agatha's actually been shown to have. She's barely got 6 different Pokemon, and the alternates for her best team are literally "another Gengar" and "a Haunter that could become yet another Gengar".
I think you should do a speculative series, making what you think the ultimate teams of the protagonists could be based on in game appearances as well as static Pokémon (Sudowoodo for Gold / Kris etc) as well as giveaways like Togepi etc. Could be a cool sub-series!
8:05 It does not double the Pokémon’s base attack, it doubles the Pokémon’s attack. This can be a huge difference. At level 100, base 80 max atk is 284. Doubled that would be 568. Marowak is base 80 atk, doubled would be 160. Base 160 max atk is 460. That is over 100 point difference at level 100. That makes it around 23% greater than if it was Base atk.
Love your music choices in this vid! Awesome team build too! I'm sure you're gonna finish the Johto Gym Leaders next, but I'll put in a vote for some Hoenn leaders - how 'bout Flannery or Roxanne? They're my favorites! Keep up these awesome videos! I love what you do!
@Bruno Caruso That's why they said in gen 1. We haven't actually seen Agatha outside Gen 1 & its remakes so she probably switched to a full Ghost team afterwards, similar to how Lance switched "Dragon themed Flying-type E4 member" during Gens 1 and 2 to a full Dragon-type team in Hg/Ss's rematch battle with him as well as PWT. This isn't the only example of course, Lorelei has a Slowbro for some reason (making her *technically* a Water/Ice trainer instead of just an Ice trainer) and Bruno has 2 Onix (when he could've easily used a Primeape and Machoke or something. I get the counter picks but damn near all Fighting pokemon learn Rock Slide and several learn EQ so it's entirely unnecessary).
@Bruno Caruso Yeah, also Sabrina randomly had a Venomoth in Red/Green/Blue, even though there's plenty of Psychics, and Koga's gym trainers barely used any actual Poison pokemon for some reason. Gen 1 is bad at sticking to type themes, even when there's enough pokemon of that type to make it work lol.
It just came to my attention you’ve passed 50K subs!! Big congrats Silph 😃 keep up the great videos I absolutely love your true power series and really loved the theory you did on a professor oak a while back, for next video I would love to see Clair true power since she claims to be the best dragon master
i mentioned it with giovanni, and i'm pretty sure i'll keep mentioning it for other specialists, but it's funny how agatha's a ghost specialist, but her teams have a lot of poison types.
I’d be curious to know what is the strongest gym leader / elite 4. Like of all generations who’s the strongest electric, dragon, grass etc etc trainer and then make the strongest gym leaders and elite four. It’d be hard but interesting.
Just a note. Thick club doesn’t double the base attack stat, it doubles the actual attack stat. What that means is that if Marowak has perfect attack at lvl 100, its attack stat would be 284. After the thick club boost, it would be 568, the equivalent to base 209 attack. Huge power also functions this way
In pokemon masters, in prof oak's sync pair story he originally had a nidorino and he fought Agatha's gengar which makes me think that the first cutscene in pokemon red with gengar and nidorino is actually agatha versing oak
Just a quick note, items or abilities that double or multiply attack don't do so off of the base stat number, they double the number that's the result of it. The math works out a bit better this way, a higher number. Aside from that, nice vid!
Are older games avalible on the Nintendo Switch's digital console? Her having two Gengar gives me a thought that the developers may not have had enough time to include more Ghost Pokemon in Gen 1.
Question: If I wanted to do a casual run with this team, in a gen 4-6 game, would using the second Gengar be okay? And in a gen 3 game, the unevolved Haunter, as well? Just something I'm considering, would appreciate an answer soon!
Oh definitely! They're only not included in her best team due to Species Clause in competitive battling, but in a casual run I wouldn't say that applies. Haunter will of course not be as great as it could be without the Eviolite in earlier gens, but still a beastly team overall!
You can't be finished with Kanto without making a video about Professor Oak! We all know about that Gen 1 team Data. It might take a bit of speculation but I think it would be fun to do. What is Professor Oak's TRUE POWER please!
I didn't really see this corrected, so I'll just say it right now. You said the thick club made its base 80 attack a base 160 attack. However it doubles the Stat itself, not the base Stat. (like from a 200 regular attack Stat to a 400 regular attack Stat)
It seems like we all just called Agatha a ghost type trainer and that moniker seem to stick. However why do we never consider her actually to be a poison type trainer because that would actually cover all of the Pokemon on her team better? I get her Gengar is far more iconic than the other Pokemon on her team, but the inclusion of a wheezing in later games seems to support she's actually supposed to be more of a poison Trainor. Also she gets replaced by Koga in a way in the next game. Thoughts?
actually the atk stat is doubled not the base stat,when it comes down to it,meaning it's atk stat would be higher(ex azumarill's base atk is 50,meaning it could get to 218 as it's actual atk,doubling it would be 436 which is a higher base stat than 100,as a base stat of 100 only goes up to 328)
You said with the thick club alolan marowak a attack is effectively base 160 but that is not correct because it doubles your total stat and not your base stat. I ran some calculations to find it’s likely about to 211 base attack. Not totally sure of the numbers I came up with used ultra necrozma and mega mewtwo x to compare the rate of growth and how high attack stats would go.
Is Agatha the mother of Koga and grandmother of Janine? While she is well known for her use of ghost types (specifically Gengar) all of her Pokemon when you first face her in the Pokemon League are the poison type, the same type used by Koga and Janine in the Kanto region.
I probably sound like a broken record, but Cyrus would be an interesting one to see being the only organization leader to go for actual pokegods. Other than him Silver would be cool.
Here it is - the FINAL Indigo Plateau Elite 4 Special Episode, meaning we are OFFICIALLY DONE KANTO! Don't forget to Comment down below to vote for what trainer we do next week and make sure to drop a Like on the vid to give it a boost! We've got 7 remaining trainers left (listed below) to cover in Phase 2 of the series.
NEW CHALLENGE VIDEO COMING SOON!
FOR THE TRAINERS WE'VE DONE SO FAR, CHECK OUT THE OFFICIAL TRUE POWER PLAYLIST HERE: th-cam.com/play/PLFdGupe1YxoirUsiWFGTSL4nbF4Tm1tej.html
REMAINING PHASE TWO TRAINERS:
Morty
Chuck
Pryce
Clair
Will
Karen
Silver
Who are you and what have you done to SilphSpectre?
I've been looking forward to this, Silphspectre your new profile picture is exceptional and so is the video.
Hi Silph thanks for the awesome videos, don't mean to be a pain but the light level seems to be fluctuating in the video, not sure if that's intentional but I thought it should be pointed out.
@@BardicGM Yep it's meant to be a spooky candlelight/lightning effect for Agatha's ghost type episode 😄
@Logan Johnson Thanks so much Logan! My artist did an amazing job, definitely an upgrade from my other picture! 😁
It's funny, in the Proffessor Oak and Mew event that happened recently, it revealed that Agatha was Blues grandma. That likely means that once Agatha and Oak were a thing, maybe still are.
Or their childs had children.
@@RickTrajan fair enough...
That explains why Blue was in lavender tower. His grandma a ghost master and all.
Waitwhat?
I didn't know that!
@@ThatGuyThai he was in lavender tower cuz his raticate died
imagine if Agatha comes back as a ghost type Pokemon when she dies
Cuz that makes sense 😂
And then gets caught by phoebe
Ironicly in one of the manga she actually was a Golbat (Yes Vampire indeed)
She'll be possessed by her Mega Gengar
That’s what happens after golden bidoof killed her
What is Clair’s best possible team? Time for lance’s cousin to shine!
Meh.
Do Giovanni's abandoned son next, Silver!
I agree!
For me having remakes it should be
Starter (must be a Totodile)
Gengar
Alakazam
Crobat
Magnezone
Weavile
@@alfonsopayan09 I personally would replace his Magnezone with a Houndoom akin to one Game Freak art of him
No do ethan
Let's go with johto's dragon master Clair!
Papa Silph is keeping us FED! Thanks so much for the content and congrats on finishing up the Kanto true power saga. Gonna throw in for Clair for next weeks episode shes always been one of my favs
I would argue that Agatha is more of a Poison type elite 4 member.
Due to the lower amount of pokémon in Gen 1, I view the Elite 4 as more thematic than strictly element based.
Agatha's would be fear, moreso than ghosts. She uses ghosts, but Arbok and Golbat both abuse and instill fear (Arbok with its patterns, and Golbat being a bloodsucking vampire bat which drains ten ounces).
Lorelei for cold (Slowbro is found in Seafoam Islands, which is a cold location)
Bruno for power (Onix is a 28 foot rock snake that digs at mach speeds)
Lance for draconic pokémon (they're not all dragon-type strictly, but they all have a draconic appearance)
And Lance is a Flying type specialist
Tᕼᕮ GᖇᕮᗩT SᗩGᕮ Oᐯᕮᖇ ᕼᕮᗩᐯᕮᑎ totally agree with this! Personally I wish Pokémon tries to do thematic gyms or thematic elite four members instead of just types
@@SMAnthonyW Same. It's why I don't write off Gen 1 despite its numerous flaws and my lack of nostalgia for it. Even if it was unintentional, gf created a world that has such rich subtext in a rather subtle and lost form of worldbuilding. The hardware limitations ended up working in its favour in a manner that can't be replicated with intent.
Like Lance is flying
Let's do Claire next! Let's see how her dragon type best team is in comparison to her cousin!
I have waited for this forever! Thank you so much buddy!
For some more spooky times you should do Morty next :0
I wanna congratulate you on 50k
Thanks so much Emily! It was definitely a goal I had in mind and I couldn't be more excited to have reached it 😄 With the crazy support you guys have been showing it really makes me wonder what is possible in the future!
SilphSpectre no problem man
I feel like we should look at Clair, definitely a great example of what a dragon type gym leader should be like.
It has come!!! Thanks Silph! I’ll put my vote on Chuck, next. Throwing rocks and stuff. Dude is nuts and needs some love.
We had a fighting, ice, and ghost team recently with Kanto's elite 4. So for once I'm voting for Clair's best team.
@8balln8 killingu65 This series isn't ending anytime soon, so the order doesn't really matter.
Amazing videos! I love the lore behind Agatha and Prof. Oak's relationship! Makes me respect her more.
I appreciate my comments being shown in both lorelei and agatha’s videos. I made a lot of noise for them, thank you for this amazing work
I find it interesting to note that before gaining a Misdreavus in FR/LG and due to the sparseness of Ghosts in Gen 1, Agatha was actually a Poison-Type E4 Member, making her the only example of an E4 and Gym Leader (Koga) sharing a type in the same game until BW2.
We actually had this happen back sooner than BW2. In Gen 2, Chuck, a Gym Leader and Bruno, an Elite 4 member were both Fighting-Type trainers in the same game.
Love the series!!! I’d love to see Clair next!
First of all, congrats on achieving 50K subscribers, keep up the good work! Now, I’ll say that is about time for Wallace’s team to be revealed!
I've been looking forward to this, Silphspectre your new profile picture is exceptional and so is the video.
Ayy thanks so much Venator! Figured it was time for an upgrade haha. Glad you enjoyed this one! Can't believe we're done Kanto already
@@SilphSpectre No problem Bro, your TH-cam videos are always top quality. Looking forward to Phase 2 which is going to be Great! And the new look definitely suits your channels future which is sure to grow even more.
(Also don't worry about replying to this 2nd comment bro, replying to the first comment was really awesome, thanks mate! Really appreciate your time to reply, See you in the discord chat soon)
Blue calls Agatha "Granny" in Masters... it might be a former relationship. ;)
Probably not since its not uncommon in Japan to do that
He have been.just calling her old.
I certainly think the great rival WALLY deserves to be analyzed. Vote for him!!!
I think it would be a lot better if Agatha was the one who returned for the Johto games instead of Bruno. She's got a lot more personality that makes her distinguishable from the other Ghost type specialist of the game, Morty, unlike Bruno and Chuck who are basically identical. Plus, the idea of the *oldest* Elite Four member being the only one who still has their position is hilarious.
This reminds me how few Ghost type Pokemon there were in the first two generations. Both her and Morty didn't have enough Ghost Pokemon until gen 4.
Man, this video made me realize just how few Pokemon Agatha's actually been shown to have. She's barely got 6 different Pokemon, and the alternates for her best team are literally "another Gengar" and "a Haunter that could become yet another Gengar".
I think you should do a speculative series, making what you think the ultimate teams of the protagonists could be based on in game appearances as well as static Pokémon (Sudowoodo for Gold / Kris etc) as well as giveaways like Togepi etc. Could be a cool sub-series!
Yeah that's definitely a cool idea I've considered doing in the future! They will be like True Power spin-off episodes 😂
8:05 It does not double the Pokémon’s base attack, it doubles the Pokémon’s attack. This can be a huge difference. At level 100, base 80 max atk is 284. Doubled that would be 568. Marowak is base 80 atk, doubled would be 160. Base 160 max atk is 460. That is over 100 point difference at level 100. That makes it around 23% greater than if it was Base atk.
Love your music choices in this vid! Awesome team build too!
I'm sure you're gonna finish the Johto Gym Leaders next, but I'll put in a vote for some Hoenn leaders - how 'bout Flannery or Roxanne? They're my favorites!
Keep up these awesome videos! I love what you do!
Just came here to say that I hope no one has a problem with assuming misdreavous is a mismagius by now, it only makes sense.
Great video as always!
As always, amazing video my guy. And love the new effects in the video, they really improve the aesthetics. Keep up the great work 🔥 🔥
This series is excellent! Hope you continue making these videos :)
These videos are your true power well done as always! Bertha next? I've always felt like they were related!
Loa shows that they kinda are
I like how she's got Team Rocket's original Pokemon on her Elite 4 team.
I have a trauma with her double team gengar since I had nothing super effective, but once its taken down it is easier.
I say we either go for Silver or Morty for the next test of true power.
“Former ghost type elite 4 member”
She was a poison trainer in gen 1 lol
@Bruno Caruso That's why they said in gen 1. We haven't actually seen Agatha outside Gen 1 & its remakes so she probably switched to a full Ghost team afterwards, similar to how Lance switched "Dragon themed Flying-type E4 member" during Gens 1 and 2 to a full Dragon-type team in Hg/Ss's rematch battle with him as well as PWT.
This isn't the only example of course, Lorelei has a Slowbro for some reason (making her *technically* a Water/Ice trainer instead of just an Ice trainer) and Bruno has 2 Onix (when he could've easily used a Primeape and Machoke or something. I get the counter picks but damn near all Fighting pokemon learn Rock Slide and several learn EQ so it's entirely unnecessary).
@Bruno Caruso Yeah, also Sabrina randomly had a Venomoth in Red/Green/Blue, even though there's plenty of Psychics, and Koga's gym trainers barely used any actual Poison pokemon for some reason.
Gen 1 is bad at sticking to type themes, even when there's enough pokemon of that type to make it work lol.
I like learning the lore from this series
It just came to my attention you’ve passed 50K subs!! Big congrats Silph 😃 keep up the great videos I absolutely love your true power series and really loved the theory you did on a professor oak a while back, for next video I would love to see Clair true power since she claims to be the best dragon master
I looked over the list and Morty was skipped for Johto!! Let's check out his True Power!!
Please do the video for Clair's team!
Shout outs and awesome work! Agatha was a tricky one,
It would be interesting to do Clair next ....Also I expect to see my comment in ur next video
i mentioned it with giovanni, and i'm pretty sure i'll keep mentioning it for other specialists, but it's funny how agatha's a ghost specialist, but her teams have a lot of poison types.
very nice video!
I know it's going to be tough, but I would love to see Ethan's main team, main character of Johto region!
Amazing video! Love this series, Gardenia next plz!!!
I’d be curious to know what is the strongest gym leader / elite 4. Like of all generations who’s the strongest electric, dragon, grass etc etc trainer and then make the strongest gym leaders and elite four. It’d be hard but interesting.
Just a note. Thick club doesn’t double the base attack stat, it doubles the actual attack stat. What that means is that if Marowak has perfect attack at lvl 100, its attack stat would be 284. After the thick club boost, it would be 568, the equivalent to base 209 attack. Huge power also functions this way
Yaaas!! My favourite elite four member!!
Great videos, really enjoying your content ❤️👍
In pokemon masters, in prof oak's sync pair story he originally had a nidorino and he fought Agatha's gengar which makes me think that the first cutscene in pokemon red with gengar and nidorino is actually agatha versing oak
Next the bratty Clair please, also i can't seem to understand why she and Bertha are so similar
That idea is strictly based off design
Just a quick note, items or abilities that double or multiply attack don't do so off of the base stat number, they double the number that's the result of it. The math works out a bit better this way, a higher number. Aside from that, nice vid!
Please continue with Johto!! Morty next!! :D
Let's do Clair next! It's her time to shine now!
clair, her kingdra is a pain to deal with
I just wanna see AJ man...he was the coolest and everyone has seemed to forgotten about him!
These videos never fail to impress!
Are older games avalible on the Nintendo Switch's digital console? Her having two Gengar gives me a thought that the developers may not have had enough time to include more Ghost Pokemon in Gen 1.
I love these vids but the effect you had on the overlay where it gets darker and lighter made me think my phone was broken..
Yo was that super mario world's castle theme playing on the background? This is epic
Question: If I wanted to do a casual run with this team, in a gen 4-6 game, would using the second Gengar be okay? And in a gen 3 game, the unevolved Haunter, as well? Just something I'm considering, would appreciate an answer soon!
Oh definitely! They're only not included in her best team due to Species Clause in competitive battling, but in a casual run I wouldn't say that applies. Haunter will of course not be as great as it could be without the Eviolite in earlier gens, but still a beastly team overall!
A really interesting and different installment! ☺️ Ya gotta go with Wallace next tho jsyk
You can't be finished with Kanto without making a video about Professor Oak!
We all know about that Gen 1 team Data. It might take a bit of speculation but I think it would be fun to do.
What is Professor Oak's TRUE POWER please!
Let's give him.the me mew from Pokemon masters as well
I didn't really see this corrected, so I'll just say it right now. You said the thick club made its base 80 attack a base 160 attack. However it doubles the Stat itself, not the base Stat. (like from a 200 regular attack Stat to a 400 regular attack Stat)
It seems like we all just called Agatha a ghost type trainer and that moniker seem to stick. However why do we never consider her actually to be a poison type trainer because that would actually cover all of the Pokemon on her team better? I get her Gengar is far more iconic than the other Pokemon on her team, but the inclusion of a wheezing in later games seems to support she's actually supposed to be more of a poison Trainor. Also she gets replaced by Koga in a way in the next game. Thoughts?
actually the atk stat is doubled not the base stat,when it comes down to it,meaning it's atk stat would be higher(ex azumarill's base atk is 50,meaning it could get to 218 as it's actual atk,doubling it would be 436 which is a higher base stat than 100,as a base stat of 100 only goes up to 328)
Agatha is my favorite elite four member. Maybe I'm bias because Gengar is my favorite pokemon, but she is so cool.
YES
In games like Pokemon Stadium, Agatha has things like Venusaur
Maybe that could step in if Agatha can't have two Gengar
Please do Clair next, The ultimate waifu!! Great video btw!!
You said with the thick club alolan marowak a attack is effectively base 160 but that is not correct because it doubles your total stat and not your base stat. I ran some calculations to find it’s likely about to 211 base attack.
Not totally sure of the numbers I came up with used ultra necrozma and mega mewtwo x to compare the rate of growth and how high attack stats would go.
It's time everyone to get in new addition to indigo plateau with Will the mysterious masquerading psychic member.
Agatha the Ghost trainer?! Nay, Agatha the Poison master!
Is Agatha the mother of Koga and grandmother of Janine? While she is well known for her use of ghost types (specifically Gengar) all of her Pokemon when you first face her in the Pokemon League are the poison type, the same type used by Koga and Janine in the Kanto region.
Honourable mentions: Pokémon Stadium 1: Muk & Venasaur. Pokémon Stadium 1 rematch: Jynx, Gyarados & Alakazam.
Please do Wally's best team next. He has way too much chaaracter developement for a pokemon game. Our boy deserves it
I'd love to see an eventual video showing who would win among all these trainers. Red/Blue would probably win?
Let's go Clair!
How about Cheren of the Aspertia Gym?
Please, tell us about the cheat code that changes the starting pokemon.
What is the Unova people’s champion Alders best team.
Dragon Gym leader Clair next plz
Out of all the ghost type trainers, Agathra scares me the most.
I probably sound like a broken record, but Cyrus would be an interesting one to see being the only organization leader to go for actual pokegods. Other than him Silver would be cool.
Do Clair next!
Can Clair be next?!
What’s the True Power for Monty Ghost Gym Leader in Johto Fear them.
Let's go Claire
How about clair next?
I love these videos but I found the fact the video dims very hard to watch it strained my eyes to watch will still continue to be a loyal fan
2:45 Professor Oak was jacked.
Clair has to be next
it would be fitting if you do another Ghost type trainer..
I would like to see Morty of Ecruteak city gym..
his true power
You finally referenced the manga, yes, some more depth!
Kanto is not over.Oak and Leaf are also two notable trainers.Don't forget!Oak has a Mew.
Can you make more theory videos, they’re amazing!
do Wallace please and thank you
Pryce or Clair's true power please