The best part of this video was the father and son moments. I wish I had this chance with my dad putting car parts together. Awesome video can’t wait to get my Magnasun !
This car is a mid 11 sec machine, added 100 wheel so its near 510-520 wheel/565-580 crank. Once past 580 wheel/650 crank is where engine life drops by 65%..
The only weak spot is the rods and pistons and rings. If they ever wanted to get this thing into a 900 hp car they would have to do rods, piston rings, and high & low fuel pump. Of course heads/cam. The Lt block is stronger than the LS platform and is only limited by the VVT, which can be changed over with the heads/cam install.
@@rickybobby6605 i mean hes not wrong. it is a near 50/50 if ur shits gonna blow sooner than it should. many factors, but if ur drag racing, itll always blow faster than a daily. but a daily can still blow fast if im a "have fun with it" type of guy. stock internals only can handle so much for so long. granted, stock internals on any performance cars are usually really good, but they still tap out around the 600-800 range. that, while being at peak performance to integrity (if it was a ratio), gives us a near 50-60% life drop for people like me, 65+ for racing seriously with it constantly, and most likely 25-40% life drop for people who baby the car (which would be the right thing to do, until you upgrade your internals to handle the best tune).
Congrats on getting into the the 11's! Always fun. side note; 1/4 mph times are nice, but MPH is very helpful info too. It Lets us know what the car is probably capable of with a perfect launch. The fuzzy focus on the track runs was frustrating, but also hilarious. Great video of a fun project either way. Thank you for posting an experience that can make us all smile.
Great video. My buddy put the Edelbrock on his L99 5th gen Camaro. With engine mods and fuel adds he is sitting at 850HP at rear wheels. Granatelli did all the work.
So.... I have a 2021 Dodge Durango RT, Tow N Go - which is 99% SRT except with the 5.7 engine. A simple out-of-the-box Whipple and HP Tuners will get me around 620 crank HP. But, I got an email from Magnuson 2 weeks ago they have a new supercharger for my application. I'm on the fence between these 2! I'm reading a lot of bad things lately about Whipple on multiple auto forums - and they only offer a 1-year warranty whereas Magnuson offers a THREE (3) year warranty! *How did you make final decision on the Mag? Thanks! 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
My local hotrod shop (Lonestar Horsepower) highly recommends the Magnuson kit on 6th gen Camaros but they like Whipple on Mopar vehicles. I trust their experience with selling and installing each kit. I assume they like the fitment and power gains from the Magnuson kit on 6th gen Camaros.
I have 6th gen 2SS. The "catch can" is un-necessary. A tune is also un-necessary unless you change internals. Why did you put headers on the the car? Didn't it come with the "performance exhaust option?"
Only thing I don’t like is I wish magnunson would add valve covers to the kit which would make life easier 😂. Took me a few hours of screwing around cutting those damn covers
I would estimate 40 hours total for one person on their first time to install this kit if you have all the tools and supplies. I could probably do it again in 30 hours now that I know everything that has to be done. I highly recommend an assistant to help set the supercharger onto the engine, that is really the only step the requires two people.
And he did hit 11.2 with the SC on street tires. He's at about ZL1 power levels with 550 rwhp. I run 11.9 on street tires myself, Car in shop for Stage 2 cam, DOD delete, TCM unlock, and retune with E85. I don't expect to get 550rwhp, but, if I had to guess maybe 510-530 at best. Although the shop I took it too says 550 is doable. But I still have stock heads, so not sure they can squeeze 550 with the mods I have and a cam. Something has to give and I think it'll either be the pistons, or the fuel system on my car.
Rich kids with no skin in the game will never know the meaning/pride of "this is mine and I did it by myself". Must be nice and not knocking them, just saying.
Good job dad. You put a supercharger on a already pretty fast car. Smart. I hope your boy lives through that and is not a vegetable after a huge wreck. Your vision is great
I agree it is a lot of work and money for 100hp. Obviously this supercharger is capable of lots more flow with other supporting mods. We are considering a built motor and fuel system next that will be able to produce several hundred more ponies.
LT1s are not made for superchargers, hence the LT4. All you did was take their money and add problems for the future. You admitted yourself "you have not done this before".
This is fine for an lt1 and it's not a waste of money obviously. Some drop in pistons would be nice if you want to go for big power. I also have a 2650 with stock rods and pistons. It's been going strong for 2 years now.
@@josepineda9740 I have a 8 speed with a trans tune and I drive it everywhere. Just made a trip from VA to TX and no problems at all. I also take it to the strip and it runs a 10.8 at 120mph and I put over 30k miles on this setup.
LT1 is NOT made for much more than 620 wheel/700 crank. and infact if you have a Automatic you have to remove the cylinder deactivation which means replacing 4 weak lifters/springs, etc abd oil plugs and lastly the cam itself and crank and thats 5-6k worth of parts and labor right there. Cam swaps were easy on the LS3 but these new versions of the ole LS are complicated and require removing lots of stuff. The manual trans cars dont have the DOD but are still limited in pwer before needing a built motor.
The best part of this video was the father and son moments. I wish I had this chance with my dad putting car parts together. Awesome video can’t wait to get my Magnasun !
That's what it's all about.
Very cool! What an awesome way to spend time together and have fun while doing it!
Incredible the amount of work involved to do this.
This car is a mid 11 sec machine, added 100 wheel so its near 510-520 wheel/565-580 crank. Once past 580 wheel/650 crank is where engine life drops by 65%..
The only weak spot is the rods and pistons and rings. If they ever wanted to get this thing into a 900 hp car they would have to do rods, piston rings, and high & low fuel pump. Of course heads/cam. The Lt block is stronger than the LS platform and is only limited by the VVT, which can be changed over with the heads/cam install.
Lol. Where did you come up with this random percent? 😂🤣
@@rickybobby6605 i mean hes not wrong. it is a near 50/50 if ur shits gonna blow sooner than it should. many factors, but if ur drag racing, itll always blow faster than a daily. but a daily can still blow fast if im a "have fun with it" type of guy. stock internals only can handle so much for so long. granted, stock internals on any performance cars are usually really good, but they still tap out around the 600-800 range. that, while being at peak performance to integrity (if it was a ratio), gives us a near 50-60% life drop for people like me, 65+ for racing seriously with it constantly, and most likely 25-40% life drop for people who baby the car (which would be the right thing to do, until you upgrade your internals to handle the best tune).
Congrats on getting into the the 11's! Always fun. side note; 1/4 mph times are nice, but MPH is very helpful info too. It Lets us know what the car is probably capable of with a perfect launch.
The fuzzy focus on the track runs was frustrating, but also hilarious. Great video of a fun project either way. Thank you for posting an experience that can make us all smile.
Great video! Thank you in helping me decide what SC I want!!
Great video. My buddy put the Edelbrock on his L99 5th gen Camaro. With engine mods and fuel adds he is sitting at 850HP at rear wheels. Granatelli did all the work.
So.... I have a 2021 Dodge Durango RT, Tow N Go - which is 99% SRT except with the 5.7 engine. A simple out-of-the-box Whipple and HP Tuners will get me around 620 crank HP. But, I got an email from Magnuson 2 weeks ago they have a new supercharger for my application. I'm on the fence between these 2! I'm reading a lot of bad things lately about Whipple on multiple auto forums - and they only offer a 1-year warranty whereas Magnuson offers a THREE (3) year warranty! *How did you make final decision on the Mag? Thanks! 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
My local hotrod shop (Lonestar Horsepower) highly recommends the Magnuson kit on 6th gen Camaros but they like Whipple on Mopar vehicles. I trust their experience with selling and installing each kit. I assume they like the fitment and power gains from the Magnuson kit on 6th gen Camaros.
Great video & thx! What is the part number for the RotoFab on the Camaro w/the Magnuson ? I see they have two versions that fit.
2SS without dual mode exhaust?
We also thought it was strange. Apparently it was an option in 2020 on 2SS Camaros.
I have 6th gen 2SS. The "catch can" is un-necessary. A tune is also un-necessary unless you change internals. Why did you put headers on the the car? Didn't it come with the "performance exhaust option?"
Headers are not a performance upgrade from manufacture, only muffs.
And internals on automatics muzt be swapped to eliminate the DOD.
Most simple mods require tunes. Even headers or intake manifold or TB. Leaving a motor untuned is a good way to blow it up.
I love the wheels! Where did you get em?
Discount Tire
What all do you have to change out
Only thing I don’t like is I wish magnunson would add valve covers to the kit which would make life easier 😂. Took me a few hours of screwing around cutting those damn covers
I agree with you 100%. Cutting the OEM valve covers was a pain in the ass and I just don't like hacking up good OEM parts.
Loved y’all’s video I wish I could add a supercharger to my z28 Camaro or Chevy ss wit my dad
I would love to have my car done but I just can’t afford it 😢
Great video, love it
How long did it take to install completely?
I would estimate 40 hours total for one person on their first time to install this kit if you have all the tools and supplies. I could probably do it again in 30 hours now that I know everything that has to be done. I highly recommend an assistant to help set the supercharger onto the engine, that is really the only step the requires two people.
I’m in Odessa rn
I knew that track looked familiar
Is the block n pistons forged? Or still aluminum?
Forged or not they’d still be aluminum lol.
the 2ss is an lt1 which is not forged. The lt4 is forged which comes in the zl1.
ik the platfom lol. but i was asking did he get it forged he just bought iron pistons
I run a 11.6 all motor and 275 DR? You should be low 11’s if not 10’s. What is you MPH?
And he did hit 11.2 with the SC on street tires. He's at about ZL1 power levels with 550 rwhp.
I run 11.9 on street tires myself, Car in shop for Stage 2 cam, DOD delete, TCM unlock, and retune with E85. I don't expect to get 550rwhp, but, if I had to guess maybe 510-530 at best. Although the shop I took it too says 550 is doable. But I still have stock heads, so not sure they can squeeze 550 with the mods I have and a cam. Something has to give and I think it'll either be the pistons, or the fuel system on my car.
Do you notice the supercharger whine? Does the supercharger whine get lost with the exhaust sound?
They’re not known for their whine, they’re known for their efficiency, cooling, and most importantly POWER.
No wine at all. My son and I were both hoping for a bit of belt wine but it's almost silent and the full exhaust drowns out everything else anyway.
If you want the whine you need a cam setup with a pulley swap. 2650R setup is best for a cam.
@@bendavis35 maybe bcus of the headers
Rich kids with no skin in the game will never know the meaning/pride of "this is mine and I did it by myself". Must be nice and not knocking them, just saying.
Good job dad. You put a supercharger on a already pretty fast car. Smart. I hope your boy lives through that and is not a vegetable after a huge wreck. Your vision is great
Thanks for the parenting advice!
Lot of work for 100 hp
Hey there now, everyone knows every horsepower counts. It's all about smiles per gallon in the end 😁
car makers put in a lot of work for a 100hp miata and turned into one of the best cars ever so
I agree it is a lot of work and money for 100hp. Obviously this supercharger is capable of lots more flow with other supporting mods. We are considering a built motor and fuel system next that will be able to produce several hundred more ponies.
Drop in piston kit and fuel system.
LT1s are not made for superchargers, hence the LT4. All you did was take their money and add problems for the future. You admitted yourself "you have not done this before".
This is fine for an lt1 and it's not a waste of money obviously. Some drop in pistons would be nice if you want to go for big power. I also have a 2650 with stock rods and pistons. It's been going strong for 2 years now.
Ur not smart lol I have a 3.0 Whipple on an lt1 and it’s just fine goofy
@@TheSupermonkeymaster10 speed or 8speed or 6 speed brotha ?? Any long trips
@@josepineda9740 I have a 8 speed with a trans tune and I drive it everywhere. Just made a trip from VA to TX and no problems at all. I also take it to the strip and it runs a 10.8 at 120mph and I put over 30k miles on this setup.
LT1 is NOT made for much more than 620 wheel/700 crank. and infact if you have a Automatic you have to remove the cylinder deactivation which means replacing 4 weak lifters/springs, etc abd oil plugs and lastly the cam itself and crank and thats 5-6k worth of parts and labor right there. Cam swaps were easy on the LS3 but these new versions of the ole LS are complicated and require removing lots of stuff. The manual trans cars dont have the DOD but are still limited in pwer before needing a built motor.