Looks pretty similar to my IS 350. That is, I got used to it. It's not bad, it's just not instant either. I am glad Nissan doesn't do the BMW thing with the needle of making the needle _snap_ into place before the gear change actually happens.
The car still looks new and probably has less than a couple thousand miles on it...all modern auto transmissions now are adaptive to the drivers driving habits so i would venture to say the real owners of these cars wont complain about the shift time as once they drive for a good period of time the trans will actually speed up certain shifts to cater to that specific driver and his/her driving habits
people complaining about the shift times people, this tranny shifts in .003 seconds. none of you can shift anywhere that fast not even remotely and that puts it up there with some of the fastest transmissions out there. I think most of you are judging it by the SOUND which you will hear AFTER the shift.
Seems like Nissan put the their money in the right areas in order to make the Z fun to drive, comfortable around town, and fairly priced among its competitors. The styling is also awesome
This is a beautiful car. Hope the shortage recovers and we can get a nicely tiered market with brz sisters in 30k mark, this at 40k and supra at 50k mark, and finally corvette/Cayman at 60k. If only corvette came in a manual, I would not hesitate in buying any of these cars.
The sound of this car isn’t all too bad. I’ve seen some exhaust tunes on the red sport and they’re all really nice imo. Aftermarket for this is going to go crazy, I can’t wait.
Nissan truly outdid themselves with this new Z I think. It’s about time!! I’ll be looking at them in a couple years when prices on used vehicles level out I hope. Good job Nissan.👌🏽🔥🔥
Like the car for sure, but 50k plus seems a bit high especially when you can get a Supra 3.0 base or a Camaro 2SS 1LE for that range. A sweet spot might be a trim with performance upgrades (diff, brakes, etc) that lies between the sport and performance trim. I can forgo the leather seats and cosmetic items if I can get better brakes, diff, and exhaust. I hope Nissan will at least offer the mechanical performance parts as options for the Sport trim.
The Supra 3L begins at $55K. Why should this car cost less than those btw? 😏 The VR30 engine is great and derived from the legendary VR38 - the Queen of Imports. The styling is new and fresh; the suspension is much improved; the 9-sp auto is sourced from Mercedes and is great; the steering feel is good and better than the numb steering of the Supra; the handling is great; basically everything about it is good to great. Why should it cost less? 🤔 🙄
Don't get me wrong I think it's a good car and something to consider which I'm. But in saying that, my comment about the price stems from the fact that the Z is on a 13 plus year old platform, quality of the suspension/chassis parts seems cheaper then the Supra (granted with the wishbone suspension and other changes I'm sure the car will handle well), and an interior that has a lot of hard plastics. Additionally, not that straight line speed is everything, but it's slower then the Supra. Lastly, I referenced the base trim Supra 3L which starts at 52k and has everything the Z Performance has plus adaptive dampers and better material quality. My point was say that Nissan would sell a shit load more if they positioned the Z Performance at $47k plus based on what you're getting overall as a product. With the pricing set aside, the new Z seems like a great choice with lots of potential if you consider the aftermarket parts that will be available. I'm looking forward to seeing it and driving it when it becomes available.
How did hyundai manage to make a better automatic transmission than nissan at a lower price point lmao. Why didnt they just put the gtr dct in this? I will never get these types of decisions
Probably it have something to do with their in house production. Hyundai made a lot of in house parts which resulted in a lower production cost. For the lower price like those under 40k car, Hyundai transmission are one of the best in its class but when 50+k hits they fell behind the German in a pretty noticeable difference. But still props to their lower range like the Elantra n and possibly sonata n line if they decide to make it with limited slip diff or at least awd option
If the base has a limited slip differential as an option sure. Otherwise it’s not recommended, and it kinda is overpriced for what we are getting. Cool car nonetheless.
With all the emphasis Nissan had to make this the "Enthusiast Car", I am surprised they didn't work to have a DCT. Manual for all the people who want a manual, and a DCT for maybe the older consumer who isn't so big on manuals anymore but still wants something fun.
Just speculating about this, but I feel like those who put a dct in their sportier cars are the companies that expect to sell a majority of their cars in auto, like BMW, Hyundai, Porsche etc. Idk if this is the case with Nissan. Maybe they have one in works for the new gtr, and didn't want to spoil it and it will be a refresh upgrade for the Z? Anyway if you're going for this class of car, I highly recommend manual, it really elevates the experience.
I think Nissan said something about 60 Percent of people will buy manual and 40 buy auto so maybe they didn’t see it as the way to go? Idk tho that’s just speculation
@@LeFatalpotato more people will buy the car if you offer a good auto though. some people just dont want to shift all the time. Its obviously more preferable when you're going to do some spirited driving, but when youre just cruising or coming home from work, a manual is kind of annoying. What hyundai and VW have been doing with their DCT's has greatly improved sales of the cars, which in turn allows these companies to take risks with performance stuff. Nissan already has made DCT's before in the GTR, why not just bring that transmission over? Same with the new gr86/brz and the new WRX. those cars would be absolute monsters with DCTs but they chose to give a boring regular automatic or an absolutely horrific cvt (wtaf subaru?)
@@Stax62 yeah, there is no reason why Toyota can't make a good dct, but I don't know if subie and Nissan can afford to develop one. It would be cool if they make a new one for the new gtr and carry it over for the z, that would definitely boost sales.
@@Stax62 One particular problem with the DCT : It costs MAJOR money to properly build and produce a DCT and even more to develop one. What they should have done is get in contact and utilize the ZF 8 HP gearbox. That transmission will do almost everything a DCT will while being super smooth!
Been watching Nissan Z like 15 videos now and gotta im hooked! I just love the old school look on the outside and simple interior. Will save up and get one of this if i can.
Did you get to drive one of these in the 'sport' guise without the LSD? Massive price difference makes me wonder if it's worth it. Obviously this one is very impressive...
Beautiful car, beautiful color, but the transmission seems to let it down. Maybe a ZF would have brought some better quicker shifts instead of the in house truck trans. Shifts sounded very 'MEH'.
Most people aren't complaining about this auto transmission. Out of 40 reviews I've heard one bad review about it and thats "the smoking tire." Zf has the edge but that doesn't mean the 9 speed is bad. At the end of the day people who already planned to get the 9 speed won't change their mind based on the reviews.
Many great sports card to choose from in the U.S. sadly not in germany unless we import. Mostly germany always has thw same stuff... BMW Audi and Meecedes... alot of them are great. But i would love to see this Z and the gr86 in germany aswell... All we get is the supra because it's a bmw haha... damn shame
It doesn't have the charm the Z originally launched with many moons ago to compete with the Mustang and Camaro. I really dislike the shifter. Test drove a Pathfinder that had shifter like that and it was confusing. A few times parked and got out of car without putting gear into park. You have to push a button.
i wish they kept the VQ37 as the base engine but i'm glad Nissan still has the Z.......it's a welcome relief from the CVT-afflicted fodder they still build
The traditional auto is the way to go for a car that splits duty as a track car/daily driver. I've had cars with the dual clutch and at low speeds around town the shifts are Jerry. Not pleasant for daily driving. If you really using the car as track only get the Manuel. If it were my money the auto works well enough.
So supposedly there's now transmission issues for the automatic. I was really interested in this Z but with the recent delays and now the transmission issue... I'll just wait for 2024 mustang GT or Integra type S.
I like that is not as noisy as the other ones I have seen such as the Toyota GRs they are so noisy you can barely hear the person speaking. This one sounds more quiet and you don't hear the noise from outside. I wish the GPS was higher it's too low.
I owned a 2003 Nissan 350Z Touring edition and could not believe the handling and power from 287HP. You would hit 130mph on the backroads without effort. I cannot imagine 400HP with close to the same body weight. So many of the cosmetics are the same with just 2023 technology.
I’m curious on how the sport will drive in comparison - and if they’ll add an option for LSD bad performance exhaust to add to the sport variant and not jump $10k
How does the automatic compare to the auto in the supra? I haven't driven either but from reviews it seems the ZF auto in the supra shifts quicker even though they are both torque converter automatics.
The zf is probably the best torque converter auto in the business. So to put it in simple terms after watching 50 reviews online lol. The zf is a great transmission, this 9 speed is a good transmission. There will be transmission tunes on this very quickly for people who want more, fyi people were getting shift times of a 100 milliseconds with a Mercedes 9g transmission tune ( basically same trans) A BMW dct shifts around 80 milliseconds to put it in perspective. Also this trans can hold 700 lb of torque so it should be good for the aftermarket.
One thing all new sports cars are missing is that cockpit type center console. Always wondered why the screen couldn’t be angled towards the driver and in a better position. Would look really sweet, and be overall more useful
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in a world with lightning fast auto's I'm a bummed about the response time from paddle to shift action. Reminds me of the old tiptronic days.
Still has pretty decent response time from the paddle shifters. And way better response than the GR86/BRZ automatic (almost twice as fast!).
@@abdullaharif6455 It doesn't and it's really not
At least its a Mercedes gearbox and not a CVT 🤣
Looks pretty similar to my IS 350. That is, I got used to it. It's not bad, it's just not instant either.
I am glad Nissan doesn't do the BMW thing with the needle of making the needle _snap_ into place before the gear change actually happens.
The car still looks new and probably has less than a couple thousand miles on it...all modern auto transmissions now are adaptive to the drivers driving habits so i would venture to say the real owners of these cars wont complain about the shift time as once they drive for a good period of time the trans will actually speed up certain shifts to cater to that specific driver and his/her driving habits
The design is unbelievable. Looks retro and futuristic all at the same time. I love it.
This is the comment I was looking for, I couldn't quite articulate what I was thinking but this was it!
people complaining about the shift times
people, this tranny shifts in .003 seconds. none of you can shift anywhere that fast not even remotely and that puts it up there with some of the fastest transmissions out there.
I think most of you are judging it by the SOUND which you will hear AFTER the shift.
Its been great watching you grow man, been here since 35k, and see you almost at 1/2 a mil.
Your content is great, so getting there will be slight. 🔥🤝
Seems like Nissan put the their money in the right areas in order to make the Z fun to drive, comfortable around town, and fairly priced among its competitors. The styling is also awesome
And they actually put in a decent 9-speed automatic, too.
You know your Z
First I’ve heard of at a dealership…..marked up 73k to 130k total
This is a beautiful car. Hope the shortage recovers and we can get a nicely tiered market with brz sisters in 30k mark, this at 40k and supra at 50k mark, and finally corvette/Cayman at 60k. If only corvette came in a manual, I would not hesitate in buying any of these cars.
That will never happen
@@Carlos.Rivera the shortage will never recover or we will never get a manual corvette?
@@LeFatalpotato both, the shortage stuff is just beginning
@@tnikoli40 that's fine by me, just ordered my brz for MSRP 😆
@@tnikoli40 Shaddap! The shortage is beginning to end as the world's workforce gets back to normal.
The sound of this car isn’t all too bad. I’ve seen some exhaust tunes on the red sport and they’re all really nice imo.
Aftermarket for this is going to go crazy, I can’t wait.
I’d get the manual then with a limited slip for that. The auto leaves a whole lot to be desired.
This is such an beautiful car, and the sound is really nice as well. Nissan did a really nice job designing this car.
This and the 2011-2014 Mustangs have got to be my favorite sports coupes, they both look so retro and so modern at the same time
I love it! So proud of Nissan for getting it right.
Would of been nice to see a dual clutch transmission like the GTR has in the Z.
I would get one myself. I'm an automatic guy so this would be perfect.
I will have this car one day. Hold me to this
Nissan truly outdid themselves with this new Z I think. It’s about time!! I’ll be looking at them in a couple years when prices on used vehicles level out I hope. Good job Nissan.👌🏽🔥🔥
Like the car for sure, but 50k plus seems a bit high especially when you can get a Supra 3.0 base or a Camaro 2SS 1LE for that range. A sweet spot might be a trim with performance upgrades (diff, brakes, etc) that lies between the sport and performance trim. I can forgo the leather seats and cosmetic items if I can get better brakes, diff, and exhaust. I hope Nissan will at least offer the mechanical performance parts as options for the Sport trim.
The Supra 3L begins at $55K. Why should this car cost less than those btw? 😏 The VR30 engine is great and derived from the legendary VR38 - the Queen of Imports. The styling is new and fresh; the suspension is much improved; the 9-sp auto is sourced from Mercedes and is great; the steering feel is good and better than the numb steering of the Supra; the handling is great; basically everything about it is good to great. Why should it cost less? 🤔 🙄
And no, I'd rather get this car over a Supra 3L or Camaro SS. 😏🙄
@@ytsux9259 We got our Supra for 51,400
Don't get me wrong I think it's a good car and something to consider which I'm. But in saying that, my comment about the price stems from the fact that the Z is on a 13 plus year old platform, quality of the suspension/chassis parts seems cheaper then the Supra (granted with the wishbone suspension and other changes I'm sure the car will handle well), and an interior that has a lot of hard plastics. Additionally, not that straight line speed is everything, but it's slower then the Supra. Lastly, I referenced the base trim Supra 3L which starts at 52k and has everything the Z Performance has plus adaptive dampers and better material quality. My point was say that Nissan would sell a shit load more if they positioned the Z Performance at $47k plus based on what you're getting overall as a product.
With the pricing set aside, the new Z seems like a great choice with lots of potential if you consider the aftermarket parts that will be available. I'm looking forward to seeing it and driving it when it becomes available.
@@CP-db4rm It's a great price man. Wish you success with whatever you choose?
Its a bummer that his car doesn't have an burbles or pops on the downshifts. Exhaust doesn't sound as good as the supra.
The sweet spot on this is $40k. I'd buy that all day. Getting up there to $60k you should just get the Corvette.
Agreed… but the vette is always behind production so markups are crazy
Good luck finding a c8 for 60k
You can barely get a used C7 for 60k anymore
Unless you’re talking about a C6 or lower corvette you aren’t finding one under $60k
Cheapest corvette starts over 80k, some even start at 100k in where I live
I’m excited to see/hear the aftermarket stuff for this. Particularly ways to make the turbos loud 🤤
Swap em for z1's and tune her 👌😮💨
Nissan’s V6 engine sound so damn good.
Nice Prototype exhaust. If it’s anything like the 370z but better I want one. I rather the Nissan Z then the BMW Supra.
How did hyundai manage to make a better automatic transmission than nissan at a lower price point lmao. Why didnt they just put the gtr dct in this? I will never get these types of decisions
Probably it have something to do with their in house production. Hyundai made a lot of in house parts which resulted in a lower production cost. For the lower price like those under 40k car, Hyundai transmission are one of the best in its class but when 50+k hits they fell behind the German in a pretty noticeable difference. But still props to their lower range like the Elantra n and possibly sonata n line if they decide to make it with limited slip diff or at least awd option
Response time probably has more to do with processing speed instead of the physical gearbox itself
Pretty sure nissan is too broke to develop one
Rear sights absolutely impressive
Where in the US did you film this POV review? To me it looked like one of the more Western States like Arizona maybe.
Getting a "Night Driver" game vibe with those road spikes.
Most of me says 1LE SS. However, a bolt on tuned Z would be fun
Was thinking same. Tune this car with a few bolt ons, it will beat a Camaro
@@mirag810 needs to be more expensive than a Camaro to beat it. Who knew?
@@chabweezy9905 Z will be more fun to drive then a Camaro. Sexier too.
@@mirag810 opinions opinions
I think a manual will do justice to this car.
They also have a 6 speed manual option
Close to the 240i xdrive and the audi S3 and some others. Such a hard decision around that price point.
Odd combination with the digi-shifter and mechanical handbrake.
Only trim level that makes sense is the base with a manual. The rest are overpriced.
If the base has a limited slip differential as an option sure. Otherwise it’s not recommended, and it kinda is overpriced for what we are getting. Cool car nonetheless.
@@gtmike916 LSD is always an option aftermarket
@@bs11100010 good point.
I might go for the sport trim myself.
@@porfiriato84 just wait until people start wrecking their z’s and find an lsd from a donor
With all the emphasis Nissan had to make this the "Enthusiast Car", I am surprised they didn't work to have a DCT. Manual for all the people who want a manual, and a DCT for maybe the older consumer who isn't so big on manuals anymore but still wants something fun.
Just speculating about this, but I feel like those who put a dct in their sportier cars are the companies that expect to sell a majority of their cars in auto, like BMW, Hyundai, Porsche etc. Idk if this is the case with Nissan. Maybe they have one in works for the new gtr, and didn't want to spoil it and it will be a refresh upgrade for the Z? Anyway if you're going for this class of car, I highly recommend manual, it really elevates the experience.
I think Nissan said something about 60
Percent of people will buy manual and 40 buy auto so maybe they didn’t see it as the way to go? Idk tho that’s just speculation
@@LeFatalpotato more people will buy the car if you offer a good auto though. some people just dont want to shift all the time. Its obviously more preferable when you're going to do some spirited driving, but when youre just cruising or coming home from work, a manual is kind of annoying. What hyundai and VW have been doing with their DCT's has greatly improved sales of the cars, which in turn allows these companies to take risks with performance stuff. Nissan already has made DCT's before in the GTR, why not just bring that transmission over? Same with the new gr86/brz and the new WRX. those cars would be absolute monsters with DCTs but they chose to give a boring regular automatic or an absolutely horrific cvt (wtaf subaru?)
@@Stax62 yeah, there is no reason why Toyota can't make a good dct, but I don't know if subie and Nissan can afford to develop one. It would be cool if they make a new one for the new gtr and carry it over for the z, that would definitely boost sales.
@@Stax62 One particular problem with the DCT : It costs MAJOR money to properly build and produce a DCT and even more to develop one. What they should have done is get in contact and utilize the ZF 8 HP gearbox. That transmission will do almost everything a DCT will while being super smooth!
Early today! Was waiting for this one!
The main question is, would you trade in your brz for one of these?
That is a good question, having more power is very addictive.
Sold my gr86 after 1 month. Ultimately it was too slow for 2022 and uncomfortable
Been watching Nissan Z like 15 videos now and gotta im hooked! I just love the old school look on the outside and simple interior. Will save up and get one of this if i can.
Worth getting a z even a 300zx twin turbo is awesome the 350 and 370z are fun to drive and comfortable interior
Did you get to drive one of these in the 'sport' guise without the LSD? Massive price difference makes me wonder if it's worth it. Obviously this one is very impressive...
So if you had to choose the best $40k car what would it be, base Supra, 230i m sport, base 400z? Or I have no sense of taste Camaro LT1.
Hype for this car is dying out fast…
Alot of dreams were crushed with the 50k price tag.
I wish I was rich enough
On first impressions I didn’t like it. After watching numerous reviews I now love it. Can’t wait to see the Nismo.
Beautiful car, beautiful color, but the transmission seems to let it down. Maybe a ZF would have brought some better quicker shifts instead of the in house truck trans. Shifts sounded very 'MEH'.
Most people aren't complaining about this auto transmission. Out of 40 reviews I've heard one bad review about it and thats "the smoking tire." Zf has the edge but that doesn't mean the 9 speed is bad. At the end of the day people who already planned to get the 9 speed won't change their mind based on the reviews.
So many good choices, I'm loving it
glad nissan didn't put legendary JATCO CVT.
Supra or z which one is better?
Sooo im wondering.. Is this faster then the q50? at all..? And price wise, might aswell buy the q50 bc of the deals going on ?
yeah, it should be since it is much lighter than the q50
Man I hate living check to check
Get a degree
@@porfiriato84 they don’t do shut unless it’s for nursery
getting a degree doesn't mean anything now and days
Filmed horizontally:)
They nice cars only seen one new around town few like my roadster are here .
Many great sports card to choose from in the U.S. sadly not in germany unless we import. Mostly germany always has thw same stuff... BMW Audi and Meecedes... alot of them are great. But i would love to see this Z and the gr86 in germany aswell... All we get is the supra because it's a bmw haha... damn shame
Great videos as always
It doesn't have the charm the Z originally launched with many moons ago to compete with the Mustang and Camaro. I really dislike the shifter. Test drove a Pathfinder that had shifter like that and it was confusing. A few times parked and got out of car without putting gear into park. You have to push a button.
Yea I’m getting this car as a second car.
Applyplay is so outdated looking.
They gotta do something about that lazy transmission.
$49,000 for the new Nissan Z Performance Twin Turbo V6 is a great value compared to the $45,000 250hp Toyota Supra 2.0L Four Cylinder.
5 yrs tops in manufacturing. This is a halo tribute car. Now if Nissan will get into production mode. God, April 2023 zipp at dealers!
i wish they kept the VQ37 as the base engine but i'm glad Nissan still has the Z.......it's a welcome relief from the CVT-afflicted fodder they still build
Hi Topher, I always wanted to know what your favorite sports car that you’ve reviewed is!
GT3!
The traditional auto is the way to go for a car that splits duty as a track car/daily driver. I've had cars with the dual clutch and at low speeds around town the shifts are Jerry. Not pleasant for daily driving. If you really using the car as track only get the Manuel. If it were my money the auto works well enough.
Goddamnit I wish I got mine in blue
Oh man I hope they release a roadster version of this and I’m sold
So supposedly there's now transmission issues for the automatic. I was really interested in this Z but with the recent delays and now the transmission issue... I'll just wait for 2024 mustang GT or Integra type S.
That car uses the Mercedes 9gtronic auto
Really wish it wasn’t push start 😭
I like that is not as noisy as the other ones I have seen such as the Toyota GRs they are so noisy you can barely hear the person speaking. This one sounds more quiet and you don't hear the noise from outside. I wish the GPS was higher it's too low.
I owned a 2003 Nissan 350Z Touring edition and could not believe the handling and power from 287HP. You would hit 130mph on the backroads without effort. I cannot imagine 400HP with close to the same body weight. So many of the cosmetics are the same with just 2023 technology.
I want a car that starts in sports mode with an optional normal mode
😮😊
I’m curious on how the sport will drive in comparison - and if they’ll add an option for LSD bad performance exhaust to add to the sport variant and not jump $10k
Aftermarket LSD is about $2-3K.
Chevrolet Camaro is going away in 2024...turning into electric sedans.
A dealership in Washington is charging 130,000 for this car……..
Imo the exhaust for the vr30 is so boring. Id still take the a91
baby GTR in blue damn thats nice sport cars are fun like this better than muscle cars
What a pity this classic beauty won't come to eco-totalitarian Europe.
Topper does it hold revs and prevent auto up shift?
Yes, in sport/manual mode you can bounce off the limiter 👍
@@TheTopher thats all that matters tbh haha
The first red one to enter the US is waiting for me... Merry Christmas to me!
Has someone been washing it with sandpaper?
nissan should've shped the transmission selector after the cars shape.
At this point, if the slush box tranny ain’t a Zf, it’s trash.
you drive too slow, can't see the car's true potential
Very sad to hear all of those rattles in the interior...
damn didn't know it has launch mode nismo ftw
Anyone know if you can swap that tranny into a vq?
So excited to watch this one
You appeared in Matt Farahs video :)
What is the first song he plays called
1:00
Omg nissan z 2023 speed performance
What's up with the paint on the hood? Looked like it already had spiderwebs, super messed up?
Dude it's a press car. Meaning many other people have driven it already.
The Dash crack like the 370z ?
love that downshift response time
5:38 that drift was clean af lol.
How does the automatic compare to the auto in the supra? I haven't driven either but from reviews it seems the ZF auto in the supra shifts quicker even though they are both torque converter automatics.
The zf is probably the best torque converter auto in the business. So to put it in simple terms after watching 50 reviews online lol. The zf is a great transmission, this 9 speed is a good transmission. There will be transmission tunes on this very quickly for people who want more, fyi people were getting shift times of a 100 milliseconds with a Mercedes 9g transmission tune ( basically same trans) A BMW dct shifts around 80 milliseconds to put it in perspective. Also this trans can hold 700 lb of torque so it should be good for the aftermarket.
What a sound....what a car....i love it😍♥️
How much to auto insure it in Mi?
Witch one u prefer between this and the supra 3.0?
One thing all new sports cars are missing is that cockpit type center console. Always wondered why the screen couldn’t be angled towards the driver and in a better position. Would look really sweet, and be overall more useful
What’s the name of the music you use on the sound test?
Mercedes
As long its not a Renault engine...
Where is this? Looks like a great place to drive
I like the style of this car and the transmission and the gears and the sound of the radio
is the steering wheel off center?