Night Owl Hard drive replacement
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- This demonstrates the process of replacing the hard drive on a Night Owl DVR. The Night Owl 1080P security camera DVR is being upgraded to a larger hard drive. Note: When upgrading the Night Owl always do you research. This improves the possibility of success. I cannot guarantee compatibility between various DVRs and Hard drive combinations. The hard drive used in the video uses SMR recording method. SMR is used by manufactures to cram more space on hard drive. Unfortunately under some conditions this can adversely slowdown the write process. A much better hard drive uses the CMR write method.
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THANK YOU for producing this video! A couple of weeks ago, started seeing the "Disk Error - Unformat?" on mine; a couple of days ago, picked up a 2 TB Seagate 3.5" BarraCuda SATA drive for $50 at Best Buy. Just installed it tonight using your procedure; only hassle I had was getting the mounting screws started into the new HDD, finally got them started after a few minutes of fussing. My lid ribbon cable was in a slightly differnt location on the main PCB, probably a production variation from Nite Owl. Formatting went as you described, back up & running! :)
Just did mine step by step and everything came out perfectlyfine. Thank you for this video have been looking for one like this for a long time👍👍👍
Thanks for the Video! That was easy. In my case, I got a cheap SATA III 2.5" 1T SSD because I wanted the unit to be quiet (BTW SATA III is the same thing as SATA 6.0 Gb/s). NOTE: a 2.5" hard drive fits in the Night Owl chassis just fine, there are holes predrilled for a 2.5" drive, you just need to make sure you have screws that fit the 2.5" drive because those screws are smaller than the ones for 3.5" drives. Thanks again!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! This video was very helpful. I purchased my hard drive from Walmart. Great training.
This helped a lot! Thank you for doing this 👍
Thank you so much!! Great video
Since the USB port is on the back of the DVR. Getting a type A USB extension cable to extend the port around to the front will make it easier to copy video to a jump drive. A flash drive and jump drive are basically the same thing.
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to do a walk through on your upgrade. I did the same on my Night Owl device and it seems to being running a lot faster/smoother. My previous HDD failed, so I needed to replace it. I'm not quite ready to upgrade my entire camera system yet. I've had it since 2016. I know technology, devices and cameras are a lot better now, but I'll wait for maybe another 1-2 years.
Thank you for the very helpful video
Thanks for the video, this is very helpful. Can you please suggest what are the default settings for No. of days recording will hold? And do we need to keep the setting’s “Auto” for overwrite? My HDD is on continuous recording and it shows error message for no storage space.
The auto will record over the oldest recording. This is found on the Hard Drive tab. The cameras should be set to record on motion detected. This will reduce the space used on the hard drive. As for how long the video is saved on hard drive depends on how often the camera records video to the hard drive. The best setting is auto for overwrite. This way, you never run out of hard disk space.
I have a Night Owl 16 channel DVR thats about 4-5 years old. It stop recording. I tried to reset and format the hard drive, it went through the motion and then said unformated. I purchased a new Purple 4T hard drive, installed it but it doesn't even list/recognize it. I checked all connections but nothing. Don't know what's going on???
The power supply that plugs into the night owl has a history of going bad. This is a common failure point. To test if this is the case you could do the following. Check the DC voltage output rating of the two power supplies. The one for the DVR and the other for the cameras. Make sure they are the same. Then the camera power supply has to have amperage rating of 1 amp or more. Use this supply to power up the DVR temporarily. Now check to see if the hard drive now works. If not it could be a bad capacitors inside the DVR. Check for bad capacitors. The look like small cans with colored plastic shrink around the outside. Part of the aluminum top is exposed. If this top is bulging up, or leakage around the base, the capacitor is bad. My circuit board has three capacitors, two of these were bad. But my DVR was still working.
Whats the maximum size i can put in it?
I really liked your video. I too have a HD problem with my Night Owl. My question concerns the setup; Was the settings saved or did you have to re-enter the IP data ???
No I did not have to re-enter the IP data for the network. I take it forgranit that you are using a static IP address, instead of DHCP.
Thank you for your video, I bought the Seagate 1TB when my original Toshiba died and when I swapped I get the monitor flashing the Night Owl logo but it won't let me log on to do anything. I hooked up this monitor to my old Mac mini and it worked fine. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Unplug the hard-drive, and see if the problem resolves it self. If it does this could be an indication of a power supply issue. It could be the new hard drive is drawing to much current (amps), or a power supply issue. Their is the power adapter that plugs into the wall. This converts the AC power coming out of the wall to low voltage DC. typically about 12 to 24 volt. Some times these go bad or degrade over time. The power supply that power the cameras is typically 24 volts. If the Voltage rating on the back is 24 volts or more, you then can temporarily use camera power supply to to test powering up the night owl.
The circuit board inside the night owl you will find capacitors. They look like small cans, with a plastic colored rapper and strip going down the side. On top you can see the bare aluminum exposed. If the top is split open or bulging, the capacitor is going bad or is bad. They should be replaced.
Just added 3TB Seagate Skyhawk (ST3000VX010). Can confirm unit sees it and it is compatible. This is just information for anybody who needs it.
Would the process you did for your DVR work for a similar DVR from nite owl? I don’t really want to open the dvr to find out the details on the hard drive itself because I’m afraid I will mess it up more. The model number of my DVR is “AHD7-DVR8-1TB” or “AHD7-841.” Any help would be appreciated. My dvr is 720p if that helps.
I think a two steps in researching if a upgrade is possible. First in the menu check to see if their is a HDD Format button. Then research on the internet if some one else has done the upgrade.
can you help my system says no hdd and is not recording but the box say it has 2 bt thing im not really good wih tech
I have an 8 channel unit I bought from Costco several years back. It stopped recording, but I can still see all the cameras on my monitor and they still seem to be working. I opened the case and didn't see any bad capacitors. Do you think swapping the hard drive would fix my issue?
If you can't play back video, then your unit likely has a bad hard-drive. The nice thing about buying from Costco is they often double the manufactures warranty. A warranty repair is always cheaper then replacing things. Be aware hard-drives often need two voltages supplied from the main circuit board. 5 volt and 12 volt. If a power supply is bad it will be the 12 volt, and not cause other problems. Try a used hard drive if have one available. If you are purchasing a hard drive, check thier return policy.
@@jeffanderson9093 this is so bad we all got ripped off and here you are trying to make it better give a solution for spending hundreds of dollars for something that runs out of space by dumb.
I know this video is old. My hard drive is full also. But, my cameras are not working, and on the monitor/TV it's showing no signal. Do you think the reason is due to the hard drive is full, or I need to get a new power adapter that comes with the 4-way splitters?
It's unlikely all 4 cameras would fail at once. I would check the power supply or the 4-way adapter. Verify the power outlet for the power supply is working. Remove the 4-way adapter and plug in one camera directly into the power supply. Then try the 4-way adapter. Then try one camera at a time. Then try adding one camera at a time. At some point, you will lose your camera picture. If you can't get a picture at all. This is most likely the power supply for the camera. If you don't get a picture only on one of the cameras, then it's likely the camera or the cables going to it are shorting out the power supply. If you are losing the picture when multiple cameras are plugged in, then it's likely the power supply is starting to fail. When it comes to the power cables, the wires to the cameras could have gotten pinched, or a rodent chewed on them.
Great tutorial, how is this Hard-drive holding up? I am on my second Night Owl that have the same no Hdd Detected issue.
The cheap hard drive failed this last May. So it lasted 3 years. I tested the DVR with the old hard drive, and it still works. I will be installing a 1TB Samsung SSD. The prossessers cooling fan had failed also. I installed a new cooling fan that required a small modification to attach it.
@jeffanderson9093 thank you very much for your tutorial and reply. Have a great day.
Hi I have a question since the day I purchase cannot make the receiver detect the hard drive what can I do?
Did the old hard-drive fail? Is this a new hard drive. What is the manufacture and model number if so. And yes it's not always the hard drive. Harddrives will make some very mild vibration or noise when first powered up. This is the player spinning up and the heads moving inside. If the noise is easily heard, or the heads repeatedly are shaking. This could be an indication of something wrong.
I have had scratchy horizontal noise lines across all 4 of my video camera feeds. Is this a sign of a bad hard drive or is my DVR going Bad?
If the camera's power supply is separate from the DVR it could be going bad. Unplug the power supply going to all but one of the camera's. Did the picture quality improve? This would be an indication of a failing power supply. Can you play back old video before this problem appeared? Are you still getting partial video images from the camera's?
@@jeffanderson9093 Thanks, Jeff! I did unplug all but one camera, and the picture did improve some. got more color and less lines. I ordered a new power supply and hope that does it!
@@jeffanderson9093 Thanks Jeff. A new power supply seems to have fixed my problem.
another question.... my software version is v1.3.74. I need a magnifying glass to see anything on the menus. is this right?
@@mrkylebloom I'm glad it did fixed the problem with video quality issue. As for the software version, I have no ideal as to version. The first number usually indicates a major change. The last digits would be for small things like bug fixes, and minor changes. The manufacture some times under Support on the website may list the versions.
can you help me my syetem says no disk storage available for recording or no hdd what can i do
First thing go into the menu where the hard drive is listed. Check to see if it is listed. If not listed, the hard drive may have failed, or it has lost the 12 volt supply to it. If equipped, the cooling fan typically runs on 12 volts. This should be ruining. Next, check to see if the box on the screen is checked that allows the oldest information on the hard drive to over written.
Is there any way to back up and view the files from an old hdd night owl drive on a computer or another device? I attempted to insert the drive into a normal drive enclosure and that was unsuccessful. I need to get some video footage from one.
The hard drive has two areas that data is stored. The smaller section is partitioned. The large section where the video is not partitioned or a not common type of partitioning method. To read this may require data recovery software. Basically, it would be difficult to read.
@@jeffanderson9093 thank you
If the dvr has a flash drive USB port you can copy to that for viewing on laptop.
Hello if the hard drive is full can it be empty or erase or do the hard drive have to be replaced?
On the device menu, make sure Overwrite is set to Auto. Once the hard drive is full, it will overwrite the oldest video.
Will this work on any night owl device? Mine must be a different model because it looks different
There is no way to know for sure if it will work. Could be a chance it could work if there is an option to format the hard under the hard-drive menu. If you do purchase a hard drive, please check out the return policies.
please cant the HDD be adjusted to overwrite after a certain number of days?
In the settings you should find a check box, that enables the oldest information to be written over, once the drive is full.
Ok I will check and revert
Where did you purchase this hard drive from? Mine just went out today.
I think the hard drive was purchased from Bestbuy. Apparently, a wide variety of hard drives will work on the Knight owl. See what other people have tried in the replies. Just make sure you can return the hard drive if it does not work.
Thank you sir!
Have you had good luck with this brand? Are your cameras wired?
I have an old system that has wired cameras. The newer systems went wireless.
Also, what is the purpose of Cache?
Hard drives are eltromechanical devices. It takes time to write the data to the disk. A cach is memory that stores data until it can be wrote to the disk.
why did you not put a ssd in ??
A SSD would of costed 3 to 4 times more than a hard-drive at the time. I didn't need the performance level that a SSD offered. So paying for performance I didn't need made no sence. If video system is 4K, the extra performance SSD may offer some benefit.
Hi, thanks for the video. I have the same model and just replaced the hard drive. The issue is that I cannot connect to the app now. I removed the device and rescanned the QR code, re-entered my password, but still won’t connect to the app. Is anyone else having this issue?
The for the app to work the night owl needs internet connectivity. Verify that the night owl is properly connected to the internet.
@@jeffanderson9093 yes there was internet connected. I had to delete the app then reinstall and log back in then it worked. Thanks
@@nildacaldero1067 Thanks for your valuable feedback. This could help others.
Try a new, and I mean new, back up battery ☺️ 3 volts, anything less than 2.5 volts is no good.
Hi! Dnt remaamber my user and password in this model, Does t have botton recet factoru, yoir know how reset of not haven this botón
In the login screen, select Forgot. This should guide you through the process of resetting the system.
Hi I have a DVR-C20X-8 and my device shows error what can be the problem Ty in advance
i need more information as to what type of error you seeing
@@jeffanderson9093 oh sorry it stops recording and when I notice that it’s stops I have to format it all over and if I don’t catch it it stops recording
This can be caused by several reasons. Does the live video from the camera's quit updating on the screen? Or does it only involve video from the hard drive?
@@jeffanderson9093 I see the v cameras viewing on the tv but when I want to look back on videos recorded there’s none ty
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The hard drive could be bad, or the internal power supplies could be failing. Hard drives typically use 5 volt and 12 volt power supplies. This is supplied from the main circuit board. These items are the most likely failure points. If you have an old had drive laying around, you could try it. Remove all power and connections to the Digital Video Recorder before opening it up. Inspect the circuit board for any burnt or visual damage. Next, look for what looks like a small can standing upright on the circuit board. That has a plastic colored sleeve on the outside. This is a capacitor. One way to tell if it is bad is that the metal top will have bulged up, or it looks like something had seeped from the bottom. In this case, the capacitor has failed and will need to be replaced. At this point, you should have someone who's has electronics skills help you out.
I installed a 16 tb hdd when I format it never gets no percentage and reboots no format
By rebooting, do you mean you see the DVR power-up title screen? If so, this could be an indication of one of two things. The DVR is having a power supply issue, or the DVR is having issues with the 12 terabyte size of the drive. Now for the power supply issue. This could be caused by 3 issues. First, the replacement hard drive draws more Amps than the old one. Second, the wall power supply may be failing. Third, the electrolytic capacitors may be failing. The capacitors look like small alumnum cans standing up right on the circuit board. They will have a plastic colored sleeve on the outside. If the capacitor is failing, the top will be bulging or cracked open, or fluid will have leaked from the base. Note: When replacing a capacitor, they are polarity sensitive. The stripe on the side marks the negative side of the capacitor. I did replace 2 capacitors on my DVR because they had a bulging top. They also had significant loss in capacitance.
@@jeffanderson9093 it recognizes the hard drive as 14.9 gigs but will not format it.
@@jeffanderson9093 I was thinking of trying a 12 gig but don't want to spend more money without a second opinion 🤔
@John Boatman Did the old hard drive quit working? The issue is why the hard quit working may not have been the hard-drive failing. Let's do a simple test. When the hard-drive is first power up, the spindle will spool up, and the heads will do a seek. You can feel the head moving as vibration breafly. If this does not happen, it could be an indication that one of the power supplies is bad. What is the manufacturer and model number of the hard-drive?
@@jeffanderson9093 the old hard drive was a 4 tb. It started clicking and powers down. The drive itself died i confirmed that by sliding it in my dock tray on my pc.
The new 16 gig does format just fine as 14.9 gig in my pc. And used chkdsk to confirm nothing wrong with it and passes smartdisk tests.
💭 can I do this in the
🦉 day time I'm a
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That looks easy I wonder why they call it a hard drive they should call it an easy Drive.
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🦉 oh well it's getting dark it's time to go to work thanks for the video
I noticed that you had four screens on your computer (total of four cameras?). I have four NightOwl cameras and want to upgrade my HDD. When I spoke to a NightOwl rep (over LiveChat) they told me to get a HDD with up to 6TB storage. I'm a little concerned after looking at the price (over $100). What is the difference between the TB storages (1TB, 2TB, 4TB, etc.)?
- someone who knows absolutely nothing about hard drives
TB stands for Tera Byte. 1TB = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes of storage.
@@jeffanderson9093 So I'm replacing a hard drive inside of a Night Owl. Is the size a deal breaker? I know they say to use a 7200 rpm SATA HD but I've never heard them say what storage capacity to use. What is a can't miss HD for this thing? The original drive lasted about 5 years which isn't bad but isn't great, considering the really low number of operations this thing has. Thanks. I can't believe size would be a huge deal since you can have it overwrite endlessly, don't need to keep anything but a day or two.