Actually, JFK does have an ILS Approach to 13L, but it's used only as a last resort if the winds are 090-150 at 30+ knots with weather below mins for the VOR approach. They stay on the 4's or 22's as long as possible. The ILS to 13L doesn't mess up LGA, but LGA would be forced to land 13, as well, which is also rare. ILS 13L messes up JFK more than LGA, as due to airspace constraints, APCH can only send one airplane in at a time, cutting JFK's arrival rate in half. 4+ hour delays are common.
HaroldYWong Lights are off to avoid being blinded by their brightness in the fog/clouds. Wipers aren't on to avoid spatial disorientation, and aren't particularly needed when flying fast and/or you can't see out front in the first place,. From what I can see, far from a storm, hardly moderate precipitation. And lastly not a daredevil, just another day at the office for these guys...
I used to live in the Ridgewood section of Queens years ago, which is just east of Williamsburg, and during really inclement weather such as this, the heavies (almost exclusively 747's) would fly right over our house at very low altitude, more or less eastbound, at probably only a few hundred feet. What I can't figure, is which JFK runway they were using, since the "13" runways would have required them to make an S-shaped turn to line up, which would seem odd during IFR weather, while the "22" runways would have required a turn of more than 90 degrees to line up, not to mention having to fly noisily over most of Queens before doing so. I mean, they were so low over our house that it was obvious they were probably only about a minute from landing and it would seem there wouldn't be enough time for those kinds of maneuvers, especially not to line up with the "22" runways.
Forgive me for not understanding the random rabbit lights seen on the left at 6:14? I forgot the name but I thought they were only on the extended centerlines... That one seems to be randomly placed..?
Hallo ........ das ist Fliegen pur! Und KLASSE die Flashlights, die einen an die Piste ranführen. Bist Du deutscher Abstammung? LG aus Old Germany Joseph
wow your a daredevilarnt you? snowstorm to jfk with no wipers until after your taxing down the runway, now in pitch darkness... and no landing lights until the last possible minute... Major balls indeed. I can see my house from here... Which airline you fly for?
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Actually, JFK does have an ILS Approach to 13L, but it's used only as a last resort if the winds are 090-150 at 30+ knots with weather below mins for the VOR approach. They stay on the 4's or 22's as long as possible. The ILS to 13L doesn't mess up LGA, but LGA would be forced to land 13, as well, which is also rare. ILS 13L messes up JFK more than LGA, as due to airspace constraints, APCH can only send one airplane in at a time, cutting JFK's arrival rate in half. 4+ hour delays are common.
This type of flying really alters your other senses; as you can't see really where you're landing until the last minute. Excellent video!
I really like how there are lights to guide pilots to the runway.
HaroldYWong Lights are off to avoid being blinded by their brightness in the fog/clouds. Wipers aren't on to avoid spatial disorientation, and aren't particularly needed when flying fast and/or you can't see out front in the first place,. From what I can see, far from a storm, hardly moderate precipitation. And lastly not a daredevil, just another day at the office for these guys...
I used to live in the Ridgewood section of Queens years ago, which is just east of Williamsburg, and during really inclement weather such as this, the heavies (almost exclusively 747's) would fly right over our house at very low altitude, more or less eastbound, at probably only a few hundred feet.
What I can't figure, is which JFK runway they were using, since the "13" runways would have required them to make an S-shaped turn to line up, which would seem odd during IFR weather, while the "22" runways would have required a turn of more than 90 degrees to line up, not to mention having to fly noisily over most of Queens before doing so.
I mean, they were so low over our house that it was obvious they were probably only about a minute from landing and it would seem there wouldn't be enough time for those kinds of maneuvers, especially not to line up with the "22" runways.
I have personally flown this approach manty times in a B-757. Great fun, but big challenge.
@DiamondPilotDan they're strobe lights placed to lead aircraft around the turn onto final. commonly referred to as chasing the rabbit. :)
Thanks for recording and posting. I'm planning on using this for training with my instrument students.
What a float! nice video
Forgive me for not understanding the random rabbit lights seen on the left at 6:14? I forgot the name but I thought they were only on the extended centerlines... That one seems to be randomly placed..?
ONE OF THE BEST APPROACHES OF THE WORLD !
fantastic video!
I don't think it's an easy approach at night unless you've flown it before.
amazing footage! please upload more videos!
If it was a good day, would you fly VFR or still IFR?
hey, Greeeeat video man! enjoyed it..
Total noob here but seemed high on late approach and a little fast. Heard copilot say “close but good”.
Красиво !!!
Hallo ........ das ist Fliegen pur! Und KLASSE die Flashlights, die einen an die Piste ranführen. Bist Du deutscher Abstammung?
LG aus Old Germany
Joseph
wow your a daredevilarnt you? snowstorm to jfk with no wipers until after your taxing down the runway, now in pitch darkness... and no landing lights until the last possible minute... Major balls indeed.
I can see my house from here... Which airline you fly for?
awesome
Why would a pilot choose VOR over ILS on bad weather? 13L has ILS
The pilot doesn’t choose the approach
American Eagle 4617...Halifax to New York