C172M | Rainy IFR Night Departure (Intercom Audio)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Watch as my CFI, Brandon, and I take to the skies... well, CLOUDS to head up to Dallas from San Marcos. Enjoy!
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I loved the way Brandon phrased the readback for the IFR clearance “119.0 to talk, 2524 to squawk” 😂
I have 1000's of hours and you seem to be doing good. Your friend is a great instructor, so follow his lead and you will be golden. IMC will get easier as you gain experience and easier yet when you fly bigger planes. I dont even know you but I am proud of you.
Outstanding Video. I have about 300 hrs and want to start my Instrument but I got to tell you my heart was pounding just watching you. Your instructor is really good. You read all the stories about disorientation but you proved that in this video that even a really good VFR pilot that knows his plane and his abilities can easily get into trouble very quickly. Nervous to start my training but know it will make me safer in the air. Take care. Looking forward to more of you IFR training.
Great Example by Josh and his CFI on how to fly in IMC and the essential tips needed to master IFR and IMC conditions!
MrAviation101 changed my mind, lets call it a deal. I removed my previous post and take back what I said.
No worries buddy!
Brandon is an excellent instructor. His job is to keep you and him alive as you learn to fly IFR in IMC. Being extra vigilant and pushing for excellence is what you want. Great job!
I’m watching as many IFR vids as I can get my hands on before I start my training, and this video was light Christmas for light bulbs going on!! So many little things that I was only partly getting, just clicked. I love the way you articulate things so clearly! Keep up the amazing videos!
Instrument training was the most fun for me, nearly 20 hours actual and took the checkride with 500ft ceilings, didn't even need a hood. Have fun, it's a blast!
Eminently enjoyable video. The first hour of IFR often raises the pulse rate more than the first VFR lesson.
It does!! Thanks for watching, glad you enjoy it.
I could feel the tension just watching. Great job flying in really tough IFR conditions. Night, rain, clouds. I don't think it could be much more challenging. Keep up the great videos!
Just watched this video all the way through. And want to say, you both did an excellent job! Brandan was superb .. there were a few comments about Brandan being "edgy." Well, let's see ... Old Style, Circa 70,s/80,s C172, No Auto-Pilot, No Back-Up AI, Carburetor Heat (Lord freakin help me), Fogged Up Instrument Panel, Night IMC with 800' Ceiling, Moderate RA .. and one very new to instrument flying pilot in the left seat. Ahhh ... yeah ... I'd be a little edgy too. I used to CFII and flew in these conditions with students many times. . also flew cargo at night for Ameriflight (yes, it was a while back .. about 2004.) But even then, when I flew real IMC the planes at least had a basic Auto-Pilot/Wing-Leveler. The aircraft Brandan and Josh are flying is as "basic" as it gets. Brandan was absolutely on top of the game . . and so was Josh. One other thing, I think sometimes in this era of GA Flight, with the pervasiveness of full glass panels and 2-axis auto pilots, etc. .. it is easy to forget the very high level of risk one encounters in true night IMC, . . . and the very high level of skill and talent needed to safely fly this particular type of aircraft these guys are flying in this video, in these conditions. Excellent video, and two, strong, young pilots who worked very well together as a team.
I'm a student virtual pilot simming with the Cessna 172 Skyhawk. Do you think its good practice to start with a basic aircraft with steam gauges as shown in this video, rather than go for a one with a G1000?
You 2 work well together! And I like your instructor, He keeps you alert. Made me realize how serious it is to fly in IMC
It's very serious, and yes. He's a great CFI!
Thanks for sharing. For those of us actually working towards our instrument rating, videos like this are invaluable. Keep them coming! And thanks again.
This is very familiar territory. I spent a lot of time in C-172s, although my instrument training was in a Piper Arrow. I love that the pilot used the checklist and followed procedure in activating his IFR plan. I also love that the CFII reminded him to ignore what his body told him! I once flew in heavy fog and my internal gyros told me I was leaning left --- but my airplane said I was straight and level . Imagine which one one I believed.
Thanks for uploading, your focus is awesome. sounds like a good instructor too.
Thats was intense! IFR in the rain looks like some on the edge of your seat stuff for a new IFR pilot awesome video! KEEP EM COMIN! :)
reviving the classics, it's been a long way. Love this channel
That was absolutely awesome josh, that was an amazing watch, intense!!
Just learning about your channel and enjoying the first three videos tremendously. In 2010, I spent 9 days in at this San Marcos airfield training to become a motorcycle safety instructor, so I was a bit surprised to hear it mentioned.
This experience you had is why I always fly IFR in CAT III on my simulator. Terrifying but gratifying when pulled off. So many failure variables even in the sim.
Nice vid.
When I used to fly with my Buddy a lot in the Skylane RG even in VFR conditions when it got dark outside everything just got creepy. One time I asked him what that white ball was that was following us up the river and just broke out laughing and said "it's the moon you nut." :)
Love this video of flying at night in the rain. So peaceful. Keep em coming! Thanks for posting!
You are one of my inspirations to go for my dreams of learning to fly.
Man, this is a sweet vid. You can really feel your tension, but it is a good tension. Well done, can't wait to see more!
Strobes in the dark can create a wild illusion out your window.
Wow!! you did really well. It’s really easy to lose yourself to spatial disorientation especially at night.
josh, awesome video.. its hard when you are use to flying VFR VMC, to all of a sudden having to keep your eyes on the instruments, your body wants to take over and look else where ..and with the CFI stressing, that really keeps you on point lol.. keep the videos coming.. great job
That was quite tense to watch, glad I did now.
I like this vídeo and others vídeos, made for you. Thank you very much, to make the vídeos!
I appreciate your videos. I always learn a little something watching them. I have a Cessna 172M as well. Its a great little plane. Very stable and an excellent plane to learn in. I'm VFR only right now but looking forward to moving on to IFR soon.
Keep flying that ifr its tricky but fun
Talk about intense! I'm not a pilot but from I understand if you don't keep an eye on your instruments during an IFR/IMC flight you could be flying at 5000 and the next thing you know you're at 3500. Amazing video!
Thanks man!
It's awesome to see you advance in your training, I've been waiting for you to start uploading these kinds of videos, haha. Can't wait until I can start my training, even though it looks like its a good 5 years out.
Pretty cool Josh. I remember my first IFR lesson, pretty intense!
Flying in actual imc like this is so much different than doing 'hood' training with a view-limiting device. When flying on hood you'll always have slivers of your peripheral vision that can see out the window, and your body will automatically orient itself to know which way is up.
I did my first bit of real imc in the past few months and I didn't expect to get disoriented but I did. It's a crazy feeling to see the instruments all looking great but feel like the airplane is slipping one way or another.
Always good to see Texas getting rain! :)
Very cool, Josh! Keep em coming!
Time for an upgrade that 172 seems to old. To be a100% trust worthy. Also I did no how intense IFR was great job Mr aviation.
Great!! When I fly in the simulator (not training for my PPL just yet lol), I am soo tempted to look outside! Its horrible sometimes haha :P Can't wait to see
more upcoming videos, Josh!
Excellent video, thank you.
This is awesome, im from argentina, im private pilot almost comercial pilot, at the moment im sick i was in bed all the day watching your videos ALL OF THEM haha, i spend like 12 hs watching ur videos, my english its not the best but let me let you know what i think about you. you are a very responsable pilot thats in my opinion, the 90% of this profesion, keep going, I CANT WAIT to see more IFR like this. dont know how to explain how much i like to watch you flying and teaching, you will be a very good instructor in the future, keep going dude, and GOOD FLIGHTS!!!!!
This is a great video! Training down in Houston at IWS. My dad and I share a PA28 like you guys do! N32274, hope to meet one day!
Probably the hardest thing for me was to learn to scan. Once I did that flying in IMC was fun. Always trusted my instruments.
Great to be able to watch some of the early content! #SkyBaum
That's awesome that you're starting instrument!! I'm halfway through right now. Getting into the partial panel and endless holds part. Best of luck. Looking forward to the videos from you. I'm getting a cockpit audio recorder and I'll hopefully be making some videos soon. And using shareaviation.com
I was flying back from Florida that night. I heard y'all on approach frequency going into Addison.
This is great, Josh! So awesome to see something drastically different! Can't wait for more!
The good thing about IFR at night is that it is the same as VFR at night in the desert without a moon. The only difference is that you are trained to deal with both.
I've been carefully considering how to make IFR (training) videos... Curious to see how the comment thread plays out for this one. It is so tough to address the context thoroughly enough; You have to be very careful that you don't edit something out that inadvertently leaves your instructor vulnerable ... Good first attempt though.
And is that your first Voice Over in a video Josh? I haven't noticed you do that before.
Outstanding...thanks for sharing it!
Yeah man, I know what you mean! Just like any other type of flying, the critics will never be satisfied. Although this video seemed to work out well, everyone is enjoying it. If you need some help with cutting together IFR videos, let me know!
Voice-overs have been a common thing for me with other film projects other than TH-cam, but for IFR flight, voice-overs are almost NEEDED to accompany the complicated flight and procedures. Helps walk the viewer through what is happening, plus cover contextual gaps like you mentioned.
Margaret Leber You're welcome Margaret!
Good to see some IFR stuff!
Ok thanks, I understand! !!
Another awesome video..... This one was Very Intense!....and loved the comment about your white knuckles..... You are always a calm cool and collective pilot...seeing you a little stressed was a game changer... You did Great!...what are your Aviation Future Plans???.....Commercial?.... Military?... Private Piloting... Just Curious..... Thanks for sharing.... And letting us non pilots get to ride along...Peace from South Louisiana...
Thanks! Glad you like the videos... I mainly just want to be an instructor for now.
YES!!!! Thanks for putting it up!!!
Cool , get that Instrument Rating, worth it.... Nice Vid
Great Video Josh
I like the CFI , I think he is fine. Nice vid
One of your most interesting vids! I was fascinated by your comments about how your body was telling you one thing but the instruments were telling you something else....If you watch any of those air disaster TV shows, that problem has been the cause of a number of accidents with commercial planes---despite all the instruments and pilot training. It must be seriously weird when you just KNOW something but the instruments KNOW something else---and you have to ignore your basic instincts. Looking forward to the next installments, Josh!
Earlier in the week, my 172 lost suction and the left mag failed. It was a little intense as I was doing some power on stalls. What a place and time for it all to hit the fan. Luckily I was only 5 miles from the nearest airport.
Awesome job Josh!
Awesome. That looked intense. Cheers.
Wow, exciting video! Cool to see you learning IFR. And having the CFI there really taught me a lot about the IFR process and rules. What apps are you and the CFI using?
Awesome Video
Great IFR vid clip!
Tailwinds from Australia :)
trust your instruments and disregard your sensory perceptions :)
nice video!
Awesome vid
Great video!! Just goes to show that even lil' Cessna's can be high-tech. (About the iPad's and G430).
Josh, really like this video. A different perspective then what your use to.
Noticed before you had a suction mount for your iPad, now a yoke mount. Need to get one for my tablet. Which one do you like best? Vids are great - keep up the good work.
Thanks! I like the RAM mount. VERY stable and very rugged.
Good video as always!
Nice job Josh, I think you're really going to enjoy IFR flying. I much prefer flying IFR on cross country flights over VFR (notice I didnt say IMC vs VMC) IFR is like automatic flight following and its so easy to go in and out of complicated airspace (I live in the Baltimore Washington Metro area and its just easier IFR) I love the structure of it although as a CFI (only one I) I pretty much fly around with student pilots so I need to purposefully go out and keep my IFR skills sharp. My biggest piece of advice is to make sure you dont let your instrument skills lapse after you get your rating. You'd be surprised how easy it is to go your 6months and not log 6 approaches, holding, and tracking. Often times you will find yourself in IMC, cleared for the approach, and on the descent down to initial approach altitude, you break out of the clouds. Have fun, be safe!
You are a good pilot,Now you are becoming a Good Aviator
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Great video! I really like how raw it is. Too bad the batteries didn't hold out for the approach. Also a camera fixed on the instruments would be awsome, to see what your doing.
Hey Josh, great video man! One question, what app did you use when you entered the flight plan after you received your IFR release? Keep up the great work!
Make no Mistake....Deadly serious business. yes, i too, at moments, and 'not having first hand knowledge of his friend Brandon' (doesn't look 'that' old..) anything about him', or any 'personality quirks'.... thought there was a bit of an 'uptight' element present. however, after continuing to watch, we also see his buddy Brandon, frequently offer words of support and encouragement to "Aviation"....clearly wanting to keep a happy balance of 'stern-learning'...and 'your doing fine' CRM. nice work guys... truly. and yes, 'these' kinds of operations ( Launching into IMC, precip and complete darkness, require every bit of 'pre-planning, safety-awareness and cockpit coordination one can muster. absolutely. being 'too' slack, relaxed...and even 'slightly-over-confident... can be a recipe for .....well...... these two are good for each other. exemplary work dudes....
Thanks man. Flying IFR, or flying at all for that matter is risky business, and can kill you within minutes of letting down your guard. Thank you for watching!
In the case of losing vacuum suction, you'd still have the turn coordinator yeah? So you wouldn't be completely screwed in imc.
Love your videos josh!
great departure! do you always experience an imbalance distraction from vestibular system that tell your body to bank right in every IFR flights ?
Josh! Great video. This is exactly what I've been doing for this entire year, working on an IFR rating. When programming the route of flight into the iPad, I just put in the first fix because ATC damn near always changes it. Remember to fight the FOE; Fixation, Omission,Emphasis! Are you working on your rating in this flight, or was this a joy ride?
This flight was mainly made because I needed to get to Dallas, so Brandon was so kind as to catch a plane ticket to Austin, and fly IFR with me back up to Dallas. I just figured I might as well get some good instruction at the same time!
Right on. Makes sense to kill two birds with one stone. Nice that he was able to help you out.
Brandon makes sure that Josh doesn't get fixated on one certain thing
Very interesting video. I like the cooperation in the pit. It's almost difficult to imagine that one person is allowed to do all of this without an instructor or a co-pilot.
However I noticed you use carb heat at full throttle. You know that can cause detanation, right?
We pulled carb heat when we entered IMC. Visible moisture+current outside temp would have yielded dangerous carburetor ice. Much safer to pull the carburetor heat to prevent ice than to let it build up causing us to lose RPM on the climb-out in IMC AT night. Thanks for the concern though!
Just curious, why was the carb heat on during taxi? You'll likely risk FOD when operating with that on the ground. The heated air entering the carburetor is unfiltered which may damage the engine.
Way to go josh going for the big jump to IFR its funny some people think glass is required for IFR do you have any upgrades in mind for 991 in the future also a annual stripdown video would be intresting if your A&P will let you do one as he inspects it
Next big thing is a fresh repaint and new windows, then a 2-axis autopilot!
same color or will it be a suprise
Surprise ;)
if you ever plan on buzzing by mid or east Georgia ,Dublin,Savannah,St.Simons.I"like to meet ya in person.
Nice video😀, what gopro mounts do you use?
Josh and B! In da heezy
Great video. nothing different standard wise about your vid:). I have a couple of questions to ask: what does VOR mean and what does IMC mean? thanks :)
IMC means Instrument Meteorological Conditions: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_meteorological_conditions
VOR is a navigation system for aircrafts that enables them to know their position using short VHF radio signals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHF_omnidirectional_range
Sorry for my english =/
As Joao said, IMC stands for Instrument Meteorological Conditions. VOR stands for VHF Omnidirectional Range, and is currently the standard IFR navigational system. VOR stations frequently operate in conjunction with DME (Distance Measuring Equipment) transceivers and TACAN (TACtical Air Navigation) stations.
Hi , great videos and great job you do there , but why they transmited the temperature in Celssius and not in Farenheit ? Big salute from Romania ! Respect.
America, that's why.
We haven't been smart and are not on metric units.
It is always that way...just so we have to go hmm (head calc) for a moment
miles , galons , feet aren't imperial ? you use these , we in Europe are on metric system , and i thought the weather for you is in fahrenheit.?! but even in Europe for aviation is used imperial.
They used to give it in Fahrenheit; they switched it some time in the early 90's, just after I got my certs. I believe it was an attempt to close the gap between FAA and ICAO methods.
David Calhoun Thank you , sir !
IMC at Night in a Single!! Brainy...
Shit, a lot of people in the damn comment section are being edgy. I think you did a great job. Especially Brandon. Being edgy is not a bad thing because it's helping you focus on the specifics, which in turn makes you a better pilot. Some people in the comment section need to relax and enjoy the video. I definitely did and it was great to see your progress into the IFR world. :)
I agree :)
And Thanks!
Does N80991 have a auto pilot sysetem
I'm not a pilot... but what would be a brief explanation of engine out procedure during an IFR flight such as this. My twisted gut tells me options would be very limited. Thanks.
1.where do you get the Internet for the iPad?
2.can you make a Draw my life video?
Is Brandan a new CFI? He seems very edgy. I would get annoyed if I was flying with him
He's been a CFI for a long time. He's a great instructor! He's very edgy about EVERYTHING, which is what makes him a great instructor.
He's a great CFI! Great example's of working in IMC conditions!
Guess I'm just used to my instructor who is the complete opposite
You're right rich, he is edgy, but I like my CFIs that way. I'm the same as you, I'm used to my super relaxed CFI (George). I like both personalities, but for my first time in IMC, I don't mind edgy ;)
I thought it was kind of odd that his hands were shaking in the video. Anxiety is contagious, I feel like he would instill a lot of nervousness and anxiety into his students, but to each his own.
Trust your instruments...you did well
Conditions may not be ideal to fly. you looks very tense :)
what means CFI ?
CFI stands for Certified Flight Instructor. Brandon (the guy in the right seat) is a CFII, Certified Flight Instructor, Instrument. There are also CFIME, (Multi-Engine) and MEI (Multi-Engine, Instrument). There may be more, but I've not worked with any.
Also, it was his first flight in actual IMC; you'd be tense, too! ;)
David Calhoun aha...thanks for the info :)
Why did they keep the landing light on? Was that for the go pro to reference.
Hi Josh - which app do you use, and which one was Brandon using? I'm intrigued. Thanks
I use Garmin Pilot, Brandon uses ForeFlight.
Seems dangerous
I would have entered in your clearance in your Ipad right after you got clearance from approach just to make things easier.
I agree, messed up there. At the foot of the runway when the clearance is active is not the time to do it!
MrAviation101
IFR flying is a whole different experience for sure. Good on luck on the rest of your training! I hope to take my CFI checkride sometime next month.
Thanks! Yeah, it's different. A lot more taxing.
how much do you pay to get garmin pilot man cuz that app look really sick! and useful for flying. MrAviation101
It's about $75/yr for the standard VFR package
MrAviation101 oh aight man that's pretty good thanks alot
I'm sure this was asked a lot already but are you gonna start instrument soon?
Yessir!