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- Looking at some of what's available out there in the area of quick-access handgun safes. Trying to just make viewers aware that these things on the market and what features you might want to consider, regardless of what brand you buy. The best ones to purchase might just not even be on the table, but these are the ones I happen to have right now and DO represent features that are worthy of consideration. ------------------------ Remember to check out our video clips on the Hickok45Clips channel: / @hickok45clips
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The NRA is totally wasting a valuable resource by not putting Hickok front and center in their dissemination of gun safety info. This man demonstrates by word and action how guns can be safely owned and be a fun and helpful tool. Well done Hickok.
I have a feeling he's been asked and politely refused direct association
Keep in mind that some (not me) feel the NRA sold us all out when they proposed gun control a while back. No question the NRA is a must these days to support but maybe they helped fuel gun control a little?
Agreed Mr. O'Rourke.
nra sucks...the NAGR is a better group...the nra was alright with selling out the 4th amendment for the 2nd...which won't work
All activist groups are a self fulfilling cause. The only way to absolutely stop gun control is to stop following it. Period. Yes, it is scary, but you have to realize that compliance is the only way that they win. Absolutely you must vote and you should be an NRA member, if not to just keep up with voting against regulation. However, never forget that no one can take away your freedom. You can only surrender it in return for no fights in order to lose it.
The problem I have with Hickok is that every time I watch a video, I spend money.
Did you spend money after the Hi-point review?
Literally: yes
On that: no
iSeabeck THAT'S THE TRUTH! Same here lol
People probably have the same problem with Z Reviews.
Hahahahahaha!!! Ain't it the truth?! I swear, when I saw him do a video on the M&P M2.0 9mm I went out and bought one the next day! Same with the Uberti Cattleman II Nickel 7" barrel SAA Colt clone! Hickok45 - the gateway drug...
Been ill and tied up to the chair, I not only enjoy watching your videos I love hearing the crickets and the birds in the background. Being an outdoors type from the south, sounds good. Thanks.
borzak101 Me dude. Good call. I didn't even realize that nature was happening. And now it's the apocalypse and I realize how much I took nature for granted.
I would also love to see an updated pistol, safe video since we are now reaching 2024. Appreciate all the videos. Love the Sundays round down range.
I own several of these, and think they're great. You absolutely get what you pay for, and none would be super great for "anti theft". The advice I'd offer is to remember these are battery operated devices, so you'd be well served to set a reminder in your calendar to proactively change the batteries periodically. Just like replacing/recharging your fire extinguisher. When you need it to work, it has to be perfect. Also, practice accessing it in the dark, with your wrong hand, etc. I like mine a lot.
I have several quick access safes. They have always been about the kids and keeping the honest honest. I had assumed a thief would be into them in nothing flat, however, I recently discovered first hand that they can be effective against the casual or opportunistic thief. I have the NanoVault (the one on the top left of the screen) in the truck, cabled to the passenger seat rail. My truck was recently broken into. I found the safe on top of the seat. The cable was a bit chafed and the side of the safe where the cable passes was bowed out just a bit. It appears they tried to pull it off, but due to lack of time or tools, left it. I didn't have anything in it, but had there been a gun in there it would have prevented the theft. A great investment for the thirty or forty I spent.
Video is around 2 1/2 years old and still the best simplified review info I see. Plus all the good common sense to go with it. Good comments as well. I like the quiet safes. We don't need the burglar to hear me accessing a safe but I like to noisy ones too in case the kids are playing with it. Sounds like I need two night stand safes - problem solved !!! Keep up the good work Mr Hickok45 and son. I've learned soooo much on your channel. Thank you.
Did he say, "I'm from Kentucky and I can count." ??? LOL
If you involve the kids in shooting, they are less likely to want to “play” with the gun... Im not saying to not lock them up, Im saying to teach kids the same safety as you would expect of an adult, which includes why they need to be locked up!
Most kids are interested in damn near everything they are told to not touch! So let them touch, let them shoot. Responsibly. The sign of good parenting!!
My brother is a shooting instructor for the local PD. When his daughter was young, he safely showed her the gun, let her handle it, explained everything to her and told her if she EVER wanted to shoot it, he would take her shooting when age appropriate but to NEVER handle the gun without him there. Then he locked it up and said he never once had any problems. It took the "mystery" out of it.
@@warpigg62 exactly... 👍😎👍
It depends on the age. My daughter is 5, she can't handle a gun yet, but might be curious to play with it. These things are important imo.
No, hide the guns and don’t let them see it they’ll never knew you had it. And then, when an intruder comes in the home, daddy runs down stairs with the BLOWER
You have to make your own choices on when and how to introduce them to firearms, and remember that not every kid is similarly responsible at the same age. You know your kids better than anyone...but remember too, you may not know their friends.
Oh, by the way. Once you've secreted your guns away in their happy homes, if you don't want them stolen, two rules.
1) Don't tell anyone they are there! Be careful of whom you let know you have them. Word spreads between "friends," innocently enough, as one tells another "you should see Soandso's gun collection, man..." Next thing you know, a stranger knows what you have and will be looking in all the right places.
2) If your man cave, den, etc. is covered with Glock signs, Winchester ammo boxes and you have "Battle mugs" with AR rails and handles and such on your counters, the would-be opportunist suddenly becomes a criminal on a mission.
Just be smart about your "awareness levels" and there will be a lot less weapons on the street and your prized possessions will remain... Yours.
Great information Boomer Taylor. I have one large safe for all my guns and valuables. With things getting a little sketchy these days, it is almost imperative to have a couple outside and easier to get to. My only reservation about one large safe is in the case of a burglary. If on vacation I only take a couple handguns; the others stay at home in the large safe. Should our home be burglarized while we are away, I would be afraid of the goons coming back while one of us is home and make us open the safe. I am now thinking about building out a secret area for that large safe. What are some thoughts out here?
@@curtisszymczyk1339 I'm in the process of getting a veeerry good deal on a big, 1 ton safe with a time lock on it I found at a local locksmith. Don't be afraid to go into these shops and ask for "off menu" items other than the gun sages thry have up front. They get all kinds of stuff through, just keep asking. Data safes are a good choice because they're large, can be had at a decent price and hols everything.
I've had the Hornady one for a couple of years and love it. It's easy to use with the combination or with the rfid tags. When I got mine Cabela's had a combo pack where you got that safe and the Hornady Armlock Box together for $180.00. The Armlock Box is perfect for in your vehicle to lock up your firearm if you go somewhere that you can't carry it in. Hope this info is helpful and to quote Hickok45 "Life is good."
Great video! Please do more videos like this so we can push the message of proper gun safety and show that the community cares.
*This* is why I love this channel: Gun expertise with *NO* political dogma attached.
That's funny, just because he is wearing a t-shirt, you think there is no political dogma attached.
0:06 I guess you stopped watching before that..
@@jamesstewart556 Its not political. Its true that there are anti gun people using "common sense gun safety" as a euphemism for gun banning.
Oh no! how dare gun channels complain about the people who are trying to take their guns away...
Also Hickok regularly talks about supporting pro-gun groups, breaking as far as I'm aware none of those are Democrats since they're the ones that want to take the guns away...
Yep! 💯
"I'm from Kentucky, I can count!" Hickok with the top bantz
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I'm from Marion, Kentucky and can count haha
Louisville here. When I get past 20, I have to drop my pants. Then I’m good up to 23 😎😎
@Hickok45 Any chance you could do an updated version of this for 2020?
thanks for demonstration on lock boxes 👍
I use my handgun to keep my handgun safe safe.
Wow , so you are protecting the safe that it's supposed to make your gun safe by using the gun.
Mind bloooooown
literally.
lol same there is nothing in my safe but bullets but I use my gun to protect what it fires
And my kids...
LOL. My 22 year has her own, but my 8 year old is not there yet :-). Still working on the wife for that one.
Well done as usual hickhock, I think it’s always best to go above and beyond when it comes to keeping firearms safe.
Hi Hickok, one thing I would like to add on biometric safes. I am 76 and have had several over the years as they came out. Used to work great until my first one quit working with my finger prints. Bought another brand and I couldn’t program my prints. I tried my younger kids and both safes worked fine. As you get older you’re prints get creases in them and obviously over the years your prints gradually wear out. My suggestion is for an older person try programming one and see how it works for them. I now use the Hornady safes with RFID devices.
It's a Fully Semi Automatic High Capacity Clip Assault Glock!
Glock-brand-glock-azine.
Fully semi-automatic... You must be a Crowder listener as well.
+Akarat it was a joke, my dude
sounds like a low information voter, I shudder to think how much damage they can do...
on the other hand, another great video from Hickok45....
a great American!!
+bottomlands learn what a joke is.
lol as usual, some of the comments are clueless. These safes aren't designed as anti-theft, fire, water, etc. They're simply designed to keep kids' and visitors' hands off of them to prevent another tragic accident, while still being easy to access in case of an emergency.
I keep my "just in case" handguns in a medium sized Office Depot pin pad safe, cost about $175. Sure, a burglar could just pick the whole thing up and carry it away, but that's not why I bought it. That's what my Liberty safe is for. It weighs 1300 lbs empty, but it's also fastened to the concrete. I'd actually be impressed if I came home one day and it was missing.
Oh and Hickok, the Vaultek is relatively new via a crowdfunding campaign. I'm sure you've worked a miracle for them here, even without reviewing it.
I am a new gun owner and although I went with a different model the Top Opening Biometric Drawer Safe by BARSKA I think if you have children is all boils down to one thing! Instructing your kids that guns are not a toy, not to be played with, not to be used unless you have been trained. I have had several swords.knives over the years and not once has any one of my 3 kids ever gone near them or touched them. Why, I as a parent have instructed them that yes they look cool but they are weapons and can hurt some one badly or even kill. The same will go when I purchase my Glock/17/19 G4 next month.That being said @Hickok45, as soon to be gun owner your channel is simpy amazing! The info the Gods honest truth about the weapons etc that you review. Please keep up the honest reviews great work!!
That's how we were raised and nobody was hurt or killed accidentally.
I've told my two little girls to not play with the flashlight in my room many times and I still catch them playing with it. Kids will be kids, and it makes sense to keep them from being a little too curious. Lock up the gun, if for no other reason then to keep a burglar from walking off with it or that one friend that your well mannered kids bring over to the house who hasn't been through any safety training.
Old school. Much respect for that. Good comment. 👍
Have you graduated from Glocks yet to a better handgun? You've had 3 years. Hows the progress/ your collection, coming along?
I, much like yourself, have had the gun vault for almost 15 years and have changed the batteries once (and I don't even know that it needed it). It has worked great. Still functions flawless to this very day.
Excellent video!!! I think a lot of people looked at these things as a theft proof device. They are mainly to keep children, or visitors from having access to your home defense gun. Very well explained. I could actually use a couple of these...Even though my 12 year old girl is terrified of my guns. She cringes when she sees me with one of them. I've tried to explain guns to her, but she just doesn't feel comfortable around them. My wife is almost as bad. Likely where my daughter has adopted this same "fear". I think I would be in a very bad situation, if I depended on one of them to help ME out. lol My home, and family has always felt safer to me, knowing that I could protect them, if need be.
Thank you sir for the video...clears up all the questions i had for Handgun safes. Godspeed to you and your camera crew for making valuable info available to us.
I like this type of video... just as useful as gun reviews.
I have three of the Hornadys (2 handgun, one long gun) in different places in the house, all programmed to the same wrist fob. They're all hidden and screwed to heavy pieces of furniture or walls. Been using them for years and happy with them.
I’ve had 3 Gun Vaults for years - different parts of the house.
Flawless.
‘Best part is that they’re engineered to run two bolts/nuts that go “up” thru a shelf / dresser (nuts on the inside).
They open in seconds - only if the right “combo” is entered.
They come in two sizes. The big one holds two or three full size handguns.
I live in the country - mag “in” and one in the chamber.
Quiet, too.
I have never shot a gun until yesterday, love your videos I have learned so much, thank you
It would be great for you to do a new video since the technology has improved some
Agreed
So many cicadas in the background, sounds like a trumpet.
Reminds me of Evangelion.
Great video! I think the way to go is to bolt one of the little ones down, drill yourself on the combination (you'll forget during a stressful moment), and keep the key in a bigger locked safe. The only thing I don't like about gunvault is that you can't enter the combo fast on some of them. I'd like to not have to worry about cadence so much as just remember the numbers. Great tip how some biometrics now let you do multiple angles! Even the instructional videos for sime of these show having to try twice to make it work on the "how to" section.
Thank you for the introduction to this topic. May I suggest talking about what we should consider when buying. Size, security, speed of access, where will it be placed?
You really wanna lock up a highpoint. You don't want your friends to know you have one of those!😆😆😆🤭🤭🤭
Nice video guys! I see a lot of blasé gun owners who leave loaded firearms out and about and that's totally fine but if you have company over its a good idea to put your firearms away if you don't know how well trained they are. And yes some people are more concerned about home invasion than others. So it is personal preference but people need to be educated on all aspects of gun ownership. I've seen loaded firearms in an unlocked room of a house with children who have simply been told not to go in the room. You do the math there! So thank you Hickok for getting the word out and trying to educate people.
God I love being an American!
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Can I get one that plays the James Bond theme when I open it?
Lol
haha I was thinking the same thing! That Vaultek Safe reminds me of James Bond
😁😁007
I want the A-team theme
I’ll take mine in Mission Impossible.
Imagine getting a bump in the night and you punch your code in and all the BG hears is the mission impossible theme lmao
That’s more frighting then racking your 12G 😂😂
“I’m out this guy means business”
Is that braille on the buttons? Let that marinate for a minute.
Lol! Well it could just be for the dark. And lots of people have lights on their home defense handguns. But you're right, it's still funny.
+Johnny M. gives a whole new meaning to shooting blind.
That's funny. There are Braille buttons on my local drive through ATM.
+Ben B I've seen that too. At the drive up ATM. They probably use the same buttons on all of them but it still makes you scratch your head. A blind person going to the walk up ATM is dangerous in this day and age.
a blind man with a full auto glock is the best sentry of all...
I've just purchased the hornady rapid safe 2700. great little tool.
I have had the Gun Vault Minivault (second from the left in the video) for several years now. It’s built like a tank and provides quick access. Highly recommend.
"That's one *_combination_* of, uh, features."
As he describes the only safe on the table that doesn't have a combination lock.
You should do a video on carrying while driving in a car and storage in a car. Since you ride, carrying on a motorcycle too.
I usually have it in my jacket. I'd like to try cross draw. The other thing is that in AZ, which is where I live, I can open or conceal carry.
For the vehicle look up console vault. I love mine. And I carry appendix when I drive. Very easy and accessible if I have to draw it
“1-2-3-4-5-6. boy, I can count, I’m from Kentucky” 🤣
Hickok is a good man and makes good videos. I trust what he says! I have the second one!
at the end of the day if your really concerned about your kids getting to it, it's just best to sit down and explain to them that they should never grab your gun. I did this with my 4 y/o son and he has never grabbed my gun bag. I've left my gun bag on the bed and watched him to see what he would do. he would look at it and walk away, and go tell me that I need to put my gun bag up.
Should be an ongoing conversation from the time they can move around until they move out of the house, but kids go through strange stages of devlopment and confusion. Doesn't matter whether the kid is an Eagle SCout or what, firearms access should be controlled to some extent when the firearms are left with no adults around.
+hickok45 most definitely all the changes they go through
Of course there should be conversations, but every kid is different. Some kids, you tell them not to do something, and it will be in their head until they do that thing. Best to have the security in place in addition to raising them right.
@@hickok45 Agree don't leave your gun on a bed to see what a child would do.
I have one of these bolted down. I use it for short term storage when not on my person and while I'm at home, so the kids don't have access.
Two Thumbs Up! These aren't just for protecting kids. We keep an elderly parent with us, and we treat our firearms as if there was a child in the house. These are important for those times when company comes, because some people will pick up someone else's gun.
The smaller safe in the upper right of the screen is great if you drive a tuck or any vehicle that doesn't have a lockable area. The lanyard can wrap around a seat frame and with velcro the safe will stay hidden.
the 12 year old that can rebuild a motor, should already know the cardinal rules and know how to shoot
Two in the stomach one in the head.
"Should" being the operative word here.
"The Vault-tek" Me: "What!"
the Vaultek does look well made. even the laches/lock bars on the lid look heavy duty when he opens it up.
One style of safe not mentioned are the simplex style locks. A very big plus for them is no batteries. The one I have is a V-Line Brute. It's not cheap, price right now is $209 on amazon but it's 10 gauge steel. If you look on youtube there's a video of someone trying to break in to one and it's just not possible. Then I have screwed down to a permanent cabinet so if someone wants it they need to bring a sawsall with them to cut the wood around it. V-Line makes a lot of various boxes that use simplex (the lock mechanism is always really similar so you'll know it when you see it). Other brands that make this style include Shotlock, Fort Knox, and Stealth. I'm not being paid by any of these people or given free products but I'm just a big fan of the mechanical lock
That Vaultek Safe looks badass!
weeman1493 the slide out version is very nice. Worth the price in my mind.
You could have one with a Breathalyzer for people from Wisconsin
Sir, I thank you for every single video you produce. This one was of interest as I had a keypad issue with one of these brands. It is definitely not a good thing if your code is not recognized quickly and it takes several attempts to get your box to open. The one I had finally failed, would not open, and was therefore cast to the trash. I have gone with a new Vaultek and am so confident in the responsiveness and feel of the keys. I thought to just give my 2 cents on an important facet of owning one of these.
Recently picked up two drop down boxes with a number code and key opening method. They are wonderful .....especially on the side of a nightstand or on a kitchen cabinet. And the key stroke sound can be turned off so they operate silently...... awesome!! Safety and great defense all in one!!
Could you drop me a link or a model name? I've been looking for a reliable one. Appreciate it!
This is one of those areas where being single is awesome. No expensive safes or worries about safety.
You can just leave guns laying around loaded wherever you want and they never move until you move them lol.
That could lead to a dangerous situation during a break-in depending on where your guns are left.
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Yeah thats true. Something to think about.
I mean its not like I literally leave them laying out in plain sight sitting on the counters or anything either. I'm all about being tactile with my firearms. It also helps to have dogs and a good alarm system to make sure people can't break in and get the drop on you.
yes to dogs!!! If my DAWGs do not wake me, in time to open biometric safe & I make it thru encounter, the dogs might not be so lucky!
Logan, please learn how to speak and write English. Thank You.
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After owning three Gun-Vaults, I purchased a Fort Knox Pistol Box with the mechanical lock. Found it to be a MUCH better option. Four years without a single hiccup.
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Howdy from Shelbyville Mr. Hickok. American Security makes a cool one too that your viewers might like. It uses a Simplex lock so it doesn't need batteries. They have a few different models and sizes too. Your channel rocks!
No matter how much you think you know about firearms I always learn from your show....
The high point, oh god I cracked up lmao
First-class Gun Info !!! Thanks for the update on a real safety system.
My wife, who works for the Treasury Department has a pillow that contains a soft sided pistol storage space. The lock is biometric and it doesn't make any noise while opening.
At first I thought "I don't need anything like this since I don't have any kids still living at home". But that doesn't take into account that other people come over to visit. I'm not willing to risk the chance so I bought one.
I use the fairly inexpensive ($30) Gunvault safe that only needs the key. It's great for a variety of things. My wife transports her pistol in it when she's flying. The cable is great for those times you need to temporarily store your pistol in your vehicle and would help deter a "smash and grab" situation.
Is it weird that i think half of these look like old game consoles?
Harnady looks like Atari!
These things all look like they were manufactured in the 80s xD Personally I wouldn't trust a biometric scanner, they tend to be unreliable, both in recognizing your fingerprint, and in just opening to another person's fingerprint sometimes.
The cicadas are serenading us here in Pennsylvania too! Loud buggers.
I've got the SentrySafe Biometric lock with a keypad (and manual key of course). Never had any issues, the thing's made of 1/4" steel with nice padding on the inside and the lid is designed to make it virtually impossible to crowbar your way in without making one h*ll of a racket. Unlocks every time, and the lid even has a little hydraulic release to swing it open quickly, so there is very little fumbling around before your hand meets the grip. The lock is nice and heavy with a satisfying *clunk*, and the compartment fits virtually any full-size-or-smaller pistol and two magazines (no, your 500 winmag will *sadly* not fit). I have a CZ75 Compact with two loaded magazines, and there's still about 1/3 of the space left in there. 10/10 would highly recommend.
Worth noting that the Vaultek one is Bluetooth pairable, meaning you can open it with your smartphone.
Yes! And you can check the battery level of the rechargeable lithium-ion battery, check tampering, adjust the interior light, toggle the sound ON/OFF, manage fingerprints (VT20i + VT10i only) and check the history log. Thanks, Tom!
Sure! You make a neat product, uses state-of-the-art technology very well.
Thanks Tom!
Just had my first child and the fact I can check tampering alone is worth $250 price tag. You will be having a order from me soon.
Have purchased both a Vaultek Vt20 and a VTPro in the past month, and am really impressed by both. The wife has the 20 on her nightstand, and the Pro sits on mine.
If you have children in the house and own a gun those children should be taught how to properly unload the firearm and preferably use it. Buying a safe isn't preventing curious children from being curious. It's best to explain in detail and diminish any curiosity by showing them the necessary safety steps and appreciation of the weapon.
I currently have three different types of the Gun Vault safes. Like you state, I do not expect these to protect against theft. I use them to ensure that my son cannot gain access to my handguns. I have one of the basic combination Gun Vaults that you show in your video. It is great and secure, but I do not use that for my handgun that I expect to be able to grab quickly. The other two I own are the push button Gun Vaults. These safes are great fro quick access. I can easily and quickly punch in my code even in the dark. This allows me to keep my son from accessing my firearms while maintaining quick access if I need it. The safes are also great for vehicles to help to prevent theft. I often bring one along with me and use the included cord and attach it to the bottom of my seat. Of course, given time a thief could likely get it, but an unprepared thieve will likely not have time in a populated area when my car alarm is going off and he/she is looking for a quick grab type of theft. Great video like always. This is definitely an important subject to cover.
I used to have two of the GunVaults (tall one in the back) and have since replaced one of them with a ShotLock simplex style pushbutton.
My oldest GunVault is still going strong, and I've only had to change the battery something like once in the past 15 years despite it being opened pretty much daily. However, my other one just hard-failed one day. Had to open it with a key and changing the batteries didn't help. So I replaced it with a simplex style safe so I never have to worry about the batteries being dead right at the moment I need it to open.
Well in Canada, to keep them OUT of the big gun safe, we would have to use one of these. We could store the firearm unloaded, with a magazine beside it by law.
Still, every one of these look like a bad guy with a small crowbar and 10 seconds of time could pop them, aside from the VaulTek.
I like the idea of getting one. Keep it covered perhaps, and screwed to a wall or floor.
Yes this is perfect for canada...
But then again...
You have to prove that you were in danger and it was self defence...
So you're better of with a shotgun...
Yes I did. Again, just to see if whatever your point was applied to anything I said. And it still doesnt.
And no, you dont get a "no reply" because of your name.
+Shkotay D what he is saying is that we all know a bad guy can get into these safes. its just for safely storing it from people (kids) that don't have 'theft' or other actual bad intentions.
Ryan H That helped clear it up better.
I think my working assumption going in is that these would be reasonably secure even against a crowbar if I were to use one. Looking at these and having looked at a few more in person, I dont think thats the case at all. But if its to keep access handy yet ONLY safe from kids, I can get that. Hickok45 went into that in depth in the video and in the comments. That I already knew.
The Vaultek looked pretty solid though.
Thanks! Most of the folks in our little startup company are shooters and we got tired of expensive yet somehow cheaply made firearm security.
Just a note, that second gun vault you were showing has a pretty serious design flaw that allows someone to use a paperclip to open it.
Do you have a video reference or is that just a rumor ? I have a GunVault just like the one shown, except 2 gun version. I tried all kinds of picking methods on it when new with no success.
Which is why he says at 2:00 "used smartly" and "their limitations."
Three of them (or more) can be defeated with a paper clip... The horandy was picked in 25 seconds on a video I saw...
Good for keeping small kids out but not a robber
+Wolfram VonPenning True. Safes are like locks. They keep out most kids, they keep honest people honest, but don't do much to prevent theft if the thief is determined. They also protect people from liability if they live in a state like mine which mandates that guns are locked when not in use.
I also have a GunVault. I had a dead battery and lost my key, I was able to "pick" the lock with a bic pen. Just google tubular lock bic pen. Mine is only used to keep out of the hands of kids and for that purpose it works well.
The Vaultek can be operated by your phone (view access history, open it, dim the interior light, battery level, etc.) More than I would want to pay, not sure any is very useful, but my inner geek likes it.
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that and have not fully investigated it yet.
A lot of handgun safes-and even gun safes in general are at best just heavier duty locking storage containers. The Safe to Armed in Seconds talk from DEFCON has a pretty good talk and series of demos on just how insecure those safes can be.
Even bolting stuff down, basic locking storage containers sold as safes just delay getting the contents by a few moments. Best thing is to look it up and then break into your own safe to see how easy or hard it is and what might be good to help secure it better.
i keep my glock in my alien gear holster on a nightstand next to my bed, then again I live alone so I don't really worry about kids and stuff lol
what if a robber is being stealthy and quite and you wakeup after he finds the gun next to you? (that never happens, there is always 'big thump' in night! LOL)...do you have dogs or spider senses ?
+robert h What if a kid falls in your cage and you get shot for it.
#ripharambe
+Philwirtznumber1fan I worry about that every night
Philwirtznumber1fan I would put 'quik clot' on the wound & then stoke the fire for the oven!
The real question is, how do you like your children cooked?
In this liberal world we live in I'd bet a robber shoots himself with your unstored gun and you get sued. Liberal judges are everywhere.
And here's my family, I keep a loaded ar-15 with me at all times, in my car when I leave. my parents both have handguns. my little brother 16 years old. keeps 2 12 gauges and a 270 rifle loaded. Then again we are all versed in safety. no one ever picks um up and we tell each other if we move them, unload them, etc. Communication is a biggy. But we're ready to roll at a moments notice. If guest come over we'll tell them we have loaded weapons. If they have a child we'll lock the doors where my brothers shotguns are, my parents keep theirs holstered and my ar stays on my person.
I remember the good 'ole days when folks used to keep the family gun above the fire place in plain sight.
When you have a question, go to the man you can trust. I was over-thinking this.Thanks.
Just got a Vaultek, best I have seen.
A Throop any insight into "kid proof"? There are videos showing kids bumping safes open etc. Is Vaultek protected against that? Simplex type lock? I have kids. I'm worried they'll work their way in.
The Family Show If you worry about your kids breaking into your safe you should either start teaching them discipline and personal space or not own a gun.
I'm a father of four boys and two girls and just the thought that a parent could believe their child would try to break into a safe is abhorrent to me.
As a wise man once said "just find their currency."
I keep guns accessible to anyone in my house that needs one at a moment's notice and everyone is trained and except the 2 and 5 year olds they all shoot as much as we can.
Nobody thanks for the feedback. My wife is absolutely against a gun in the house. Children are magnates to firearms. I know I was as a child. An accident is irreversible. I just want to make sure that they or their friends cannot easily get it open.
I got a Fort Knox PB1. It is currently empty.
a safe should be a tax write off
I use the "keep my finger off the trigger" gun safe. Works every time with no hiccups.Seriously though, great video and thanks for the info.
Thanks again Hickok. I'm now researching what features I might want -- this video got me started. I was just having the Saturday morning coffee and saw this come across. Now I've got a plan for the day. Appreciate the jump start on the options.
There's already some good points made in comments about recommended locks and such. You might take all that into consideration. I find the comments about the Simplex locks interesting, as I like to avoid batteries and electronics as much as possible, too; however, some of these "electronic" buttons are much bigger and easier to see and push. They even light up when your hand approaches, so I'm a bit conflicted on that one. As long as there's a warning when the battery is low, I'm not sure I'm reluctant to rely on battery power. I love the big buttons on the Hornady and how they light up. It would be great in low light and if one is sleepy or uncoordinated, but I do NOT like how noisy it is. As with everything, it seems, it's not easy to find the combination of features one wants in one place. :-)
+hickok45 I would agree on the battery issues. The biometric safes seem high on the cool factor, but I want my wife to be able to gain access if I'm away, etc. Also looking to keep the grandkids out. Simple and quick to access , high on safety, and doesn't need me to attend to batteries. 😊
I'm from Australia handgun safes are illegal here too!!!!!!
Well why would you need a safe if you can't own the gun in the first place?
Too easy to forget the combination when you hear intruders coming into the house!
Biometric? It can fail , but it is working better than ever! Scan several fingers tips in case one is damaged, I was thinking of trying to add a 'tow' print? lol
I was just going to say the same thing, In my line of work injuries can happen, in the case of the finger print reading anything, program different fingers, and fingers from you other hand, never know if you may not be able to use the finger on the hand you normally use for any number of reasons.
You don't forget that easily if you train, train and do some more training.
Muscle memory is your best friend in a high stress environment! ;)
Do it 10 times every day for a month or so and there is no way that you are going to forget the combination.
I opened it multiple time a day for first few weeks, now maybe once a week I pop it open as quick as I can just to stay practiced.
Background sound effects provided by John Carpenter's The Thing circa 1982.
Thanks for the video, guys.
Hickok45....a true American Patriot. Thanks for sharing more common sense advice to other patriotic Americans.
249.99 for the Vaultek biometric (VT20i), 169.99 for the Vaultek non biometric (VT20)....just info.....
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@@vaulteksafe VT20i is the one I bought about a year ago and love it!!
"My husband doesn't want a gun in the house" SAID NO WIFE EVER ;-) aloha from Hawaii
Hi_Klass KicksHawaii And if "he" did say that, "he" probably has a husband, not a wife. LOL. Just a thought...
@@jamiesloan5902 Man, husband and husband here. Ruger EC9s, 10/22, and a M44 Mosin. A guy's a guy, what he does in the bedroom doesn't really have a bearing on most things.
Hi_Klass KnivesHawaii um actually that’s my reason for watching this video. My husband does not want a gun in the house but I told him it was nonnegotiable
That was very helpful! I have a four-year-old little boy who likes to visit, and I want his mother to feel comfortable leaving him with us. I don't like trying to keep the gun hidden from him some place without the ammunition, and I believe one of these would keep us all safe until he's at least 10 or 12.
I had the gun vault one identical to the one you have. There was a small wire that broke inside the locking mechanism when using the finger sequence. The key would still release the door. So I tossed that one and bought a Fort Knox with a simple mechanical lock. I've used the FK for about 4 years with no issues.
For the biometric can you program more then persons finger, say my brother for instance.
Yes.
Dont get one of those. If your hand is sweaty or moist. It will not read your print. And that is not good if you need it in a hurry. I would use the one that Hickok has had for years.
Louis Johnson Have you tried Vaultek?
Laby 70 Have you tried Vaultek biometrics?
im from new zealand so howdy
Howdy too from Australia lol
North island or South island?
+Sky King north
Howdy partner I'm from Holland.
+Moral Man i stole some of your natives m8 so kangroo that
Thank You ! I have been trying to figure out which safe to buy for quick accessibility, and security from others, and its a huge convenience seeing them all in one spot.
Tubular keys have a serious design defect that make them very easy to defeat with an impressioning tool. It is unfortunate that they are popular on a lot of small safes and strong boxes.
Keep in mind that your kid MIGHT open the safe by guessing the code but he surely cant open it if it requires a key.
THAT would be the parent's fault, too, if with four or five digits a person cannot figure out a sequence that is secure. Plus, there might be other parenting issues if a child is so intent on getting to his parent's handgun that he spends hours working on the code. As I discussed in an earlier safety video, it's best, in my opinion, to remove the curiosity as much as possible. I always had a deal with John; virtually any time he wanted to handle a firearm, I'd let him. We'd empty it, and I'd let him hold it. Good chance to teach trigger and muzzle discipline in a safe place, as well as satisfy the curiosity. If a child knows he can look at and learn about a specific firearm by just asking, there's no need to be sneaking around trying to get a look at it. I'm not the ultimate authority on anything, but I think satisfying that curosity in a smart way is one effective approach.
Unless the kid gets a hold of the key, of course... which never happens, as children are not prone to lose stuff at the strategic moment you need it most or find stuff you thought a black hole had swallowed...
You are right. Still if I can chose a 100% safe option (key) or an almost safe (code) I will go with the key.
He might just get lucky and guess the code with the first try. (probably Im just worrying too much)
zzzorg If yu have a motivated kid around, NO option will be 100%.
Also, that key on the lying on the second safe from the left, back row, looks pretty standard to me. Like you get on just about any locking box. That doesn't seem very safe to me...
+hickok45 I did the same thing with my son now he doesn't care about guns at all. but that might be the media brainwashing him he really doesn't even want to look at either of my ar's
To ease my wife's anxiety about me buying my first gun, I had to alleviate her fears about my kids and their friends gaining access. I did my research and purchase the Fort Knox Pistol Box. It's heavy duty, super secure, and uses a Simplex lock system that doesn't require batteries and is virtually foolproof. It cost over $250 when I got it but it was worth the expense to make us feel okay about the kids. I didn't want to skimp on my pistol box or trust batteries failing, etc with all of the electronic lock systems.
Have Liberty 300 and Liberty 90. Both function well and are well built. Use 90 in the car.
I have had my Rapid safe for a couple years now, I really like it.