nike are abusive to women so having 2 daughters I will never buy their shoes EVER . Alberto Salazar and Nike just wanted wins and world records they ONLY cared about this and did not care about the runners , particularly women . NEVER BUY NIKE SHOES or GEAR .
I hope everyone here realizes that for Mary's height, 114lbs was underweight and no runner should need to be underweight to train properly. I understand many runners are thin, but giving them diuretics to drop weight especially when she is still hormonally vulnerable is abuse. She was a freshman in college when she went to train with them I believe. You are still hormonally and psychologically developing at 18/19 years old. Being underweight can highly affect that development.
@Sam Yaza perhaps you should look back in that mirror to when you were 18 or 19 and say that again. How many GIRLS that age don't know or look up to the ADULTS that are training them or teaching them? If your parents did things like this to you at that age, what would you have done?
She went professional as HS runner. 114 lbs at 5'7" for an elite runner who professes wanted to be the GOAT is actually not underweight She should have never signed to become Professional. . Sifan Hassan · 5' 7" · 108lbs, Jenny Simpson - 5' 5" · 110 lbs, Allyson Felix 5' 6" · 121 pounds - Genzebe Dibaba · 5' 6" · 115 pounds
Brainjock That’s a big assumption. She is not acting like a victim. She is a victim. The abuse damaged her body. Fact, her performance dropped after she joined the Oregon Project. Nike’s only defense is saying it took her too long to speak out. They also refuse to have it investigated by an outside party. Nike sure looks guilty. Nike lost the business of our entire family. 👋
@Brainjock If you actually did some research you would realize that her coach pushed her and wanted her to start taking birth control pills and diuretics simply to loose weight. So yes they are one and the same. On top of that it's funny that your more willing to defend a guy who clearly has a flawed character since he is serving time for his actions than a girl was clearly taken advantage and has done no harm to anyone, other than to your ego and sensitivity.
How do you know the commenters are conservative? They may be leftists who support "social justice" while kneeling in front of the American flag. Conservatives are against NFL players kneeling.
@@KristianaCembrewomen literally ask for a piece of the men's pot to 'equalize' some false pay gap and proceed to perform like....well....girls. no one is interested
Thank you Mary for being so brave to speak up! I'm so sorry this happened to you and thank God you told your parents and they got you on the first flight out of there. Your story will help other athletes. Keep pushing! ❤
This is why coaches cheat and force their athletes to dope up. Because of his actions, he gets a 4 year ban from coaching, while the athletes are pretty much ruined for life.
What this lady means and she didn't mention it..... Women cutting weight at an early age can mess up there menstrual cycles, hormones and alot of other things even possible ruin having kids later. Guys do not have the same side effects.........
I'm confused. Are there genders or no genders this week?
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Is it Friday? I believe it's any gender day. Get with the times. I'd tell you more about it, but I got a women's competition to demolish in roughly 10min. I always wanted to join a weight lifting competition. I'm doing boxing next week. It's a great way to ease into the competition and keep winning 1st for confidence. EDIT: Saturday, it's female gender day. Phew, almost had to join the male's crew, thought it was No gender day.
@Brainjock I think she was being soft. I played football and went through way worse than that. It's the cost to be great. In my opinion, she wasnt built to be great. Just saying at least listen to what she said. My only issue is with people being opinionated instead of informed.
I applaud Mary Cain’s courage after having suffered through, imho, narcissistic abuse. I could be wrong of course but however you look at it, it was absolute abuse. I’m sure this experience has changed her forever but luckily she seems to have blossomed into a beautiful and well-adjusted young adult. To parents of young athletes, please keep a vigilant eye on your babies, listen to your gut feeling, to your child, never give total control over to a coach/trainer and please, when your daughter stops having a period, let the alarm bells go off.
it absolutely does matter, more muscle requires more oxygen in blood stream, that's why you often see heavier guys and muscular guys with less stamina, but with more power. The only thing i see wrong is the "she should be at this 114lb weight" because that's total BS.
@Foolish Demon again if you're in a fighting sport weight matters And if Lamar Jackson was still successful in his sport at a higher weight then it wouldn't matter. You need to read what I wrote.
This video doesn’t tell the whole story, and makes her look as if shes just mad nike told her to lose weight, when in reality they abused her. Search Mary Cain on TH-cam, the video from the New York Times explains the whole story of what happened.
What about equality men have to keep weight all the time. Football basketball wrestling ufc. Sure her argument might be valid but the same exact thing can be said for men’s sports. If u wanna be equal stop whining when standard are sets and upheld.
j steez equality isn’t about forcing people to talk about issues irrelevant to their circumstances for the sake of political correctness. She never said anything about it being exclusive to women. Starving oneself to destroy valuable muscle mass to achieve a specific weight without considering muscle fat ratios is objectively bad.
Are you stupid? We can't have the same standards for men and women, their bodies work differently. Women can't have less than 13% bodyfat because their body will stop function, while men can go as low as 5% or even less and still function fine. This is about how MALE coaches wanted a young girl to lose a lot of weight to "perform better", which doesn't work for girls unless they do have extra weight holding them back, but most runners don't. Loosing weight to perform better as a man might make sense, but it doesn't for women and clearly guys don't know that which is a disgrace.
literally every high school coach ive ever had pretty much told me and all of my teamates at one point in time to either gain weight or lose weight or get to a certain weight.
@Foolish Demon so you just have an issue with timing rather than the abuse. I wouldn't go as far as to dismiss the allegations as false when the coach wasn't innocent at all to begin with. You rather give a coach that dopes his players a pass, thats your preference.
@@grant6503 the weight isn’t the half of it. He also made her take birth control pills and diuretics to bring her weight down. Diuretics are NOT allowed in competitive sports.
This video just makes her look like she’s trying to get attention. Watch the Mary Cain vid from New York Times on TH-cam, it tells the whole story of how Nike ruined her career
Grant Don’t female basketball players do the same drills as males? But they aren’t as good at basketball, right? It made perfect sense you just couldn’t comprehend what you read.
Mackin Shizzaveli420 just cause they do the same drills doesn’t mean they work as long as men. whenever i go to a basketball court or a gym with one i never see a woman there it’s only men
Grant Somebody doesn’t know WNBA players actually play all year long because they don’t make as much. They also play in Europe. But you keep comparing your local Y to professionals.
I’m stuck in a situation. Should I continue supporting Nike, or support Mary Cain for her crisis, and act. In the beginning the year 1993 I spoke with Professional baseball Athlete Who’s name is not Micheal Jordan, but is Known as Micheal Jordan on the phone. Phones were giant bricks at the time. I told him to reach out to Nike, and to become a professional Basketball athlete because people were demaining him on National Television. He helped change Nike shoes from only a piece of fabric, and what’s known as the sole of the shoe. They were very terrible shoes. I told him high school students had science class, and could be hurt because it was only fabric. He decided to become a basketball athlete, and shoes, basketball, and Micheal’s life changed forever. I was able to call him because of Micheal Fossum, or my cousin the Purple Heart of Valor recipient. I do not support mistreatment of Woman, and do believe maternity leave should exist. Black lives matter happened, and I just want everyone to consider what I’am typing here. Change is possible in all of us. Do what you believe is right regardless of the circumstances.
the constants here are money and power. Any "love" and support is contingent on Nike what wants from the athlete. Morals, ethics? look elsewhere. Nike is a sporting goods company. Nothing more.
@Myles Bankhead There was a lot of emotional abuse and mental abuse which led to her going from a promising athlete to someone now who doesn’t compete at a high level
Why have so many other women succeeded in that program? Is Mary the first and only female that was abused in this way? Have other women in the program come out against the Oregon Project for this emotional and physical abuse? Could it be that Cain was simply not as talented/successful as others and is looking for someone or something to blame? No accusations here, just questions.
Watch the Mary Cain video from the New York Times, it tells the whole story of how Nike ruined her career. This video just makes her look like she just wants attention.
How come we never hear from Alberto's other female runners? Shannon Rowbury (American Record Holder) Sifan Hassan (World Records Holder) Jordan Hasay (Another Prodigy who ran well under Alberto) Mary Slaney (One of pioneers of middle distance running)
There is without a doubt an optimal weight for every athlete in almost every sport. That weight can and will change depending on your height weight and body composition. Hypothetically your could have two female sprinters both of whom are 5 foot 10 inches and weigh 140 lbs. One of them could benefit from gaining 6 lbs of lean mass while the other benefits from dropping down to 128. Everyone had a unique frame that can experimented with to find there optimal body composition for their specific sport. She is right. There is not much science because everyone is very unique. . a prime example is mma weight classes. Some athletes perform better leaner while some perform better with more muscle mass or a little higher body fat. It's all about strength and cardio payouts or trade offs. Her argument is ridiculous
@Foolish Demon my argument is simple in my opinion and that is the quality of the composition dictates the quality of training. If a highschool coach took a fourteen years old and publicly told her she needs to lose weight in front of her peers I would have a problem with it. But this girls an Olympic hopeful in her twenty's. I'm sorry but if is what it is. And another point is this. If your times were better weighing 123 then your coach would want you to weigh 123. The fact that your world renowned running coach wanted you to weigh 114 or 116 means that from a performing standpoint you were at your fastest weighing around 115. And your body broke down and it's unfortunate but as I said before. Your not a child trying to win a regional track meet. You were literally hand picked to join a team full of Olympic hopefuls.
@Foolish Demon Beyond the matter(which is considerable) of testosterone, I think any coach(man or woman) who has ever trained both men and women will tell you that mentally there's a difference in the ability to focus, and that means during drills they have to be on the female athletes case all the time to avoid them getting distracted and slacking off, it sounds funny but it's true, you have to push women more than men, and it's part of the reason why men prefer to train male athletes, it's less stress supervising their training because they are more self-motivated.
Okay some people in these comments are being so sexist. I hate seeing these things and as a female “athlete” I agree that we have different bodies physically, but that does not mean that all girls don’t have the mental strength to train like a guys, and this girl can definitely handle it. I don’t care about the science but this girl was more than mistreated and people are getting away with it so she spoke out, why can’t you guys understand that.🙄😂
The goal weight that the coach wanted to reach was 114 pounds or 52 kilos. And Mary is 170 centimeters long. The coach must have been insane. Didnt he knew that muscles weights more than fat? Did he want her to end up like a skeleton? The story of this girl is really sad. The Alberto guy destroyd her career.
So what was the issue of not going to a different team..a different coach? Professional runners (and other athletes in other sports) change out whenever they feel that the current program is not conducive to better performance or future goals....why did she have to stay put?
Because she was the top runner… and she wanted to be the best… she was with this dude since 2013… had no issues until he got hit with that doping ban… now she using the side of sports regular people don’t see against Nike… and the fact that they was in bed with the coach… she knows the rigorous training required… she now years later looking for a pay out… bruh all them girls running next to her ain’t no bigger… she just using the fact that the trainer got caught up doping… so she going use the he will go to any tactics to get his runners to win…
People have been pampered so much that they don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions and actions even when offered a chance of a lifetime.
And they. Say islam treats its woman unfairly the problem is is we have to respect all peoples privacy and acknowledge their rights spiritually physically and mentally and woman are still fighting for equal rights l im keep blacks and Latinos
Wow, very late response. I saw another video - her parents didn't know of the abuse. When they found out they took her out the program the same day. Flew her home that night.
Does she know that in Europe, Football Clubs weigh their athletes weekly or daily and if they are a few hundred grams above their ideal weight(stipulated by.... the coaching staff) they get fined and in some cases they are sent home or let go from their contracts? And yes, all of us have an ideal "competitive weight", I'm reasonably fine at 181 pounds for everyday stuff, but athletically I know I'm better between 154 and 159 pounds, it's what works best for my body. I could be mistaken and she might have been a victim of some "evil" coach, but she comes across as a crybaby who couldn't handle the pressure that athletes are under at top level when being led by top notch coaches. And LOTS of women lose their period in sports, and some choose to accept it during their athletic careers and eventually go back to normal once they are done with sports, while others just can't deal with it psychologically. I think she's just mentally weak and doesn't realize she's the "oddity" because she wont' accept the stress while other girls will. In Europe this would hardly be a story.
WHY is the world so misinformed? It's extremely important for women to have their periods. Not having period = extremely unhealthy. It means your body isn't producing the necessary hormones for fertility AND growth, which also means your bones cannot heal as well and your bone density will decrease. Women without periods in the long-term are subjecting themselves to early-onset osteoporosis. Just because European football clubs threaten their athletes like that doesn't make it OK. This is toxic enforcement & a terrible focus (performance should be the focus. Weight is a very unreliable metric). This kind of thinking is what leads to eating disorders.
I don't doubt Mary was under pressure to keep her weight down but she joined an elite proffesional running group. Her father is a physician who was very involved in Mary's running. I believe she is disgruntled that her career didnt work out the way she anticipated. She jumped on the bandwagon when Salazar was disciplined. She was off the radar and now she is trying to be significant again. She keeps saying Nike is trying to discredit her. No, she is trying to discredit them, they are simply defending themselves which they have every right to. For goodness sake, she asked Alberto if she could train with him in April. I am surprised no one brings all these descrepencies up.
After all her complaints she still tried to go back,sounds like a case of sour grapes. Not all child prodigies necessarily turn out to be great in their adult life, it'll all about hard work you put in,i was pretty small when i was 14-15 but put on lots of muscle and body mass in my later teens as i started working out with weights and stuff and am now much bigger than my school mates.
@tray imagine having to wake up and police comments on social media and have no voice in real life or strength to defend yourself. I mean, think about your life and consider if it's worth living.
she claims that she's the fastest girl in America before joining Nike camp, insinuating that Nike RUINED her talent. Look how many high school football and basketball top recruits fail at college level and simply disappear. Yes it happens. Deal with it. Losing respect for life in order to garner petty media attention for a brief news cycle is a dumb move.
@amanthedestroyer The same could be said about top high school football players. They look like world beaters until they join division 1 college football program and hit the ceiling hard. Don't see any CFB player complaining their college coaches ruin their future though, do you?
@@brett19890 - Point taken. But I was referring to all of the abuse talk. Have never known a GOOD coach who could not be accused of being abusive, in some way.
@@blackurustrikes2328 but Alberto would not fit that category, which is my point. The fact that he would dope up his players and ruin their careers makes her accusation more than nothing. Definitely worth looking into.
@@theguy8242 Nike didn't provide project oregon with a certified nutrionist. They can pretty much give these kids the wrong info and get away with it. Seems like you are ok with that, then you are not even a beta male, more like a dumb beast I hunt. Those types of beast I put down with my AR-15.
If you don’t want to train the way they want you to then you lose your scholarship! That’s the way it should go you shouldn’t be able to go and whine about it!
Tebon Yes, because he would shame her in front of her teammates for not reaching the set weight of 114 pounds. She would feel like she has already lost the race before it began, because she hadn’t met a goal weight, she said it herself. He made her feel unhappy with her body, to the point where she had suicidal thoughts and cut herself.
Mary Cain vs known doping offender Alberto Salazar & Nike?
I think I'll side with MC.
@lucaboden FACTS
Me too
nike are abusive to women so having 2 daughters I will never buy their shoes EVER . Alberto Salazar and Nike just wanted wins and world records they ONLY cared about this and did not care about the runners , particularly women . NEVER BUY NIKE SHOES or GEAR .
Women can’t train the same as men. Body’s are very different.
I just think they're lazy and entitled
That's the point of her whole story? Do you even know it?
@@JadeJackal4 maybe I don't enlighten me
@@Megalodon987 look it up
Girls have more estrogen which helps with recovery. Girls train more often but with less intensity than men
Love Mary Cain. A great role-model for young girls.
Brainjock you’re so foolishly wrong
Brainjock she is a loser because she is speaking up??
I’ve been done with Nike over the last year. Sweat shops, abuse, and money over rights.
Hope you feel the same about things that cater to your leisure. News Flash: Nike ain't the only company doing it.
Their spikes and running shoes suck
She thinks her relationship with Nike is abusive, think about all those child slaves that they employ in China for ten cents a hour.
Zach C but she didn’t get an apology. He never said sorry! HOW DARE YOU
So incredibly spoiled
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You think China doesn't know that they have these kids employed? That's a China issue, nothing to do with her
Don Lumiere
You must be a lebron fan.
1st off imma still rock Nike
We chinese support your decision to wear our product. Long live the CCP!
Gangsta‼️
@Reese B
You support slavery
why so many dislikes? I really like what she is saying and I am 100% on her side in this nike sweat shop mentality - sorry values dispute
I hope everyone here realizes that for Mary's height, 114lbs was underweight and no runner should need to be underweight to train properly. I understand many runners are thin, but giving them diuretics to drop weight especially when she is still hormonally vulnerable is abuse. She was a freshman in college when she went to train with them I believe. You are still hormonally and psychologically developing at 18/19 years old. Being underweight can highly affect that development.
@Sam Yaza perhaps you should look back in that mirror to when you were 18 or 19 and say that again. How many GIRLS that age don't know or look up to the ADULTS that are training them or teaching them? If your parents did things like this to you at that age, what would you have done?
She went professional as HS runner. 114 lbs at 5'7" for an elite runner who professes wanted to be the GOAT is actually not underweight She should have never signed to become Professional. . Sifan Hassan · 5' 7" · 108lbs, Jenny Simpson - 5' 5" · 110 lbs, Allyson Felix 5' 6" · 121 pounds - Genzebe Dibaba · 5' 6" · 115 pounds
Her coach is serving a 4 year doping ban... She's speaking facts
@Brainjock She was the fastest girl in america.
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Brainjock That’s a big assumption. She is not acting like a victim. She is a victim. The abuse damaged her body. Fact, her performance dropped after she joined the Oregon Project. Nike’s only defense is saying it took her too long to speak out. They also refuse to have it investigated by an outside party. Nike sure looks guilty. Nike lost the business of our entire family. 👋
@Brainjock If you actually did some research you would realize that her coach pushed her and wanted her to start taking birth control pills and diuretics simply to loose weight. So yes they are one and the same. On top of that it's funny that your more willing to defend a guy who clearly has a flawed character since he is serving time for his actions than a girl was clearly taken advantage and has done no harm to anyone, other than to your ego and sensitivity.
Conservatives: boycott nike for supporting Kaepernick
Also conservatives: I'm going to keep wearing nike because of this girl
😂
How do you know the commenters are conservative?
They may be leftists who support "social justice" while kneeling in front of the American flag. Conservatives are against NFL players kneeling.
I’m a conservative and I wear nike cause I like Nike. So you should stop assuming you sound stupid.
Same thing can be said about liberals lol buy Nike to support Colin Kaepernick also liberals Nike is toxic masculinity and opressive towards women.
@@dakotabrewer1091 okay boomer
Boys are different from girls... sorry that's how it goes kid
The trainers didn't know that, that's the problem.
@@KristianaCembre not my opinion... straight facts
@@KristianaCembre name calling?... stay classy kid
@@KristianaCembre people who feel dumb about themselves act like you.... marriage problems..?..
@@KristianaCembrewomen literally ask for a piece of the men's pot to 'equalize' some false pay gap and proceed to perform like....well....girls. no one is interested
Tf is this video for
Better question is, Tf did you click this video for
@@done9337 - He clicked to find out what the video is for lol
Mary is a hero.
Men:Lets never act like victims
Women:If we don't act like victims were not women
She’s pointing out facts to make positive change and you’re complaining on a keyboard... bravo tough guy
@HEH HEH JEH i swear. RaPe CuLtUrE is so present🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Mary for being so brave to speak up! I'm so sorry this happened to you and thank God you told your parents and they got you on the first flight out of there. Your story will help other athletes. Keep pushing! ❤
Her:Weight doesnt matter
UFC:Am I a joke to u
You have to watch her movie, you're speak ignorance
@@JadeJackal4 maybe so but why did it take her so long to speak
@@dre0485 she just got the platform to speak via NYtimes
@@JadeJackal4 so those interviews and several ads she did werent a good enough platform
@@JadeJackal4 plus whats the point of her complaints ?
The sport passed her by. As her body began to change she lost her competitive advantage.
This is why coaches cheat and force their athletes to dope up. Because of his actions, he gets a 4 year ban from coaching, while the athletes are pretty much ruined for life.
Very insensitive statement
@Brainjock and ignorance is bliss for you it looks like
Can they just do us all a favor and cancel all women sports
Guessing you dont have kids.
Agreed
Tequila Mockingbird lol you know he doesn’t 😂
Lol being sexist is so prevelant nowadays its crazy
This would be great
What this lady means and she didn't mention it..... Women cutting weight at an early age can mess up there menstrual cycles, hormones and alot of other things even possible ruin having kids later. Guys do not have the same side effects.........
I'm confused. Are there genders or no genders this week?
Is it Friday? I believe it's any gender day. Get with the times. I'd tell you more about it, but I got a women's competition to demolish in roughly 10min. I always wanted to join a weight lifting competition. I'm doing boxing next week. It's a great way to ease into the competition and keep winning 1st for confidence.
EDIT: Saturday, it's female gender day. Phew, almost had to join the male's crew, thought it was No gender day.
I feel like people should take the time to listen to her story. Before you tear her down listen to what she said.
Hahaha, you must be new to this planet...or at least 2019 Amerika.
@Brainjock I think she was being soft. I played football and went through way worse than that. It's the cost to be great. In my opinion, she wasnt built to be great. Just saying at least listen to what she said. My only issue is with people being opinionated instead of informed.
I applaud Mary Cain’s courage after having suffered through, imho, narcissistic abuse. I could be wrong of course but however you look at it, it was absolute abuse. I’m sure this experience has changed her forever but luckily she seems to have blossomed into a beautiful and well-adjusted young adult. To parents of young athletes, please keep a vigilant eye on your babies, listen to your gut feeling, to your child, never give total control over to a coach/trainer and please, when your daughter stops having a period, let the alarm bells go off.
Looks related to josh Rosen
🙊😁
Lol she do. 😂😱
I’d still smash 😂
Disney is about to be pissed.
Who cares about weight unless you're in a fighting sport. If you are able to be successful at your sport and athletic weight doesn't matter.
it absolutely does matter, more muscle requires more oxygen in blood stream, that's why you often see heavier guys and muscular guys with less stamina, but with more power. The only thing i see wrong is the "she should be at this 114lb weight" because that's total BS.
@Foolish Demon again if you're in a fighting sport weight matters
And if Lamar Jackson was still successful in his sport at a higher weight then it wouldn't matter. You need to read what I wrote.
I’m lost.., it must be something I’m missing. It sounds like she said a whole bunch of nothing.
O...now I get it
GradexAxGuy the trainer made them take water pills to lose the weight. A runner taking water pills 🤬
This video doesn’t tell the whole story, and makes her look as if shes just mad nike told her to lose weight, when in reality they abused her. Search Mary Cain on TH-cam, the video from the New York Times explains the whole story of what happened.
Does she want to go against trans women
Very interesting that there is an under armour ad while they bash Nike.
*Stand Tall Mary Cain ! You have so much admiration & support in your great Movement... your a True Heroine & Brave Patriot. Down with Nike 👎
Newsflash being the best in the world is not an easy path to take
This why I crossed over to puma fam
Deven Dean should go with ASICS, or Brooks
What about equality men have to keep weight all the time. Football basketball wrestling ufc. Sure her argument might be valid but the same exact thing can be said for men’s sports. If u wanna be equal stop whining when standard are sets and upheld.
j steez equality isn’t about forcing people to talk about issues irrelevant to their circumstances for the sake of political correctness. She never said anything about it being exclusive to women. Starving oneself to destroy valuable muscle mass to achieve a specific weight without considering muscle fat ratios is objectively bad.
Are you stupid? We can't have the same standards for men and women, their bodies work differently. Women can't have less than 13% bodyfat because their body will stop function, while men can go as low as 5% or even less and still function fine. This is about how MALE coaches wanted a young girl to lose a lot of weight to "perform better", which doesn't work for girls unless they do have extra weight holding them back, but most runners don't. Loosing weight to perform better as a man might make sense, but it doesn't for women and clearly guys don't know that which is a disgrace.
I don't think anyone cares.
Congrats Mary on your good showing in the recent USATF XC Championship. Great step in the right direction.
idk about y’all but i would love Mary to be my coach
literally every high school coach ive ever had pretty much told me and all of my teamates at one point in time to either gain weight or lose weight or get to a certain weight.
Did your coach also tell you to dope up for the games? Because Alberto Salazar did and he gets caught and banned for 4 years which seems weak.
@Foolish Demon so you just have an issue with timing rather than the abuse. I wouldn't go as far as to dismiss the allegations as false when the coach wasn't innocent at all to begin with. You rather give a coach that dopes his players a pass, thats your preference.
Doomsday Clock wasn’t she just basically saying that her coach was abusing her by telling her to lose weight
@@grant6503 the weight isn’t the half of it. He also made her take birth control pills and diuretics to bring her weight down. Diuretics are NOT allowed in competitive sports.
@@brett19890lol this shit happens daily in boys sports.
Wish there was a laughing button instead of like/dislike , this chick so salt about her own failure😂
This video just makes her look like she’s trying to get attention. Watch the Mary Cain vid from New York Times on TH-cam, it tells the whole story of how Nike ruined her career
She was the fastest girl in america You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Key word, WAS, you get replaced at some point
Women need to stay home and have kids. To many complaints.
Talks about an abusive relationship*
"WE'RE SO GLAD YOURE WATCHING ESPN"
women can't train like men can bodies are different
LeeTravius Mckay Thanks, Mr. expert. Tell us more lol
0:57 well it doesn’t show in the WNBA
They can train as hard they just aren’t as good so the training doesn’t show
Mackin Shizzaveli420 that makes no sense.
Grant Don’t female basketball players do the same drills as males? But they aren’t as good at basketball, right? It made perfect sense you just couldn’t comprehend what you read.
Mackin Shizzaveli420 just cause they do the same drills doesn’t mean they work as long as men. whenever i go to a basketball court or a gym with one i never see a woman there it’s only men
Grant Somebody doesn’t know WNBA players actually play all year long because they don’t make as much. They also play in Europe. But you keep comparing your local Y to professionals.
Wow she hating on men
She was a beast watch her highlights
I’m stuck in a situation. Should I continue supporting Nike, or support Mary Cain for her crisis, and act. In the beginning the year 1993 I spoke with Professional baseball Athlete Who’s name is not Micheal Jordan, but is Known as Micheal Jordan on the phone. Phones were giant bricks at the time. I told him to reach out to Nike, and to become a professional Basketball athlete because people were demaining him on National Television. He helped change Nike shoes from only a piece of fabric, and what’s known as the sole of the shoe. They were very terrible shoes. I told him high school students had science class, and could be hurt because it was only fabric. He decided to become a basketball athlete, and shoes, basketball, and Micheal’s life changed forever. I was able to call him because of Micheal Fossum, or my cousin the Purple Heart of Valor recipient. I do not support mistreatment of Woman, and do believe maternity leave should exist. Black lives matter happened, and I just want everyone to consider what I’am typing here. Change is possible in all of us. Do what you believe is right regardless of the circumstances.
the constants here are money and power. Any "love" and support is contingent on Nike what wants from the athlete. Morals, ethics? look elsewhere. Nike is a sporting goods company. Nothing more.
Very well spoken young lady
This y wonens sports is boring...quit whining and play
another non story about women wanting preferential treatment.....Weight restrictions, weight classes, all across mens sports
Is it ok to say that she’s a handsome looking woman?
😂 ... we’re living in very confusing times.
A woman expressing an opinion related to sports, I MUST DISLIKE THIS VIDEO!
Sooo, she’s upset that her coach wanted her to maintain a certain weight for competition?
Myles Bankhead *in no offensive tone* there is a lot more to the story, you should watch her full side of the story.
I’m genuinely confused as to what the abuse was about watching this segment. I’ll look into it
From the story so far, that coach, Alberto Salazar, has been banned for 4 years for doping allegations.
@Foolish Demon learn to read you idiot. Where did I say he was banned after the story.
@Myles Bankhead There was a lot of emotional abuse and mental abuse which led to her going from a promising athlete to someone now who doesn’t compete at a high level
Why have so many other women succeeded in that program? Is Mary the first and only female that was abused in this way? Have other women in the program come out against the Oregon Project for this emotional and physical abuse? Could it be that Cain was simply not as talented/successful as others and is looking for someone or something to blame? No accusations here, just questions.
I thought he was lowkey touching them or something like that but if it was just about the weight then she is just trying to get clout off this.
Watch the Mary Cain video from the New York Times, it tells the whole story of how Nike ruined her career. This video just makes her look like she just wants attention.
@@ericc3803 That other video is just better edited but I don't believe her one bit.
How come we never hear from Alberto's other female runners? Shannon Rowbury (American Record Holder) Sifan Hassan (World Records Holder) Jordan Hasay (Another Prodigy who ran well under Alberto) Mary Slaney (One of pioneers of middle distance running)
If you don’t like it don’t do it!
There is without a doubt an optimal weight for every athlete in almost every sport. That weight can and will change depending on your height weight and body composition. Hypothetically your could have two female sprinters both of whom are 5 foot 10 inches and weigh 140 lbs. One of them could benefit from gaining 6 lbs of lean mass while the other benefits from dropping down to 128. Everyone had a unique frame that can experimented with to find there optimal body composition for their specific sport. She is right. There is not much science because everyone is very unique. . a prime example is mma weight classes. Some athletes perform better leaner while some perform better with more muscle mass or a little higher body fat. It's all about strength and cardio payouts or trade offs. Her argument is ridiculous
@Foolish Demon my argument is simple in my opinion and that is the quality of the composition dictates the quality of training. If a highschool coach took a fourteen years old and publicly told her she needs to lose weight in front of her peers I would have a problem with it. But this girls an Olympic hopeful in her twenty's. I'm sorry but if is what it is. And another point is this. If your times were better weighing 123 then your coach would want you to weigh 123. The fact that your world renowned running coach wanted you to weigh 114 or 116 means that from a performing standpoint you were at your fastest weighing around 115. And your body broke down and it's unfortunate but as I said before. Your not a child trying to win a regional track meet. You were literally hand picked to join a team full of Olympic hopefuls.
@Foolish Demon Beyond the matter(which is considerable) of testosterone, I think any coach(man or woman) who has ever trained both men and women will tell you that mentally there's a difference in the ability to focus, and that means during drills they have to be on the female athletes case all the time to avoid them getting distracted and slacking off, it sounds funny but it's true, you have to push women more than men, and it's part of the reason why men prefer to train male athletes, it's less stress supervising their training because they are more self-motivated.
She is awesome. Nike is trash
ima still rock Nike
Okay some people in these comments are being so sexist. I hate seeing these things and as a female “athlete” I agree that we have different bodies physically, but that does not mean that all girls don’t have the mental strength to train like a guys, and this girl can definitely handle it. I don’t care about the science but this girl was more than mistreated and people are getting away with it so she spoke out, why can’t you guys understand that.🙄😂
Nike needs to address this issue like profesionals and accept how wrong her team was
So how much thinner does Nike want her to be?
The goal weight that the coach wanted to reach was 114 pounds or 52 kilos. And Mary is 170 centimeters long. The coach must have been insane. Didnt he knew that muscles weights more than fat?
Did he want her to end up like a skeleton?
The story of this girl is really sad. The Alberto guy destroyd her career.
So what was the issue of not going to a different team..a different coach? Professional runners (and other athletes in other sports) change out whenever they feel that the current program is not conducive to better performance or future goals....why did she have to stay put?
Because she was the top runner… and she wanted to be the best… she was with this dude since 2013… had no issues until he got hit with that doping ban… now she using the side of sports regular people don’t see against Nike… and the fact that they was in bed with the coach… she knows the rigorous training required… she now years later looking for a pay out… bruh all them girls running next to her ain’t no bigger… she just using the fact that the trainer got caught up doping… so she going use the he will go to any tactics to get his runners to win…
Yes Mary, speak out about this. its intolerable!!!
People have been pampered so much that they don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions and actions even when offered a chance of a lifetime.
Do you have any idea if what she's talking about? Are you an athlete? Her performance got worse.
Her name is 2 drugs put together
Dont buy Nike.....period.
Mary Cain has been though unnecessary pain. She is both physically & mentally 💪 !
What’s going on? She’s upset she’s being pushed?
I've been wearing Nike since I was a child I'm 28
She must be related to Goff, you cant tell me otherwise
She’s mad she couldn’t beat the clock.Train Harder
She was the fastest girl in america
You don't know what're you talking about
@@babyjesus9011 until 2015 BEFORE she joined Nike. Honestly, I think her body caught up to her before she joined Nike but can't prove that
And they. Say islam treats its woman unfairly the problem is is we have to respect all peoples privacy and acknowledge their rights spiritually physically and mentally and woman are still fighting for equal rights l im keep blacks and Latinos
where were the parents? I thought it didn't matter how much you weigh as long as you are fast. Parents were where?
Wow, very late response. I saw another video - her parents didn't know of the abuse. When they found out they took her out the program the same day. Flew her home that night.
So the coach trained her and coached her. Whats the problem?
Its all about dollars and cents. If it makes dollars, it makes sense
No y'all just insucure about your weight,...
Shame on you,lucky i dont sue you for discrimiation, POOR Role model
Does she know that in Europe, Football Clubs weigh their athletes weekly or daily and if they are a few hundred grams above their ideal weight(stipulated by.... the coaching staff) they get fined and in some cases they are sent home or let go from their contracts? And yes, all of us have an ideal "competitive weight", I'm reasonably fine at 181 pounds for everyday stuff, but athletically I know I'm better between 154 and 159 pounds, it's what works best for my body. I could be mistaken and she might have been a victim of some "evil" coach, but she comes across as a crybaby who couldn't handle the pressure that athletes are under at top level when being led by top notch coaches. And LOTS of women lose their period in sports, and some choose to accept it during their athletic careers and eventually go back to normal once they are done with sports, while others just can't deal with it psychologically. I think she's just mentally weak and doesn't realize she's the "oddity" because she wont' accept the stress while other girls will. In Europe this would hardly be a story.
André Carreira de Figueiredo but loosing your period is very unhealthy and will lead to osteoporosis if you’ve lost it for a while
WHY is the world so misinformed? It's extremely important for women to have their periods. Not having period = extremely unhealthy. It means your body isn't producing the necessary hormones for fertility AND growth, which also means your bones cannot heal as well and your bone density will decrease. Women without periods in the long-term are subjecting themselves to early-onset osteoporosis. Just because European football clubs threaten their athletes like that doesn't make it OK. This is toxic enforcement & a terrible focus (performance should be the focus. Weight is a very unreliable metric). This kind of thinking is what leads to eating disorders.
What a champion!!
Aaawww lets give the overgrown baby her pat on the back.
the hell's wrong with you?
Umm she kinda changed this from what video i seen before....
I'm sure Michael Jordan seen alot of corruption from Nike but buys another yacht instead of changing things for the better.
FFS 🤦♂️
I don't doubt Mary was under pressure to keep her weight down but she joined an elite proffesional running group. Her father is a physician who was very involved in Mary's running. I believe she is disgruntled that her career didnt work out the way she anticipated. She jumped on the bandwagon when Salazar was disciplined. She was off the radar and now she is trying to be significant again. She keeps saying Nike is trying to discredit her. No, she is trying to discredit them, they are simply defending themselves which they have every right to. For goodness sake, she asked Alberto if she could train with him in April. I am surprised no one brings all these descrepencies up.
Sacrifice everything even if it means getting paid slave wages
Back in the primitive days, women were the hunters and men sat around nursing babies all day and cooking.
After all her complaints she still tried to go back,sounds like a case of sour grapes. Not all child prodigies necessarily turn out to be great in their adult life, it'll all about hard work you put in,i was pretty small when i was 14-15 but put on lots of muscle and body mass in my later teens as i started working out with weights and stuff and am now much bigger than my school mates.
They supported kapernicker so....
@tray imagine having to wake up and police comments on social media and have no voice in real life or strength to defend yourself. I mean, think about your life and consider if it's worth living.
@tray nah you're done
@tray denial, stage of grief. You cant be in denial, that would mean you're normal. What you are my friend, is delusional.
she claims that she's the fastest girl in America before joining Nike camp, insinuating that Nike RUINED her talent. Look how many high school football and basketball top recruits fail at college level and simply disappear. Yes it happens. Deal with it. Losing respect for life in order to garner petty media attention for a brief news cycle is a dumb move.
@amanthedestroyer The same could be said about top high school football players. They look like world beaters until they join division 1 college football program and hit the ceiling hard. Don't see any CFB player complaining their college coaches ruin their future though, do you?
Did he break the law or a contract? If so, go to court.
In not, stop assassinating his character.
Alberto sounds like every other sports coach. This is much ado about nothing.
I doubt every other coach will get caught for doping allegations and hit with a 4 year ban.
@@brett19890 - Point taken. But I was referring to all of the abuse talk. Have never known a GOOD coach who could not be accused of being abusive, in some way.
@@blackurustrikes2328 but Alberto would not fit that category, which is my point. The fact that he would dope up his players and ruin their careers makes her accusation more than nothing. Definitely worth looking into.
@@brett19890 we get it your beta. She didn't say she was forced to dope she said he was mean.
@@theguy8242 Nike didn't provide project oregon with a certified nutrionist. They can pretty much give these kids the wrong info and get away with it. Seems like you are ok with that, then you are not even a beta male, more like a dumb beast I hunt. Those types of beast I put down with my AR-15.
If you don’t want to train the way they want you to then you lose your scholarship! That’s the way it should go you shouldn’t be able to go and whine about it!
So she was weak? Definitely strikes me as a weak individual.
spoken like somebody who's never been through any type of abuse
I don't wanna hear this bullshit.
I don’t get it. She’s upset cause her coach gave her a goal weight?
Tebon Yes, because he would shame her in front of her teammates for not reaching the set weight of 114 pounds. She would feel like she has already lost the race before it began, because she hadn’t met a goal weight, she said it herself. He made her feel unhappy with her body, to the point where she had suicidal thoughts and cut herself.
Something tells me her teammates all reached the goal
A woman’s body is different from a man’s and she was one of the few girls in that program and she got to the point where her body was just not working
Be better and get first
I like her thick
Bye Nike!
Nike exposed?
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